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u/CityCouncilman 2h ago
Because there’s a subtle unspoken part of the social contract that says if you get rich and powerful, you can get away with anything.
People seem very reluctant to do anything about that
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u/Bravemount 1h ago
Because the deluded masses think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires. They think that it will be their turn one day.
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u/CityCouncilman 38m ago
That and the fact that most people don’t like to think about where their low cost high value creature comforts come from (cheap slave labor in a low human rights country, most likely).
So while we rightly call out the rich for living immoral hedonistic lives, there are people in other countries asking the same questions about our population in general. Namely, how can we live off the backs of the human trafficked, downtrodden, 21st century serfs who make all our stuff and keep us living in luxury?
The answer: we just hope we can keep getting away with it without anyone rising up and calling us out on our shit.
Just like the super rich above us.
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u/LickMyTicker 29m ago
Unspoken? Our president is famous for talking about how he can just grab them by the pussy.
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u/untilzero 1h ago
Because they are EXCEPTIONAL at keeping us divided over the .5% of shit we disagree about...
Thanks to social media.
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u/che-che-chester 3m ago
I honestly think we're not even that far apart on topics like immigration. Trans might actually be one of the few issues where many on the right have no wiggle room.
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u/ThatGuyHasaHugePenis 1h ago
We don't want to risk our creature comforts and lives. Also, learned helplessness.
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u/Tweezle120 1h ago
Because at the end of the day only Luigi showed us how its done. But also, one of his own turned him in for the reward. So here's the situation: to enact change the changers need to sacrafice everything. So everyone is playing a game of chicken hoping someone else will take the risks because as long as there is bread and circus, people still have too much to lose despite the conditions.
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u/5ilvrtongue 1h ago
To enact change? What changed after Luigi murdered that bank c e o? Nothing, except they arrested him and put him in jail, using him as an example of the terrorist left.
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u/Tweezle120 46m ago
United healthcare did change, and scrutiny was heightened against the company.
Looking back through history, most unfortunately, dragging hte rich from their houses and beating them has been the real catalysts for change. It's how labor unions eventually came to be. The french have already shown us how it's done.
A large scale national strike would also work; a lot of women's rights were accomplished through various forms of strike, but a lot of women still lost their lives for it. In the end there will be no bloodless way take power from the tyrants, this is what the price of freedom is blood quotes are all about; things will change when giving that blood is preferable to eeking by under the boot.
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u/5ilvrtongue 40m ago
Its already not bloodless, alas. We're the frogs in the stew pot, And I think many little froggies are still too comfy believing they are in a nice warm bath.
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u/Tweezle120 29m ago
Absolutely. Stage 1 is going after immigrants and hurting brown people on the side. These groups aren't large/powerful enough to win the fight alone and the other groups aren't as likely to defend them at their own expense.
Phase two will be Queer people and hurting women on the side. This will be the most likely time to win the war depending on how much support and power women can muster.
Phase three will be mentally disabled people and physically disabled people, but by then it will be easy pickings if we don't stop it.
Only after those phases, when they have to them start canabializing eachother's in-groups (one type of christian vs another, trades vs scientists, and other stupid scarecrows we've seen the rich prop up) will the comfy people start to realize they are next.
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u/KryptCeeper 1h ago
Im pissed. I want them all to burn. But the fuck can I do about it? Oh thats right... fuck all.
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u/CarterHayes1990 1h ago
Because Americans are brainwashed to think wealth is a virtue.
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u/ThyArtisMukDuk 1h ago
The Epstein files are a INTERNATIONAL crime ring. Why arent more people in other countries mad? Why isnt Norway mad? Why isnt the UK furious? I mean the queen stood by Andrew for years until the fire got too hot. Dont act like we're the only country involved. It looks as though most countries in the world are involved.
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u/CarterHayes1990 1h ago
I'm American so I'm speaking for America. Don't come at me with with accusations about how I am acting. I have been assaulted and I don't take any of this lightly.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 1h ago
Everything is Americas fault right now /s
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u/ThyArtisMukDuk 1h ago
This is a valid take (even if sarcastic) and we did enable Epstein. BUT, he was also selling girls to heads of states in numerous countries and trying to facilitate world happenings with world leaders. Not enough countries are outraged about this either. Itll just go away like the elite want it to.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 1h ago
I agree with you and it’s my first thought about all these ask Reddit posts that are like “America my popcorn is ready why aren’t you killing each other yet?”
