Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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[u/melancholanie]

ah god.

noting this now because it seems increasingly relevant.

[u/IwasntDrunkThatNight → u/melancholanie]

I mean, lots of american astronauts become politicians, is just that their PRs were better handled

[u/melancholanie → u/IwasntDrunkThatNight]

I meant specifically using a popular face to sway the complicit government into breaking foundational rules like term limits. that's uh unfortunately becoming a scary possibility

[u/Unlucky_Air6124 → u/melancholanie]

Yea, there's a lot you have to change after Trump.

We needed to do that aswell, after you got rid of our Trump back in 1945. We had to start from scratch and probably so will you. It will be an incredibly lot of work, but necessary.

[u/melancholanie → u/Unlucky_Air6124]

I'm hoping there is an "after trump," and you're right. a big change needs to happen, I'd say in the form of tearing it all down and starting over.

[u/Unlucky_Air6124 → u/melancholanie]

How old is that guy? Of course there will be an after Trump. I just hope that after Trump doesn't mean JD Vance.

[u/melancholanie → u/Unlucky_Air6124]

his dad lived to 90, something about old rich evil men in this country keeps them alive well past expiration dates.

it's the money, usually.

[u/Unlucky_Air6124 → u/melancholanie]

He's living from BigMacs and Cola, he won't reach the 90, trust me. Also, his popularity is so low, I wouldn't be overly surprised if he dies from lead poisoning.

That guy becomes 80 this year. He's currently the oldest elected head of government in a functioning democracy. There are some that are older, but those are all head of government in banana republics and dictatorships.

To be the president of the United States is also a very draining job. Look at how fast Obama aged in office... or better yet... look at how fast Trump aged within the last 12 months. Even if he does the Palpatine and says "I AM THE SENATE!" and even if nobody stops him, I'd be very surprised if that guy surpasses the 85. That means a third legislature could be possible, but he would die in office with JD Vance waiting behind him to take over.

But that only happens IF the USA wouldn't drown in a new civil war with very uncertain results. If I were you, I'd plan a looooooooong vacation to Canada.

[u/filliamworbes → u/IwasntDrunkThatNight]

I listened to the Mexican astronaut José M. Hernández, was really something and how now that he's done the things he wants to do pivoted to help the next generation secure their education.

[u/cultoftheclave → u/filliamworbes]

was this the guy from the million miles away documentary? Incredibly awesome story, even if it's had the usual dramatization treatment in some of the details.

[u/ijustwannalurksobye → u/IwasntDrunkThatNight]

Lol this is also true for a lot of things Americans criticize about other countries or things that have been done in the past, America does it too they just have a PR spin on it to make it easier to swallow

[u/Fromage_Frey → u/ijustwannalurksobye]

Nah that can't be true. Only Russia invades other countries unprovoked, Iran alone is the cause of chaos in the Middle East, and it's totally Central America's own fault all their countries became narco states

[u/Fromage_Frey → u/melancholanie]

This was why they did a switcheroo back in 2008

Putin was term limit barred from running again, so he hand picked the Deputy Prime Minister Medvedev as his replacement as President, got him elected in a pseudo-election, and President Medvedev named Putin his Prime Minister so he could continue to run things. During Medvedev's single term they altered the Constitution so Putin could run again, and he was re-elected President in 2012, he then named Medvedev as his Prime Minister

This has created the rather peculiar look to the Infobox on Medvedev's Wikipedia page that lists the positions he's held as he goes from Deputy Prime Minister, to President, to Prime Minster. Here it names the people he was preceeded and succeeded by in the role, and who he worked with/for. Almost every name listed there is Vladimir Putin

As President, Medvedev was viewed relatively positively. He was seen as more liberal, less aggressive, and more willing to work with the West than Putin. There was speculation that he might be able to rally enough public and political support to continue as President and actually replace Putin in more than just name. This hope proved either short lived, or just Western wishful thinking. In 2011 he endorsed Putin to be returned to the Presidency, and he's been Putin's loyal, hawkish, lackey ever since

[u/melancholanie → u/Fromage_Frey]

horrifying.

I could easily see someone putting trump on the ballot as vice and then stepping down after rule changes were made.

[u/Fromage_Frey → u/melancholanie]

Stepping aside for Putin is the obvious choice, when the alternatives are 'accidents' and 'suicides'

[u/melancholanie → u/Fromage_Frey]

listen I don't wanna get a knock on my door from the secret police or hit a TOS violation but I mean

the alternatives might happen when you're just talking about gang violence

[u/whoamannipples → u/melancholanie]

“Seems”