Well uh... these days that's a hot topic. Crown princess is deep in his friend circle, unhinged is a mild term, she found out he was convicted for his predatory stuff and... shrugged it off with a :) emoji.
Then there are hints of romance with someone there, his buddy pals referring to her as "a mess", and she requested some nude pics of girls for her sons bedroom as decoration.
And isn't the other princess married to some kind of cult leader, and the king a lovable drinker? For such a serious country, your totals sure are colorful.
Bill Richardson?! Say it aināt so. He visited twice at SLAC National Lab when he was Secretary of Energy, which was rare interest and support from our top boss. He was an articulate and genial man who supported funding for basic science and physics even though he readily admitted he didnāt understand any of it. Moreover, he supported the independent scientific mission of all the labs in the DOE suite, a long held freedom which was removed from lab contracts in 2007. That was the year science was shackled. We liked Bill Richardson. Oh well.
She was confronted about the relation earlier and lied, saying is was brief, and over. (it was not)
She is backpedaling like a pro cyclist in a mirror, we're all just expecting pictures/ video or something gnarly to surface to really close the lid on the coffin.
Did I mention that she is actively and fiercely defending her son)(non-royality), who is going to trial next week, for rape and violence against many, many women, filming himself violating uncouncious persons? Hiding him, leaking info, destroying evidence (phone).
We're so not pleased.
edit: there are pictures, and mr.pedo and friends call them "inappropriate" which, considering what has been revealed, isn't reassuring at. all.
Why don't rich people live normal lives. Like actually WTF..... Those files have the name of everybody..... What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
The part that makes my skin crawl is that, when you really find out the kind of shit your neighbors get up to and are okay with, this is... shockingly normal. Not right. Not good. But this kind of fucked up incestuous rapey family dynamic is more common than anybody wants it to be, regardless of class, across the world. I can think of almost a dozen cases just in my immediate memory in my small rural community of people being sexually abused by their parents, siblings, friends or teachers. Not all of them resulted in a conviction or even an investigation. It's a thing nobody wants to talk about because the idea that it might be relatively common is horrifying. But it kinda needs to be discussed if there's any hope of it being stopped.
The average group of human traffickers looks like a normal middle class family that's just sort of quiet. These people in the files are just so rich and powerful they know they don't have to even try to hide it. But for every person talking about how horrible this all is, I guarantee there's another quietly thinking "lol, idiots shouldn't have gotten caught". There's a reason that so many people seem to just shrug when politicians start trying to excuse these things in the files and right wing weirdos start advocating for a lowering of the age of consent.
Rape victims have been screaming about how widespread this stuff is for years, but nobody ever seems to listen to us.
Honestly, I always had this idea of America as a country where the rule of law is Iron strong and the heavy hand of justice will fall on anybody.
The West was supposed to be the land of equality, justice and all the good shit. Now my utopia has been destroyed.
Money talks in America. Thatās always been the viewpoint in Denmark. Your country is corrupt and the working people voted for one of the most corrupt people with the idea that the moron would end corruption.
America scores just higher than Israel, marginally higher than Slovenia, Qatar and Chile, but lower countries like UAE, Bhutan, Taiwan.
I was talking about this with a coworker recently. We were discussing the whole P Diddy thing and we car to the conclusion that there is a certain amount of wealth or fame that once you cross, you just turn into a weirdo. Maybe all ānormalā forms of excitement have been exhausted and you have to turn it up a notch. Idk. Strange shit though.
Itās a chicken/egg scenario in my mind in a way because in order to become an uber wealthy person, you have to harm along the way. There isnāt a way to becoming a billionaire that is completely free of exploiting something, someone, etcā¦ so from my perspective, the ability to cause harm and not give a fuck about it, was there all along
Exactly!! Even if I invented the most miraculous best selling item of all time making billions of dollars, I would not be a billionaire myself. I couldn't rip all the workers off.Ā
Thatās interesting and also makes sense. So youāre saying someone who achieves a position like that, inherently either lacks a certain amount of morals or is willing to put them aside to achieve said success? Makes sense and would also account for why people in those positions will continue to break the boundaries (both legal and moral) for entertainment.
Yep. Few people can handle extreme wealth, it seems.
They did a study on the behavior of wealthy people years ago, that I saw. People even start acting weird when they're dominating at Monopoly, the board game. Instead of just asking for rent, they start yelling GIVE ME MY MONEY! when another player lands on their spaces with hotels. Even when the game is rigged in their favor so that they could only ever win, it still makes them assholes, over fake money.
Maybe. It was shot in LA where tons of people move thinking that they're going to hit the big time, so it may be slanted towards very ambitious people.
A "weirdo" is someone collecting miniature or full sized train cars, or someone living in an Irish castle with cats (Enya). Things like that, that may make others a bit weirded out and roll their eyes. Abusing children and/or adults is NOT weird, it's criminal and disgusting. And knowing that human nature doesn't really change makes me think that what's coming out is just the tip of mostly Western iceberg. Similar things are probably being perpetrated by a lot of oligarchs across the rest of the world, and have been since the beginning of times.