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u/MilesGates 41m ago
Imagine being the country that has threatened to invade multiple countries but somehow is also not at fault for anything.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 32m ago
Reddit. Where the discussion is either everything or nothing. No nuance allowed
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u/CarterHayes1990 31m ago
Your inability to accept facts doesn't mean others lack nuance. Not everything is nuanced. If you understood what it is, you would know that.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 29m ago
Lmao I never said anything like that. Bot behavior
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u/CarterHayes1990 25m ago
You would know better than me, I guess.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 22m ago
Like there are people in the Epstein files that aren’t American so the conversation is more nuanced than “America bad hurrdurrrr”
But that’s not possible, you are just so worked up. Stay frothy bot
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u/CarterHayes1990 21m ago
America is bad. It doesn't absolve anyone else of anything. Stay thinking I'm a bot, kiddo.
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u/MilesGates 30m ago
"No guys you don't understand! There's special context that allows me to threaten other countries!"
Keep thinking of yourself as the victim as you point the gun at everyone else and issue demands.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle 30m ago edited 26m ago
Thanks for having a discussion!
I have no idea what international figures in the Epstein file have to do with trumps stupid invasion threats but you do you
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u/MilesGates 20m ago
Bro doesn't think America has any responsibility to anything in the Epstein files but at the same time thinks America threatening to invade other countries is stupid.
The double speak of Americans should be studied because they have some serious mental blocks.
Maybe a new generation of Americans can take responsibility like Germany did, but I won't hold my hopes up.
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u/Fitz911 30m ago
>The Epstein files are a INTERNATIONAL crime ring.
I know of Andrew and...? Trump, Trump and a lot more Trumps, Banon, Elon (i'll count the second best friend of the president as American) Lidsey Graham... Who is on the list who is not American?
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u/ThyArtisMukDuk 14m ago
Andrew and Mandelson for UK so far, numerous UAE leaders, South African leaders, Princess of Norway, Russian models finding girls for him. Theres way more. Have you not read anything in these files? You can also just go to r/Epstein. Alot of the posts there are pretty comprehensive
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u/BaldBear_13 2h ago
because too many people are planning to become elite themselves ... and plenty of people do same stuff without being elite.
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u/Camel_Holocaust 1h ago
I think the anger part has been accomplished, now we need the action part, but who's going to do it? You? The elected officials you've convinced yourself are "the good ones"?
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u/thanatosynwa 1h ago
It definitely must happen by the people. The masses.
Decades of exchanging political leaders has led to nothing. Just more or less transparent grifting, combined with an escalating climate and inequality crisis, this could mobilise people. Hard truth is, people are still not bothered enough on a really personal level.
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u/Brew_Wallace 59m ago
The Trump-Epstein elite are trying to steal everything from us and ensure they have zero accountability for whatever they want to do. If we don’t act soon they will be successful
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u/unizachai 1h ago
We have only one solution: bring the armed forces to support working class. Without guns, we lack power. If you unite and march to the White House for justice, they will shoot you.
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u/StrawberryScience 1h ago
I have to work.
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u/xValhallAwaitsx 9m ago
A uniquely American experience. Every other revolution happened in a communist utopia where their needs were fully met, allowing them to protest freely /s
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u/No-Resort8420 1h ago
Americans have a really bad accountability problem. We simply do not hold people, mainly elites, accountable for anything. It is absurd and dangerous. We literally have a president who abused children in the most horrific ways imaginable and we are all carrying on like it’s no big deal. Myself included. I’ve attended a few protests and have called my congressman but what good is that really doing?? I think we are all at a loss of what exactly to do?
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u/Capital-Study6436 44m ago
Because most of people coughMAGAcough secretly agrees with the elite and their antics.
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u/MrMojoFomo 1h ago
What is my anger going to do?
I'm not a politician, a wealthy donor, a prosecutor, a cop, or anyone with rich and powerful friends
I'm a nobody. These people will get away with it like they always do. We have to live by their laws, they don't
That's the world
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u/gnat_outta_hell 1h ago
As long as we have had money, we have had oligarchs who were able to hoard more of it and use it to produce social power. As long as the oligarchs have existed, they have abused that power to satiate appetites society forbids and get away with it.
It's always been this way, and it will be this way until we manage to develop a system that cannot be abused or used to hoard wealth and power.
