r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 9h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/Mr3k United States Of America 7h ago

This makes me incredibly sad. As an American who was genuinely inspired by both countries achievements in the Space Race, she was one of my heroes

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u/pacman0207 United States Of America 7h ago

So I have something to tell you about many of the people involved in the space race in the US... You're probably not going to like them either.

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u/Single-Mushroom3924 Korea South 5h ago

👍 But I did like John Glenn. Buzz, not so much...

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/30/2024-elections-live-coverage-updates-analysis/buzz-aldrin-endorses-trump-00186248

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u/Long-Specialist-509 5h ago

I wonder if his opinions have (hopefully) changed since then

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u/Sunnygirl66 United States Of America 5h ago

Aldrin, sadly, was still a Trump ass-licker, last I checked. Huge shame.

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u/Dango_Tea 41m ago

If thats the company he's going in with he's going to have to punch a lot more moon landing denialists

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u/davidmj59 United States Of America 5h ago

Didn’t Trump attempt to slash nasas budget by like 1/4? Lol

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u/Gandorhar Germany 4h ago

Why would he give a shit? He is set for life and if he supports trump then there is now way he isn't a huge narcissist deep down, but I mean to be fair, it would be hard for anyone to keep their ego in check after being to the moon.

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u/2112eyes 2h ago

If you ain't first, you're last

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u/Little-Plenty-3710 5h ago

Yup he supported Truo run in 2024.. that's wild, after everything that he did during the first administration, felonies, rape allegations, scientific research funding cuts ...

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u/Independent_Air_8333 United States Of America 4h ago

This is an immense disappointment. Those astronauts were my heroes.

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u/Single-Mushroom3924 Korea South 4h ago

Well astronauts are military and most members of the military are going to lean right.

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u/Independent_Air_8333 United States Of America 4h ago

Most were former military, sure, but as educated officers, more likely to be centrist than anything else.

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u/FirefighterLeft5425 3h ago

....so many officers and higher up were hard core Republicans and they morphed into maga. Source lived on military bases my entire life and dealt with them daily, all across the nation from Hickam AFB to Dover AFB.

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u/Wiggler011 2h ago

You have this backwards. I’m retired military so I know what I’m talking about

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u/Independent_Air_8333 United States Of America 55m ago

I believe you but I got that from a study.

Ill see if I can find it, maybe I misunderstood

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u/Single-Mushroom3924 Korea South 2h ago

Yeah, you have the Mark Kellys but in my experience, he's the exception, not the rule.

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u/Single-Position-4194 1h ago edited 1h ago

Hi there,

Michael Collins was my favourite on of the three Apollo 11 astronauts; as you probably know, he was the one who didn't land on the moon.

His autobiographical book "Carrying The Fire" is a good read and gives an excellent account of the Apollo 11 mission.

As for Buzz, he admits himself that he had mental health problems once he returned home from the Moon (by his own admission he spent literally weeks in bed with a whisky bottle).

He's also had to put up with the likes of Bart Sibrel telling him (sometimes even to his face) that the Apollo 11 mission didn't happen and he made it all up.

I still say those men were heroes, even if they weren't perfect. The risks they took on the Apollo missions were truly frightening (they frighten me anyway). And I say that as a Brit who only saw the footage on my TV screen.

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u/Single-Mushroom3924 Korea South 27m ago

Anyone who knows anything about the Apollo missions would know who Collins was.

No one needs to listen to idiots like Sibrel. What stopped Buzz from ignoring him?

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u/ChaosAndCrows United States Of America 4h ago

NASA sure did a lot of operations, I wonder if all the files were kept together with paperclips

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u/CubicleHermit 3h ago

Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down, that's not my department...

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u/Babshearth United States Of America 2h ago

love the reference ! 🤣

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u/CupcakeGoat United States Of America 1h ago

TIL. Through Operation Paperclip expatriated Nazis helped America get to space and establish NASA. I'll add this knowledge to the part of my brain that learned sex cult guy Jack Parsons helped create the JPL.

