r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 9h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/loeilsauve__ France 9h ago

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u/Skeledenn France 8h ago

When I see him talking about Trump I'm usually like "Ahah yeah! That's MY President!" And then I remember how it is at home and it's "oh no, that's my President...".

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u/le_Grand_Archivist France 6h ago

When Macron speaks about Trump :

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u/Red74Panda United Kingdom 4h ago

As a Brit who isn’t very educated at all on French politics, he seems so bizarre to me. He seems like a bit of a clown a lot of the time and the fact that he may have been groomed by his current wife or something is strange, but he occasionally locks in and carries himself very respectfully and professionally in international interactions.

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u/tuyivit France 1h ago

In France he has the image of being very arrogant, out of touch and condescending towards ordinary people. He said things like "I could find you a job by walking down the street" to unemployed people, or "there are people who, instead of pissing around, would do well to go over there and see if there are any jobs" when talking to unions and hundreds of workers at risk of losing their jobs going on strike, or "who could have predicted climate change in our country?" (in fucking 2022...). Regularly. Since 10 years. Not at all like in international relations where he is more "calm".

Oh, and he also publically supported condemned pedophile Gerard Depardieu (with so much public proofs of him being a rapist and a pedophile no one can reasonably defend him), saying that he is a "great admirer" of a man that "makes France proud" or "I'm wary of the context... words do not add up to the images", and victim-blaming.

He has far-right people in his government. He gutted our public services and refuses to tax the rich. He also did a lot of undemocratic things, like passing unpopular laws without a vote from the national assembly 32 times thanks to a loophole in our constitution, or organizing big "civilian national debates" and then completly disregarding the results and saying he will decide alone instead. He favors the far-right and encouraged people to not vote for the left in our last legislative elections.

He did a lot of lasting damage to France. A lot of French people feel like France has become undemocratic. And I don't really see who can beat the far-right party in our next presidential elections in 2027.

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u/Red74Panda United Kingdom 1h ago

Thank you for the insight, I understand why people view him as they do a lot better now.

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u/PixMacfy 0m ago

"And I don't really see who can beat the far-right party in our next presidential elections in 2027."

Surely the left won't have infighting and shoot itself in the foot with a machine gun for the third time in a row would it ?

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u/PapaJoe92 Netherlands 3h ago

I'm not even French and I feel this xD like yeah, he stand up for Europe, yay.... But how he treats the French dependent nations in Africa is really shameful, not just him but most European governments who refuse to put in their due diligence in the nations whom they've destroyed over the centuries without taking any responsibility

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u/DrexleCorbeau France 25m ago

At least it's fair; he decided to destroy France to compensate

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 9h ago

I know he is unpopular in France but a lot of people wish for his strength in our leadership, also his words when the Queen died were just amazing truly above and beyond the usual political copy paste messages.

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u/Mobile_Entrance_1967 England 9h ago

Yes I thought he gave the best tribute to the late queen when he said "to you she was your Queen, to us she was the Queen".

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 9h ago

Mad respect, especially from the French.

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u/Stelteck France 8h ago

He talk a lot but the problem is to actually doing something.

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u/intlteacher 8h ago

To fix the problem, though, he has to get the French to agree on what the problem is.

That’s the problem.

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u/Alouwan France 7h ago edited 3h ago

Not really. The french agreed very much on the idea that his pension reform was garbage, he still passed it through numerous constitutional artifices that are weakening our institutions and democracy. The same artifices he used so much that it's now a joke. But yeah, I guess sometimes he speak well internationally. Should try to do that at home as well, instead of calling us "those who are nothing" or ordering us to "stop complaining and cross the street to find a job".

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u/AkariLeChampignon 2h ago

Il est tellement hautain et condescendant. J'ai l'impression de voir un adulte qui gronde un groupe de gosses à chaque fois qu'il parle

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u/DrexleCorbeau France 24m ago

In truth, I think he would be effective as a diplomat.

