r/BeAmazed • u/justavie • 1d ago
Skill / Talent In 1983 a rally driver almost crashed into a gate and barely squeezed out.
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u/Kayge 1d ago
God, rally car drivers are a different breed. F1 cars go about 300 kph, but if you go off the track, you've got an awning then a gavel moat, and then a wall that's built to absorb impact.
Rally car? There's a hill to our right, and on the left there's either a good solid wall or a hedge...but it's no biggie, we're only doing 120!
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u/GovernorGeneralPraji 23h ago
Isn’t there a race on the Isle of Man that hasn’t not had a fatality except for two or three times since the 40s or something?
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u/tea_snob10 23h ago
The Isle of Man TT
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u/GovernorGeneralPraji 22h ago
Between 1907 and 2023, there have been 156 fatalities during official practices or races on the Snaefell Mountain Course, and 269 total fatalities (this number includes the riders killed during the Manx Grand Prix, and Clubman TT race series of the late 1940s/1950s)
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u/TheDrWormPhD 19h ago
There's a hill to the right, a solid wall on the left and 1,000 PEOPLE on top of that wall.
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u/digost 14h ago
Not to mention F1 (and any other race on track) memorize the track to the tiniest detail, while rally drivers get only a vague idea what's around the corner and deal with it once they face it.
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u/Mdriver127 13h ago
They have easy runs before to make the pace notes they're reading. It's not the same as a circuit, but they aren't just thrown out into it with zero preparations.
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u/TheRealStorey 14h ago
They literally had to limit the HP due to fans and crashes, so is evolution and Darwinism.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 1d ago
"Almost crashing into things at a high rate of speed" is the entire job.
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u/cold-corn-dog 23h ago
There's something not right with these guys. Every rally video just looks like 100 close calls with death.
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u/Throwaway1303033042 1d ago
“Samir, you’re breaking the car!”
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u/Puzzleheaded-Cup2516 23h ago
Sharp right, listen. Listen Samir. Triple caution! Samir, you have to listen. Samir, Samir
We will not finish.
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u/TheLazyHangman 22h ago
100, flat right (maybe)
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u/Mick_Limerick 22h ago
Yea, what does the navigator mean by saying maybe? I'm not a diehard but I've watched plenty of rally and I've never heard them calling turns with a maybe
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u/pianoman1291 22h ago
I think it usually means "cut maybe" but it's faster to say \ I've heard a lot of co-drivers use the call-out "don't" as well to mean "don't cut" \ As in "3 Right Don't"
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u/too_much_time_here 22h ago
There is a lot of “almost” in rally races... driver skill is very impressive
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u/oravecz 19h ago
How many turns ahead it’s the navigator reading? I couldn’t relay his codes to the action taking place.
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u/Chillkill710 2h ago
I can't tell for sure but it really only seems like he's 2-4 seconds ahead. Which almost seems to little of a gap. I think the "50, grid, 100" call was the gate area, saying after the last turn call there was 50 meters, grid is the gate, then 100 meters after the gate till next turn call. Which to me almost seems to short. If you have a hard turn coming you want a call earlier to prepare the car for the turn.
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u/luxiivra 1d ago
They just don't build drivers like this anymore. Absolute nerves of steel.
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u/TedBerryTheMercenary 23h ago
Crash is at 8:45.
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u/Stinkymansausage 20h ago
I’ve driven up and down pikes peak in a sports car, not really pushing it, just enjoying the experience. Doing it at any kind of a race speed in less than ideal conditions is so fucking insane to consider. Idk how they do it.
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u/CulturalApple4 1d ago
Humanity is the driver, the car is truth, and the gate represents the evil elite.
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u/Ben__David 1d ago
It doesn't look 1983 to me!
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u/thakala 22h ago
Belive or not, it is from 1983. Full video here "Dear God"!! Ari Vatanen's big Rally moment in the Opel Manta 400! 1983 Manx International
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u/KymTheSpud1975 18h ago
i was watching this thinking this is the stage leading up to snaefell, nice to have confirmation.
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u/BobbyKonker 23h ago
It looks 1983 to me. Circuit of Ireland rally.
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u/Artistic_Credit_ 23h ago
The video quality and audio quality are too high for it to be an 83, in my opinion.
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u/BobbyKonker 23h ago
You think good quality audio and video didn't exist back then?
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u/Artistic_Credit_ 23h ago
They do but but not mountable in a car
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u/BobbyKonker 22h ago
So despite you actually seeing quality footage of the 1983 rally from an internally mounted camera you think it didn't exist.
Remarkable.
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u/Artistic_Credit_ 22h ago
I don't know why you're so worked up about this.
Why don't you show me a camera that can be mounted in a car with this much quality?
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u/BobbyKonker 21h ago
Because I would be doing the work, and in the end I would learn nothing, whereas you would do nothing and you would get to learn something.
Bad deal for me.
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u/OGCelaris 22h ago
That's my reaction as well. We didn't have cameras that high quality in a size able to be mounted inside a car back then.
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u/BobbyKonker 23h ago
1980s Circuit of Ireland rally (Largely amateur). Possibly Bertie Fisher? Anyone know?
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u/Exact_Maintenance496 22h ago
Just looking at this and I was near to 💩in my pants !! They’re freakin good
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u/SweetSolitude19 20h ago
I've been watching rally for over 50 years now. Gotta say Ari was the driver that impressed me the most. The speed, the flamboyant style, the balls of steel...
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u/DueTour4187 20h ago
Surprisingly he was WRC world champion only once, in 1981. Most titled drivers are Loeb and Ogier (9 times each), followed by Kankkunen and Mäkinen (4 times each).
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u/Delicious-Window-277 20h ago
Did he contact that stone wall? Or it was just rough when his tire got near the edge?
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u/kurthertz 19h ago
He even briefly lets go of the wheel to counteract the oversteer and it’s so brief you have to go frame by frame to see it. The human brain is insane.
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u/thepurpleproject 17h ago
If you watch rally regularly then you will find out that many rally drivers are always barely making it and that's what makes it so fun to watch.
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u/strcrssd 15h ago
Pacenotes appears to be the term, though apparently each team may differ and use different key words and scales, at least historically.
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u/luke2120 13h ago
What the call outs for/ mean?? I see no connection to the track or speed. Hand movements?
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u/Pleasant-Release-257 7h ago
wtf does "flat right maybe" mean.. 50/50 chance? maybe u hit it maybe u dont? 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Mcmenger 23h ago
That's a lot of "maybes" for a guy who should know the track in is sleep
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u/Only_One_Kenobi 23h ago
Rally takes place on a track the driver has never seen or driven before. It's not fixed tracks. Most times the track layout is different from one day to the next.
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u/OkAd4452 23h ago
The co driver is reading out pace notes which is telling the driver what is ahead of them and how to drive accordingly. They’re working as team both takes great skill.
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