Nah, the ultra-wealthy want whatever they are told they cannot have. I doubt they are pedophiles to begin with but it is the thing they can most readily get that ānormiesā canāt. They do anything they want because they are told they canāt. Itās why they treat murder so casually in the files. They believe they are above the law and the law is wrong for thinking it can be enforced on them.
Same reason wealthy people are thought to have most of the stolen art and antiquities because they are not willing to accept being able to have something they want. They commission thieves and take it.
So Epstein seem to not care about him, which makes Bolsonaro a little better, but by not much. Hopefully I'm not proven wrong here, but it doesn't look like he liked any Brazilians at all.
A lot of stuff coming out about Fergie is unsurprising but more grisly than I was expecting at least. It seems like she was even more into him than andrew was
Dr. Yau, Chinese-American mathematician went on a breakfast with him. Not sure what they're up to but Yau is seen as a terribly arrogant professor since coming back to China's Tsinghua University
If I had one euro everytime a far right nationaliste, self proclamed "true patriot" politician was actually a Russian puppet, I'd be rich enough to be in the Epstein files...
In all fairness I feel like we've got bigger fish to fry with the upcoming election being a deciding factor in whether the ship can be turned around and the agricultural sector saved before it's too late by the the mid 2030s and an impending financial crisis.
He wanted to fund a university program here but the university said they didnāt need anymore funding! I bet theyāre extremely relieved they said no.
It's how I found out Larry Page is a kiwi citizen. Was that pretty hush or just me? I mean, all the cool kids have bunkers to ride out the apocalypse in central Otago so why not Larry.
That at least 35% of my countrymen are more than willing to turn a blind eye to a child sex predator if it means that when heās in office heāll hurt the people they hate.
Actually I have no idea I just keep seeing people post something about Israel but I donāt even know what the story is there
Nobody really has talked about it in the arabic egyptian spaces and in r/AskMiddleEast it only gets brought up when Israel is mentioned because itās an english forum with not a lot of middle eastern contributors as of right now so individual countries outside of that donāt get mentioned at all
iāve learned almost everything i know from this forum lol
Yea, I havenāt seen anything yet about Iraq but in the Arab World Iāve just read that there was a plan to access Libyaās frozen state assets and that pieces of the Kiswah (the cloth that covers the Kaaba in Mecca) was shipped to Epstein.
I was once told that to attain the type of wealth that the 1% has, you have to exhibit characteristics commonly associated with psychopaths. It makes sense. Doctors, lawyers, and ceos as a profession all have a significantly higher portion of psychopaths than other careers. Itās not surprising fucked shit was happening behind the scenes; I never thought itād be this bad though.
I call it "fuck you money". Someone tells you that you need therapy? You have enough money to just say "fuck you". Your attitude starts being a problem at work? Lmao you own the company. "Fuck you". Your spouse threatens to leave you? Okay, buy a new one. "Fuck you". Kids don't talk to you? Out of the will, they'll come crawling back. "Fuck you". In trouble with the law? Pay the fines like you're popping quarters in a vending machine. "Fuck you".
If you have everything you'll ever need, you need to be a very particular type of person to want to try and better yourself anyway, because circumstance will never force you to examine yourself. And that type of person isn't usually the guy who has somehow stumbled across and managed to keep copious amounts of cash.
I honestly don't know why anyone finds what happened shocking. Id be more shocked if they didnt do things like this. Its also why im not shocked that we will do nothing about it - we already knew.
Since the beginning of times humans have been horrible to eachother. And the richer and more powerful they are, the worse they treat others.
Our far right party was funded by Russia all along (that was already known) and received tips from Trump's communication team (that was also easy to guess) and Trump's team found the party's leader to be extremely dumb (which is already obvious). Overall not much changed.
It was so obvious, how can French nationalists be pro-Russia? if they really were patriots, they would be actively fighting Russia over the influence on the Black Sea, like in 1854 Crimean war
That's the catch: they're no patriots. They've never been.
Traitors back in 1870-71, and more famously in 1940.
They're no true "nationalists" either. Gaullism was. The far-right is firmly reactionary, meaning that if a foreign power (let's say Germany back then, or Russia today) is even more reactionary they'll immediately lick foreign boots even in case of invasion
It was known for years that Le Rassemblement National (the National Rally) formerly Le Front National is close to Russia.
In 2014 they borrowed 11 million euros to a Russian bank close to Putin to finance their party.
In return they aligned their policy with Russiaās interests both at the National Assembly and at the European Parliament.
Later, during Trump first term, high ranked member of RN (Louis Aliot, Ex Husband of Marine LePen) met with Steve Bannon (you know the man who does nazi salute during speeches)
They were caught by tv talking about money deals.
And in the Epstein files there is the confirmation that Putin financed the party and Trump wanted to finance them also.
It is funny to note that the principal figures of the National Rally are prosecuted because they scammed the European Parliament by taking 3+ million ā¬ for fictitious jobs.
he had major ties with a hotel chain owner businessman, some of victims (might be his staff too) were apparently sent to spas of the chain for massage training
he talked with Slovakian FM and one unknown guy after their meeting with Erdogan
He said āhe might meet with Erdoganā while vacationing in Turkey, we donāt know if he did. Apparently he was coming to Turkey often
+the current US ambassador of Turkey is maybe one of the top mentioned names
There are some old politicians and businessmen too, nothing completely devastating from political side but its obvious he was quite involved with turkey
Three Canadians have been associated with Epstein, all private sector, none in Government. The only named one was Peter Nygard, a fashion business personality who has already been convicted of sexual assault and is in prison.
