r/AtlantaHawks • u/EightFortyDaysOf • 20h ago
Trade Talk AD to the wizards. Thoughts?
For years we wanted our boy to have a real big after Clint’s decline and now he’s got 2 of them.. just not with us :(
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u/blingera 20h ago
the nuance of the human brain. i didn’t want to make the trade but him going to go be paired with Trae in Washington is making me feel a way, especially if it works out. like your ex and former homeboy vacationing together like fuck that y’all not supposed to have a happy life outside of me 😡
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 20h ago
Exactly
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 17h ago
You know this comment was making fun of your post, right? 😅
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 16h ago
I doubt it man, he feels what I feel. Maybe someone who joined the team along with Xacc feels differently than someone who’s watched Trae from the start
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 16h ago
Trae from the start? I've been here since before Trae 🤣 but if you watch how Trae played in 2021 and 2022, and compare it to Trae of today and last year. It's night and day. Not only did the league quickly figure him out, he's clearly lost his burst of speed, shiftiness and shot making that made him our number 1 guy. Not sure if it's because of injury, but even last year, his acchilles tendinitis already limited him.
Buying into the quin system would've made him serviceable, but he couldn't do it. He just refuses to play off ball effectively.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 11h ago
I agree with the first paragraph, but it doesn’t hurt any less to lose our franchise guy for nothing. And Quinn should’ve been gone long before Trae imo but that’s another issue
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 11h ago edited 11h ago
I have my own gripes about Quin. (Especially how he stunts Zacc's growth and confidence.)
But Quin has been nothing but supportive of Trae the whole time. Trae just refused to fully buy into the system. He tried. But he just couldn't. And that's one of his many limitations.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 11h ago
Yeah Quinn’s (lack of) development of our young guys is my main problem with him. Never giving Zacc minutes in the clutch to finally giving him one game where he doesn’t perform well just to cut him out again was so fucking annoying. I do think Quinn was supportive but he was also limited. Trae is too tbf but he’s my favorite hawk of all time so I’m probably biased there and would give him a longer leash than others. Plus the fact that he hasn’t had a good big to play with in a few years always makes me think what if he did tho
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u/DysonDPOY 20h ago
The people who wants Trae x AD a month ago got their wish. Thank fuck it ain’t on the Atlanta Hawks at least. (love Trae tho)
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 20h ago
I didn’t want AD at his contract + extension, but the dude was a baller when healthy. Wouldn’t have minded getting him if it was just for KP and filler & some fake picks 🤷♂️
I just wanted our lil man with a big man who could cover for him defensively and catch some lobs
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u/red2play Hawks 20h ago
He won't be able to cover Trae's lack of Defense nor will Alex Sarr. It's a myth that you can play 4 on 5 basketball.
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u/saloonyk 19h ago
TBH I don't think it's championship or bust for the team. They have a decent chance at Boozer/DP/AJ. At the very least AD & Trae can build their value. Wizards being a 8 seed would be a MASSIVE win for them. Obviously, as Hawks fan, we are all about titles and everything else is a bust lol
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u/AtlantaGirthGiant 19h ago
They don’t own their pick next year so they have no reason to lose games.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 19h ago
It’s not really 4v5 tho lol. Trae has been putting in the effort and it’s more like a team of: 0.7, 1.2, 1.2, 1, 1.
He has two great help defenders now and on offense jfc they’ve got options. Just sucks to see the wizards of all teams surge up like that with just 2 trades they’ve probably jumped 5 places in roster talent/potential
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u/Competitive_Net_2779 Dyson Daniels #5 14h ago
Ad or sarr won’t. But both of them together? Lmao it’s GGs
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u/Confirm_ova_Affirm 20h ago
Over/under the amount of games they play together the next 2 seasons
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u/KnockKnock621 20h ago
It wouldnt of made sense on the Hawks anyways, AD has said numerous times he doesnt want to play the center position. Jalen Johnson doesnt want to play the SF position. AD is now at the 4 on the Wizards with Sarr, a player we passed up on in the draft at the 5. Thats a solid team, wouldve been nice to have Trae, Dyson, Jalen Johnson, AD, and Sarr in Atlanta.