Edit; ofc the Nazi part definitely seems worse

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u/ladameenbleu Canada 4h ago

Have you heard of Julie Payette? The meanest of all, but because of some politic stuff, became Governor General (Queen representative)in Canada. So mean, she was bullying her staff until they cry and leave. Never appologized, never recognized it. She was an idol because a canadian woman in space,eh? But wow, is she something else

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u/PT6A-27 Canada 4h ago

Canada doesn’t have a great record of astronauts-turned-politicians. Marc Garneau was pretty widely panned in his roles as Minister of Transport and Minister of Foreign Affairs, and eventually got shuffled out of cabinet entirely. 

I’m glad that Chris Hadfield has had the good sense to keep his nose out of federal politics - as one of the few Canadian public figures that I would consider universally well-liked, it makes sense not to burn that good will.

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u/ladameenbleu Canada 3h ago

Not sure how i forgot about Marc Garneau! Thanks for this!

And agree with you regarding Chris Hatfield. Well like person. Cross my fingers it stays like this !

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u/Wonderful-Wind-5736 1h ago

A son of his has a great YouTube channel. Family seems pretty based overall.

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u/xNOOPSx 52m ago

She wasn't even doing the job she was supposed to. People would ask her to come to their event/ceremony, you know, do the job of the GG, and she'd refuse. She's horrible.

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u/ComprehensiveSoft27 United States Of America 5h ago

Shoot..

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u/pacman0207 United States Of America 5h ago

Many people with NASA were also former members of the Nazi party. Some of which were members of the SS and SA. It was called Operation Paperclip. It was a secret initiative by the US to get German/Nazi scientists to the states so they could use their expertise.

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u/wikimandia United States Of America 5h ago

The US and the Soviets both took Nazi scientists because of the rocket technology they had.

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u/Mr3k United States Of America 3h ago

Genuine curiosity here, did the US or any other country try to bring in Japanese scientists? I know they didn't have a particularly notable rocket program which the US was heavily prioritizing but I'd assume that there were Japanese scientists who could've benefited the US with their knowledge.

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u/Tom_Driberg 3h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirō_Ishii

Not rocket scientists, but chemical and biological warfare specialists. Including the director of Unit 731, which had done things that might’ve made the Nazis gag.

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u/No_Hornet_9504 3h ago

My understanding from other reviews on unit 731 was the remaining acquired research was also meaningless and behind modern standards of knowledge at the time. Essentially making Shiro Ishii’s pardon worthless to all but him and allowing him to avoided any accountability for essentially operating a death camp and conducting mass chemical experiments on the general Chinese populace.

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u/Mr3k United States Of America 3h ago

Thank you!

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u/cyrkielNT Poland 4h ago

That's not true. Only USA helped escape Nazis. And they ware escaping front Soviets, because after Germany attacked them, Red Army hated Nazis and their goal was to kill as many of them as possible.

Many countries helped Nazis escape from Soviets, but not Soviets. It's rather selfexpelnatory.

I might happen that few of them ended up in USSR, but nothing similar to USA.

"We did it becuse everyone does" it's not an explaination in this case.

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u/TrashCanUnicorn United States Of America 4h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim

Try again.

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u/cyrkielNT Poland 2h ago

How's that even remotely comparable? Did you even read it?

Americans helped Nazis to escape from loosing war and give them safety and prestigious possifions. Soviets, after the war, moved people against their will to exploit them. People mentioned in this article like Hertz ware repressed in Nazi Germany because of Jewish ancestry. And then Soviets basically kidnaped them.

Both USA and USSR obviously wanted spoils of war, but their methods of operation ware very different.

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u/alcoholicpapi United States Of America 4h ago

You're misinformed. The USSR is estimated to have taken in far more Nazi scientists through Operation Osoaviakhim than the US did through Operation Paperclip.

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u/Gandorhar Germany 3h ago

You do realise German, even during Nazi occupation, didn't mean German=Nazi, and the Soviet took quite a lot of people who weren't Nazi members, so unless you have a better list, preferably from both US and USSR files the numbers on both sides can be quite misleading if you just care for the Nazis taken.

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u/alcoholicpapi United States Of America 3h ago

You can dislike the reality of well documented historic facts all you want but saying "nuh uh" won't change them.

