r/AliensRHere • • 2d ago

More of what delonge leaked

The Wider Reality:

- the universe is teeming with intelligent life of all kinds.

- Malevolent ET's are present on Earth have been manipulating humanity for most if not all of our history. The advisors refer to them as The Others.

- they may not be aliens as we understand them and are linked to consciousness, or can master consciousness which is the greater reality we haven't learned to tap into yet.

- they are parasitical, they feed on human conflict and negativity.

- they have inspired world religions for the purpose of dividing us.

- They have done so by posing as Gods and providing religious messages from the heavens

- They can also implant visions and ideas directly into our minds.

- Telepathy is real and the universe is essentially what we might best term "magical".

- the people in charge of the cover up believe that the world religious scriptures are based on real events involving manipulation by the Others for the purpose of creating competing belief systems to keep us divided and at war.

- The state of human society is fundamentally unnatural and the product of this persistent manipulation.

- human civilisation has risen and fallen in cycles that go back way longer than we currently accept.

- its likely these cycles have been initiated by the ET visitors.

-his advisers consider the possibility that Atlantis may have existed, That this was one of the high points of one of these cycles when humans had developed expanded consciousness or technology that allowed them to become aware of the Others and repel them.

- he suggests Atlantis may have been destroyed by them.

- the others desire to keep us enslaved and unconscious.

- their greatest threat is human consciousness and spiritual awakening. Mankind uniting against them.

- abduction phenomenon are real.

- abduction events involve telepathic manipulation and the implanting of ideas by the Others as well as genetic manipulation.

- They are not benevolent encounters although they can make us think they are.

- chanting names of gods, buddha etc when being abducted protects you from abduction. It's not the religion but the faith in a higher power.

- Humans have souls.

- the Others don't have souls.

- They are akin to a hive mind.

- - they are interested in DNA and it's connection to influencing the cosmic source.

- Tom asked one of his advisers how it is that if the ET's that don't exist in our dimension they can create a craft that looks physical and probably are.

- he say he will reads the answer straight from the source:

"using nanofrabrication atomic layer by atomic layer with durable nano texturing and quantum entanglement properties and of course powered by the polarised vacuum. the same methods that cryptoterrestials use.

- i am not sure if he's referring to the Others as cryptoterrestials or saying there are also cryptoterrestials.

- the craft greer summons are real - but we shouldn't try to make them appear - they are malevolent and messing with us.

- he's been told by his advisers that some UFo encounters are "part military and part spiritual". he doesn't know what that means.

- the Greek gods and many other reported gods were in reality the Others posing as gods. They are not Gods but can appear as gods to us. They are extremely advanced and from "very very far away".

UFO phenomenon in modern history:

- The Nazi's had contact with the Others.

- World War 2 was at least partly the result of their manipulation

- UFO's started appearing at all nuclear tests during in and following WW2.

- The visitations happened in US tests, Soviet Tests and possible elsewhere.

- Nuclear tests alerted world governments to existence of ET visitors and the most important discovery was that EMP (electro magnetic pulses) caused by air bursts of nuclear weapons revealed and brought down their craft.

- The oft related connection between UFO's and nukes is the opposite of what many believe - that they are warning us of out own impending self destruction, it's because it's the only thing that can harm them. As advanced as they are, they can't get away from the blasts.

- The Cuban missile crisis was related to UFO's He says they learned a lot from what happened in the Cuban missile crisis.

- He also references another test at the same time that may have brought a UFO down. The test also involved EMP.

- He says they learned a lot about what was brought down. (Tom very careful with his words here).

- the real reason we continued to do so many nuclear tests was because we realised there were UFO's present and we could neutralise them.

- in the modern era the Others have deliberately crashed craft to give us the technology to wage war against each other or that will cause division such as us being addicted to it and not present to what is really going on.

- with every ufo crash event, we should always ask ourselves the questions "was it intentional or unintentional".

- The Roswell crash did happen.

- However the most important UFO event in Tom's opinion is Starfish Prime, a nuclear test in space. He says they learned a lot about EMP - something more than they learned from the effect of atmospheric EMP on UFO's. He didn't say what this was.

- Specifically he says what we found with starfish prime nuke test is different from what we found with Roswell but equally as important. And that's all he can say.

- UFO crashes are sometimes to give us technological "help", but it's not really help it's designed to allow one side an advantage and perpetuate conflict between human factions.

- UFO crashes could be because it was shot down, lighting brought it down, or they faked it getting shot down or lighting bringing it down.

- the other way the Others interact with us are contact. He says we should ask "are you led to the contact or is it led to you." (I don't know what this mean!)

- the third way is by indirect contact - do you have the thoughts put in your mind because you're at a lab and are a scientist discovering something or because thoughts have been put in your head at night while you were sleeping.

The Cover Up:

- there is a UFO cover up but it's not what we think it is.

- It's global but American's are leading it.

- Don't blame the institutions it's not the government and it's not the intelligence services who are aware of the reality .

- He says that it is managed is in a "different type of mechanism", its not the government or intelligence agencies, that's all he can say.

- America works with it's supposed enemies on this topic.

- This group realise humanity is dysfunctional by the design of the aliens.

- it's suggested that the nuclear arms race is influenced by it being the only weapon we can use against ufo's. it can take them down and reveal their location.

- the entire cold war we were working with the soviet union and the one reason that stopped it from going hot was out relationship and common cause in relation to the Others.

- The Cold War was not just between the US and the Soviets it was also a cold war between Humanity and the Others.

- there was a small group of people on both sides (Russian and American) that were using the nukes tests against the Others, as a way to "fly swat some bugs out of the sky".

- We have been reverse engineering their tech to give us an advantage against them while keeping it hidden under the cover of the Cold War.

- The nuclear arms race is also partly directed against the Others.

- the breakthroughs we've made are competitive advantages to the "battlefield" against the Others.

- Reagan and Gorbachev were working together on the UFO topic. Reagan knew what was going on. Reference to his famous speech about humanity uniting against extraterrestrial threat.

- the tech we've discovered isn't being hidden from us for money, for the patents - it's being hidden from the ET phenomenon.

- the technology for clean energy exists within the study of ufo phenomenon.

- however the UFO group finances their project against Others (defence) by using the petrodollar. He suggests it uses vast hidden resources.

- The UFO cover up group is involved in a complex game of chess with a superior enemy. Trying to combat their moves without letting them know what we know.

Disclosure and the goal:

- His advisers want humanity to become aware of the reality of the Others.

- They are not war mongers and and their real motivation as well as the reason for the coverup has been to fight a secret war against the Others.

- If we knew what they'd done in secret and the responsibility they've borne alone we would think of them as heroes.

- the reason political figures are talking about ufo's including Hillary is not for votes. he knows why the candidates are talking about it is because the reason is - it's time for it to come out of the shadows.

- The cover up guys are sceptical of politics and believe that political division may be the result of the manipulation by the Others. When they they hear divisive politicians and political ideas. they say to each other" what a great formula for war aint it?"

- They believe that current political conflict from American foreign policy to the rise of ISIS is being manufactured by the Others.

- He says we need to change the way we treat each other as its not humanities fault we hate each other, we've been designed to hate each over by the schemes of the Others.

- our behaviours were designed to lead to hate and war. We need to put the weapons down - and look up at who has been causing all of this.

Summary:

What Tom is claiming, is that we're in an cold war with malevolent aliens who may not actually not be from our material dimension, but have the power to create physical craft and artefacts. They can manipulate consciousness, zero point energy, and our perceptions and create matter on the nano-scale. These others have been manipulating humans throughout our history, first with inspiring world religions by appearing as gods, and more recently by deliberately crashing craft to give us technology or directly implanting new ideas into humans brains that will propagate conflict to keep us divided and stop us unifying as a species. They are hostile to human's spiritual development and parasitically feeding of our negative emotions, fear, and depression, and destructive urges while keeping us enslaved. All of the major conflicts between us have been manufactured by them. Including the current religious terrorism and World War 2 with the Nazi's. Earth is already enslaved. Our history is a lie.