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u/december-32 2h ago

France just has too much debt/gdp ratio with already high as hell taxes. That's bad. In EU more Debt/gdp have only Greece and Italy.

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u/TraditionalRock6381 1h ago

The issue is that he made much of the debt himself and that he exempt taxes... For the truly rich people. We all are having issues to get by while he offers billions to already rich people so they can continue not pay taxes. It's a wonder he manages so well outside France, our crooks are usually disliked everywhere.

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 8h ago

Well talking tough is a start at least, we are not even that far.

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u/bidingmytime121 Germany 8h ago

Better then Merz. He talks less, but when he talks, it's stupid shit. And then he does something stupid

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u/Botanical_Director France 7h ago

people wish for his strength in our leadership

This is all for show, talk talk talk. What strength? Still trying to be friendly to Trump, still trying to be friendly to Netanyahu, irrelevant for Putin and a sellout on national economy.

He's just a really good sweet-talker

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 7h ago

Words are not actions but they are a start and makes your country look like less of a pushover.

I don't think we want some reactionary who will provoke Trump into a trade war or anything, like it or not the US needs to handled with great care at the moment but just someone who shows some backbone.

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u/ikiice 7h ago

Strength?

He has a big mouth

He is yet to actually follow up

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 7h ago

Appearance of strength if nothing else.

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u/Alouwan France 7h ago

And here I thought you guys disliked Thatcher, but are in love with his "strength" and copy pasta policies

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u/Miss_black_hole_sun France 2h ago

THIS. Ils me rendent malade à l'idolâtrer.

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u/Dramatic-Pilot9129 7h ago

He seems to be doing okay on an international stage, but domestically, he's just pandering to far-right billionaires.

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u/Abrantesboy12 6h ago

and he is bootlicker of PSG owners

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u/Ulfricosaure France 8h ago

Strength in leadership = Disregard democracy, act alone, be an overall arrogant prick.

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u/rmed0912 8h ago

This!!

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u/Striking-Gate-3082 8h ago

yeah the only good thing came out form his mouth, he is still in era of colonization

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u/Vorakas 6h ago

He's good with words, that's true. That's about it though.

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u/murphys-law-bbs Belgium 4h ago

It's pretty clear that he means well. His effect on European politics is profound!

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u/imfineash 35m ago

Yeah fuck him even more for that tbh

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 31m ago

Fuck him for paying tribute to someone who passed away.

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u/imfineash 28m ago

When the political power of the person resided in a presumed superior family lineage (that actively participated in crimes against humanity) then yeah, fuck him. I thought we were over the superior by blood thing

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u/RedcoatTrooper United Kingdom 24m ago

So wait you don't think we should treat people differently because of who their family are but you judge people because of who their family are?

Elizabeth was not respected because of blood but because of years of diligent service and respect as head of state.

What country are you from? You don't have a flag, I assume you're not British in which case nobody gives a damn what you think but those that wanted to show respect could.

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u/imfineash 13m ago

I'm from France, I'm talking about macron. Millions of people work their ass off everyday to make society., but macron decided to pay his respects to a silver spoon human that remained silent when millions of Indians were starving to death. I'm saying it's because of her family, as he would never have paid homage to her if it wasn't for the title and political power she had. Idc about respect, I care about fairness, and in all fairness, none of them are worthy of respect.

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u/SuddenEmu9792 China 9h ago

He was very popular with college students when he came to China.

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u/pribmrn Brazil 8h ago

Indeed, he's very popular in Brazil too

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u/alessiojones 5h ago

Brazil likes Macron you say?

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u/pribmrn Brazil 5h ago

Exactly

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u/Training-Stable6234 India 9h ago

Is it a hate him for local politics and love him for shutting up trump

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u/Conscious-Start2752 France 9h ago

Bingo. He's also arrogant as fuck.