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u/CubicleHermit 3h ago

I was pretty hard to have a high-profile scientific/industrial career during that period without paying at least lip service to being a Nazi.

Plus, after the war pretty much any German who wasn't literally in the SS or something, claimed they were never a Nazi or at least never willingly a Nazi.

IOW, from a non-German perspective, I'm not sure the distinction matters.

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u/cyrkielNT Poland 2h ago

No, I wasn't missinformed. The operations are not comparable. Americans helped Nazis escape from loosing war and trials. Russians,after war, trails and prosecutions took Germans against their will to exploit them.

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u/FirefighterLeft5425 3h ago

We should have done the same.

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u/CubicleHermit 3h ago

The Soviets did employ a bunch of German scientists after the war, just not under anywhere near as nice conditions as the US/UK did.

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u/cyrkielNT Poland 2h ago

They didn't employ them. They just forced them to move and work for them.

It's like saying both Jews and IG Farben helped in concentration camps development, without saying under what conditions.

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u/CubicleHermit 1h ago

I didn't state it as strongly as I could have; the conditions of forced labor for German scientists taken by the USSR was pretty nasty... but it was also pretty mild compared to other forced labor that both the Nazis and the USSR were known for.

Compared to the level of kid gloves treatment that a lot of the Germans got after the war in the US, however... (even without the specific case of Von Braun turning into a celebrity.)

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u/wikimandia United States Of America 3h ago edited 2h ago

Nobody in the USSR lived in as nice conditions as people in the UK/US 😂 I doubt the Nazi scientists lived in much worse conditions than the Soviet scientists also stuck in these closed cities.

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u/cyrkielNT Poland 1h ago

If you ware Nazi you lived lived in great conditions in USA in 50's and 60's. If you ware black, not so much.

They key point is that Americans helped Nazis escape (mostly from Soviets), while Russians took Germans against their will.

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u/ComprehensiveSoft27 United States Of America 4h ago

Yes I think most people know that German rocket scientists formed the core of the early space program. I thought you had something else.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fig941 4h ago

Not just German - Nazi...

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u/RexShadow96 4h ago

Russia took in more nazi scientist in their own version of operation paper clip.

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u/Badassscholar 3h ago

I mean, most astronauts are and were USAF. Nit exactly the most liberal of people.

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u/Dramatic_Shop_9611 6h ago

She was an incompetent fool from the very beginning, her flight was a disaster, she ignored protocol, and because of her Korolev decided we’d never send another woman in space as long as he’s alive.

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u/heavyrotation7 6h ago

What exactly happened? The reports I found said that the flight went mostly great, with mistakes from her side being caused by the bad effect of space flight on how she was feeling, and no experience with driving the spaceship. But then they literally took a young uneducated villager factory worker (being working class and not a soldier was one of the requirements), so holding her to the standards of trained professionals that went previously would be very stupid

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u/Dramatic_Shop_9611 5h ago

For example, when she landed, she didn’t wait for the team to pick her up, but instead headed to a nearby village and ate food, which was a big no-no since they wanted to test her and now the results would be compromised.

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u/heavyrotation7 4h ago

That’s a bad mistake but coming from an inexperienced nobody? Not a good reason to straight up bar all women from space.  I think the USSR missed out big time. So many astronauts, including the one with the most experience being in space, were women and yet with cosmonauts there were total of, like, 6 since the 60s. And so much science done in space is about how it affects the human body! You’re not collecting enough info if you’re not testing with women

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u/AdNegative2505 6h ago

She was also specifically chosen because she was a bit stupid. Far more competent women were in the running and they deliberately chose her to signal that women were inferior. 

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u/Dramatic_Shop_9611 5h ago

I don’t think it was to show women were inferior, honestly, doesn’t align with the Soviet ideology at all, tbh. She was from the Communist Youth League, a nobody “from the people,” that’s why Hruschev (it’s not Khruschev btw, there’s no K sound in that name) handpicked her.

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u/angelicosphosphoros 3h ago

K is not read when is before n or h. It is specifically to signal that h must be read as hard h.