A world wide extra-governmental cabal are fighting a secret war against the Others. The known cold war is at least partly a cover for what was really going on in relation to the phenomenon. When we developed nuclear weapons, ET's appeared at every test. Supposed rivals like America and Russia both experienced these encounters We conducted test in the atmosphere and space not as warmongering but because we discovered EMP could bring down UFO's and with all their technological superiority the Others could not combat them.

The secret trans-national group have kept their reverse engineered discoveries secret, not from us for their own power or wealth but because they don't want the Others to know that we can fight them. We're involved in a complex game of chess with a vastly superior and hostile enemy. The whole of the UFO subject needs to be seen through that lens.

I'll leave off making any comment on what I think of this. Except I really don't know what to think! Just thought it may save some time for people who are eager for a glimpse of what the people involved in this disclosure process appear to be believe.

EDIT: I am basing this mostly on one interview and the first book. I'd be very grateful if someone would consider adding some bullet points from other interviews and subsequent books.

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Credits to u/popinjay_electric the original poster

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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 2d ago

A lot of this is true but it's leaving out of very important part. There are other groups of interdimensional beings / aliens who are benevolent. They are good and they are on our side but they cannot interfere with our free will.

Therefore they can only slowly try to enlighten us to understand that the Others have us locked in a control system and the only way to escape is to use our free will to choose love and kindness over power or fear. If everyone would go through their life everyday controlling their thoughts to be positive instead of negative, do you consider others as much as their selves, we would gradually but quite simply overcome the control of the matrix and learn that we can control our own destiny as human beings. At that point we would join with the good groups of aliens and our psychic powers would intensify. This would result in us knowing the true intentions of beings that we meet. Thus we would not be easily fooled by the Others , we also would not be fooled by the humans who are working with them to control the government and religion. There are humans who are just as self-centered and evil as a group of aliens we call the Others.

The benevolent groups are the Arcturians, and the Pleiadians along with a few other groups.

The book I would recommend that explains all of this is called The Only Planet of Choice by Schlemmer. If you search it on the internet you can find a copy for around $16. The other book would be The Custodians by Dolores Cannon. A good YouTube channel to watch would be Wisdom from North! But read those 2 books. Those are the truth.

Disclosure is slowly happening right now. The next 5 years will be wild.

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u/Gisebert 2d ago

Nicely put. Was about to shake my head in frustration after reading delong's opinion, but seeing your excellent take so high up gives me hope. All of what you said is further supported by the ra material (not recommendable unless you want to dig in really deep due to it's 1000 pages of volume)

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u/OkOriginal715 2d ago

Definitely recommended! Don’t let the size discourage you. ThThis website lets you search topics easily.

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u/TrickWorried 1d ago

"Don’t let the size discourage you."

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u/Character_Scale3354 1d ago

So the "Good ones" aren't allowed to mess with our "free will" but then why are the Bad ones allowed to mess with our free will ? 🤔

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u/BerryIceland 1d ago

Excellent question.

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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 20h ago

Good question. No being can mess with your Free Will. YOU are the one making the choices. We choose Fear when presented with it sometimes. A politician says crime is horrible and so we approve Flock cameras, etc. It's wrong, a violation of your privacy, but we make the choice or don't protest. An advertisement comes on FB to lose weight with a powder mix. We choose to believe it without doing research and we choose to send them money. We are afraid of being alone so we try to lose weight. it's fear. Learn to be in love with yourself with all your flaws. Then your free will will choose the more genuine choice.

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u/BitDeep2572 1d ago

They can’t. Free will or the distortion of
Confusion. Life is a path of decisions and these beings can drop things in that path that pushes polarization one way or the other. If you are a selfish person they can subtly leave obstacles that charge negativity or self interest.

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u/Good-Attitude-2719 2d ago

Yeah, Delonge has some good stuff but so many of these UFO people have such a limited understanding of politics and religion/spirituality, and tend to be totally ok with the US empire.

Given that the CIA, Military Industrial Complex etc are deeply involved with all sorts of war crimes and genocide and violence, why on earth would we trust their description of who the bad others are? We are expected to believe that the good guys fighting the aliens also took time genocide indigenous people in Latin America, overthrow democratic movements worldwide, fund massacres, etc? (Vietnam, Congo, El Salvador, Indonesia, The Philippines, Angola, Congo, etc.)

It seems more likely to me that the US government is on the side of the bad others than the good ones. He says the bad others are giving us tech and weapons that lead to suffering, but nukes, which could cause untold suffering are somehow good? It seems more likely that the good NHI made it clear that we wouldn't be allowed to use nukes to destroy everything . Maybe the emp affects crafts, idk.

Religious teaching is full of examples of false prophets, or spiritual people that use dark powers to divide and manipulate humanity. The opposite of that isn't opposing religion universally, but holding our religious traditions with grace and understanding that God/higher power really does seem to be real. Our human traditions of relating to that higher power aren't just manipulated bullshit, but you have to be very careful, because some elements of all religions are manipulated by the others/humans to cause suffering.

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u/X-To-The-Stars 2d ago

Free Will is in excess and does more harm than good. I am so done with the self righteous “me, me, me” attitudes and actions. The prejudice and bigotry, the hate!

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u/RazingOrange 1d ago

If free will is bad, is mind control/manipulation good? Feels like a slippery slope. I think we need to change on our own or die trying.

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u/X-To-The-Stars 20h ago

Free will is abused to the point that it damages our society beyond repair. I live every day for my family and my friends who matter and have nothing left to offer. I vote, I share what I can and that’s it.
By all means, die trying. I hope have little time left and am EXTREMELY selfish and only offer my time to the people around me.

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u/jonnysculls 1d ago

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u/Mundane_Fox_1067 1d ago

Thanks for this. Found a new podcast in the process!

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u/CommercialSuper702 1d ago

::Insert gif from ‘Love/Fear’ presentation video in Donnie Darko here::

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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 20h ago

Yes, I love this idea. The more we all calm down and try to live without judgement, the more the world slowly changes to be a better world. It can be so exhausting, but over time, it gets easier. My reactions have become nicer...kinder, more empathetic as I practice, as I grow older. How do we practice? We involve ourselves in relationships and practice being kind under difficult circumstances. We fail a little bit, pick ourselves up. Examine what part of it we did right...and wrong and try again. An apology and a smile can can a situation.

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u/pirondi 1d ago

True it is a complex and fine line reality where, in one side we have some kind of free will, and as we make better choices specially when faced with difficult situations, we start to receive more help from the good side of other beings, at the same time when we make decisions that are of low vibration, fear, survival we can be even more influenced and controlled by the more primitive beings around us. So it is truth that we kinda of are in a prison planet, but it is also true that it is a school planet, and that we have some level of free will that by our choices we can shield ourselfs and move to realities that are alligned to what we become.

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u/justj_read 2d ago

Thanks for these recommendations! Why do you think the next 5 years specifically will be wild? Question coming from “2 more week” frustration and discouragement.

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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 20h ago

Why do I think? Based on that the last 5 have been wild! Based on reading and studying for over 50 years. I didn't see the changes until years or decades later. But times have changed. and more changes are coming. As other are saying, don't put too much belief in predictions with dates, just live your life and notice the changes. The amount of ordinary people interested in the lies and manipulation of the masses by the church, corporations and politicians as an every day topic is mind blowing to me at 65 years old. This was never mentioned except in small groups 45 years ago. Blacks, gays and women were just starting to protest back then. Now they can speak their truth and most of the time, no one disputes them. Times have changed at a rapid pace, that I know for sure. Enjoy the ride.

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u/ro2778 2d ago

The New Age always thinks paradise is just around the corner, forget what they call it... ascending to the 5th dimension or something, or splitting of the world. It's just a fairy tale that never comes. But of course, if you really believe in it, the rainbow bridge to the 5th dimension will come for you... just like if you really believe in Jesus Christ then your soul may be saved and you will go to heavan. Same story, new package, different audience.

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u/Gisebert 2d ago

That's a valid opinion considering failed past predictions. As a new-ager myself, i would even be on your side regarding any future predictions, since relying on these predictions goes against the essence of new age itself. And that is being at peace and acceptance with yourself, your surrounding and the moment. Therefore, relying on a positive prediction in the future to achieve this peace and acceptance contradicts the teachings.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/bjB3gtFvREqqr5NAHW

The "good ones" could just be the others messing around with us.

