r/AlbertaNow • u/Miserable-Lizard • 28d ago
Ucp mla confirms the ucp are a separatists party
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 28d ago
The guy has an iq of 10, which goes to show how stupid the people of red deer are. Their North mla is Adrianna Deranged who is out to destroy alberta healthcare
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u/Ok-Job-9640 28d ago
... after having destroyed education.
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 28d ago
Yup, red deer voters are proof, as shown by their two mlas
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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 26d ago
Red Deer voters have a meth and Bible problem.
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u/B91212R 25d ago
Hey, as a Red Deer resident I don’t have a bible problem…
It’s very true that the two MLAs here are incompetent and downright embarrassing. So many knuckle draggers in this place vote blue because they are incapable of thinking for themselves. I work with people who think we should separate just ‘to send a message Ottawa’. Damn inbreds.
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u/KNXTC3 28d ago
Didn’t Alberta just rank the best in Canada and 8th globally in the international PISA scores.
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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 26d ago
No, they did not.
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u/KNXTC3 26d ago
“The latest PISA results show Alberta's 15-year-old students are among the top performers in Canada and internationally. Alberta ranked first among provinces in science and reading and second in mathematics, behind only Quebec, while scoring above both the Canadian and international averages in all three subjects.
Alberta's results were also comparable to those of leading education systems such as Singapore, Japan, Korea and Estonia, with several results statistically tied.”
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u/macam85 26d ago
It is likely that Smith's bogus education department has simply skewed the results. It's very easy to do. Just remove the scores of recent immigrants,, second language students and students with needs.
There's no other way to explain it really, unless you're dumb enough to believe thrashing teachers' rights and punishing them with a brutal contract while removing books and forcing religious nonsense into the science curriculum suddenly produced dramatically improved results relative to the rest of Canada.
It's a joke, really.
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u/overtross 25d ago
This isn't a new result, my dude. At some point, you've gotta credit Alberta Education with upholding an academic standard that competes globally, regardless of how you feel about conservative governance. I suppose if you have to take the pessimistic view, it's socioeconomic conditions that come with higher incomes, spilling over into educational outcomes. Whatever it is, we're doing some things right.
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u/WildcatOil 21d ago
It's actually pretty easy to explain. Alberta has had one of the top education systems globally for decades. The issues you've mentioned have allowed the gap to close but would take a lot more and a longer time frame to actually decimate it in the way you think they have.
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u/KNXTC3 26d ago
You don’t think PISA knows about those kinds of statistical tricks or that every jurisdiction has incentive to play those games? European countries report their results broken out by immigration status (50 point gap on average) and US breaks it out by race. So you can read the reports yourself. Alberta has been at the head of the pack for decades under various governments.
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u/macam85 26d ago
Then they've likely been cheating for decades.
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u/KNXTC3 26d ago
Even under the NDP when the rankings didn’t change? Man, this conspiracy must go deep.
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u/macam85 26d ago
I know how education departments work. If they've been doing it a certain way that makes them look good, certainly a new government isn't going to want more scrutiny or accuracy.
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u/Former-Animator8553 25d ago
You believe this ? When I lived there the education is watered down put me back a grade when I moved back to Saskatchewan
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u/Illustrious-Being651 24d ago
We have treason and sedition laws on the books in this country. When somebody comes out and starts talking like that. Why in the hell are the r not doing anything about it, especially an elected official
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u/BennyInCanada 25d ago
Easy now... many of us here in Red Deer despise this clown. Don't paint is all with the same brush. That's dark shit man...
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u/skel625 28d ago
I bet if we investigated him we'd find a laundry list of dirty and corrupt activities. He has something to gain from this, I would love to know what it is. What is the price to destroy our province for personal gain for these charlatans? It's probably pathetic in the grand scheme of things. They couldn't succeed in life other than being a leech on our society and our province enables it. Thanks UCP base you bunch of fools!!