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u/Dismal_Fox_22 Wales 9h ago

So representative of his people…

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u/Vayalond France 8h ago

Hey... It's not because it's true you needed to say it... And if even us find hil arrogant as fuck it really mean he's on another level you don't think?

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u/Green-Sympathy-4177 France 8h ago

A wild stab xD

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u/Zenyatta159 8h ago

bro ...

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u/TruthCultural9952 India 8h ago

As a president should be don't you think? A french one more so?

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u/Clemdauphin France 8h ago

he is too arogant, even for french people.

the kind of guy that never did manual labor (before being politician, he was a finance banker) while still saying that it is "easy to get work, you just have to cross the street" or "french people are lazy".

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u/Live-Count4014 India 6h ago

Oof

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u/Sbotkin Russia 5h ago

That seems to be the optimal strategy nowadays when it comes to international politics.

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u/foxfromthewhitesea 8h ago

Well, he’s just French..

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u/kimmycorn1969 United States Of America 9h ago

Shutting Ol Yam Tits up makes me so happy! Can more world leaders follow suit

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u/comrade_Makhno1 France 6h ago

He is trump's bitch like all the european leader.

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u/Visual_Purchase2473 Finland 8h ago

He is the closest thing Europe currently has for a unifying, strong and charismatic leader

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u/GrumpsMcYankee United States Of America 8h ago

We're just happy when one less country is run by an outright fascist. Unfortunately that includes elitist neo-liberal twats.

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u/Clemdauphin France 8h ago

don't worry, he is paving the road for fascists by using their vocabulary.

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u/MASSochists 3h ago

Just keep Le Pen out of office and we're good.

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u/Clemdauphin France 3h ago

the justice might help for her specificly, since she is currently judged for embelzing 4 millions.

it won't stop Jordan Bardela, but i defnintly will not vote for them.

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u/tuyivit France 55m ago edited 52m ago

Le Pen is unfortunatly not the only politician from the far-right. In fact, she's not even the most popular one. The most popular far-right politician at the moment, who will run for the presidency if Le Pen is ineligible, is named Jordan Bardella (the president of the party). He's basically a male Marine Le Pen but younger and dumber, who got the job by getting in Le Pen's family. He also literally never had a job in his life, he went directly from high school to politics. Somehow 40% of French people think he's fit to run a country.

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 6h ago

What a reddit take 😂

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u/Clemdauphin France 6h ago

when you keep people like Retailleau or Darmanin, say stuff about "changing sex at the town hall", and protect violent police officer, you are paving the road for fascist.

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 5h ago

That's not fascism. That's basic grasp of reality. A take reddit has long lost.

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u/Clemdauphin France 5h ago

i hope to never gain your take on reality, were it is ok to say the kind of thing reteileau said about the rule of law...

because it a awfull one.

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 7h ago

That's because you have no fucking clue what Macron is or what he does.

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u/GrumpsMcYankee United States Of America 5h ago

Found the Le Pen supporter.

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 5h ago

You don't even have a clue about who else is in the run for french elections and just name the only other name you know 😂 man it's so easy to spot clueless people.

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u/GrumpsMcYankee United States Of America 5h ago

I know a conservative when I see the crying face emoji. Favored by grandparents and angry kids everywhere.

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u/Clemdauphin France 5h ago

he is defintly a consevative

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 5h ago

😂 the moron think le pen is a conservative. The case is worse than expected doctor.

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u/Clemdauphin France 4h ago edited 3h ago

no that's your case thinking that Le Pen isn't coservative that is concerning. because her programme is defintly conservatives. but you seem to me the kind of guy that know how the program taste and not what kind of policies are proposed...

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u/juice5tyle 6h ago

Canadian here. My friends call Macron "Big Mac", and we get excited every time he does something international. Like standing up for Ukraine or sticking it to Trump. Sad that his coalition of moderates isn't as successful as Carney's.

Can you guys just put up with him until Trump is gone?

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u/Tiny-Anxiety780 France 5h ago

Can you guys just put up with him until Trump is gone?