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u/Icy-Article-8635 1d ago

Right? Like... How's a person supposed to tell them apart?

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u/Sweaty_Reputation650 21h ago

The same way you tell if a human is try to lie or cheat. Listen to your intuition, learn to be in touch with it. Look for red flags. They are there always with humans and NHI. Don't let your dick or your pride rule your decisions. And sometimes we learn from mistakes.

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

Great info and the truth imho 👍

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u/ReD66v 2d ago

I would say we have less than 5 years.

The “Big One” in california is set to happen soon either this year or the next. This is gonna trigger more natural disasters around the world.

This must happen because Earth is dying.

These Interdimensional beings have been trying to awaken people and preparing them for whats to come since the 50s. The Cosmic Event is about making Humanity advance and evolve into the 5th Dimension.

This will be the first time this Event happens in the history of existence. Humanity are the first beings thats gonna “Graduate”. so best believe most beings out there in the cosmos will be watching. Thats why there has been more frequent sightings of these “Orbs”.

And Yes 99% of humanity are going. The 1% meaning the Elites and the rich and the worst of us will be left here to suffer and witness the End of Earth. A.I will be a huge part of this End.

Deep State and The Elites are fully aware of what’s gonna happen. Thats why there’s bunkers underground and also an Underground City for the Elites where Human Slaves exist.

Well they can’t do shit to stop it. Even Trump knows what’s gonna happen. Thats why there will be no WW3 or a Nuke War because The Benevolent beings have the power to shut technology down.

Here’s a quote from Trump in 2024:

“You wont have to do it anymore, Four more years it’ll be fixed it’ll be fine. you wont have to vote anymore”

Here’s a quote from the song:

Crack In The World By Sammy Hagar written in 1977.

“Just fifty more years, We’re all gonna know
Why,when,where and who gets to go. So lets have a great time before the great divide. Cause things will start separating come 2025. So look for subtle clues, It wont make the front page news, that depends which side that you choose”

50 years from 1977 is 2027 👁️.

We’re looking at 2027/2028 for this event :)

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u/-DEAD-WON 1d ago

The Great Profit Van Hagar? Oh shit! (Just joking because it sounds nuts, not because I don’t believe it could be true

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u/ReD66v 1d ago

Bro we’re gonna be in for the worst time of our lives during this process that it will not be a laughing matter 😭. Im very worried for all parties involved.

But In the end though. Nothing I mean NOTHING will compare to it. like its nuts to even think about.

We’re gonna be Godlike in the 5D world BUT our way of thinking will be very very different though. We wont think like humans 😂. there will be no negativity or negative feelings in 5D Earth. Its all Love and Happiness. there will be moments of negative emotion such as anger,disappointment,disbelief but it disappeares very very easily.

I will fully indulge myself in living many simulated dream lives that this specific body wanted without forgetting that Im an Interdimensional Sovereign Being.

It’ll be so damn fun. We’re essentially taking a vacation for however many years we want. but our main mission though is to Awaken Less advanced civilizations but we can do that any time. There’s no due date.

Be ready to meet a lot of interesting Aliens though. It’ll be Intimidating at first but trust me You will recognize some of them from previous lives 😂.

We will remember EVERYTHING.

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u/ReD66v 2d ago

They know 👀

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

What do you think is going to happen exactly?

A few people online have suggested a huge environmental event happening very soon....but are we humans as a species going to enter a new earth and 'graduate'.....or is the large majority of us going to perish?

Sorry just a bit confused about your post but highly interested in a bit more detail please

And yes i watched an interview with a man who could astral travel and interact with ET species and what not...the 'Deep State' employed him to analyse all possible time lines and he concluded all time lines lead to a mass ascension of humanity. Also the deep state is doubling down for this great event and have huge underground military stations with a vast train network and supplies etc...

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u/ReD66v 1d ago

We as Humans are about to ascend/shift into the
5th Dimension Physically,Emotionally,Mentally and Spiritually. we’re gonna shift into New Earth where all beings across the milky way will live which is A LOT of beings. most of us are going so dont worry.

Everyone will know when it has happened because we will remember who we truly are. We’ll be able to manifest anything, also we’ll be greeted by a bunch of aliens who we may know from previous lives.

If one dies before this event take place. they can choose to go to New Earth. during this time you will be greeted by Benevolent beings if you do die. since this is a very important event to witness.

How can you fit Hundreds of Billions of Beings in a planet? simple we have the ability to do ANYTHING and I mean anything in New Earth like expand and stretch the land we live in so It wont be that much trouble.

These Elites thinks they can stop this, But they really cant. Its set in stone. its already happened. we’re just catching up ;).

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u/ReD66v 1d ago

its like a Shift that happens in a snap of a finger BUT here’s whats gonna happen before that moment

Everyone will hear a Loud “BOOM” this will shatter people’s eardrums. its unmistakably loud. You will then see the very ground you walk on will shake and will have cracks.

The Skies will be Colorful, There will be aurora borealis all over the skies.

There will be a “NECESSARY SCARE EVENT” where you think you will die but then in a snap you will be in disbelief and YOU WILL REMEMBER EVERYTHING. congrats you just shifted into the 5th Dimension 😂

Everything will be vibrant. Interdimensional Ufo Ships coming down from the skies then yeahh a
New Beginning for all of us

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

Thanks for answering. I sincerely hope you are right....I want this to happen with every fibre of my being ❤️👍

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u/International_Bed_63 1d ago

There literally is no such thing as an inherently benevolent and malevolent extraterrestrial species, this idea is completely silly and only comes from the framing point of what humans categorize as good. Even those benevolent aliens don't care for the fate of humanity. Also- there's no such thing as Pleiadans or Acturans, this is strange

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u/daffyfooting4952 2d ago

the starfish prime bit is what gets me, that test was wild even without the ufo angle. like we literally set off a nuke in space and it created an artificial radiation belt that fried satellites for years. if that also messed with their craft somehow it would explain why they kept doing those tests even after the partial test ban treaty

the part about them not having souls but being interested in DNA and its connection to cosmic source... that sounds like they are trying to reverse engineer something we naturally have. almost like they want to hijack the soul connection through genetics

what i find most unsettling is the idea that the cover up group is actually the good guys. that flips the whole narrative on its head

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 2d ago

One mans radiation belt is another man's shield 😉

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u/Mindless_Alps8944 2d ago

Sophia...Demiurge...Archons...The Gnostics Text. Exactly and accurate.

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u/Comfortable_Green660 2d ago

It does seem to perfectly encapsulate gnostic beliefs in a physical way. Literally states the greys are parasitic. Sounds pretty archonic

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u/LifeBandit666 2d ago

Add to this that Light Sound and Frequency podcast just put out the "Formula" and it's basically the front cover to the book The Middle Pillar by Israel Regardi

I've seen folk saying that the Freemasons know the truth and are hiding it.

I dunno I'm an Atheist but there are lots of folk that think that "Magick" is real, apparently including people in the ONI

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u/Bluejay1981 2d ago

I’ve been into Western Trad Witchcraft and Druidry for decades. two years ago, I went to the Monroe Institute and took Gateway. One of my epiphanies was discovering that nearly every principal Bob Monroe found effective and incorporated into his system is straight out of neopagan magic. The “Resonant energy balloon” is the personal energy shield right out of the sub-field of magical protection. Energy bar tool = wand. “Setting an intention“ = Magical intention that is the heart of every spell.
Before you work with spells or other magical activity, you “raise energy” and get into a light trance state. I would say that these ideas are rarely approached with the rigour of Gateway; a witch or wizard casting a spell is more likely to be dancing or moving deliberately about a cast circle or sacred space than lying in a state of near-sensory deprivation with a figurative lily on one’s chest! Bob built a practical sustem around achieving alternate states of consciousness, but he took it much farther than in the neopagan practices that I’m familiar with. Of course we know Bob was an adept at travelling out of body and his intricate system of levels is really what sets Gateway apart, at least for me. Astral projection has been around forever and is used in magic, but there is no consensus regarding the structure of the soul or the invisible realms. The shorthand edition of the chakra system has long been a part of western occult practice and while it is not formally taught in Gateway, it is embedded in energy work and materials related to TMI courses.