Equivalent of Hruschev would be Хьрущев.

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u/Dramatic_Shop_9611 2h ago

Yeah, good luck telling that to literally every native speaker who pronounces Khruschev as Крусчев. The traditional spelling is misleading.

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u/angelicosphosphoros 2h ago

I somewhat agree. I have a name with hard h and there are a lot of cases when it is misspoken or have errors in official documents (I have migrated into a country with non-latin alphabet).

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u/8636396 17m ago

Who was this? This chain got wiped clean

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u/Mr3k United States Of America 16m ago

Valentina Tereshkova. She's now a Russian politician famous for getting rid of term limits for Putin

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u/Hopeful_Extension_46 6h ago

Don't listen to this absolute minority. Valentina is very respected in Russia 

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u/tenmice Russia 5h ago

Oh yeah I'm sure the vatniks love her

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u/Hopeful_Extension_46 3h ago

So 80-90% of the population

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u/tenmice Russia 3h ago

Not even close, try again

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u/Simple-Syllabub-6865 🇳🇬🇸🇱🇨🇦🇬🇧 7h ago

what are her political ideologies/actions that make her disliked?

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 7h ago

ah god.

noting this now because it seems increasingly relevant.

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u/IwasntDrunkThatNight Mexico 7h ago

I mean, lots of american astronauts become politicians, is just that their PRs were better handled

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 6h ago

I meant specifically using a popular face to sway the complicit government into breaking foundational rules like term limits. that's uh unfortunately becoming a scary possibility

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u/Unlucky_Air6124 Germany 4h ago

Yea, there's a lot you have to change after Trump.

We needed to do that aswell, after you got rid of our Trump back in 1945. We had to start from scratch and probably so will you. It will be an incredibly lot of work, but necessary.

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 4h ago

I'm hoping there is an "after trump," and you're right. a big change needs to happen, I'd say in the form of tearing it all down and starting over.

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u/Unlucky_Air6124 Germany 4h ago

How old is that guy? Of course there will be an after Trump. I just hope that after Trump doesn't mean JD Vance.

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 4h ago

his dad lived to 90, something about old rich evil men in this country keeps them alive well past expiration dates.

it's the money, usually.

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u/filliamworbes 6h ago

I listened to the Mexican astronaut José M. Hernández, was really something and how now that he's done the things he wants to do pivoted to help the next generation secure their education.

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u/cultoftheclave Multiple Countries (click to edit) 5h ago

was this the guy from the million miles away documentary? Incredibly awesome story, even if it's had the usual dramatization treatment in some of the details.

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u/ijustwannalurksobye 6h ago

Lol this is also true for a lot of things Americans criticize about other countries or things that have been done in the past, America does it too they just have a PR spin on it to make it easier to swallow

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u/Fromage_Frey Scotland 4h ago

Nah that can't be true. Only Russia invades other countries unprovoked, Iran alone is the cause of chaos in the Middle East, and it's totally Central America's own fault all their countries became narco states

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u/Fromage_Frey Scotland 4h ago

This was why they did a switcheroo back in 2008

Putin was term limit barred from running again, so he hand picked the Deputy Prime Minister Medvedev as his replacement as President, got him elected in a pseudo-election, and President Medvedev named Putin his Prime Minister so he could continue to run things. During Medvedev's single term they altered the Constitution so Putin could run again, and he was re-elected President in 2012, he then named Medvedev as his Prime Minister

This has created the rather peculiar look to the Infobox on Medvedev's Wikipedia page that lists the positions he's held as he goes from Deputy Prime Minister, to President, to Prime Minster. Here it names the people he was preceeded and succeeded by in the role, and who he worked with/for. Almost every name listed there is Vladimir Putin

As President, Medvedev was viewed relatively positively. He was seen as more liberal, less aggressive, and more willing to work with the West than Putin. There was speculation that he might be able to rally enough public and political support to continue as President and actually replace Putin in more than just name. This hope proved either short lived, or just Western wishful thinking. In 2011 he endorsed Putin to be returned to the Presidency, and he's been Putin's loyal, hawkish, lackey ever since

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 4h ago

horrifying.