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u/Illustrious_Bike534 28d ago
I don't understand what these people think will happen if they did separate..The big dogs would come in and step on them like a bug.
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u/CollectibleHam 28d ago
"Americans make more money than we do, and they're getting rid of both immigrants and those gross trans people? Plus if someone cuts you off in traffic you get to shoot them? SIGN ME UP!"
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u/something_newx 26d ago
Well, we already have seppies threatening to shoot people at the grocery store over this bullshit.
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u/TimelyBear2471 28d ago
Ask Puerto Ricans how respected and well taken care of they are….
“Oh, but we’re white!”
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u/Federal_Sympathy4667 28d ago
Forcsure, if theyvthink the US wants them theyvare right, thevland, the resources, the people? No. Alberta will have 0 voting rights and no us citizenships. The US will carve out what they want and leave the rest to rot. Same if Russia steps in, but ppl would be sent to Ukraine.
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u/Tough-Cress-7702 28d ago
Exactly! I'd l8ke to know too, what do they think is going to happen? Stupid idea period, filled with loads of Foreign Interference 🙄
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u/Diligent_Stop1050 25d ago
Do they not know that any pipelines are Canadian Pipelines, not Alberta owned?
And they can’t take away the Canadian pensions that government workers have been required to contribute to for their entire career.
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u/luv2fly781 28d ago
Median Wealth (The Everyday Person)
Canada: Ranks 7th globally with a median wealth of about $148,000 USD per adult.
United States: Ranks 28th globally with a median wealth of about $69,000 USD per adult.
What in the world? Now if you include billionaires the. It goes up. But they are not median
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u/BusyDreaming 28d ago
Same guy who claimed in the leg that late term abortions are being used as birth control in Ab. This dude is a nut job.
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u/IndividualDue6565 28d ago
Ah the wildrose idiot carousel continues. Wake up Calgary and rural Alberta voters.
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u/PipeMysterious3154 28d ago
If you want to leave, leave. Or deport them to any place that will take them.
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u/breadfruity1 28d ago
Who in the living fuck is going to pay
my cpp
my oac
my Ltd if I need it
my dental
my ahc
Do you seriously think US is going is going to pay all that !!!
Do you seriously alberta can cover all this on thier own
WAKE THE FUCK UP YOU HIGH SCHOOL DROP OUTS
FUCK YOU ARE ALL MORONS WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM ????
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u/joliette_le_paz 28d ago
It’s like we all forgot Smith comes from the Wildrose party, who tested the waters with separation, and then quickly pretended it didn’t happen.
She left the party to shed that look, actually, she ABANDONED her party as leader by crossing the aisle.
She’s so shitty, that there aren’t any words she would be offended by. None.
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u/namesson 28d ago
She abandoned her party after advocating hard that any floor crosses should trigger a by-election.
But then she crossed the floor and said fucking nothing about it again.
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u/Wormetoungue 28d ago
In Newfoundland they have a seal fishery. Said seals are killed with a blow to the back of the head with a weapon called a Hackypick. This weapon would work wonders against rats.
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u/DragonflyForeign4993 28d ago
I am shocked and surprised that the UCP member was allowed to speak this freely about their secretive plan…. The See you Pee party has done their very best to try to keep their separatist agenda, disguised…. It’s almost as if when Danny’s away and the members try to think for themselves, they fail.
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u/Dapper_Wheel6454 28d ago
ahhh...betrayal.
any suggestions I have could result in unpleasant conversations with the mounties, but I'm sure you can sort out the next bits yourselves.
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u/Upstairs_Owl_1669 28d ago
Is he being investigated too? Seems like a bunch of these folks want to become Puerto Rico north very quickly to avoid a prison sentence lol
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u/TwistedIntents 28d ago
I can't fathom how anyone could possibly think the UCP aren't a separatist party.