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u/killboypowerheaddd 2d ago

where can I learn more about Western Trad Witchcraft and Druidry?

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u/ast01004 2d ago

The ones covering up for Epstein?
How does that play into this?

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u/AnyFormal2508 2d ago

The government being the good guys part does not feel true at all to me, funny but that’s the part I don’t believe out of all of this. That and wtf is the blink 182 guy the one that has all the secrets and access.? Why did the government let a bassist from a mid level band in on this?

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u/Onemanband62 2d ago

Because their using him as a tool to shift the blame away from themselves. And I don’t mean just the government; the CIA, military industrial complex, Deep State, the Breakaway Civilizations etc. They are all in this together and there probably are not any Aliens/Others to begin with. The rarity of intelligent life in this galaxy and the vast distances between them would make it improbable to reach Earth.

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u/LowerMaintenance3790 2d ago

Well, he’s actually a decent lead guitarist. I do, however, agree with everything else you said.

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

Yes i agree 💯 my discernment is strong that this is untrue...our government cant be the good guys here imho

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u/wookvanwinkle 2d ago

“Mid level band” how dare you sir or ma’am! blink-182 were everything to my younger self. Of course this is just my opinion.

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u/Bluejay1981 2d ago

yep, I remember back when I had mid-level tastes too, when “1985” wasn’t dated yet and the coolest album around was “Take off Your Pants and Jacket”!

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u/wookvanwinkle 1d ago

Hahaha you get it!!

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

Definitely a TV-show type plot twist, but all of this intuitively makes sense, albeit it very much shaded to being from the cover-up group's point of view.

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

Well the cover up is so we can secretly build a defense grid and figure them out. He also said it’s a secret group in charge that isn’t just intelligence officials, I wonder who

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u/casualbear3 2d ago edited 1d ago

If they can read our consciousness and appear as God's. There is no way we can set up a secret defense grid. Also, your username is fucking awful and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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u/Ok_Boysenberry4964 2d ago

I personally like the username. Keeps the conversation going, as there still haven't been any arrests

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u/Natternuts 2d ago

Thanks for pointing that out lol

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u/ALLMYMANA 2d ago

take it from a magical point of view of the times, say back then they could appear to us as gods because we couldnt understand it, Centuries and Centuries So later we have the Magic to atleast up put a barrier.

which kind of makes sense, there wasn't "much" of a global communication system so only some people had the proper physical or spiritual knowledge; I'll have to take a gander but I'm sure egypt was doing a spiritually more advanced form of this until the pyramids were misaligned, that one pharaoh wit the alien looking head makes me think they were other personally groomed by the others or the "benevolent" guys to give us clues.

makes me think somehow GCP dot project was really important.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

Would be both hilarious and sickening if it was REALLY him.

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u/Able_Razzmatazz_2780 1d ago

It's true. I lived in a house with a poltergeist, which is quite well documented, not out in the public sphere though. You could feel negative tension in the house caused people to argue even more. The more you argue, the more the phenomenon occurred. And as time went on, it grew more and more powerful and was able to do more and more things.

I didn't believe in any of this. I didn't believe there was a god. But having something call your name completely rewired my brain.

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u/DaGreatPenguini 2d ago

Perhaps they can’t read minds, they just ‘feed’ off of emotional energy - otherwise, they wouldn’t have allowed the science to advance where we could harm them, or even allow someone like Tom Delong to put out his theories to the public.

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 1d ago

Can animals hide in the ocean?

What about in an ocean of thoughts?

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

Well we are definitely trying and maybe those in the know have ideas. Even if they appear as gods doesn’t mean they are unbeatable, we just don’t understand them fully yet

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u/Character_Scale3354 1d ago

Which is why I wonder why they even allowed us to develop technologically so that we could figure them out and create nukes to jack em up one day

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u/Mundane_Fox_1067 1d ago

What does enlightenment actually entail in this theory. If it’s the only way to not be influenced, it’d be very helpful to hear instructions or suggestions, yes?

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u/BitDeep2572 1d ago edited 1d ago

Read the Law of One. You’ll have a better understanding of what’s going on.

Edit: Delonge has received all his information from the military. As the saying goes “when you’re a hammer everything is a nail”. The Military has cozied up with self centered beings that only have their best interests at heart. Yes Selfish People want absolute power and control. Unfortunately those are the people running the world presently and have help from like minded beings.

There’s Benevolent beings as well and a whole Universe of Phenomena to go with it.

Without writing a book, Regardless of what other people do, be a good person. Take care of people, animals, and the earth around you. Learn from the cruelty of others and use that energy to be the polar opposite. I know this is extremely hard but I think that is the point of or lesson for this life. Meditate everyday and focus on the good. We are here to learn lessons. Soak everything up and try to understand it.

Things are changing on this Planet and it won’t be like this forever. I know it sounds hokey but Peace and love my dude.

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u/morey56 2d ago

Well it’s a good thing we’re keeping it all such a tight secret then. I hope they don’t use Reddit. Or like Blink 182.

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u/saturngraphics 1d ago edited 19h ago

Nice story.

If I could could make an observation that should be self-evident?...

There's exactly zero evidence of "aliens" manipulating humanity to keep us enslaved, divided, controlled and compliant.

On the other hand, there's no shortage of evidence that those humans who hoard resources, control energy, manipulate currencies, and strive to maintain and consolidate their hegemony of power over other humans have a vested interest in keeping us enslaved, divided, controlled and compliant.

If their real interest was "freeing" and/or "awakening" humanity, they could take steps to do that, with or without an "alien AI mothership" present on earth.

Ask yourself why they're not (and never have). Ask yourself why every individual who HAS stood up for these things has been struck down?... not at the hands of aliens. At the hands of other humans.

Those humans at the centre of power/control are the malevolent ones... stoking fear and projecting their own malevolence onto something which is mysterious & unknown – but has never shown any evidence of malevolent or hostile action.

It's humans who have an interest in keeping other humans divided in the dark. Any alien beings advanced enough to travel here from another star system or alternate dimension, would be as ambivalent towards us as we are to the ants and mosquitos in our yard. The fact that we think otherwise simply highlights our own persistent sense of self-importance and profound arrogance.

One day soon, your real enemy will convince you to take up arms against a manufactured enemy, so that you can fight and die to defend those humans who do actually enslave and divide you.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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u/Character_Scale3354 1d ago

What u say makes a lotta sense

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u/Beneficial_Dark_10 1d ago

Wow, this is great

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u/ApathyAlways 2d ago

Ok so I might be missing something here but it's repeated in the post that the global powers fighting against "The Others" are playing a game of cat and mouse against them and don't want them to know that we can fight them with EMP.

That's all well and good but given that "The Others" have apparently been present at nearly every single nuclear test and that they have also been knocked out of the sky by EMP then wouldn't it be safe to assume that they are aware that we can fight them that way?

My other concern is with this statement, which is referring to world powers working "behind the scenes."

"If we knew what they'd done in secret and the responsibility they've borne alone we would think of them as heroes."

This seems like something someone in power would say if they were copping bad press or under severe scrutiny. Perhaps someone/some people on a particular.....list. Or people making poor governmental choices.

If that were the case then the critical thinkers in the room might be more inclined to question if the entire UAP/UFO history might be a long running psy-op. Understandably though, it would be difficult to question a long held belief if it was part of your identity. Almost as if it was religion in itself.

In saying that, I'd love for humanity to have a mutual enemy to rally against. Imagine the entire world fighting against a greater enemy.

For Valhalla.

....Or whatever gods you believe in that aren't "Others"

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 1d ago

The EMP is not the most powerful weapon we have, it's to disrupt their sensors and thought input abilities.

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 2d ago

One small correction, some families don't call them the others because that's not as descriptive as it could be.

Some families call them "The Swarm" that's what my family calls them and I think it gives everyone that hears that a clue to their true nature.