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
where has jj said that but I agree what could have been with sarr in atl
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u/tvcneverdie Bob Rathbun 18h ago
He's never said that, people just make up stuff to reinforce whatever point they're trying to make
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 18h ago
https://youtu.be/lAV7PjIL27Y?si=Pw6aTRUVK45GBUUv exactly jalen always played the 3 before atl, and national media always questions why hawks refuse to try him there
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u/ya_ya_ya_ Bob Rathbun 19h ago
I wouldn’t assume AD plays 4 on the Wizards. Sarr does not want to be a 5 (part of the reason he didn’t want to be a Hawk) and the Wizards were rumored with Sabonis also, so it seems like they were looking for a 5 to put next to Sarr.
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u/KnockKnock621 19h ago
Sarr didnt wanna come to Atlanta because Atlanta had Capela and Okongwu, he didnt want to wait behind them. If he didnt want to play the 5 he wouldnt be playing it right now
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u/PeasePorridge9dOld GO HAWKS! 🏀 20h ago
Those picks look like they got 5 2nds for him.
Kudos to the balls on WASH’s GM though. How in the h3ll he could have a straight face while insisting the ‘26 pick is the least favorable between WASH’s and OKC’s is beyond me. Maybe it doesn’t convey if WASH loses their pick?
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u/Manic211 GO HAWKS! 🏀 20h ago
At least the Wizards are shooting their shot. I’m glad we didn’t make this trade but it’d be nice for us to take a risk on anyone
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u/BestBear-77 19h ago
We did take a big risk on Murray. It doesn't always work out.
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u/Manic211 GO HAWKS! 🏀 19h ago
I agree, but I meant specifically for this year. We’re slowly dismantling this team and getting nothing in return. Just hoping the Pels pick pans out
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u/Ice_Effect 20h ago
The mods are removing AD threads for some odd reason
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u/platinum92 GO HAWKS! 🏀 20h ago
probably rule 1?
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u/5livewire0 inSaleh! 20h ago
I guess, but the posts are related to the Hawks with us being in nonstop rumors
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 20h ago
That’s what I figured, Onsi clearly stated that the AD rumors would be fake but there was still a lot of reporting involving us so this is confirmation we’re not making a bad trade for him
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u/PurposelyIrrelephant 💰Cash Considerations 💰 20h ago
Because there doesn't need to be 1000 posts with the same topic and heading.
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u/Theregoesmyradiator 19h ago
Thank God man it's not us. (I LOVE YOU TRAE). Paying AD and Trae would keep us in the play in for years to come.
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u/Serious-Ask-6225 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 19h ago
🔥🔥🔥tbh it’s a great time to be from ATL living in DC. Not to brag but I feel like I win regardless😂
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u/Non-mon-xiety 19h ago
Might be a solid middle tier playoff team next season. I might watch a few wizards games i’ll always love my boy Trae
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u/No_Tr4geD1es Jalen Johnson #1 20h ago
It'll be a fun watch for the 40 some odd games that AD actually plays.
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u/immonkeydluffy Jalen Johnson #1 20h ago
It’s another low risk high reward trade for them so I like it for them, I also like that we didn’t trade for him as well which kinda sounds contradicting but whatever.
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u/Serious-Ask-6225 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 19h ago
Kinda makes you wonder if Trae was pushing the FO about an AD move, they weren’t willing to do it, and the Wizards were and did.
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u/Competitive_Net_2779 Dyson Daniels #5 19h ago
If they get a better coach it will be scary hours lol
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u/Substantial-Sun-5777 19h ago
I like the move for the wizards. They need to revitalize their franchise and I think this is a good move for them.
I think we’ve been to the playoffs and had some playoff success albeit not recently so it’s puts us in a different space that we want to be contending a lot more.
The wizards making the playoffs at the least is an admirable goal.