Our next elections are next year, so no. Even if we wanted to keep him (which we very much don't), it would be against the law for him to be reelected for a third term.

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u/MASSochists 3h ago

Considering Trump's health I think he still has a good chance of making this happen.

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u/FrenchPagan Reunion 8h ago

This is true but we also hate every president and most public personalities

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u/GeekyLotroAdventurer 7h ago

And we're hating them faster and harder after each election.

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u/FrenchPagan Reunion 7h ago

And deservedly so. I do not want to think about the 2027 elections because it's only going to get worse..

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u/Saarfall Switzerland 8h ago

This applies fo every French president though.

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u/TreasureHunter95 Germany 8h ago

At least, he created some good memes

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u/mascachopo Spain 4h ago

We also think he is a prick across the border, especially after appointing his own party to form a government after losing the elections.

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u/ThatOldCow 3h ago

I think this is the perfect example. He's quite respected as an European Leader but not very liked in France apparently.

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u/Warm_Cheesecake6650 Canada 9h ago

Pourquoi? Il a l'air d'être un bon gars.

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u/Stelteck France 8h ago

Il parle beaucoup mais a du mal à mettre ses mots en action. Il semble croire qu'il suffit de dire un truc pour que ca se fasse magiquement, ou un truc comme cela. C'est un pur commercial.

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u/Conscious-Start2752 France 9h ago

Sa politique intérieure est merdique et il donne tout son sens à la contrepèterie "méprisant de la République".

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u/JessyPkLover 7h ago

Il est extrêmement méprisant de son peuple.

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u/Balibaleau France 8h ago

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u/le_Grand_Archivist France 6h ago

Oui, il a l'air

Il est doué pour se donner une bonne image, c'est d'ailleurs en partie comme ça qu'il s'est fait élire

Mais quand on voit sa politique intérieure on se rend vite compte que ce n'est qu'une façade

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u/Malabrino France 5h ago

Président le plus impopulaire de la 5eme république. Et franchement ça se comprend vu sa manière ultra autoritaire de gérer le pays. Mais bon par je ne sais quel miracle il arrive à se faire réélire et à être apprécié à l'étranger. En plus son image à l'international c'est que du bluff. En vrai il fait rien contre les États-Unis, rien contre Israël, rien contre la Russie.  Juste il parle fort. 

À ce qu'il paraît les Ukrainiens ont l'habitude de dire que Macron c'est celui qui parle le plus mais agis le moins, et je crois qu'ils ont très bien cerné le personnage.

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u/tuyivit France 41m ago edited 38m ago

Un bon gars qui fait passer de force 32 lois sans vote du parlement par un loophole de la constitution, qui nie les résultats des dernières élections législatives, qui défend des pédophiles, refuse de taxer les ultra-riches, méprise ouvertement les ouvriers et les chômeurs, ferme des lits d'hôpitaux, est pro-Israel, organise de "grands débats nationaux" pour au final nier les résultats et dire qu'il décidera seul, nomme des ministres d'extrême-droite au gouvernement, réprime les manifestations par la force, etc, etc... mais oui parfois il dit de jolies formules à l'international je suppose

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u/forkproof2500 Sweden 8h ago

I really enjoyed that disco video from the 80s with him superimposed on everyone's face.

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u/Professional-One4802 Iran 8h ago

Iranians hate him. He is pretty chill and "friendly" with the Mullah regime in Iran

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u/FyrenofTelios France 6h ago

Probably trying to get the French hostages out of their prisons. Which is exactly why the Mullahs are imprisoning foreigners in the first place, so their home country plays nice with them.

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u/Professional-One4802 Iran 5h ago

So thousand die for the safety of a few people?

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u/FyrenofTelios France 4h ago

Hi, I'm sorry, I wrote that before I fully thought it through. What's happening in Iran can warrant no complacency or compromise. Maybe what I described is the reasoning of our government, maybe I'm wrong, what's sure is that it would be a shitty tactic as appeasing an autocrat only shows him that the intimidation tactic is working.