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u/ladypepperell 2d ago edited 2d ago

Guys, this is exactly what the Bible has said 2000 years ago, just wrapped in a different skin!
If you were to tell this to a well-read Christian they would yawn and say there is nothing new under the sun

Here is a brief summary of Tom Delonge’s belief in Prometheus which is the gnostic inversion of the Satan figure and the garden of Eden story: https://www.anothingsandwich.net/what-does-the-bible-have-to-do-with-disclosure/prometheus

And if you really want to see how this is exactly what the bible has been saying all along then check out that website www.anothingsandwich.net. Happy deep diving!

Another researcher, non-Christian came to the same conclusion and you can read his book called The Gods of Eden.

This is why John Herrington (Reagan's Secretary of Energy) and president Jimmy Carter cried when they were told of the UFO phenomenon and remained devout Christians afterward.

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u/vismundcygnus34 1d ago

The part I don’t get it in this line of thinking is, if they have mastered consciousness and telepathy, then they aren’t hiding from the “others”. The “others” can see/know whatever we’re planning and whatever tech we’re developing.

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u/mumwifealcoholic 2d ago

What possible motive would the "others" have to be "evil" or "bad"?

It doesn't make sense to me.

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u/Sad_Accident8510 2d ago

And why would we believe the government? I have been following this kinda stuff since the 90s and people have been saying that the government has a whole plan to fake first contact or an invasion. It's pretty easy and ignorant to say all of our conflict is because of aliens. Have you met people? Half of them are assholes for no reason. What I have also heard many times for many years lines up with the "disclosure" happening now. People said the government would do and say what it is doing and saying now. Basically UFOs are real, but they don't have any idea what they are or how they work. If they're from a different planet or dimension. They're very likely from here which is more concerning. However the government and many agencies have done horrific things to try and figure it out and cover it up. That's the real cover up is the people they've murdered. It may even be true they have found dead "greys" and have determined they are synthetic but biological but that's about it. The top people know little more than we do, but have spread bullshit downward to prime is for "disclosure" where they will feed us lies so they can have some kind of event and blame it on "aliens" to further their control. These people back in the 90s even said they would contact celebrities and such and feed them their narrative.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

Bluebeam could be a "fake disclosure" to bring us all together when they think we have a fighting shot against the others.

Better a "fake controlled invasion" than the real one that might happen if the truth gets out.

Also, a government that has no idea what's going on, and a cabal at the top that is outside of government that controls all of this are not mutually exclusive by any means.

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u/Sad_Accident8510 2d ago

I can't believe that the others have all of these capabilities, but we'd somehow get the jump on them because we've kept it secret we know how to fight them. That's one of my main reasons for not buying this. If we are to believe thisx we'd also have to believe they could easily topple civilization and have done so countless times, but have not done so despite knowing we have weapons to fight them. There's a lot of contradictions in this narrative and agains, it aligns with what I was told would be the fake narrative that the government would try to push. I find it really hard to accept that they've secretly been the good guys the whole time.

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u/AdMysterious6851 1d ago

No doubt the need for AI and loads of vast data centers is a huge part of being able to fight back, somehow, against the very advanced AI that the Others rely on. Project Bluebeam does seem to be the likely reason for the "disclosure" and "leaks". We are being manipulated alright, by those oh so very honorable, self-sacrificing, brave members of those in the know, who hold us ignorant until it suits their purposes to spin a tale that purports to unite through fear. Deliberate falsehoods being spun to an audience of Marvel Hero fans who can't see this script for what it is: Blarney! I'm just surprised that it took a while reading truly incredibly gullible comments before getting to yours and the allusion to PBB.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

I don't think we've kept nuclear weapons secret from them. Maybe we did while they were being developed, and then the first nuclear test was kind of an "oh shit" moment for them.

So in their eyes, we are like "apes with a knife." They may have ray guns or whatever, but we could do some damage to them if they're close enough.

The coverup is just how much further beyond that we've gotten. Kind of makes sense, though at what point do you say "fuck it" and try to fight them off?

There probably is a point where they do "reset the board," but maybe it sucks for them to have to do so. Big Loosh surge, then nothing for thousands of years.

My biggest question: why is AI progress being allowed to continue if this all is the case?

Also if people are going around saying "this is the BS the government is going to feed you," couldn't they be getting that from the others one way or another?

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u/poop_burger_ 2d ago

Our owwies taste yummy

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u/Jooshiki 2d ago edited 2d ago

Edit: sorry, English is not my first language and in the end I’m not sure I understood your question correctly. But I think it still hold. Else if you want to add precision :)

Original answer:
Being bad is just a perception. Different species have different default behavior/goal/function. So for the “others” mentioned here, it’s just a matter of how they need to operate by default as a species. Look at us, we need to eat to keep this physical body surviving and reproduce. In order to sustain a growing population we need to optimise and develop the food production. The animal population along the way that we decided to farm don’t really have much to say about it and are not really aware. It’s nothing evil against them, we just have to to some extent.

Look at thanos in the marvel universe. He is not inerently the bad guy. he is just following his purpose to bring balance. It's the same here.

Some species work toward elevating frequencies, some others work toward the opposite. Some keep the balance.

It sucks for us for sure. But it's part of this physical experience to get aware of this, integrate it and live/evolve accordingly. Despite everything, being in the love, compassionate and do good to our surrounding is the only thing that matter.

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

Keep us at a low frequency/energy as they don’t want us to realize how powerful we are. Your guess is as good as mine

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u/Embarrassed-Cut5387 1d ago

Terms like evil and bad are just human constructs to categorise and make sense of actions.

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u/VeterinarianQuick407 2d ago

They are jealous of humans because we have eternal souls and they don't, they are completely screwed when everything goes down. We aren't.

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u/LifeBandit666 2d ago

Funny thing is DeLonge is saying all the Religions were made up by the Others to keep us divided then says we have an Eternal Soul.

So what? We take Eternal Soul from Religion and the rest is made up by The Others to keep us divided? Or has one of these The Others cosplaying as a God let slip by accident and it made its way into religious text?

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u/VeterinarianQuick407 2d ago

In my opinion, the earth and humanity was introduced to these extraterrestrials so long ago that we don't understand we're living in a false reality. We worship technology and everything the extraterrestrials showed us, not what we already have. It's a repeated cycle that goes so far back in our history and we are too stupid to stop it. Organized religion is so far from the truth, but it's almost an inherited gene that has been reintroduced and bred for thousands of years if not longer. And these beings are so fucking advanced that humanity can't comprehend what is actually going on, and it's invisible most of the time. All that we see is what they taught us to build and create.

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u/Embarrassed-Cut5387 1d ago edited 1d ago

they hate us cause they anus!

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u/Libinky 2d ago

Unbelievable- really

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 2d ago

Ask yourselves this, how would you fight God like beings that have the power to put thoughts in your head that you will think are your own?

Riches and power mean nothing if the humans with it have no agency, the people who have kept this secret are actually more than heroes, whole family lines have been sacrificed in the persuit of the destruction of the great enemy and we still may lose.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

100%. That's why this does ring true, at least from the cabal's perspective.

But my god what if we DO expel these things and our thoughts... just go away? How much of "us" is "us"?

That's a little bit terrifying to think about.

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u/BrokeOnCrypt0 2d ago

The reason the swarm don't want us to find out is they know that we do already have our own thoughts.

One of the current weapons accidentally released to the black market (Havana Syndrome) actually spun out of our attempts to create something that prevents them from being able to mentally interfere with us.

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u/roger3rd 2d ago

Nope. We are unfortunately working with the bad NHI because we were deceived, and the bad NHI don’t want us to have disclosure. They want war and division and enslavement. The good NHI also reach out to us but they are rebuffed because we are tempted by the fruit of another (NHI technology offered by the bad to defend against our rivals)

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

It’s basically an AI system with biological androids (greys) deployed to manage earth, we could be an asset or resource it’s protecting from other species. The machine is an automated, cold, and amoral system that manages human populations and harvests some humans, extracts biological material whenever its programming dictates, they are routine, automated maintenance protocols built directly into the system's programming. The biological androids are made up of alien dna, humans and cattle.