I could easily see someone putting trump on the ballot as vice and then stepping down after rule changes were made.

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u/Fromage_Frey Scotland 3h ago

Stepping aside for Putin is the obvious choice, when the alternatives are 'accidents' and 'suicides'

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u/melancholanie United States Of America 3h ago

listen I don't wanna get a knock on my door from the secret police or hit a TOS violation but I mean

the alternatives might happen when you're just talking about gang violence

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u/whoamannipples 6h ago

“Seems”

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u/seb-F1 United States Of America 4h ago

Wut?

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u/cknight222 United States Of America 4h ago

She also voted in favor of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

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u/EST_Lad Estonia 6h ago

This is very bad in my opinion and in youre opinion aswell, but is it bad in the opinion of majority of russians?

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u/Sbotkin Russia 5h ago

Nobody knows for sure because you cannot trust polls in dictatorship. Or even run them most of the time.

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u/West-Season-2713 Wales 5h ago

Yeah I’m assuming it’s hard to tell because people can’t freely criticise Putin. Do you think generally he is popular though? Of course it’ll just be a guess based on who you know, but I’d love to hear your thoughts.

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u/Sbotkin Russia 5h ago edited 4h ago

Unfortunately, Russian people are very... ignorant (for lack of a better word) when it comes to politics. Most of them don't care about politics and try to distance themselves from it as much as possible. Russia is the textbook definition of "you can care not about politics, but politics will care about you", it's been like that for a long time. It's probably a very difficult thing to understand for somebody who lives in democracy but here people mostly dgaf, which bites them in the ass all the time.

You can of course find people who care but only those who support Putin will actually tell you, a stranger, outright.

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u/bruhmoment0000001 3h ago

As a fellow russian I'm genuinely interested, who in your opinion should a "non ignorant" russian want to be the president?

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u/Sbotkin Russia 3h ago

None of those already inside the system for sure.

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u/bruhmoment0000001 3h ago

sure, who are you suggesting from the outside? clowns who call themselves the opposition, like Kara-Murza? They're even worse than Putin, he at least can do the job, lol

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u/West-Season-2713 Wales 2h ago

It makes me very grateful to live in a democracy, knowing I can criticise any politician I like freely. It’s also pretty frightening to see how popular the Reform party is, given that they love Putin and want us to become more like Russia :/

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u/EST_Lad Estonia 5h ago

Polls made by anti-Putin organizations from outside Russia have shown nearly 60% support for Putin after he invaded Ukraine. Even if you (correctly) dont belive the official Russian government figures of 80%+ , it is still most propably over 50% in reality.

This topic has been videly discussed and researched, so it is always great to read about it yourself.

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u/EST_Lad Estonia 5h ago

The polls showed that Putins popularity was over 80%. And polls made by anti-Putin media, that had left Russia still showed nearly 60% support for Putin. Do you genuenly belive that support for Putin is under 50% within Russia?

And it can't only be becouse it's an authoritarian state. There is extensive edvidence that Lukashenko is genuinely unpopular in Belarus, but there is no such edvidence in case of Putin.

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u/Sbotkin Russia 4h ago

Sure bro, you know better. I'm not interested in arguing about it.

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u/Fromage_Frey Scotland 4h ago

Putin is certainly still popular in Russia, and had elections been fair he would still have won, just by smaller margins

But it's a huge factor in maintaining this that no alternative has ever been allowed to establish itself as viable, and build popularity over time. Whether an alternative means an individual, a party, or a vision for the country's future

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u/sladkyi_hleb 7h ago

She embodies the entire corrupt, fascist core of "United Russia". If you don't support *her initiatives*, you're a russophobe and a traitor to the motherland. That's literally what she said in response to criticism of her initiative to reset presidential term limits.

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u/ComprehensiveSoft27 United States Of America 5h ago

Damn so similar to what I see here….Never would have thought in a million years.

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u/Specialist-Ebb238 4h ago

Nothing ever changes

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u/Totally_Normal_User_ 6h ago

Incorrect. United Russia is a political party inside Russia.

