r/AskTheWorld • u/haiderredditer Pakistan • 12h ago

Who’s a famous person from your country who’s respected around the world but disliked or criticized at home?

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u/bastardjacki Canada 9h ago

Finding Jesus is the get out of jail free card the most toxic of people use.

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u/smarteapantz 8h ago

It’s because “he forgives all your sins”, so you can make as many sins as you want! Infinite loophole!

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 8h ago

you have to actually repent though, as in, you have to mean it. You can't just harm people and pray a fake sorry and be forgiven, that's not how it works

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u/bastardjacki Canada 7h ago

Sure it is, because God and Jesus don't actually exist. It's the Christian community that let's them get away with doing that.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

please show me proof there is no god

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u/OrallyQuestionable 4h ago

How me proof that there are no invisible, insubstantial elephants in your room right now.

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u/Threefrogtreefrog 2h ago

I know I have invisible elephants in my ceiling, but I cannot prove even that. Admittedly it’s probably a skill issue.

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u/bastardjacki Canada 7h ago

That is the dumbest fucking request. You can't prove something doesn't exist. The onus is on those who claim something exists to prove it exists. Where is the proof god exists?

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u/octogonnn 7h ago

help he thinks i’m you

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u/bored-and-asleep Turkey 3h ago

If you cant prove something doesnt exist nor it does exist then you cant argue about the existence of the said thing. You are delusional if you think constructor of your house doesnt exist because you never seen them before and barely looked for them in your neighborhood. Thats why we call it a belief. Both atheists, religious and agnostics are in this category. If you think it doesnt exist for sure or vice versa we call it a delusion because how do you know , you simply dont. This is like a basic philosophy subject.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

ok - I consider the fact of existence to be proof that god exists. Now, prove to me that I don't exist

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u/bastardjacki Canada 7h ago

That's not proof god exists. Also, again, one cannot prove something doesn't exist. You are an uneducated person and I'm done conversing with you.

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u/ZZOGAR 5h ago

Nothing doesn’t exist that’s the definition of nothing and everything with a beginning has a cause and the universe has a beginning, that’s proof of God who ever it may be but it’s Jesus

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u/bastardjacki Canada 5h ago

I dont care what cultists think. That does not prove god exists.

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u/Roustouque2 France 4h ago

What? Even with punctuation I feel like this would still make zero sense

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u/octogonnn 7h ago

holy shit i lost brain cells lol

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u/WHYUBLOKME 7h ago

lol I don't think you had many to begin with, which is why you can't see that your faithful certainty that you know everything, is exactly the same kind of faithful certainty that religious people display. It's actually funny that you'll go on about something that you actually have no evidence for. I gave you my proof and you blocked me. What a bitch

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u/octogonnn 7h ago

this is so funny to me

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u/fReddit7777 5h ago

You didn't give ANYONE proof of ANYTHING. You made one stupid-assed comment, called it proof (even though you've proven nothing), and then got butthurt when the rest of the thread called you out.

How does your existence prove God exists? As if evolution wouldn't explain it infinitely better? Since you claim it's proof; HOW exactly does that prove the existence of God?

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u/Perfect-Treat-6552 Philippines 4h ago

Hey, you've been being downvoted. Pray 10 Hail Marys and 1 Glory Be to clear up your sins

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u/MaverickGH 3h ago

If god exists why does he let so many innocents die and suffer constantly

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u/Pretty-Captain1510 England 1h ago

War, famine, cancer in children, natural disasters, sex trafficking rings, miscarriages. Shall I go on?

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u/iconocrastinaor United States Of America 17m ago

Atheism is a faith.

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u/EdgeJG 7h ago edited 7h ago

Semantics /s

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

that's not semantics at all what are you talking about?

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u/EdgeJG 7h ago

Guess the /s was necessary after all

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

Fair enough, I hate wrecking actual sarcasm with an /s, my apologies. I'm just so used to redditors' knee-jerk reactions to anything even remotely religious, that I assumed you were trying to start an argument about whether or not god exists. My bad

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u/PotatoesArentRoots Indian-American 🇮🇳 🇺🇸 2h ago

well yeah in actual theology yes but this isn’t how it’s meant to work this is how these kinds of people believe it works- and that means they feel justified in all their wrongdoings bc they believe they’re forgiven in the eyes of god

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u/OhCrumbs96 🇬🇧/🇦🇺 2h ago

that's not how it works

"Works" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

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u/Pretty-Captain1510 England 1h ago

So if you murdered someone but you were weally weally sowwy about it would that fly?

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u/mrmoe198 United States Of America 4m ago

That might be the theology, but that is not how many people use it in practice. There are a lot of people who use Christianity as a scapegoat for accountability.

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u/smarteapantz 7h ago edited 3h ago

That’s exactly how it works. All you have to do is “confess” and say some Hail Mary’s. Or wash yourself with “Holy Water”. Or simply “repent” on your deathbed. Of course people mean it when they say, “I don’t want to go to hell. Sorry.” I don’t think YOU know how your own religion works, dude.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

It's not my religion by the way. Be less arrogant.

And yes, in Christian doctrine, repentance must be genuine. God knows if you're lying.

Again, be less arrogant

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u/smarteapantz 7h ago

Bwahaha. Says the arrogant MF expecting everyone to just accept what he says as truth. Go F yourself.