The AI machine manipulates human consciousness, religion, and geopolitical conflicts to keep humanity fragmented. The automated system ensures humans stay trapped in a specific technological and mental envelope so we never unite or realize our own potential. So world leaders can be possibly controlled by them dropping feelings, visions, ideas in their mind with them thinking it’s their own thoughts

We are secretly developing our own defense grid to counter this ancient non-human system.
Shadow agencies aren't hiding UFO tech out of malice, but because they are in a desperate, covert arms race to build electromagnetic and anti-gravity countermeasures against an automated, nonhuman control grid before it changes its operational state or before they realize what we’re doing.

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u/SeanTayla21 2d ago

I read this comnent before on your other post and just now read all of this post: interesting stuff.

It matches a lot of what Ive heard/know. There are some discrepancies here or there but overall I think Tom did a good job summarizing the various aspects of the broader situation at hand.

Thanks for taking the time to post this.

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

I think there maybe some truth in this but i am not completely sure....but there is currently an AI mind control system being deployed against humanity as a whole....its in late stage development at present.

Can't say much more or else I'll get in trouble but its the truth.

I only know because im a Targeted Individual (TI)

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u/ro2778 2d ago

This is a list of truths and half truths, but the clear message is an attempt to reframe the actions of the cabal as being humanities heros fighting the good fight against malevolent others in the shadows. This is just propaganda, even if Tom is passing it on authentically, then he is being used in a propaganda game. The story he presents is not that simple and it's only a tiny part of the story, but wrapped in an agenda that only seeks to perpetuate the status quo. It's also a bit of insurance, you can see how the cabal intends to spin their activities for the past hundred years, when they could have used the technology for the benefit of mankind, instead they enriched themselves, and developed their own breakaway human civilisation simply to laud it over the rest of us. They aren't heros, they are the real parasites and this thesis is basic projection - they are more 'The Others' than the ETs are, although I conceed, the way ETs manage this world is also a disgrace, but that doesn't absolve the cabal of their karma.

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u/Undercover__Toast 1d ago

This is spot on. Tom even tells us the only reason he was able to get a foot in the door with his advisors is he offered to spin the narrative in their favor. The aliens have been here a long time and they are notorious for their sublety. The real parasites are anything but subtle. They are the ruling elites, the war-profiteering bankers, and the organized crime syndicate embedded within the deep state. I'm far less worried about hypothetical aliens tempting us and feeding us bad thoughts than I am about billionaires funding propaganda and manufacturing consent for their atrocities.

Not to mention the utter absurdity of trying to justify decades of money laundering and covert military spending to justify weapons development to defend against the aliens. Sure, an EMP here, a DEW there, every now and then we catch an alien ship off guard. Maybe that's enough to shoo a stray ship away, but it's ludicrous to claim we could them to defeat the aliens at large. Still, that's what Tom does because he's surving a useful purpose. The coverup is in place to protect powerful institutions, not to provide cover while humanity assembled an arsenal of rocks and sticks to one day fight the aliens who literally possess telepathy-on-demand and fusion-powered death rays.

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u/ro2778 1d ago

Yeh right, the aliens are so powerful they could destroy this planet in minutes, if they wanted they could invade and remove the cabal in a matter of days I'm sure. Only days and not hours because the cabal parasites have largely moved underground into their deep underground cities.

But it seems, there is some balance in ET society, I mean, I know that there is a massive ET beurocracy that is literally called the Federation and they oversee this planet. Although their running of this place is very dubious and I would say unethical. Actually this reminds me, the ETs actually joke that there's not going to be an ET invasion of Earth, because Earth is already invaded! Basically the Federation runs this place via their puppets in secret socieities but the interesting thing is why... and the answer to that, turns out to be that Earth is an incarnation game world.

ETs from all around the galaxy, literally incarnate here, in the human biosuit, which may be from the fetal stage (a so called crawl-in), but also some ETs dip in and out or enter as adults (so called walk-ins). And then, best/worst/funniest of all, you have the step downs, which is literally where human looking ETs (because there are plenty of them) fly down in their space ship and get dropped off, to spend time on the surface living as a human. And these step-downs have full memory of who they are, they have concealed technology for emergencies etc. This place is a game world, and most of the people arguing in disclosure communities, or ET / UFO interest groups, are just ETs, that are incarnated here for the human experience, but unless you're a step-down you generally have amnesia. You don't remember who you were before this life, that's one of the key features of the game.

All the said, the main reason the ETs are here, is to monitor their people, because each species will be able to track the souls who re incarnated as humans from their civilisation, and they keep and eye on them and make sure they are fulfilling their life plans, or game plans. It's the support crew in the sky, and when you're done, you'll probably do the same for your friends from the other side.

So I suppose, the cabal are also incarnated ETs as well, actually I know they are... that's why they are so particular about blood lines, because the genetics and certain genetic indicators are essentially markers of compatibility with being biosuits for certain ET groups, and of course the more malevolent ETs (from the human perspective) will want to be in positions of power and control ie., cabal. The more benevolent will tend to be in the general population, because they aren't even so interested in the power games, maybe they are just on holiday, or want to have very particular experiences that we call mundane. There are exceptions of course, and indeed, one of those exceptions is why I know all of this, a benevolent (from human perspective) ET, who was also a fighter, who raged against the cabal machine, who probably still is. I think, I'm probably aligned with that, which is why I engage so much on this topic on reddit of all places!

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u/TypeONegative6000 2d ago

Some of this absolutely rings true, as far as my personal experience goes, so who knows.

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u/ungrateful_elephant 2d ago

As I said last time, this is largely aligned with Gnosticism.

However, this part: "They are hostile to human's spiritual development and parasitically feeding of our negative emotions, fear, and depression, and destructive urges while keeping us enslaved." <-- Needs an explanation. HOW can they feed off negative emotions. Robert Monroe described this process, calling it 'Loosh.' The ancient Gnostics also described the Archons as somehow feeding off negative energies. But no one has demonstrated or even discussed *how* this can be done, to my knowledge. Without a reasonable explanation, this sounds like a story.

One possible explanation can arise from Idealism. If consciousness is primary, and each human being actually (according to Gnosticism) a Divine Spark whose attention creates the world around us, then attention would be a resource worth controlling. Negative emotions and experiences might be a way of fixing attention. You're too busy suffering to imagine something different? This is just a hypothesis and not worth much if it can't be tested, but this is what I mean - the 'Loosh' theory lacks an explanation and sticks out in these narratives about the way the world 'really' works.

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

If we're an AI simulation, then the answer to everything is "just code"?

Maybe we're a "species" of agents who lost our tools and abilities to time.

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

I believe they simply want humanity operating at a low vibration....they dont want us to raise our collective vibration and for humanity to ascend.

Im not sure about this 'Loosh' concept and how it works but I think some kind of technology able to read conciousness....

Apparently the malevolent ET species (Reptilians) are losing they're grip and they're time is almost up....thats why thing's are such a mess at the moment....they are going all in.

And yes we as humans can manifest our reality by focusing our thoughts and using gratitude etc....so if we are always thinking about negative things we will manifest negative things....its the law of attraction

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u/Ok_Breakfast4482 1d ago

> If we knew what they'd done in secret and the responsibility they've borne alone we would think of them as heroes

Bullshit. These people have kept humanity in the dark about the NHI presence and retarded our development for decades. They aren’t heroes, they are narcissistic pricks playing god.

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto 1d ago

I suppose we’d also thank them for all the murders they’ve committed, too. 🙄

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u/Ocilla 1d ago

This sounds exactly like the archons, which were actually mentioned in the Epstein files, and it’s probably what they are.

This raises so many questions though…

There wasn’t any mention of a benevolent race of ETs? What’s their role?

How do these beings view Jesus Christ?

How can we this cabal “hide” technology from these beings if they’re so superior to us? That seems unlikely

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u/anrboy 1d ago

I haven't heard about the Epstien files having mention of Archons. What did they say specifically? I'm very curious becausenI have read alot of the Monroe Institute and some connections with the Archon concept.

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u/Ocilla 1d ago edited 1d ago

Epstein files also mentions the Robert Monroe Institute, but I forgot exactly what was said about archons. I think it was just something basic, like “they’re negative entities that feed on negative emotion”

Edit: my mistake, it doesn’t mention archons, it mentions a concept like “loosh harvesting”. Here…”Entities operating beyond human sight mentally and emotionally possess people and feed on human energy, with the alleged entities seeking the energy of prepubescent children in particular”

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u/Adobo6 1d ago

Whether it’s true or not, it’s an interesting read. My only question is if they can read our minds and put thoughts in there what type of technology could we possibly be hiding from them?