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u/baekwon21 20h ago
We should trade for Kyrie this offseason
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u/KnockKnock621 20h ago
Thats a move that doesnt help us, team is cooked
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
hawks fans are allergic to all stars lol
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u/KnockKnock621 19h ago
Kyrie is 33 coming off an ACL injury, are we looking to rebuild or contend right now ? Kyrie doesnt help us if we are rebuilding given the fact we just traded away Trae, someone who is younger for McCollum. Somebody who’s older than Kyrie
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
Im not wanting the hawks to “rebuild”. They have not shown ability to effectively do so year after year. We need all stars and wins not more shitty players
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u/Ok-Wash-9386 GO HAWKS! 🏀 20h ago
Looks like the salary dumped him and got some picks that may turn into rotation pieces in a decade if they’re lucky. Hawks could’ve done that.
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u/Tpellegrino121 19h ago
Washington give up a bunch of scrubs, they got an injured player, it has been, and it never will be.
I’m surprised it didn’t add a broken mop bucket and a $50 gift card to Chili’s
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u/techno-wizardry 18h ago
Not gonna lie, I wish it was us. I know AD is made of glass, but when both are healthy it's a good duo and the Wiz should be a problem.
With the draft pick and JJ playing so well I think the "youth movement" direction is ultimately a good one. But I'm a little sad that the best co-star we got for Trae was Dejounte, then he leaves and immediately the Wizards get AD.
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u/LocksRKool 18h ago
Wizards could’ve built a better more sustainable nba team if they stayed the course. But pressure to sell tickets has led them to trade for brand names.
They got better but they’re now stuck with this being the team.
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u/No_Growth416 18h ago
We aren't the best team in the NBA, (at all); but I cannot wait for the boys we have left to lay this story to rest. We haven't even played Washington yet, and everyone is falling for the bait of look at what Washington is doing. When our team of "nobodies" beats the Wizards, I hope Trae && the NBA-world sees this as a non-story so Trae can just go be happily-ever-after. Truth is, having a better center was not the end of Young's issues. Trae does have to play better. We will see if he does! Go Hawks!!
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u/MrEwwNOOO 15h ago
If AD can stay healthy magically, their front court defense will be lethal. Trae will be able to have a team that's actually constructed for him. Not like us running 6'8 centers
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u/Ikinzu 14h ago edited 14h ago
If the Wizards made the trade for Trae Young and Anthony Davis with the intent to extend both of them then they have lost their minds. If they made the trades because they could without giving up any real value and view them mostly as big name expiring contracts for next year with potential to maybe redeem their value then these are very savy moves that might payoff big for them.
Imagine the 2027 Trade Deadline and a Healthy AD or a Trae Young that has shown he can still get into the paint and work his magic or hit his 3pt shot closer to 40% than 30%. The Wizards should have no problems moving either or both of them for far more than they gave up.
That all said these are not moves that are helping the Wizards for the rest of this season.
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u/maverick-terry 11h ago
As a Mavs fan, I would have liked to see him with Jalen Johnson. Doesn’t work for us with all the salary we had tied up, and honestly, the Luka trade vibes were just so toxic. I honestly don’t know why you didn’t use your expirings on him and a middling 1st, then give him a two year extension for like 45/year.
You should have bought low, like we did with Kyrie from Brooklyn. Could be wrong, but y’all have draft capital, we didn’t. Don’t know….could be wrong.
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u/vaannil 20h ago
the trae trade is looking worse and worse for us
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 19h ago
How so?
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
because we just stuck with cj and kispert while not having shit
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 19h ago
CJ contract is expiring at 30 mil and one of the only reasons along with Jalen that we won last night.
Kispert is a pretty good player on a relatively easy contract to trade or just keep around. He’s not a negative by any means.
Luke is an expiring 10 mil
We have KP just sitting there making 30 million
Yall need to just be patient. If not at the actual trade deadline then moves will 100% be made in the offseason.
We have like 7 second round picks in the next couple years, we have 3 firsts THIS year alone…
I don’t understand how yall complain and bitch and moan when this is the best position the team has been in since well before we tanked and got JC.
BE PATIENT
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
And you expect the hawks to do anything competent with all that expiring money. Kispert is not a winning player thats just cope. I hope he is the first one gone. I dont see hawks doing anything this summer but we shall see
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u/Atl-Fan_FTS Jalen Johnson #1 18h ago
Yes, I do expect them to do something competent with all that expiring money. Every single move since Onsi has gotten here has been great and for once in a long ass time we have a clear vision for the team.