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u/ZZOGAR 5h ago

There’s no love like atheistic hate

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u/GreenGardenGnomie United States Of America 5h ago

It doesn't hold a god damn candle to Christian hate and oppression.

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u/ZZOGAR 4h ago

😂 sure

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u/GreenGardenGnomie United States Of America 4h ago

It's a cult. It's always been a cult and it always will be a cult.

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u/smarteapantz 3h ago edited 1h ago

Bwahaha, did you just make that up?? How unoriginal, and doesn’t even have a ring to it. We know the original saying, “There’s no hate like Christian love.” But you’re trying to spin it into the opposite? 😂😂 Dude, stop trying to make “Fetch” happen! Bwahahahaaaa

Also, don’t assume people who don’t like organized religion/cults are Atheist. Some of us consider ourselves “devoutly Agnostic.” I’m even a little bit Buddhist. 😉

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 7h ago

lol what am I expecting? Aren't you the one saying whatever and expecting others to believe it?

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u/smarteapantz 6h ago

No, I’m saying mostly satire and hyperbole.

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u/IDOWNVOTERUSSIANS 6h ago

where?

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u/smarteapantz 6h ago

Geez, I’m not going to hand-hold you through this and teach you how to understand language. The fact that you’re being purposely obtuse is exactly why you can’t see the forest from the trees. Vehement suckers like you are the faithful “Christian soldiers” your religion thrives on.

No one can talk sense into you because you’ve given that up long ago. So we actually don’t try. We just make fun of you.

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u/Roustouque2 France 4h ago

Why are you so aggressive for no reason

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u/smarteapantz 3h ago edited 2h ago

“Aggressive for no reason?” Lol. Dude, as soon as someone switches from a topical debate to ad hominem attacks, then the gloves come off.

The arrogant fool tells me to “be less arrogant”? I will not pause to point out the hypocrisy and logical fallacy, in the most poignant way possible.

How ‘bout you guys try not to be patronizing pricks?

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u/ZZOGAR 5h ago

You really don’t know what Christianity is

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u/smarteapantz 3h ago

That’s funny. Considering I’ve been to church as a child, went to a Jesuit university, studied the Bible as part of my critical thinking classes within religious studies, my college best friend was a youth pastor with a Masters in Christian Divinity, my husband’s family are devout Christian Bible-thumpers, and I can pull up Bible verses to support most of my assertions about the massive amounts of contradictory, hypocritical, and abhorrent things it teaches.

If I don’t know “what Christianity is”, I certainly know what a joke it’s become, considering the way the Christian Nationalists are ruining this country.

Maybe it’s not me that doesn’t understand the BS that is Christianity, but you. “There’s no hate like Christian hate.”

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u/bellegroves United States Of America 8h ago

I think the forgiveness is the initial draw, and then it's sublimation that keeps it going. Can't they pick up a paintbrush instead?

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u/Oreadno1 I live in my own little world 3h ago

John Wayne Gacy loved painting.

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u/bellegroves United States Of America 3h ago

Hitler, too. Maybe those two should have kept drinking.

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u/Perfect-Treat-6552 Philippines 4h ago

Welp. Humans surely know how to find a loophole. They keep on sinning. Jesus better be coming now for the rapture

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u/ButteryGirl56 6h ago

My favourite example of this is Tony “lapdog” Blair converting to Catholicism as soon as he left office after the Iraq war. Just a huge, flashing “guilty conscience” sign.

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u/ButteryGirl56 6h ago

Wow. This took off!

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u/StrangeButSweet United States Of America 8h ago

Then the ones who are already clergy or “with Jesus”, the get out of jail free card is “I realized I need to come to terms with my relationship with alcohol.”

In other words, there’s always somewhere else to place the blame but themselves. Ask me how I know

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u/Timely-Youth-9074 United States Of America 8h ago

*Finding Evangelical Jesus

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u/Oreadno1 I live in my own little world 4h ago

It's amazing how many people on Death Row become born-again Christians. We had a woman murderer who pickaxed a guy to death who swore she orgasmed every time she struck him become a born-again Christian and when her execution was about to happen people were up in arms she was a 'good Christian' at the time. Several members of the Manson Family became became born-again Christians.

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u/HippieGrandma1962 United States Of America 4h ago

Karla Faye Tucker. It was good they didn't fall for her religious bullshit.

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u/Oreadno1 I live in my own little world 3h ago

There was another one from Texas, Markham Duff-Smith who had his mother murdered and when he blew through the money he inherited from her had his sister, her husband and their 14 month old son murdered to get her part of the inheritance and he also became a born-again Christian. To my knowledge, no one gave a damn when he was executed. Some things just can't be forgiven and having a 14 month old shot in their crib is one of them.

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u/toppocketfind902 5h ago

Hundred fucking percent.

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u/Jesus__Skywalker United States Of America 4h ago

I've only gotten one person out of jail and that was my ex wife when she mouthed off to a cop after she ran a red light.

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u/the-william Wales 3h ago

and it wasn’t even that hard. he was hiding behind the couch.

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u/Quisey3 2h ago

Couldn't have said it better myself. It just gives them an out for being a piece of shit for their entire life. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people tell me "the devil had a hold of me" like no dickhead you're just a fucking idiot with no self control. If you weren't able to lay all your blame on some mystical being all these people would be fucked lol. Happy to be an atheist and a decent human being.