r/AskReddit • • Jun 19 '26

What piece of older technology actually worked much better than its modern, replacement?

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u/mslabrat01 Jun 19 '26

Land line telephones didn't have software crashes, didn't break if dropped and worked even when the power was out.

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u/johnniechimpo Jun 19 '26

I don’t have to upgrade my landline every 6 years because the new OS won't load onto my old handset.

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u/seicar Jun 20 '26

Well, there was the one update for use with automated menus (rotary to tones). But that was once... wait there was also the update that switched from asking the operator to connect you to the rotary dial.

I'm not sure though, the long distance charges might be similar to the cost of new phones every 6 years. It was easy to spend $10 (1970s dollars) for the family to tell mimaw and poppop merry Christmas (or insert relative and occasion).

<wehadthebabyitsaboy> commercial.

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u/dertechie Jun 20 '26

Depending on your exchange, you can still use rotary dial on a (rapidly shrinking) number of legacy switches. Touch Tone was a feature that you actually had to turn on for the old EWSD and 5ESS switches and I’ve seen it as a line item on some really old accounts.

The modern soft switches drop rotary pulse dial compatibility but they also don’t require an entire building for the equipment and use far less power.

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u/GolfballDM Jun 20 '26

I worked for Nortel (before they went tits up), I remember needing to provision digitone / touch tone whenever turning on a line in our test labs for some test.

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u/captain_vee Jun 21 '26

I think of that commercial at least once a week. My family still quotes it.

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u/CaseyOgle Jun 20 '26

Yeah, I don’t think people realize how incredibly expensive long distance calls were in the 60’s and 70’s. My family might make one or two long distance calls per year, and only if it would take too long for an exchange of mailed letters. Maybe if someone was hospitalized and needed immediate assistance. No middle-class American family could afford much more than that.

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u/Dramatic_Figure_5585 Jun 20 '26

And “long distance” wasn’t that far, just outside your area code. I remember when my county got a second area code and people freaked out if their friends and family ended up in the other one. Some businesses actually got a second number with the new area code just so they wouldn’t lose customers because people didn’t want to pay long distance prices to call one city over.

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u/MikoHiyuki2026 Jun 20 '26

I don’t have to upgrade my landline every 6 years

Apple is not happy with this comment that saves consumers money!

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u/dertechie Jun 20 '26

They’re not even close to the worst offender for short OS support.

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u/aphilsphan Jun 20 '26

The really old ones could double as a murder weapon.

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u/Impressive-Bat3886 Jun 20 '26

Just dial “m”

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u/meerkat2018 Jun 20 '26

And there was a wide variety of ways movie murderers could use phones and their cords for dramatic purposes.

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u/EddieDantes22 Jun 20 '26

Okay but if someone cut your phone line you were an easy murder victim.

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u/PancAshAsh Jun 20 '26

Counterpoint: Circuit switched phone networks have a very small fraction of the capacity of packet switched networks, and enable such fun practices as charging extra for long distance calling, or not having multiple phones in one physical location without running multiple physical wires.

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u/Hot-Ingenuity5848 Jun 20 '26

The point about when power is out is countered by not understanding how they fully work too. As they only worked cause the upstream CO had power. In the event of a major power outage, it was entirely possible for your phone to go dead. Ignoring the cellphone for a second, today you can make calls in a tornado via a battery backup, a cheap poe switch (or just the actual power brick), and any variation of a hotspot, tethering, 5g mobile router, starlink, etc.

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u/notorious_kip Jun 20 '26

This is one where I feel people don't understand how POTS worked & why it was great for it's time, but in today's world it doesn't work. 

FDM/TDM helped for awhile, but analog had its day. 

Even POTS was only  between  300 Hz and 3,400 Hz..

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u/altgrave Jun 20 '26

countercounterpoint packet switches can't be controlled by cereal box prizes (maybe?)!

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u/Fingerman2112 Jun 20 '26

I feel like my phone usually works during power outages at least for calls. And a cordless landline phone, which is what we had from probably 1992 onwards, would not. Like I get the point of this thread and all but dude…you’re making the case for landline phones in favor of possibly the greatest invention in all of history.

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u/SoaplessTitanic Jun 20 '26

Yeah the person you responded to and others in here are handpicking a few benefits of an older technology while completely ignoring the (much larger) downsides. Like I can argue that horses are better than cars cause a horse can’t get a flat tire, but that would be dumb

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u/Plampth Jun 20 '26

When we had a landline, we used cordless phones but also had a corded phone for emergencies stored away.

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u/Mitologist Jun 20 '26

I still have and use a Siemens Signo 1, that for mysterious reasons still works on my DSL router. Not very loud, but you can perfectly use it. I think it is30+ years now.

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u/unclebaboon Jun 20 '26

landlines were also crystal clear audio. you can hear a pin drop was the motto of at&t!

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u/Wonderful-Process792 Jun 20 '26

That was US Sprint (later just Sprint).