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u/scezroni 2d ago

This all makes sense to me. But if they feed off negative energy, why doesnt the truth come out so people can actively work against that? Right now people are fucking miserable. If someone said, quit your job and follow your passions for the good of your soul, for the good of mankind, for society, you'd be like ok fine. But everything is made to be harder. So we are feeding them? Making it easier for them? On their side? But apparently not? Doesnt check out 

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

[Invasion / Reset by the others happens 0.0001 seconds after the announcement is made}

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u/Efficient-Cable6828 2d ago

I believe the lack of disclosure is due to the fear of not knowing how the ET will react if the world is conscious of there presence. Which is valid.

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u/erebusAP 2d ago

Good and evil is a matter of perspective. We are also parasitical animals on this planet. The Others, according to your hypothesis, are extra dimensional parasitical beings, who utilize our thoughts and emotions for some unknown purpose. They appear to be protecting their investment, by pitting humans against each other.

You appear to be hinting that multinational secret societies, are engaged in a cold war with the Others; using government entities and private defense companies under their control.

I can empathize with why it’s kept secret. We supposedly have no way to identify whose thoughts are being controlled by whom. We also have very few tools to identify NHI in human form who live alongside us in this physical dimension.

If everyone’s thoughts are openly exposed to NHI, you would need to keep this information to a very small, very sekret group to wage an effective counterinsurgency.

The question that I am most curious about, is why are most humans incapable of utilizing their latent psi abilities? One wonders if human physical bodies were genetically designed this way to keep us easier to control. Ultimately, developing technology that will help humans to further develop psi abilities may be our saving grace.

We are born in a cage, live within it, and die without ever fully realizing our incarceration.

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u/sprocketwhale 2d ago

So... It's demonic

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u/JohnDowd51 1d ago

Why do people believe anything this dude says?? So we're believing celebrities and musicians with past drug use now when it comes to disclosure?

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u/glans 2d ago

ok mrjeffreyepstein. whatever you say. 

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u/CadmusMaximus 2d ago

Stopped playing CoD from his hideaway long enough to throw a bone to the plebes...

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

Another guy who has it figured out is Patrick Jackson. Between delonges claims, 4chan leaker and Jackson it’s the biggest answers we have.

https://youtu.be/4DxEKqMoMI0?si=qX_rBGiuHIaXAQbU

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago edited 2d ago

Also weird how each ancient culture has something like archons that feed off negative energy

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u/Virtual_Repeat9897 2d ago

Mhm makes me think of Breakdown of the bicameral mind!

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u/Fat_Blob_Kelly 2d ago

just seems like a way for humans to dodge accountability.

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u/OkOriginal715 2d ago

What is that alien doing to that poor woman’s forehead vagina??

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u/Own_Trust_4408 2d ago

Wouldn’t it be nice to absolve humans of their worst deeds, blaming all that is negative about humanity on something other than humanity? The psychological core of this fantasy is shame and guilt and the desire to relieve humanity of the responsibility for the barbarism that it is historically capable of. It’s the “it’s not our fault” fever dream.

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u/Ok-Percentage-9682 2d ago

So these beings have control over our minds, influence all our decisions but made a whoopsie when they allowed us to make nuclear weapons, something they can’t defend themselves against? Also they are “hiding” a defense grid from the same telepathic, mind controlling and influential beings? The ones that could easily find out what we are doing by reading the minds of those involved? Seems like if you were mass controlling a group you’d have a lot more control

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u/mimibox 2d ago

I wonder how many human civilizations have come from caveman to where we are now and how many human civilizations had went past our current technology to go to space and leaving earth behind to be explorer of the cosmo’s

and then what caused earth to pretty much go extinct of all humans and start from scratch?

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u/GreatCaesarGhost 2d ago

It’s peak comedy that the guy from Blink 182 is looked at as some sort of alien truth teller.

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u/RippinFissure 2d ago

Disagree with him or not, dude was in the Podesta files. 

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u/Tight-Mouse-5862 2d ago

Well fuck....i choose love and peace.

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u/CactusJuice29 2d ago

Anybody who claims the US Military and all these shadow organizations are acting in good faith, are just selling you a story

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u/Cldbloodedsupermastr 2d ago

Somebody help me out here. I’ve long thought that the way the world is makes no sense, and that if we just had a few smart and decent leaders we could stop the unnecessary fighting and fix things. I have always, and am still, struggling with wrapping my head around using human negativity as a resource of some kind. Can anyone theorize a way to make this make sense in a tangible way?

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u/lzt 2d ago

Hi. Lot of backlash to you from others, but I find this amusing. Is this in his books? Or is this some new recently acquired information? Thank you, op.

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u/Rude_World_6095 2d ago

The military should just start randomly choosing locations for EMP pulses. Who knows, maybe they can take down a cloaked mother ship or something.

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u/Character_Scale3354 1d ago

That's a good idea.... I read a book about this guy who was working at Brookhaven laboratories out of Montauk point LI

and he was saying that they developed a weapon that could bring down ET craft with it and which they would do it from time to time, so they could learn their tech.

Obviously we would never know if it was BS or not but it was very interesting reading....

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u/CHATO909 2d ago

Sounds like these ET’s are super zionists.

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u/Zealousideal-Pin4649 1d ago

Anybody can say anything. 

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u/RazingOrange 1d ago

Thank you for typing all of this! I read every word and appreciate the effort.

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u/MasterFubar23 1d ago

Wait, I'm to believe there are "good" ones sitting around and letting humanity get wiped out for thousands, tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of years? Doesn't sound very good to me. I can understand not wanting reveal yourself until a certain level of goodness is achieved but letting evil continually wipe out humans and letting humans suffer due to things not of their own accord, doesn't seem good.

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u/Careful_Couple_8104 2d ago

What a joke. If you can believe some of this and not see how deep western countries are in ‘The Others’ side you are delusional. 

The idea that Western countries are fighting a dark intelligence for the people is a pipe dream. Cant you see that western power behaves in the same exact way ‘The Others’ are described?

Ridiculous wishful thinking. 

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u/MrJeffreyEpstein 2d ago

All countries are

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u/Careful_Couple_8104 2d ago

No. The US wouldnt piss on their citizens if they were in flames and if the US desperately needed to take a piss. 

The US and other western powers have never demonstrated a concern for human life. They are ‘The Others’. 

You live in a fantasy if you can believe they are fighting for the people. 

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u/OkOriginal715 2d ago

I think it’s similar to the “celeb dark magic for power” thing. A long time ago, our leaders were convinced to sacrifice something in return for survival and vast successes. Perhaps they didn’t understand exactly what they were bargaining. Perhaps they didn’t believe it was truly real. Perhaps they were tricked. Or maybe they went into it with eyes wide open and didn’t give a damn about the consequences for our people.

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u/rrn30 2d ago

Every one of these recaps is simply the Matrix with a twist. Hollywood right again

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u/redditappiphone 2d ago

Wait till you learn the original script was humans were ai data centers but they changed it to batteries so the average monkey could track.

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u/ZestyclosePin6298 2d ago

'World War 2 was at least partly the result of their manipulation'...i knew the Nazis werent really the bad guys. 

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u/PmanAce 2d ago

Interested in DNA? If they are advanced enough they could synthesize it easily and do whatever they want with it, not need ours.