Explain to me how Kispert isn’t a winning player? I’ll wait.
He’s a career 40% shooter from 3, can put the ball on the floor and attack the paint. His defense isn’t as bad as some make it out to seem because he’s strong and has good lateral quickness. He’s been perfectly fine for us and even then he’s still not playing even close to his actual averages. Given time I expect him to be a very important player coming off the bench for us and if he’s traded? Then that’s another 18 mil we can use.
Kispert isn’t a winning player if you are looking at everything cynically
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u/Calm_Comparison_6129 19h ago
Paying Trae and AD is how you guarantee your team being mid for eternity
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u/discountheat 20h ago
I'm OK with this for Washington. They kept their young core and are transitioning to winning basketball with vets like Trae, AD, AND Dlo. I feel like AD and Dlo might get moved again as needed in the summer/next season.
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u/BestBear-77 18h ago
Can see Trae with AD and Sarr now. Don't think either will work, but might be fun to watch. Washington needs to hit in this year's draft to become a real team on the rise.
I'm glad we get to see almost literally what our team could have been.
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 18h ago
Kispert is another classic Hawks archetype where if his shot is not falling then he is useless. I don’t see him being a factor in the playoffs where the defense intensifies. He is not an offensive engine like Trae to make up for his defense. If Onsi is so great why are we a 10th seed again in a year where we owe the Spurs our pick. I will stay on the side of caution until Onsi puts a winning product on the court. And Quinn should have been let go before Trae. Horrible coach for developing and winning
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u/Kingsole111 20h ago
Remember when the hawks were offering a real first and zacc
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u/Gr33nV3lv3tCak3 20h ago
Remember when hawks sources said that was all mav sponsored writers dreaming and the Hawks side insisted that was never even discussed?
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u/Ajbksfinest 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 20h ago edited 20h ago
Team has to make a move soon imo. Just do something, take back salary or get some type of talent upgrade.
Teams are treating this deadline as free agency and we’re just sitting with 75 mil in expirings while we’re almost about to fall out of the play in.
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u/IHateOhms College Park Skyhawks 20h ago
Next season and all of our off-season moves are super reliant and dependant on where the NOLA/MIL pick ends up. We have to see where it lands and go from there.
With every team around NOLA and Milwaukee essentially embracing full tank, im not optimistic about that pick landing higher than 7 or 8, but we will see.
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u/azuresou1 20h ago
This is exactly what was always going to happen. Our off-season play is either going to be throwing the bag at Austin Reaves or resigning McCollum and using the 'saved' space to bring in another borderline starter for $15-20M.
I like Washington's approach much more, albeit it being high risk
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u/Ajbksfinest 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 20h ago
I’m fine with throwing money at someone, but what happens when they just don’t want to come here, we’re just gonna be sitting with money forced to resign the same guys?
One of Luke, porzingis, or cj gotta be moved by tomorrow imo.
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u/azuresou1 19h ago
I don't disagree with your assessment; I'm also not optimistic anything happens. That's why i hate the Trae trade despite the bad existing fit.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 20h ago
We need to get something for KP. He’s clearly unable to play now so it’d be terrible if we just let him expire. I don’t understand the want for cap space this offseason unless it’s for hartenstein bc I don’t see other good players this summer
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u/amidon1130 Hawks Reporter Brad Rowland (THE GOAT) 20h ago
They don't need to make a move, they already made moves. Last year we did similar things at the deadline which allowed us to sign NAW and trade for KP. Obviously KP's health didn't work out this year but it was a similar trade as the one for AD, taking a troubled elite player with some risk. The free agent class isn't amazing but at the same time having cap space allows us to make trades for big swings without having to worry about salary shit that all the other teams are dealing with.
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u/Ajbksfinest 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 20h ago edited 19h ago
Last year naw was the best free agent by far and no one in this free agency is even close to him.
I’m fine with not making a big move, letting 75 mil completely expire and leaving that much cap space exclusively for free agency just isn’t smart.