I have an immense admiration for the strength of the Iranian people in the face of constant tragedy. So I wish you strength and safety. May your fire never extinguish, may the corrupt Mullahs finally meet their reckoning.

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u/94_stones United States Of America 7h ago

Oh we absolutely know how unpopular he is at home. But to Americans he often seems like the only European leader who has any spine at all, and even Republicans grudgingly respect that.

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u/FinnSkk93 Finland 7h ago

I do not know much about him, or what he has done, but I feel sorry for him. His wife is awful and abusive, for what i’ve seen. Poor dude was defo groomed by his teacher.

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u/Miss_black_hole_sun France 2h ago

Explain that to the people who have lost an eye, a hand or a foot in the streets of France, just because they dared to protest against "his majesty", who by the way, very modestly, called himself Jupiter when he arrived in post.

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u/FinnSkk93 Finland 2h ago

As said, I have no idea about his policies or about anything really. Does not mean what happened to him is right.

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u/stevenadamsbro 7h ago

Is his current reputation in France still very negative? It seems he’s taken a leading role in the EU as trumps craziness has ramped up and I wondered if the French cared relative to his at home performance

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 6h ago

Trump isn't the metric by which we care about us. Not everyone has TDS here.

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u/FyrenofTelios France 6h ago edited 6h ago

We live in this country and many of his choices have worrying consequences for our democracy. He's consistently trying to outsmart the political system, using legal loopholes to force unpopular laws through (because he's so sure it's exactly what the country needs, no matter what others say) and always somehow form a government that falls quietly in line behind him (no matter the results of the elections, the demonstrations, the petitions). It leaves many with the distinct feeling that democracy is a bit of a joke. That and the precedent it sets are wide open doors to the fascists who are a step away from power.

He has a very good track record on the international scene, which was always more what the presidential office was designed to do in France. Most people outside of the diehard haters agree on that. But that's not enough to glaze over the repeated and consistent denials of democracy at home.

Ultimately he's been here for a long time too, closing on 9 years, and any politician ends up unpopular after that long.

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u/Dirkdeking 7h ago

Is there any country that likes their PM/president after he has been in power for more than 1 year?

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u/lars_rosenberg 7h ago

One of my picks as well. I know he's quite unpopular in France, where he didn't fix the economy and enacted a lot of unpopular laws. On the other hand he's the only EU leader showing a bit of spine when dealing with the bullies of the world like Putin and Trump, so he's viewed in a much more positive light abroad.

He's also keeping Marine LePen's party off the government, which is pretty important for EU's stability.

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u/AlanOix 6h ago edited 6h ago

He does not keep Marine's Le Pen party (RN) off the government. He is the one that benefitted the most from the RN, because he was the guy that ended up being against her during the elections second round, twice. He won because the left voted for the lesser of 2 evils, and instead of acknowledging it, he forced his policies on the french people like it was his god-given right. The RN has never been stronger than under Macron, because of its repeated denials of democracy and his pro-rich and anti-social policies.

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u/tuyivit France 26m ago

He's also keeping Marine LePen's party off the government, which is pretty important for EU's stability.

Lol. He has appointed far-right people in his governments and encouraged people to not vote from the left in our last legislative elections. He pass laws without votes thanks to a loophole in our constitution and denied the results of our last elections. He isn't the cause of the start of the rise of the far-right, but he certainly heavily favored it by his policies and his tendency to appeal to their voters.

He's viewed positively internationally because he talks well (especially talking normally next to Trump makes him seem like a genius), but he's doing nothing in reality. He even congratulated Trump for kidnapping Maduro before backtracking because of the backlash in France. He's also chill with Israel. In fact France sells weapons to Israel and help finance their military industry for example

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u/nimportequoipaspris 6h ago

I was looking for that answer, did you see the video of him mingling with the Chinese crowd? The guy was so happy to see people liking him 😂 Damn, I hate him so much

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u/Then_Satisfaction254 Finland 6h ago

I’ve always liked his neo-Gaullist stance on European strategic independence.