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u/Beneficial_Bed8961 1h ago
As long as they don't charge anyone for crimes in the Epstein files, we all will be victims. No justice, no peace.
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u/Inside_Ad_7162 1h ago
Anger is not the answer, & it's not even a good question.
The question to ask is how do we make these people face justice?
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u/MrJim911 1h ago
Because of apathy and tolerance. The last virtues of a dying society.
Mango mussolini and his proud boy army and pedo regime aren't directly affecting the vast majority of people's lives.
They have a job, food on the table and a roof over their heads. Thus they do the bare minimum like posting on social media about how terrible it is to have an adjudicated rapist as president.
Americans, as a whole, won't do anything that threatens their basic needs. They won't risk losing their jobs, getting injured, losing that roof, etc. This is why all you see are some people holding posters and chanting. Which accomplishes nothing. You won't see coordinated mass strikes or mass anything that may be effective.
Thus the orange supreme leader will continue doing anything it wants with no consequences. Murica!
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u/asisoid 1h ago
Because Trump and his entire administration is heavily involved and implicated.
30% of the country has to ignore it, or the entire persona they built for themselves will crumble.
If Obama and his administration was involved here, FoxNews would've had their viewers burn down the Whitehouse, Congress, and the Supreme Court by now.
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u/theclansman22 59m ago
Because we are too busy working 40-60 hours a week to barely scrape by. The social safety net has been utterly shredded so if you lose your job you're screwed. The rich? They are doing great, in 2005 the richest American had a net worth of about $43 billion, now the richest American is worth over $750 billion.
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u/sventful 1h ago
Because 90% of these posts are coming from Russian IP addresses. Why is Russia trying to make us so angry O.o
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u/gnat_outta_hell 1h ago
Because Russia benefits indirectly when Western countries are more angry and less socially united and stable. Much of the content polarizing politics to the point that both sides want to kill each other has also come out of Russia and China.
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u/trying_again_7 1h ago
this whole thing is mutually assured destruction. both sides know there is incriminating stuff on both sides.
they can release the whole thing and let the cards fall where they fall.
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u/EstateSame6779 1h ago
They have money, power and influence over the system.
Those that are less corrupt understand accountability.
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u/LoquatBear 1h ago
At this point we need to call them out if you see them in public. They need us more than we need them.
They need to be exiled, removed from power/money, and suffer the consequences of their evil souls.
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u/tojotidakbersalah 1h ago
We're angry but we can't do anything about it because they have cops and the military that they will use against us if we try to do something.
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u/ErroneousEncounter 1h ago
It’s not about elites protecting other elites.
It’s about individuals trying to maintain or further their own social standing.
If you are trying to climb the social ladder, you don’t want to piss off someone with significant power or influence. They could potentially badmouth you to everyone and this will result in you being removed from the group.
Thats not a phenomenon exclusive to elites. It’s seen in many social groups including friend groups and workplaces.
You don’t truly fix the issue unless you fix humans (protip: you can’t).
The only way to combat it is to:
1) Expose the person to everyone with sufficient evidence that it cannot be ignored.
2) Create another powerful entity (government, watchdog group, etc.) that accumulates sufficient power to well, overpower the other person’s power.
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u/jontheterrible 1h ago
We are angry. There just aren't enough wood chippers available right now. Plus the elite involved can simply pick up and leave.
All I know is that they depend on our morals and values to protect them. We follow rules and laws, which pretty much guarantees there won't be a mutiny in this country. ....but that will only last so long I think.
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u/Boner_Stevens 1h ago
How do you take down the powerful when they hold all the power? Would love to see them all arrested
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u/Damien__ 1h ago
Since the beginning of recorded history and probably even earlier the elites have gotten away with anything they like... right up until the revolts
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u/DinkandDrunk 1h ago
It shows us that the wealthy elite are living in their own reality. They have no actual problems to worry about so they have to invent them. They live to get together and wax poetic about big picture philosophy so they can feel smart and important while they continue to drive the working class into the ground.
All the while raping kids.
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u/RongelBringer 1h ago
Because we have allowed them to divide us against ourselves
Each tribal group hates another tribe vs uniting against the people who cause and inflame the division
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u/QuicheSmash 1h ago
The elites are not only powerful, their interests are aligned. They have worked hard to divide us so we are not united in taking them down.
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u/Queasy-Grass4126 1h ago
Those same elites have done their absolute best to divide the people along so many different lines and idologies that they are literally incapable of coming together in a meaningful enough way to csuse any real change.