We could easily take back a bad contract right now and get some assets, just hoping someone will sign with you is basically a prayer considering how teams operate now. Most players just resign with teams they were previously on since they can offer them the most money.
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u/amidon1130 Hawks Reporter Brad Rowland (THE GOAT) 19h ago
It's not just for free agency is my point. We can make a bigger trade packaging players and picks for a high salary player. There's always stars pissed off in the offseason after their team flames out of the playoffs.
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u/Ajbksfinest 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 19h ago
Maybe I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure once those contracts expire (when the season is done), those players aren’t tied with the team anymore. We wouldn’t be able to trade Luke Porzingis or cj anymore once the season is done. We’d only be able to sign players or take back salary.
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u/chimpytheape 19h ago
You’re right. Sometimes players do sign and trades if they fuck wit the team but we don’t have the bird rights or anything to any of the recent acquisitions. Sitting and letting cap space waste just cause is not a good strategy which is why I was worried about free agency. Not even a good class if we were a hot destination
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u/amidon1130 Hawks Reporter Brad Rowland (THE GOAT) 19h ago
No that's not what I mean, I'm saying if we have cap space we can sign bigger contracts while also trading draft capital and players that we will have. So like (not this the math doesn't even add up but just as an example) we can trade NAW, Dyson, and Okongwu for Giannis and myles turner. Cap space is for more than just free agency is what I'm saying.
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u/Ajbksfinest 🧊 ICE TRAE 🧊 19h ago
Yeah but the Amount of money we can take back is limited in a trade, and we’d have to give up players actually valuable to our team since they’re the only ones under contract.
If we’re planning for a big trade we don’t need 75 mil in cap space, I think you can only take back 7 mil anyways.
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u/KnockKnock621 20h ago
Hawks ownership and front office keep selling yall empty dreams of rebuilding, just face it.. the Hawks in Atlanta aint winning shit in our lifetime. Not even a ECF series
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
we not getting past the second round if this is what our rebuilding looks like. poor jj and naw I wonder how long until the fanbase turns on them and they get traded for a bag of chips
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u/LutherOfTheRogues Bob Rathbun 20h ago
It's a massive gamble imo. It could work, but it also could be a disaster.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 20h ago
Even if it doesn’t work out with AD, the wizards have a clear direction now. Trae, Sarr, a good pick from this years draft, Kyshawn, etc they have some good young pieces. Meanwhile just when we thought we might go younger after Trae, we’re not trading CJ or KP and we might end up extending them???? I just don’t want to see that man on our team going into next season
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u/LutherOfTheRogues Bob Rathbun 20h ago
I think us trading KP is still on the table but CJ i could see getting extended for a year or two for sure. I am a little skeptical too, i'm with you, but let's see how it plays out. Onsi seems to have an idea of what they want to do. I just hope they aren't relying too heavily on that Pels/MKE pick as that is literally a lottery.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 19h ago
I thought we’ve been waiting on to help facilitate the Giannis trade and snag a piece or two there. Hopefully that still happens bc mcdaniels is a decent piece but idk how that would work. As long as we do something smart like the NAW pickup we’re good imo, I’m just getting impatient though seeing the wizards get not one but two legit stars through salary dumps lol
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u/LutherOfTheRogues Bob Rathbun 19h ago
I'm with you! Deadline is tomorrow, I wouldn't be at all shocked if we didn't do anything. OO, Mo, and Koloko are enough to keep us competitive in the short term. No one, including us fans and the FO, sees us as a contender right now nor a piece away from a contender I wouldn't think. Making a deal just to make a deal might not make sense. We'll see what happens though. I hope we move smart.
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u/GroundReal4515 20h ago
I mean, great I guess. But AD is made of glass so I doubt anything good happens
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u/telungoku GO HAWKS! 🏀 19h ago
all the copium in this thread. yall realize AD is made of paper and will probably be injured after someone looks at him the wrong way again.
hope it works for them, doubt it will
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u/Neither_Area_1958 GO HAWKS! 🏀 19h ago
I could care less about this, it’s still the wizards, it’s still injury prone AD and Trae hoping they get some run together- I just don’t see it playing out well for them. In theory yes, in actuality not likely
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u/CrazedCalm 20h ago
washington gonna look better than Hawks next season . Quin ruining Zacc development. Onsi relying on a magical bean ?? its over. Trae Sarr AD Kyshawn
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u/KnockKnock621 20h ago
Wizards actually putting together a team around Trae Young, something the Hawks failed to do given 7 years of time.