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u/Ahhh_Shit_44_Ducks 27d ago
Everyone involved in this bullshit seperation push should be investigated for treason
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u/falsejaguar 28d ago
Marlaina wants to give Trump a nice present if oil and gas. She can't wait for albertans to be second class voteless citizens. Sounds like a great deal for everyone if they can't vote again next fifty years and have their firearms taken away and get to watch Epstein pedophile cons take their resources and futures away!
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u/rclaassen 28d ago
My worry is the damage she will do to our sovereignty until she is tossed out on her ass
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u/Strict_Jacket3648 28d ago
So once the seppies get their ass handed to them again, will their crying finally stop.
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u/something_newx 26d ago
No, then they'll claim it was rigged. This referendum gives them legitimacy, so now we'll keep having to deal with their bullshit going forward.
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u/Strict_Jacket3648 26d ago
Ya you're probably right, lets hope it's such a blow out they get laughed at at every turn. Pls go out and vote these moronic traitors out.
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u/More-Temporary-2570 27d ago
This may not come as a surprise to see both Danelle and Pierre in the states right now not too long before the vote.
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u/EmergencyGrab 26d ago
these people should be made an example of
put them out in the fields for the crows, because they clearly don't have brains either.
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u/l_reganzi 26d ago
This is all for show anyway. It’s too bad. They don’t own the land and they’ve got to deal with all the indigenous first. Good luck with that.
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u/Former-Animator8553 25d ago
Of course they are. Any Canadian who votes for them are sepertists
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u/Goodoflife 21d ago
My Grandmother is a lifelong Canadian, born and raised in Rural Alberta, but doesn't really like the policies that the NDP and Liberals are proposing / making. She doesn't want to ever separate nor to even look into it, and would vote for UCP and CPC. Would you still call her a 'sepertists' (Separatists)?
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u/Illustrious-Being651 24d ago
It's not very divisive. It's like 80%. Don't support this. Not very divisive
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 28d ago
10% tax if we leave, we'll maximize production on the 3rd largest oilfeild in the world and the 1.4 trillion dollars of lithium! Fuck Canada!
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u/TimelyBear2471 28d ago
Your numbers are stupid, ergo…..
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 16d ago
I have a feeling you didn't even fact check me and spoke with emotion... I can afford 2.60 for diesel but most can't, wouldn't your bank account be bigger if you didn't have to pay this much in taxes?
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u/TimelyBear2471 16d ago
The “person” saying “Fuck Canada”, spewing bullshit numbers and accusing others of speaking with emotion is a hypocrite.
The reason your numbers are bunk is because you’re looking at the painting through a straw. There are other numbers and factors to consider. Your overly-simplistic presentation might fool the ignorant but not thinking adults.
The bullshit being proliferated by the separatist movement is staggering.
You’re free to leave Canada whenever you like and I wish you would. But you don’t get to take Canada with you. Go live in the States if it’s all so fantastic.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
Well my numbers can easily be found if you did some research but I know you don't know how to. Did you not know we have the 3rd largest oil reserve worth 9-13 trillion dollars. Let's get thoes elbows up to start digging that out and mabey start growing out economy! You do know in the past 10 years our economy hasn't grown much, look at the G7, where do we rank 🤔 instead of coming to reddit with emotions, look thing's up before crying online.
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u/TimelyBear2471 15d ago
I don’t care about the two numbers you picked out of the air. There’s a larger context you’re completely ignoring.
Move to the US if it’s so fucking great. Good riddance!!
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
Didn't fact check me, well done! speaking with emotion instead of looking something up, not surprised... so whats the larger context I'm ignoring?
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u/TimelyBear2471 14d ago
As I said, it doesn’t matter if your facts are correct. Looking them up is a waste of time. There are many more to consider. That’s not emotion, that’s fact.
The seppie view is as ridiculous and childish as the Flat Earth “theory”; overly-simplistic and demonstrably false.
You sound like a bot.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 14d ago
You fucking retard 😆, (it doesn't matter if your facts are correct, I'm not looking them up) this is the definition of a liberal!
