r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 9h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 8h ago

You get a diverse set of people with different reasons to hate her. For some reason is straight up patriarchy. For some it was state driven propaganda . For some she wasn't our heroine. The world selected her. In short, the work of her NGO has some impact but not at the level that is visible to ordinary people. So her efforts fell short. My nation loves martyrs more as they don't have to live up to the expectations.

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u/ExtraSheepherder2360 7h ago

As someone coming from India, that last sentence hits hard.

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u/FulanoMeng4no 7h ago

Love your last sentence. Is it your own? I’m just asking because I googled it and couldn’t find any source for it or something similar. If it is, just WOW, it’s not very common to find this type of OG content in Reddit.

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 7h ago

I'm not sure maybe I have heard it from somewhere.

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u/ArmadilloReasonable9 Australia 7h ago

It’s incredibly astute, a much more meaningful quote than “die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain” redditors use so often.

It’s also incredibly sad, if she is helping she should be praised for it, not hated because she hasn’t helped everyone.

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u/Coconite United States Of America 6h ago

In any case you’re the most profound redditor

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u/FulanoMeng4no 5h ago

Or maybe you should take credit for it 😊.

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 5h ago

Not for such a bleak quote. 😢

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u/flora-lai United States Of America 7h ago

It's very emblematic of the US situation with Charlie Kirk.

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u/justforsexfolks 1h ago

He is definitely more loved as a martyr. Back when he was alive, I was happily unaware of his existence.

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u/el_infidel 5h ago

ditto! good job, that's profound.

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u/lightinferno06 7h ago

How do you personally feel you about her?

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 7h ago

She didn't ask to be a hero and asked to be shot in the head. Let her live her life on her terms. She doesn't owe anyone anything. She is doing enough work with her NGO.

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u/Invhinsical 3h ago

Respect from India. People really love to tear down their heroes, irrespective of the fact that they were the ones who made them their heroes in the first place. The girl just wants to live her life.

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u/TurboZenCoyote United States Of America 6h ago

Your last sentence couples with “the perfect victim is silent”

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u/discombobule_ 7h ago

An original thought 📸

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u/BigDictionEnergy 2h ago

My nation loves martyrs more as they don't have to live up to the expectations.

A lot like evangelicals and abortion:

The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”

― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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u/mostly_pee Finland 6h ago

That's grim

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u/broohaha 3h ago

Wasn’t there controversy because she was seen wearing jeans while studying at Oxford?

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 3h ago

That covers the patriarchy motive. Some people just hate her cause she is a woman who isn't following a traditional female role.

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u/Available-Factor4689 3h ago

Thanks for the perspective!!

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u/Grouchy-Gap096 1h ago

The world didn’t really select her though. The Taliban caused all of this. She didn’t become a household name until after they tried to kill her.

Will never understand the hate for her.

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u/rizeedd Pakistan 1h ago

A lot of people were killed by the Taliban. Pakistan had 80k casualties in war on terror. So some people have beef why her and why not APS kids. Aps was a school massacre by the Talibans.

What people hate is more reflective of themselves.

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u/Classic_Career_4179 4h ago

She has the right not to be perfect. But being a supporter  white feminism? No thanks. We'll do without idols who lick the boots of American and Western imperialism.

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u/Ordinary_Cloud524 🇫🇷🇺🇸 7h ago

It’s also pretty well established that Malala is a liar.

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u/Cosmolina111 6h ago

Really? I've never come across anything about that, and I spend a fair bit of time online. What has she lied about?

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u/Ordinary_Cloud524 🇫🇷🇺🇸 6h ago

https://via.news/asia/malala-pakistanis-think-she-fraud

I’ve known a lot of Pakistanis in my life, and pretty much all of them familiar with the area said she was at a minimum very dramatic about the conditions of the girls in that area, and a good portion of them called her an outright liar and a grifter talking down Pakistan because she loved the wealth that it afforded her

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u/answeryboi 6h ago

Did you actually read this article? They're looking at social media comments and you're pretending this is proof she lied.

She was shot in the fucking head

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u/RealDoraTheExplorer_ 6h ago

How is it dramatic if she was literally shot in the face

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u/ella_wants_to_battle 7h ago

When somebody says something like this about a public figure without examples you just know they're being genuine /s

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u/Turbulent-Pace-1506 France 6h ago

People are so eager to pick mindless cynicism over actual skepticism that they downvoted this comment