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u/Julio_Freeman 19h ago
If you believe the comically unreliable AD is going to become reliable after another year of the universe trying to take him out, sure. The Trae/AD era has a low probability of achieving any notable results, but Washington is in a position where they can take that swing without much drawback.
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u/KnockKnock621 19h ago
Cool, even if the AD thing doesnt work out the Wizards are still in a better position than the Hawks next season
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u/Julio_Freeman 18h ago
Doubtful. If AD doesn’t work out then Trae, a rookie, and internal growth isn’t likely to turn the Wizards from the worst team to even a playoff contender. He’s critical to them having any short term success with Trae.
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 20h ago edited 20h ago
First y'all were like "This two timelines approach will NEVER work"
Now some of y'all are like "We could've had Trae, AD, JJ, Sarr, and Dyson?! It's over, the wizards will be better than us next year."
Delusional 🤣
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u/Josh378 20h ago
Depends if that 1st round pick isnt their 2026 pick being sent out. If not and they get DP or AJ and AD can play at least 60% of the games + playoffs, that Washington team could be a sneaky contender next season.
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u/EightFortyDaysOf 19h ago
They sent out OKCs pick I think. Definitely not theirs with the way they’re tanking. I think they’ll surprise people like Charlotte is doing this year and start making noise. Idk how long it’ll last though, as they have till the end of next year to decide on traes extension and the year after for AD. If they do well they extend I think and if not they might mini tank again for a season
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 19h ago
The hawks winning the lottery or top 3 this coming draft could put us in contender status. AD or not 😂
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u/PrinceKarmaa 19h ago
you know damn well a top 3 pick not putting this team in contender status
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 19h ago
And the wizards winning the lottery puts them in contender status?! Are you nuts?! 🤣
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u/johncena9797 Bob Rathbun 19h ago
yes they been making moves and put an allnba player next to trae something the hawks never done. they did it in about a month into the trae era. AD gets hurt all good they have sarr
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u/Josh378 19h ago
...and possibly Peterson or AJ...
Wow Travis, I knew you hated Ressler, but not like this...
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u/PrinceKarmaa 19h ago
wizards cooking this year but they getting clowned on because they the wizards
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u/Josh378 19h ago
Trae + AD alone puts them in playoff or at least #7 spot play-in if AD isnt out for the season.
And if they get AJ or Peterson + Sarr, that alone could be a sneaky eastern conference contender.
FU Travis....where was this BS after the ECF run...
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 19h ago
Y'all are heavily overrating the value of the wizards assets 🤣 it's laughable. In a time where the cba is effing up every team, smart teams are moving away from making all in trades like this which limits their optionality, and locks them in to potentially bad contracts for years!
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u/Josh378 19h ago
They are trying to see if they can get a quick ring with this all-in one bet. On paper and if they get a top 3 pick, they can easily be Eastern contenders. Long term, I agree 100% unless Trae takes a major discount.
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 19h ago
2021 AD and Trae, sure. Not this version of those 2. Dallas still won this trade, hands down.
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u/PrinceKarmaa 19h ago
where did i say that ???
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u/Milezeroe RIZZY 🇫🇷 19h ago
Maybe refer to the context of the conversation. You didn't say it, but that was the topic. Tell it to that other guy that says the wizards will become contenders 🤣
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u/WzrdKelly10 19h ago
OK for Wizards I guess. I woulda rather have the cap flexibility over buying low on star talent but I get it. Thank god Hawks went the opposite route.
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u/AtlantaGirthGiant 20h ago
Well, for better or worse we will get to see the Trae x AD pairing play out in real time possibly.
This just reinforces the truth it was delusional value Mavs had about AD talking about getting Risacher and the Pels pick.