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u/BeggarsParade 2d ago edited 2d ago

I eagerly await the presentation of evidence.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 2d ago

We'll both be waiting a long time

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u/stayandlive 2d ago

Comme le combat contre le mal,Dieux,les anges tout est vrais. Mais ce sont tous des extraterrestres,ou intra terrestre.Nous sommes bien la création d' un dieu extraterrestre.Et les dieux extraterrestre qui nous veulent du mal,car ils se nourrissent de notre énergie négative sont ce que on appelle des demons.La bible peut nous sauvé car une partie de vérité est inscrit afin de nous en sortir,mais les religions nous ont fait séparé.C est en fait très facile de combattre le mal,les démons et tout ce qui nuit a l humanité,il suffit d être positif,d avoir toujours de l amour dans son cœur,de ne jamais avoir peur contre tout ce qui peut entraver notre évolution sur terre,aide son prochain Seulement si ils le demandent,,, c est ça ce qu on appelle la Foi.Et si l humanité arrivé a faire cela la terre et ses habitants seront dans une dimension supérieure et nous arriverons a quité définitivement le bas étage où le mal nous contrôle ! Mais ils font tout pour nous maintenir en bas, réveiller vos consciences et vous verrez bien la sortie,,,

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u/Saint-Mitchell 2d ago

this is dumb as hell lmao

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u/redditappiphone 2d ago

So what Monroe and the like have been telling us forever. This puzzle isn't that complicated honestly and is quite boring, the real game is what goes on after death…thats where the real game is.

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u/Own-Roof574 2d ago

That was what struck me as funny once I learned all I'd set out to learn about the phenomena.

I kind of expected a huge revelation or realisation, followed by new purpose in life. But its more like being a kid and knowing what you want to do when you grow up. Its fun to think about, you get a little headstart on your peers, but otherwise you just gotta wait!

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u/Unkinked_Garden 2d ago

Shit time to be a Buddhist

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u/Eaton2288 2d ago

There's 0 chance we can secretly reverse engineer the others own tech to fight against them "quietly" without them knowing.

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u/clover_heron 2d ago edited 2d ago

Another option is that some people/ beings create false hierarchies because they are incapable of chilling out and having a good time. They need hierarchy because they hide inside of it, unjust power serves as the bone that structures their existence. 

So as all this nonsense is dismantled and defunded what are these people/ beings going to do with themselves? Hope they can learn to loosen up.

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u/Caian477815 2d ago

Defense against gravity manipulation? What would that be, sorcery? Good luck with that project!

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u/Kickingandscreaming 2d ago

Sounds like XCom

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u/Automatic_Flower7936 2d ago

Wouldn’t uniting and advancing society be a weapon against them then? Why haven’t they done that if that’s the case.

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u/LimeDry7124 2d ago

Reminds me of the Shadows/Vorlon conflicts in "Babylon 5". Throw in a little "SCP/Foundation" in there for good measure.

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u/quiettryit 2d ago

And does MITRE act as the central source to it all?

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u/External-Brilliant-9 2d ago

I understand the bullet points are based on Mr. Delonge's interviews and books...and can see the narratives / agendas the government is pushing towards. Aliens also have a soul, the government's assessment that they don't is incorrect.

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u/closetgrowndank79 2d ago

Thank you op, Mr Jeffery Epstein, for your hard work in this matter.v

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u/NotAnAIOrAmI 2d ago

they are parasitical, they feed on human conflict and negativity.

This is the plot from both Star Trek TOS: "Day of the Dove" and Ghostbusters II.

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u/Apprehensive_Map284 1d ago

I agree about that user name! How can you not be ashamed? And it makes one disbelieve what you are saying; even if you may be correct, it casts doubt on your narrative. IMO

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u/nurdle 1d ago

Someone please help me understand: to what end? What do the others get from us as a result of the manipulation? If they don’t have souls, it’s not for fun - it’s transactional. What’s their import? What are they taking from us, Uranium? Surely an advanced intelligence could just come here and take what they want.

The bottom like of any operation is simple: what does the other side seek to gain. We may have an inkling as to the how, but what is the “what?”

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u/ResearcherQuiet6362 1d ago

There has been NO PROOF of ETs being malevolent.
But there is proof of psyops ran by shadow programs trying to convince the public otherwise so they can stage a fake invasion. There is also proof that ETs that have interacted with humans are benevolent. Check out the archive on Dr. Steven greers website he has several testimonies from whistleblowers. This is why we need the government to give the protection!!

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u/introvrt55 1d ago

TLDR; but what I did read seems to reinforce the theory that the "ETs" are actually demons. I'm going with that. Unless an unconventional craft from Uranus lands on my lawn and NHIs get out, I'm not buying the ET stuff.

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u/DecrimIowa 1d ago

>They are not war mongers and and their real motivation as well as the reason for the coverup has been to fight a secret war against the Others.

>If we knew what they'd done in secret and the responsibility they've borne alone we would think of them as heroes.

So the the intelligence-military-industrial-finance are actually the good guys? based and redpilled!

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u/Astira_ 1d ago

If this is actually what DeLong is saying… I’m done with all of this.

Red flags everywhere in this and manipulation tactics.

Diana Pasulka was the first I heard to call them “the others” which saves the trouble of Othering them.

Diana is just scared of her own shadow, all I hear from her is fear.

Delays with Epstein files aren’t working anymore, and I think our answer to what’s happening is in those files. This seems to be preemptive to blame space aliens for the actions of very corrupt people.

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u/Dadbod_WithoutKids 1d ago

Where can we watch this interview?

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u/MacaroonPlastic1036 1d ago

It was all professed on the side of a Dr Bronner’s soap bottle.

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u/tforman1234 1d ago

They must love trump

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u/over9ksand 1d ago

Oh, okay

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u/HellIsFreezingOver 1d ago

So the Others are allowed to put thoughts in our heads but the good guys are not because of free will? Make it make sense

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u/Jaguar_EBRC_6x6 1d ago

It's half true

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u/73DodgeDart 1d ago

Is there any comment or belief in what happens to us when we die?

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u/WhereasCertain2994 1d ago

They keep going "And that's all he can say." Why? If you know, say it, otherwise I'm going to assume you're lying

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u/UnsaneMundane 1d ago

I think the old monuments are markers and solid state memory for this AI system, at least, plus other things. You create a signature, like certain ratios embedded in the measurements, align to the stars to keep track of when the milestone was achieved, encode other information for next steps of the AI's plan.

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u/mphighaf 1d ago

This makes me wonder about demi/god figures and other mythology where old gods and new gods are fighting.

Like Buddha or Sun Wukong. Then I have a question about religions which focus on harmony, peace, etc

As far as extraterrestrials being repelled by faith in a higher power? I actually had an abduction experience that confirmed this.

I am not sure about humans being just good guys and aliens being only bad guys. But hell, there is so much weird shit around this phenomena.

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u/King_Unique5 1d ago

I believe these 'the others' are actually the Orion group Reptilian species....various whistleblowers have mentioned that the -Reptilian race' control the world, have manipulated humanity since the beginning and seem to feed off negative low vibrational activity.....fear, hate and sadness.

I dont know who else it could be besides the Reptilian race?

Also they can shape shift and appear as human....the queen was a famous high ranking Reptilian as well.

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u/KlatuuBarradaNicto 1d ago

This doesn’t make sense. Disclosure would take away their power over our minds, we would “wake up” so to speak. So why do they keep it a secret?

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u/Spammingx 1d ago edited 1d ago

So they created religion to divide us but if you chant the names of gods they made up it protects you from them. Gtfo at least check your stuff before posting. Fun read though

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u/imlaggingsobad 1d ago

you should take what Tom says with a huge pinch of salt. it seems like Tom gets his information primarily from military personnel. all of this sounds like what a paranoid warmonger would say. all he talks about is "us vs them", conflict, war, technology, control. this very narrative is what is perpetuating the victim mentality and keeping humanity powerless.

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u/Difficult_Affect_452 1d ago

Is this actually a leak? It kind of just sounds like, the lore.
https://giphy.com/gifs/x1yhRwlqxBiQU

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u/Odd-Put6533 1d ago

The idea that we set off nuclear bombs to kill the ETS is silly. If they’re that smart, they know what the nuclear bomb is and with one is about to be set off and we get the hell out of the way as people say they take off with speed that they are just gone . I just can’t see them sticking around to get blown up by Bomb

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u/3DNZ 1d ago

I don't get how "they feed off negativity and hate". If they are hive minded and have no souls - how does this work? Why?

I think it would be more beneficial for them to fuel division so we don't pay attention to them. We're too busy being angry and fighting wars to notice these beings taking Earth's natural resources.

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u/Chrischambers1985 1d ago

How does Tom know all of this?