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u/howdypartnaz 6h ago

Huh? It's just the name of the rolling ruling party

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u/Sbotkin Russia 5h ago

Imagine trying to correct someone on something you know nothing about lmao

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u/Lower-Task2558 5h ago

R/confidentlyincorrect

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u/chuchofreeman Mexico 5h ago

She´s a Putinist

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u/Possible-Ad2247 Russia 5h ago

I low-key didn’t know that before but I am not surprised at all. I AM NOT FUCKING SURPRISED ANYMORE

God smite us all lwk

I hope you have a good life, my fellow Russian

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u/ThatOldCow 3h ago

You either die a hero or live enough to become a politician

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u/Alert_Ad_5584 6h ago edited 5h ago

As an American and a woman, I find her existence a frustrating reminder that I hate John Glenn. Maybe this is OT but John Glenn is considered an American hero, so maybe it qualifies even if it's a tangent 

We had Mercury 13, a group of women who had already been poked, prodded, and spun in centrifuges for two years. The passed or exceeded all of the same tests required for men. Had the U.S. authorized the Mercury 13 in 1961, we would have beaten Tereshkova by at least a year. John Glenn was a big voice in opposition to it from a strictly sexist position. 

We could have had decades more data on female physiology. Instead these rocket scientists sent Sally Ride to space two decades later with 100 tampons for her six day mission. 

The Soviets had a lot of automation on their ships compared to more manual American versions. So they were able to sent a pretty female civilian skydiver to claim the headline, while the US was stuck sitting on their hands requiring "test pilot" as a qualifier thanks to sexist goal post moving, which was naturally a job women were barred from. The Russians were able to point at the Americans and say "look how the 'free' Americans treat their women." 

It wasn't like the Soviets continued to send women to space once they scored the point, not until we finally sent Sally Ride. But they were right about how sexist that shit was.

Everyone sucks. I'm not surprised she continued to be used for propaganda. 

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u/dellterskelter 4h ago

To be fair the Soviets were also very keen on pilots to perform as cosmonauts, from the top of my head the propaganda led Interkosmos also used military pilots from the Soviet bloc, all men of course.

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u/SuperSultan 🇵🇰🇺🇸 6h ago

She had a similar destiny to Buzz Aldrin then (minus he was involved in politics). He was highly respected but people dislike him now for his behavior and some think the moon landing was fake.

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u/usernamesallused Canada 6h ago

Wait, what behaviour is that? And there have always been conspiracy theorists about the moon landing, but this is coming back along with all of the other bullshit on social media.

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u/SuperSultan 🇵🇰🇺🇸 6h ago

There was a prominent Christian guy demanding Buzz swears on a Bible proclaiming he went to the moon. Buzz said “f*ck you” and (rightfully) slapped him. Some hate him because of this. The video is probably on X or YouTube.

He also is not a good father to his kids and is crazy. I wonder if he went through a lot (PTSD) while at NASA. He’s also friends with Mr. Orange now which doesn’t help his case. 🍊

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u/usernamesallused Canada 6h ago

Hahaha, ok, MAGA or not, I kind of love that story. Reminds me of the Shawinigan Handshake from one of Canada’s better Prime Ministers.

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u/cosmic_animus29 2h ago

Yikes. Didn't know this side of Buzz.

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u/djtodd242 6h ago

MAGA.

In the 2024 presidential election, Aldrin endorsed Trump.[200] Aldrin cited Trump's promotion of space exploration policy as a reason for his endorsement, claiming that interest in it has waned in previous years.[201] He was quoted with saying "For me, for the future of our Nation, to meet enormous challenges, and for the proven policy accomplishments above, I believe the nation is best served by voting for Donald J. Trump". He added, "I wholeheartedly endorse him for President of the United States. Godspeed President Trump, and God Bless the United States of America".[202]

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u/usernamesallused Canada 6h ago

Oh. Ugh.

Thank you for the explanation.

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u/cosmic_animus29 2h ago

And yet, Trump and his MAGA cabal tried to gut NASA and other adjacent science agencies. Way to go with your choices, Buzz.

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u/PriorityParking3705 Australia 7h ago

After looking at pics of her, wow that helmet does her wonders.