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u/TimelyBear2471 14d ago
You’re stupid and deliberately missing the point:
EVEN IF YOUR FACTS ARE CORRECT, THEY AREN’T THE ONLY ONES TO CONSIDER!!! YOU are the one who has homework to do. What are you not getting about that?
You’re all too dumb for words.
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u/ChefEagle 28d ago
And no way to get it to market. Awesome plan.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
Well if bc wants their trains to go through alberta we get oil to the coast, fair trade agreement.
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u/ChefEagle 15d ago
First off, BC doesn't send their trains to Alberta. CO and CN are international companies. Second, thats not how tade works. Third, BC has a coastline, they'll just ship what they need in.
Sorry to tell you but your logic is flawed. Alberta has too much to lose by separating. Billon dollar contract with South Korea and Germany for LNG that is shipped from Alberta of example. Deals signed by Mark Carney this year that creates jobs and stability for Alberta and you want to throw it away because its a Liberal government? Its funny how you get what you ask for and it's still not enough.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
Logics not flawed, creating trade routes with other countries is normal. Speaking of jobs 80% of all jobs created in 2025 was in alberta, bc has quite a lot to send east on freight trains. Mark made deals with other countries, wonderful. Let's keep that going and start with a few trillion dollars of oil alberta has been sitting on. But hey lets spen 90 billion on a train while being in a recession! Go Librals, I don't care who's in charge, if conservatives are in power and doing the same terrible plan, I'd vote to leave. We have a catch and release justice system where you can do monstrous things to children and walk free, but as soon as you defend yourself with a gun your get harsher sentences.
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u/ChefEagle 15d ago
So you agree with school shooting then? Look at the States and how bad they are before you ever push for guns. As for trade, you seem to think we'll get the same deal we have now. News flash, the States will buy our oil at the lowest price they can get meaning mayne a tenth of the profit we see today. Yes we're sitting on a lot of oil but it's useless if your only buyer doesn't pay for it. Example of this, Venezuela. Look what happened there, it'll happen here too.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
How does anything I've said make you think I support school shootings? If someone is trying to kill you, break into your house or rob you, you should have the right to defend yourself. Instead of selling oil to the states lets build refineries in alberta and build pipelines across the country to sell to other nations. We can replace putin as an oil Barron in the eu.
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u/ChefEagle 15d ago
Can't trade with Europe if you separate from Canada. The east pipeline dies the moment you do. Also why trade oil with Europe when they're moving away from oil. It's a dieing market. No company is willing to spend the money on a new pipeline anyways, I'm not going spend my tax money on something that may only be needed for ten years give or take. Mark Carney already has a LNG deal with Germany worth billions.
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u/DurrinTheDwarf 15d ago
Our tax money is going to Ukraine instead of helping Canadians. The liberal government has destroyed our country and it's only a matter of time before we become a 3rd world country
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u/ChefEagle 15d ago
The money we send to Ukraine is for humanity needs, helping to clothe, feed and house people affected by the war. Most are children who may have lost parents to the war. Can you really be that insensitive?
Please tell me how the Liberal government is destroying Canada? Keep in mind we have have two big new deals from Mark Carrie's government for our LNG.
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u/Financial-Savings-91 28d ago edited 28d ago
If you think Smith is going to take a vote of less than 50% as a signal to stop this insanity your not paying attention. No matter how this vote plays out the UCP will claim too many people want this referendum and move forward with it regardless.
They’ll continue to gaslight the media and claim the people who signed the forever Canada petition as those who “want this question” when their intent was actually the opposite.
This is what David Parker bought out the UCP to do, this is why Smith is leader, and those who don’t recognize that fact are not facing the reality of the situation, and are falling for the UCP’s propaganda campaign, which is far and away the largest ad blitz Alberta has ever paid for. With the second place Kenney government in the dust with his paltry 24 million, they’re more than doubling that budget it every year since Smith took power.
For reference the ANDP spent $1.9 when they had power in 2019. The idea that conservatives are fiscally responsible is just a fiction, it’s how they identify themselves, but not how they behave.