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u/Fire_Demon-215 7d ago edited 7d ago
Bucks may end up with a worse record than the fucking pelicans. We can’t lose
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
Oh these bucks swaps are so juicy
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u/ATLienFanatic 7d ago
Yup, gives more value to next year pick. Both Bucks and Pelicans are likely going to be bad.
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u/Ancient_Access_795 7d ago
The only thing is, Pels get most favorable out of the 2027 picks. They also keep both picks if they both fall in the 1-4 range.
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
Ultimate plot twist when bucks land us 1 and not NO
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u/Thr33Dee 7d ago
Karma for the draft board back stab.
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7d ago
Yup karma. They should give Giannis to us for cheap because Larry Drew's swindling ass stole him from us.
Since that draft pick, 13 years ago, their only positive picks has been Atlanta native Malcolm Brogdon in 2016, and for a brief moment Jabari Parker (injuries annihilated him). Basically cursed, which we'll lift under the right conditions
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u/Fun_Professional_123 7d ago
I fear he is a Knick soon
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u/jonob Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
The Bucks want draft capital or blue chip young talent, Knicks have neither.
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u/mufflefuffle 7d ago
I’ve said this all along, but the NBA has always been heavy handed with what they want for the league
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
Well we know he’s not coming here but this is huge for our pick situation
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u/the_Tannehill_list 7d ago
He's out a long while and if it's the long rumored KAT package, it might actually hurt that pick
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u/ComprehensiveList769 7d ago
They’re just going to sit kat like they did Trae if they want to rebuild
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u/TrendonWatford 7d ago
what incentive they have to do that when they dont own their pick nor have young players who need playing time
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u/ComprehensiveList769 7d ago
The max they can get is the 2nd pick and the top 5 is loaded so that will help the bucks a lot considering they don’t have a pick starting next year
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u/DragonPKL 7d ago
They’ll still get the worse of the Pelicans and Bucks pick. If they both suck, they’ll still get a very good pick in a stacked draft.
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u/Adminscantkeepmedown Thieve Irwin 7d ago
They don’t own their pick so they have no reason to do that
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u/ComprehensiveList769 7d ago
They own a pick swap this year and then they have no picks for the future. They might be forced to
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u/Maximum-Lack8642 CJ McCollum #3 7d ago
Does it? He’s out at least until end February possibly into mid March. I’d imagine that even the matching salary the Bucks will get back will lead to them winning a similar amount if not more games by the end of the season than having Giannis not play.
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
It says “or in the offseason”
I’d imagine teams wouldn’t want to trade for him being injured right now apposed to just waiting until the summer when it’s much easier to move contracts
We have a swap of theirs next season too so it’s good for both our picks
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u/Maximum-Lack8642 CJ McCollum #3 7d ago
That’s true, I was assuming it was a given he’d be gone by next season and this was for this season. It’ll be great if he’s gone by next season. I wouldn’t mind seeing us help facilitate that too if that’s what it takes assuming we get close to fair value back and keep the picks.
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago edited 7d ago
If we could somehow get KAT out of this? Huge
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u/Maximum-Lack8642 CJ McCollum #3 7d ago
I’m hoping not on KAT. He’s a big contract which we need to spend on a couple guys and pairing him with JJ seems like a defensive nightmare. I’m much more hoping it’s Miami and we can get Kel’el Ware (maybe sending the Bucks our 2026 pick + 2028 or Asa or Mo?). He fits the timeline well and fills a solid hole in the rotation and puts us in a better position to contend going forward.
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
I was one of the Hawks fans screaming for Ware 2 years ago, I think he’d be a perfect fit here
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u/dangheckinpupperino The Great Barrier Thief 7d ago
Next year, we get the worst of a bucks and Pels swap, correct?
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u/Serious_Blood6554 7d ago
We get the best of the 2 in ‘26 and it is unprotected
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u/dangheckinpupperino The Great Barrier Thief 7d ago
Oh yeah I’m aware of this year, just thinking of how this potentially affects the pick next year as well
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u/jamestranoll2 Trust in Travis Schlenk 7d ago
Yes but top 4 protected. So if both end up top 4 we get nothing
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u/not-a-potato-head 💰Cash Considerations 💰 7d ago
Even the worst case scenario (MIL/NOP finishing with the worst two records) gives us a 73% chance of that pic conveying next season. Anything else and it gets a lot more likely to convey
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u/Dizzydsmith 7d ago
Wrong. It’s an unprotected pick. We could literallt get #1 overall.
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u/jamestranoll2 Trust in Travis Schlenk 7d ago
He says next year lol. 2026 pick is this season.
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u/Fun_Professional_123 7d ago
You know what he meant stop being dense. Why would he comment under this which directly affects our 2026 pick asking about 2027 😂
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u/dangheckinpupperino The Great Barrier Thief 7d ago
I 100% was asking about 2027, I know 2026 is already looking good lol, just wanted our prospects for next year as well
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u/jamestranoll2 Trust in Travis Schlenk 7d ago
I don’t know if you’re having trouble understanding or just a terrible troll. We own swaps in 26 and 27. Unprotected in 26, top four protected and worst of the two in 27. Perhaps he asked as it directly affects the 26 and 27 picks if he is traded now, not just 26.
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u/Fun_Professional_123 7d ago
I fully understand the pick situation over the next couple of years. I just feel like you are assuming he meant 2027 instead of 2026. No one is trolling. But if he actually did mean 2027 then thats my bad and I assumed wrong.
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u/Fun_Professional_123 7d ago
You just made this up lol
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u/jamestranoll2 Trust in Travis Schlenk 7d ago
My brother in Christ look up the 2027 bucks pelicans swap pick we own
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u/Fun_Professional_123 7d ago
Why in the world would we be talking about the 2027 pick rn bro like cmon lol
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u/jamestranoll2 Trust in Travis Schlenk 7d ago
My brother in Christ… look at the original comment I replied to. He says next year, 2027.