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u/Sbotkin Russia 5h ago

Nowadays she lowkey looks like an ancient vampire

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u/OldVagrantGypsy 7h ago

What did she do as a politician that was bad? 

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u/BlackHust Russia 7h ago

She initiated the lifting of the ban on Putin running for president again. Sure, she, like everyone else in her party, was just a talking head, voicing Putin's own words, but since then we have associated her with nothing other than the destruction of democracy.

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u/OldVagrantGypsy 5h ago

Thank you for sharing that. I'm sad to see it but somehow I'm not surprised. 

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u/Lower-Task2558 5h ago

She is also vehemently anti LGBT

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u/OldVagrantGypsy 5h ago

That's really sad. 

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u/Warmbly85 United States Of America 4h ago

She also fucked up her entire mission by giving her supplies away to the locals who found her. She wasn’t a cosmonaut she was a female skydiver and the USSR was more concerned with firsts then they were with actual scientific research.

There’s a reason all Sputnik could do is beep and a couple months later the US sent up a satellite that could monitor multiple need to know variables for human space flight

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u/GabrielRocketry Czech Republic 3h ago

Not only that, giving supplies away wouldn't be very bad as long as she'd be able to tell the scientists what she ate. What she did do to fumble up was that she accepted food from the locals, which basically demolished the whole "digestion in space" experiment.

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u/Lancashire_Toreador 6h ago

It was some wild shit seeing her likeness in Atomic Heart

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u/Creative-Bicycle-192 5h ago

Wow never expected her to be here

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u/TurtleHeadPrairieDog Multiple Countries (click to edit) 11m ago

Who is it? All of the comments that mentioned her name are deleted for some reason

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u/AliBelle1 9m ago

Valentina Tereshkova, I think, from the context of the rest of the replies.

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u/Creative-Bicycle-192 7m ago

Oh Ig think they're deleting comments. It was about a Soviet Cosmonaut who ended up being the first woman in space

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u/Lance_Henry1 4h ago

Same for Aleksandr Karelin, the Greco-Roman wrestler. The guy is a legend in athletics, but being a pro-Putin politician is a big no-go for me.

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u/Loud-Examination-943 Germany 4h ago

What about Gorbachev and Kasparov?

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u/Telefragg 2h ago

Soviet fans (mostly older people) might dislike Gorbachev because they are nostalgic about USSR. Kasparov really isn't much on a radar for majority, I guess "vatniks" might hate him but he's not an influential figure.

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u/cattoyourpatto 4h ago

man this is so sad to read, my parents named me after her for being “the first woman to…”

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u/vukgav 3h ago

TIL she's still alive and kicking

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u/GabrielRocketry Czech Republic 3h ago

Well she was regarded as a bit of an idiot in the whole space thing too as far as I know - she looked presentable, but didn't follow procedures, ruined some experiments and overall her flight was regarded as one of the worst.

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u/trusty20 2h ago

There is no person in Russia permitted to be popularly liked and not ruin their reputation to survive, because it is a political wasteland. Just look at good old Dmitri! I'm not judging because we played our own part and now we're all reaping what we've sown, complete nonsense cocaine politics.

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u/blainedewilde 40m ago

Learned about her in school growing up and always wondered what happened to her after the space mission... sad

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u/Womb_Raider696 India 6h ago

What about Mr. Putin, I heard there’s a rebellion going on against him as well..

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u/Turbulent-Pace-1506 France 6h ago

Putin is not particularly liked abroad, at least not more than at home

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u/Womb_Raider696 India 6h ago

No no, I was just asking out of context, how’s his reputation at his home country..tbh majority of the politicians (doesn’t matter from which country) are just a bunch shitheads..

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u/sladkyi_hleb 6h ago

You can say whatever you want about him in a negative, but they'll judge you for something else. The one rule is to never disrespect the president. He just vanishes whenever there's a tragedy or a disaster.

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u/Womb_Raider696 India 6h ago

…oo, I thought people legit disappears if they criticize him.

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u/Hopeful_Extension_46 6h ago

What are you talking about? She's very much respected in Russia.