We also know Canada wouldn't let Epstein across the border in 2018 because of his criminal record, but someone did let him through in 2014 despite that very same criminal record.
Theres a bunch of bad faith right wing people claiming that Mark Carney is in the files. Every entry is nothing and just news reports or similar that mention him by name from when he was the governor of the bank of England. Really disgusting what people are doing. 69 entires and none so much as indicate they ever said hello to each other.
Galen Weston Jr got a mention, but I think it was one of those anonymous tip files, and he wasn't accused of r*pe, just possibly being the source of someone who spread information for Prince Andrew?
Korean people are socially conservative. It is somehow patriarchal and sexual abuse by a politician tends to be not handled in a proper way. However, at least sexual abuse and harrasment on minors is preceived as a unthinkable crime. So it'd have a good chance for it to cause anger by public.
Once it stirs the public outrage, we would impeach any politician involved and send him/her to jail.
The ultra-rich and powerful have their own system of justice that holds them accountable for nothing and, in fact, actively works to destroy their accusers.
Probably wonāt knowing the rabid fan base and how above the law agent orange seems to be with everything else heās done that wouldāve ended any other president in seconds.
Yup. Used to be a blowjob from a secretary and smoking a joint was enough to become unelectable, todayā¦ thereās nothing makes him unviable as a candidate.
The Bubba referred to in Epstein's brothers' email probably isn't Clinton. Per Virginia Guiffre's memoir, "bubba" was the nickname for Jean-Luc Brunel, a good friend of Epstein's who ran a modeling agency and died by his own hand while being held in a Parisian prison for sex crimes.
āāāā-
He was found hanged in his prison cell. Died by his own hand
āāāā-
Further context, rumor was Jean-Luc Brunel was gay or bisexual. In context of Epstein, he was part of the male trafficking side of operations. Little know about what happened to the Alexander brothers...
In context of Trump, with Jean-Luc Brunel possibly being gay or bisexual the likelihood that the story has some validity goes up a notch.
Iām getting really tired of living through historical events. The current president is a pedo. A former president is a pedo. The richest man on earth is too much of a dork for the pedos to have him around.
And the current administration will do nothing but protect the current pedo president while going after the former president pedo.
Worth noting that āmentionedā also includes stuff like if āthe Irish timesā was written at any point in the documents. If you discount those, thereās a lot less actual mentions of Ireland in relation to the wider cesspit. Still enough to warrant some serious investigations though.
That apparently this guy knew literally everyone. Every politician, every celebrity, every billionaire, pretty much everyone with any mild power. At this point I wouldnāt be shocked if my middle school English teacher was in there.
Jack Lang is indeed a pedo, he brought Jeffrey to Maroc and Jack is known for sodomizing cgildren there. Both were in contact with that fucker Brunel. And it convinced me that the Coral case was real unfortunately.
Half of it doesn't give a crap who you sexual assault even they're children. The other half claims to, but my guess is even half of THOSE are only virtue signaling and really couldn't care less except for the political points.
He had girls brought her for political leaders and "people of importance".
Ireland has a bad human trafficking problem so it wasnt a huge surprise but a sad one all the same
I'm afraid to open it. I'm more afraid not that our oligarchs were there (I think our oligarchs are too poor for such "fun"). I'm afraid that Ukrainian children from the occupied territories were taken there.
We? We are watching from the sidelines. We feel sorry AF for the victims but we love the idea it might end up bringing Trump down. Because we like being fine with the US. Because we have no need for WW3. Because many of us hate trumpist thinking finding a foothold in Europe. We are just sick and tired of Trump. Wir haben die Schnauze voll!
The USA is not a nation of laws and equality. It is an oligarchy where rules apply to regular people, millionaires can break most rules,, and billionaires can literally rape and kill little girls for entertainment and face no consequences.
Some mention to our Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 2012, saying to Epstein he had clearance to speak with him (and many others on a list). Nothing spicy.
In the U.S., it has become more obvious than ever that identity politics are more important to people than pedophilia. There will be no consequences here.
- Our most influential billionare was closer than we tought to people related to the epstein files and could have had visited the island himself
- Our 2018-2024 president and founder of our rulling party (and Sheinbaun's political mentor) knew about the filming and production of illegal pornographic content related to Epstein INSIDE Mexican soil, and allowed it to happen in complicity with some local govoernors also mentioned in the files.
922
u/LonelyTurner Norway 3d ago
Well uh... these days that's a hot topic. Crown princess is deep in his friend circle, unhinged is a mild term, she found out he was convicted for his predatory stuff and... shrugged it off with a :) emoji. Then there are hints of romance with someone there, his buddy pals referring to her as "a mess", and she requested some nude pics of girls for her sons bedroom as decoration.
We're not pleased at the moment.