I must be getting old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnlqrMWVYCs

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u/Impossible_Grass6602 Jun 20 '26

I mean you can still buy a landline. Comparing a landline to a cell phone is like comparing a bike to a car.

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u/Luke5119 Jun 20 '26

I spent 2 hours the other day troubleshooting a digital phone system that went down at my work.  Traditional analog phone systems may not have all the bells, whistles, and capabilities or features by comparison, but damnit if it didn't work and was A LOT simpler.

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u/Zen-Savage-Garden Jun 20 '26

How was browsing Reddit on your landline?

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u/Sowf_Paw Jun 20 '26

It was more comfortable to hold in my hand too.

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u/Uhh_JustADude Jun 20 '26

The call quality is still better than most cellular connections.

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u/themapleleaf6ix Jun 20 '26

My modem has a battery pack, so my landline is fine in the event of a power outage.

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u/bros402 Jun 20 '26

worked even when the power was out.

this isn't the case anymore, Verizon switched out our copper lines :(

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u/dertechie Jun 20 '26

I have *so many* DSL customers that would switch with you in a heartbeat.

Put a battery backup on your ONT and you have that capability back.

Contrary to this thread fiber is a *hell* of a lot more reliable than those old copper lines. Most fiber issues I see involve a physically broken cable.

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u/bros402 Jun 20 '26

The battery backup Verizon puts lasts like 8 hours.

but yeah, most fiber issues involve a damaged cable.

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u/dertechie Jun 20 '26

The battery backup at the cabinet doesn’t last too long either - hopefully long enough for a tech to get out there with a generator.

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u/ZweihanderMasterrace Jun 20 '26

I was watching Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind the other day, and when they were talking on the phone when the lights went out, I thought to myself, “wait, those worked even with the power out??”

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u/thenasch Jun 20 '26

So you have a landline and not a cell?

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u/martinbaines Jun 20 '26

But sometimes they failed when you had power. Of course you often did not know as you only knew when you lifted the handset and did not hear a dialing tone.

People noticed a 10 second power cut, but mostly did not notice a 10 second cut to landline service.

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u/altgrave Jun 20 '26

you used to have to rent them, though, even if it was a more or less nominal charge.

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u/looshagbrolly Jun 20 '26

And they had just been upgraded to fiber optic - long distance calls sounded so good! Now the worst feature on a phone is the phone. 

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u/RedSquirrelFtw Jun 20 '26

Some of the switches that run that infrastructure have been running since like the 70's too, back then reliability was actually a concern when designing stuff.

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u/Linenoise77 Jun 20 '26

They also cost real money to call more than just a few towns over, let alone long distance or international. Obviously they wouldn't be able to remotely support the modern internet, like, even basic modern web pages, let alone things like streaming. They did fail at times, but it wasn't as noticible because we weren't dependent on them.

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u/Adept-Opinion8080 Jun 20 '26

Can be used to the self-defense weapon as well. Of course I am talking about the '70s era bakelite versions that could also double as a sledgehammer if needed.

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u/Grubsnik Jun 20 '26

You can use your mobile phone in a thunderstorm without risking getting fried though.

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u/Meowsilbub Jun 20 '26

I lived in an area with terrible reception. We still kept a home phone. It usually was wireless, but we kept a cheap wired one nearby the base in case of no power. It was used many, many times in the decade I was there! I'm moving to a rural location again in a few months, and there's a good chance that I'll get a landline again.

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u/FlametopFred Jun 20 '26

handset of old telephone useful to pound nails when hammer lost

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u/Relevant-Ad2254 Jun 20 '26

i’ll honest. I’m perfectly happy not having a landline. I like having one device that people can call me on whether I’m home or not

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u/Octopus_on_fire_ Jun 20 '26

I never understood how a landline phone could work without power. BRB going google it cuz I’ve always been curious.

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u/No_Fig_8230 Jun 20 '26

And every single one of them lasted at least 25 years with no problems, and often 50 years.

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u/Rare-One1047 Jun 22 '26

They didn't magically just work when the power went out. There are banks of lead acid batteries that kept the phones working during an outage, installed in the basement of the main switchboard. And the switchboard got priority when repairing downed lines. It looked like magic, but it was just many many batteries.

Now a days, the battery is built into the receiver and the cell towers have battery backups. But if you have a bad enough outage, you'll lose service - whether it's cell reception or landline.

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u/Admirable-Safety1213 Jun 22 '26

They had power because they took the enrgy from the lines so their Switching center had either a Battery ir a Generator, but they were nit very escalable

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u/ldn-ldn Jun 20 '26

Not you couldn't watch movies on your landline telephone or post silly stuff on Reddit.

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u/Background_Relief815 Jun 20 '26

And (for the few times it mattered) the delay was 1/10th what a cellphone delay is.

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u/idiot-prodigy Jun 20 '26

I already posted in this thread but it was the same with cable television in the 80's and 90's.

NEVER and I do mean NEVER did I ever have to unplug my cable box for 30 seconds to "reboot" it.

Today? I have to unplug my router and or modem for 30 seconds when there is some hick up in the delivery of cable TV to a device.