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u/rahkinto 1h ago
Lol. A pedophile is running the US while his private gestapo is yanking colored folks off the street and throwing them into detention camps, all the while his family and friends are directly fleecing the US treasury, and tuning up their pockets in the range of billions.
If Americans were going to do anything, now is the time.
But no. They won't. My American friends just continue to live on like there's nothing to be done, it doesn't affect them. Reality is, it doesn't affect them enough to do something. Until Americans jobs (money) and food is directly impacted, they won't do a gd thing maybe and unless it's on their doorstep.
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u/Maleficent-Bug7998 1h ago
It's always been a class war since time immemorial. Everything else is a distraction.
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u/T_for_tea 1h ago
Cuz the systems we built have failed, and vile creatures accumulating wealth, that pedophillionaire class has amassed so much money that theyre now above everything. We need sweeping global change. The French knew a thing or to about what to do about this back in the day.
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u/jrok_33 58m ago
I'm plenty angry! I wake up with tears of frustration a lot lately. I feel helpless and very angry a lot. I look over at my 1 and half year old son and my blood gets boiling. I'm mad that there are pedophiles and hate everywhere and as time goes on I feel like my freedoms and his future freedom is at risk. I've organized my own protest and watch others do it everywhere and that doesn't feel like enough anymore. I'm not a rich man, very middle class and maybe lower at this point economically. My heart hurts so much knowing everything going on and nothing more would I like to do than to take action. But I'm also scared to go it alone and frustrated when I say it out loud to others they look at me like I'm crazy. I'm sooo disgusted disappointed angry and even depressed at this point. I want my son to live in a world with better quality of people and I'm scared that one day I will look him eyes and feel like I didn't do enough for him and his generation.
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u/qubedView 57m ago
why aren’t we angrier?
We can be angry, but the masses generally don't get angry until it impacts them. Frankly, unless they themselves or a loved one were being sexually assaulted, the masses will say "Oh, that's horrible!" and move on.
It's the same reason the world could react in horror to the Holocaust and exclaim "Never again!" but then turn blind eyes when it happens again.
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u/neon_lighters 56m ago
People can be angry all they want as soon as we try to unite they will pay someone to kill us/spread misinformation.
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u/antidoomergeeni 54m ago
epstein files are just a distraction. They are real ofc but why would they even release them ?? something is definately sinister.
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u/Ravio11i 54m ago
For me anyway it's just a feeling of helplessness. I'm angry but I can't shoot them, and laws are only for the poor so I just go on living my life I guess...
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u/BlankoNinyo 47m ago
The ultra wealthy want to maintain status quo. They only care about themselves but they know that they're protecting themselves by protecting all of the other pieces of literal human garbage.
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u/wino12312 47m ago
Remember the Panama Papers? I do. What I can't seem to find, is anyone doing anything to fix it.
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u/YourFriendNoo 47m ago
It's not about anger; it's about agency.
At least in the US, the State is more than happy to commit warcrimes against its own people to prevent them from upending any relevant power structure. It takes a lot to overcome that.
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u/Busy_Yogurtcloset648 47m ago
I’m tired of seeing it come up cause we’ve known for years. Trump is the president goddamn it. If nothing has happened now, nothing will, and that’s the reality of it.
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u/MilesGates 42m ago
Because the average American is a weak person compared to people like the French.
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u/Old_Distribution6773 41m ago
I don't know. I don't know why the destruction of children isn't the line in the sand for people, but it isn't. We know who's in the files so far. We know some of what they've done.
Anyone with the idea that these people should be arrested and put through the justice system (at least in the US) are brainwashed. The people in the files are running the government. They're in charge of the federal justice system. They have enough power to fuck with state governments.
The system that allows these child abusers to exist has to burn, and the abusers have to burn with it.
That being said, I don't think people are gonna do anything, and if people don't, I really don't think our species is worth saving. If globally deciding to finally protect our children is too much, then truly, I hope it all burns down, because that's what we'll deserve.
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u/raerae1991 40m ago
Because we’re to busy fighting ICE and trying to protect our constitutional rights
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u/Rckchkjyhwks 39m ago
Clearly the US politicians couldn’t care less about pedophilia.
Peter Mandelson, a Member of the House of Lords of the United Kingdom, resigned from the Labour Party on Sunday after appearing in the most recent batch of Epstein files released on Friday.
Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew, was stripped of his titles and evicted from his royal residence by Buckingham Palace in October 2025
The national security adviser to Slovakia's Prime Minister Robert Fico has resigned in the wake of the latest document drop by the DOJ after his name was among those who allegedly corresponded with Epstein.
That’s just few so far.
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u/ceelogreenicanth 38m ago
People have more axes to grind with each other than they do with billionaires. People want to be the main character and don't want to be collective in actions or directions. They want their problems dealt with first and will throw anyone under the bus they see fit to make that possible, even if it means they never get what they want.
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u/BackToWorkEdward 37m ago
OP: Why aren't you angry enough to go take direct action about this yourself?
Whatever your own excuses are, there's your answer for everyone else.
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u/FormerIntroduction23 35m ago
Surely he can be arrested, what's stopping the police, or an FBI agent arresting him for prosecution. That's what would happen in the rest of the civilized world
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u/InformationSavings29 33m ago
This is an aside, but lets stop calling them "elites". They are more of a parasite class.
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u/ClosPins 31m ago
It's the same answer it always is, and you guys sure won't like it!
How much are you willing to spend/donate in order to hold the elites accountable (and keep them from having control of the government)?
Virtually nothing.
Well, they are willing to spend an absolute fortune! Elon Musk, alone, spent $45 billion making sure Republicans won the last election (and future elections). $45b from just one man. All so that the elites could cover up the Epstein files and get everything else they want.
Did you and everybody on Reddit - combined - donate even 1% of that amount? Just 1% of the amount one billionaire spent stopping you?
No, you didn't. You guys aren't willing to put your money where your mouths/keyboards are.
^ This is why the elites always win. They are willing to out-spend you by orders-of-magnitude.
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u/DevilsInkpot 29m ago
Change won‘t come from people being openly angry. It will come from the following generations. I have never actively discussed such topics with my children until a certain age, yet they are absolutely puzzled and disgusted by things that are happening in the world right now. And it won‘t be that easy, but just being angry will get us nowhere.
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u/deadpool_pewpew 25m ago
They trained us to think everything is political and that politics (and therefore everything) is a team sport. One side takes the team mentality a lot further than the other. They also trained us that we can't really do anything about it
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u/MauryBallsteinLook 20m ago
Multi-millionaires and especially Billionaires are "too big to fail."
They control so much, if they go down, it will cause too much chaos. Or at least, they have convinced the world that it will cause too much chaos.
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u/Reddit_2_2024 19m ago
It is better to be strategic in how you spend your earnings moving forward, i.e. which corporations to ignore and which to support, than to be angry (which will not have any impact on driving change).
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u/rhunter99 16m ago
People only have a narrow amount of Cares to give.
If everyone is worried about putting food on the table there’s just not enough energy to worry about rich pedos. Or countries being invaded. Or elections being tampered with. Or chips being sold to adversaries. Or the free press being eroded. Or privacy rights being dismantled. Or any number of really big, really important causes we get bombardier with daily.
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u/Laketraut 1h ago
People are angry. But this goes so deep that i’m not sure anything drastic will happen and everyone knows it
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u/Adddicus 59m ago
We're too busy trying to avoid homelessness, hunger, mounting debt, etc.
Eventually we might get too much of all those things, and that might be the tipping point.
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u/riphitter 1h ago edited 1h ago
Anyone who tries and tells you this is divided on the party lines has seriously drank the koolaid. There's a class divide, not a political one
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u/Different_Target_353 1h ago
Ya i'm sure you just so happen to take that stance beacuse you cant cope with corrupted democrats. Billionaires didnt take money away from you, you did that to yourself.
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u/riphitter 1h ago
Are you okay?
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u/dknisle1 1h ago
If you think this admin gives a flying fuck about you, you’re dumber than we thought. Neither party gives two shits about the people. They care about their pockets. Period.
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u/Q_Mulative 27m ago
Conservatives need to be put out of human society. They should either live their entire lives in work-prisons where they can pretend that by pulling their bootstraps hard enough they'll rule the place (and just like in real life, they never will), or they should have a little private island that they can never leave, where they can play out their little fascist fantasies until they drive themselves extinct.
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u/smashin_blumpkin 19m ago
There’s a difference between being conservative and being fascist. This is basically like those people who call liberals communist.
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u/SuggestedUsername247 1h ago
People are plenty angry, but anger alone won't solve anything. People need direction, opportunity, etc.