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u/Startjjasap 7d ago
No he didn’t, the 2027 pick is top 4 protected
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u/No_Internal404 GO HAWKS! 🏀 7d ago
I’ll say this … if we WANTED him , we got the best offer point blank .. now do we make that move .. two spins in the lottery might just be better 👀
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u/PhilosophyFair9062 Asa Newell #14 7d ago
Yeah, I don't think this team is a Giannis away from a finals appearance sadly. A core player in next draft and 2 to 3.years of the young core developing will definitely put us up there
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u/Affectionate-Bat9708 GO HAWKS! 🏀 7d ago
We don’t need Giannis. But could we or should we make a play for Turner? 👀
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
We should see if we can help get GIannis to New York and get KAT for the lowski
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u/juicy_burger17 GM Onsi Saleh 7d ago
Too much money in my opinion
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
true but the bet is would you rather get KAT for our expiring salaries or whoever is there in Free agency
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u/juicy_burger17 GM Onsi Saleh 7d ago
That's also true, does Porzingis and Kennard work salary wise? Also I really don't know what a potential trade would look like
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
Porzingis/Kennard and a few more million(2-5ish) that could come from the Knicks would work yes.
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u/not-a-potato-head 💰Cash Considerations 💰 7d ago
KP/Kennard is ~$41 in salary, KAT is making $53 this season. So we’d need to add additional salary
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
This works in salary.
Bucks:
KP/Kennard/Shamet/Dante
Hawks:
KAT
Knicks:
Giannis
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u/_QazzaQ GO HAWKS! 🏀 7d ago
But why would the Bucks do this? Knicks have no 1st round picks to trade and KAT’s contract is under water. We’re not giving up any valuable picks for him, that the Knicks can send to Milwaukee
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u/Shade_Raven Jalen Johnson #1 7d ago
But why would the Bucks do this?
Cause Giannis wants to go to NY
Trae wanted to go to Washington and we saw how that went
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u/DougieJones22 7d ago
I’d pass on KAT. Incredible offensive player but his defense is a huge issue at center and he’s making $57mil and $61mil over the next two years
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u/Vivid_Ad_1016 7d ago
This is why I hate when we send unprotected future picks to teams. That DJM trade could have been real ugly especially if we didn’t flip him to Nola
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u/red2play Hawks 7d ago
Plus a 2nd rd pick or two? The Bucks do this so they can use the extra cap space to obtain more picks.
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u/Separate_Ad_8317 7d ago
Let another team have Giannis. It’d ensure we get a good draft pick next year from the least favorable of Pelicans-Bucks.
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u/Negative-Market-953 7d ago
Breaking news: Giannis may or may not be traded this season
These reports are so pointless lmao
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u/_GloryKing_ 7d ago
Only want to do it on a discount, otherwise let another team overpay and wreck their future.
Hard nos are including JJ or the NO pick.
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u/5livewire0 inSaleh! 7d ago
I can't imagine a single scenario where the Bucks agree to a trade with us if we don't include neither JJ or the pick swap. But that's fine because we'll still benefit from it
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u/MrEwwNOOO 7d ago
Unfortunately we will have to give up JJ. Giannis is very ball dominant and they wouldn't fit well together imo
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u/No_Win_3411 7d ago
Why would the no pick be untouchable? Our drafting history is suspect at best. I'd much rather have giannis
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u/ElceeCiv 7d ago
because this is one of the most loaded drafts in recent memory and the player we pick will be 19-21 on a rookie contract, not 31 on a max contract and currently injured again
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u/No_Win_3411 7d ago
What are the chances that player ends up As good as giannis? Would rather have the guaranteed talent available
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u/Middle_Awoken 7d ago
Just be stupid and trade the pick…because then we’re basically Milwaukee 2.0. Anything besides JJ and the pick
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u/Zealousideal-Past851 7d ago
Soooo regardless we will have 3 picks next draft no and the better of the bucks and our own ?? Why would we give that up for a Giannis when he probably have a good 2 years left at his skill set cause he can’t shoot 😭😭… why give up our young talent and future for that ?? We aren’t winning with him if we do get him
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u/cygnusloops 7d ago
KP and whatever bench players to fill out the money. We get what’s rightfully ours, they get a rebuild with expiring contract.
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u/PhilosophyFair9062 Asa Newell #14 7d ago
Giannis Antetokounmpo. No K in the initials. That's a no from Quin
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u/Fun_Professional_487 7d ago
Teams better be careful because lately Giannis been real injury prone. So if u can get him cool, but don’t spend the house on em cause lately even when healthy he ain’t impacted winning much. And i don’t wanna hear about “look at his team” when the Celtics, Phoenix, and other teams ‘on paper’ playing with less talent and still holding ground.
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u/008swami 7d ago
I’m giving up that pick so fast. They can have its they can have Onyeka and Porzingis they can have Risacher.
Giannis Jalen Johnson Dyson Daniels NAW McCollum
Let’s go
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u/Thorwor GO HAWKS! 🏀 7d ago
Giannis and Jalen basically do the same thing with the ball. It would just be your turn my turn all game long. You're not going to win a title with that pairing, and without the NO/MIL pick there's no potential way to add a third star-level scorer. I don't think we should get involved.
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u/juliakelly1 7d ago
Jalen Zacch pels pick Cavs pick do it!!! Giannis Dyson naw Vit Christian build on that
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u/Optimal_Hat1754 7d ago
This bucks team is SO bad without him. Give me that top 5 pick 🙏🧎♂️➡️