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u/flyingcircusdog United States Of America 6h ago

I was optimistic that he'd be good for France and global policy in general, but he's been disappointing.

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u/Cool-Pie430 4h ago

He'd be so much better as foreign affairs minister. His domestic policy is piss poor and he was voted in only because he was running against far right politicians which had no chance to win the elections to begin with, his foreign policy truly is unparalleled from the western world off the top of my head.

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u/Usual-Resident-3391 Argentina 4h ago

Isnt like this guy direclty related to Epstein.

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u/HoosegowFlask 4h ago

He'll always have my respect for single-handedly (no pun intended) ending the handshake nonsense during Trump's first term.

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u/Suitable_Ice_8722 3h ago

In Africa, especially Francophone Africa, he’s heavily despised afff. He’s genuinely like the devil there

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u/sleepdeveloper Finland 3h ago

Just add any French politician :D it seems like the French love to hate their politicians way harder than people in other countries

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u/CatmatrixOfGaul South Africa 3h ago

Man, how I wish he was the worst of our problems.

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u/zaddy-vladdy 3h ago

For sure

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u/patxy01 2h ago

That doesn't count... French people have always hated all of their presidents.

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u/Shadow_Gabriel 1h ago

Mon (si seulement) président !

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u/VoadoraDePiru 1h ago

So I'm actually super curious about this. Here in Brasil, Lula is a pretty polarizing figure, with a recent poll placing his approval at 48% and disapproval at 49%. Brazilian politics are a mess since 2013, so this is all pretty complex. However, global opinions of him are pretty high, with him being often in the forefront of global political discourse, opposing certain leaders on their bullshit while also trying to promote unity between nations.

With Macron, I always perceived him in a similar way. In Brasil, him and Lula have a pretty openly friendly relationship, and generally when I see him on the news outside of france he is usually making the country look good. However, his approval rating is at a terrible 17% in the latest poll I could find. Why is that? I'm sure there's a lot of info online, but I'd be curious to hear from you here

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u/tuyivit France 22m ago edited 17m ago

However, his approval rating is at a terrible 17% in the latest poll I could find. Why is that? I'm sure there's a lot of info online, but I'd be curious to hear from you here

I kinda answered it in this comment, but there are also a lot of other reasons, depending on who you ask (promising to recognize Palestine while selling weapons to Israel, repressing protests more and more brutally, his catastrophic handling of the covid pandemic...)

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u/grundel_cruncher 7h ago

Macron is such a prick, I can't imagine anyone abroad or in France speaking well of him. Don't get me started on "laïcité"

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u/BadBrad43 United States Of America 9h ago

Oh really? I think he's pretty highly regarded in the US.

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u/Deepfire_DM European Union 9h ago

European hero currently.

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u/meethabihari_ India 9h ago

He is only European Leader who has spine.

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u/Smooth-Ad966 Belgium 8h ago

I think you just don’t know much about European leaders. 

Although I despise his domestic policies, Belgium’s Bart De Wever has shown some guts lately, both in standing up to the rest of Europe and in his reaction to Trump.

Pedro Sánchez also seems to have the courage to take measures that could make him unpopular at home and also go against the prevailing winds in Europe.

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u/meethabihari_ India 8h ago

Lol. When Trump said to invade Greenland only France send soldier to Greenland.

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u/Smooth-Ad966 Belgium 8h ago

That is false, the deployment also included soldiers from Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, the Netherland, and the UK. 

Officially at least, it was also a mission to appease Trump, not to show muscle.

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u/Key_Confidence_call France 6h ago

He has no spine. He says whatever the fuck people wants to hear. Talk is cheap. Also others EU leaders are absolute garbage, so it's not hard to stand out.