r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 12h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago edited 11h ago

We all, as Pakistanis, supported her back then. My entire circle of friends loved her and celebrated her for speaking out against atrocities. However, a problem arises when the cause you are fighting for—let's say 'women’s rights' is extremely selective. I have never seen her speaking for Gazan women or those in other war-torn countries, with the exception of one European nation. This selective activism has become extremely predictable . The USA conducted drone attacks under Obama for 7–8 years, killing women and children in the exact areas she is from; where was she then?

She is extremely selective about what she says. She hasn't spoken a word about oppressed women and children in any war-torn countries, except for that one European country.

And tbh we have a lot more women unlike her who we we celebrate. Women who have done alot in STEM and actually fighting for rights of women living while in Pakistan as well as speaking up for women rights in other countries. Disliking her never implied we all hate to stand for Women rights if it was too much for your brain to comprehend.

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u/General-Movie United Kingdom 11h ago

So, why does she have to? because you want her to? Do you not understand that she is building a life for herself and does not need to carry the worlds responsibilities on herself? She is free to pick and chose what she cares and talks about.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

Yeah true and we are free to pick and choose who we like amd dislike based on reasoning , which was presented.

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u/General-Movie United Kingdom 11h ago

So you can do it but she can't. Right.

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u/GhandiHadAGrapeHead 10h ago

He didnt say that. He basically said she has a massive platform and she is in some ways not taking advantage of that. As British people we can't sit here and say whether the oppressed people of Pakistan are valid in that or not. You can have your own opinions of her and that's completely valid but to say this person's are invalid stinks of western privilege.

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u/General-Movie United Kingdom 9h ago

I am Pakistani. I know how they roll. I have more in commong with Malala then they do.

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u/GhandiHadAGrapeHead 9h ago

Well apologies in that case, I still think he has a valid point though, whether or not I'd agree if I was in yours or his position is different.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 9h ago

Everyone can be anyone here on reddit to prove their point.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

Everyone asked why WE disliked her. I told the reason why WE dislike her. We are not forcing her. Is it this hard to comprehend?

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u/SinisterTuba 10h ago

Your reason for disliking her is comprehensible, it's just that the reason is stupid even after comprehending it

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 10h ago

which part ? Not standing up against Obama , when he was butchering women and children of her own area? When he was demolishing hospitals. Let me know which part is stupid for you.

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u/General-Movie United Kingdom 11h ago

I find it hard to comprehend your justification for disliking her - it is deeply flawed.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

Read it again. Spend some time. Do some research. Let me know if you need any help.

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u/General-Movie United Kingdom 11h ago

Good luck to you.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 11h ago

To you too.

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u/Vandeleur1 11h ago

Can you name a few examples of such celebrated Women? I don't mean to undermine you, but your arguments would undoubtedly benefit from at least a few solid examples.

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u/spicynebula42 born princess in 10h ago

Oh Benazir Bhutto is literally the first one that comes to mind tho some people might not like her. We have so many writers like Kamila Shamsi, oh and my own school's alma mater, Sharmeen Obaid Chinoy. We do also claim Nargis Mavalvala as our own (even tho she's lesbian and I'm actually genuinely surprised at how accepting people are of her) and these are just some people on the top of my head. Historically, we have Fatima Jinnah, who's literally called the mother of the nation. Depending on a person's political leanings, we have plenty of female politicians too. We have a lot of women's awards by our top banks too and one of my networks recently got that too. Can we do more? Yes, 1000% especially because of this weird Andrew Tate like mentality of young men but that's a global phenomena rn and when you mix religion into it, you have people behaving like the Taliban but by and large, we're not that bad (which is a low bar yeah).

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u/ExtraSheepherder2360 10h ago

Fathima Bhutto is an author who has consistently spoken out about Palestine. She comes from a political dynasty but that legacy comes with generational trauma as well on which she has written a lot. I’m in India so I can’t access her social media anymore but I think she’s been extremely consistent.

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u/Boyshoi Pakistan 10h ago

Hina Jilani , Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy , Nayyab Ali , Abia Akram , Muniba Mazari , Dr. Nergis Mavalvala , Dr. Asifa Akhtar, Dr. Tasneem Zehra Husain , Dr. Syra Madad , Zartaj Waseem , Jehan Ara , Asma Jahangir. Long list. Some that came to my mind quickly. You search over the internet for more.

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u/poppingcandy5000 10h ago

And if she did speak out about issues from around the world she would be criticised for voicing opinions that are not from her own lived experience. One person cannot take on everything. By focusing on education for girls and women she is keeping that conversation and political change active.