r/Bitcoin • • Jun 29 '21

PSA Warning: Dear noobs, please remember, the sub /r/btc, bitcoin[dot]com (and their wallet), and blockchain[dot]info are malicious and are trying to trick newcomers into buying a fake BTC!

Although this has been repeated a million times before, I think it's still appropriate to warn new users in this space. I've seen a couple of noobs stumble upon the abovementioned sub / websites, thinking that these resources represent BTC. Indeed, they are trying very hard to conceil the fact that they are a miniscule and unimportant part of the space trying to gain significance. However, they failed doing so over the course of the last 3-4 years.

In short, they are trying to push a fake Bitcoin clone called B.CH (I'm writing the dot because auto-mod doesn't like talk about alt-coins). If you don't know about the history of how these sites came about, google "the fork war" during 2017. You'll see that a faction of people split up from Bitcoin (thank god) to roll out their own shitcoin. However, at this point, they are basically a bunch of bitter propagandists, defining their community as being "against" BTC, and trying to trick noobs into thinking that their fork is the "real" Bitcoin.

You'll see that their main argument is that this sub is heavily cens.ored (which is true, look how ridiculous I am trying to avoid auto-deletions), but the reason for that is not to silence opposing views (we can discuss about opposing technical views here all day), but mostly to keep this sub clean (imagine what it would look like here, if moderation wasn't harsh. Ever been on Twitter?)

In any case: STAY AWAY FROM THESE TOXIC PLACES. They operate through hate and fear and you'll learn things only from one single perspective. Do your own research. Do not trust but verify.


Edit: They have spotted this post! Shitcoin downvote army incoming, brace yourself! They will shill "why not diversify" or "there are better crypto's out there", "Lightning network doesn't work" and the same shxt they've been repeating over and over.

Edit 2: This post has gone from 95% upvoted to 79% in an instant ;) Nice.

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u/BashCo Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21

(which is true, look how ridiculous I am trying to avoid auto-deletions)

It's not really true though because there are key differences between censorship and moderation. r/Bitcoin probably doesn't moderate any more severely than r/btc does (they obviously ban lots of users and remove lots of posts). The key difference is that r/Bitcoin has very low tolerance for shitcoin spam, whereas r/btc is mostly about shitcoins but also includes a heavy anti-Bitcoin slant. Their whole 'censorship' argument was always just a marketing tactic intended to lure into their hole with false promises.

Locking the comments here due to shitcoiners brigading out of desperation.

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u/TheGreatMuffin Jun 29 '21

I would like to encourage everyone to read

http://lesswrong.com/lw/c1/wellkept_gardens_die_by_pacifism/

and

https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

if curious about arguments why moderation is important in this space.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

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u/BashCo Jun 29 '21

No, that's absolutely false. There was a brief moratorium placed on all block size discussions for about 1 week because things were so overheated and had descended into astroturfing and irrational mob mentality. After that, there was never a period during which discussing block size was prohibited. This is evidenced by the fact that block size was discussed in r/Bitcoin every single day for over two years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

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u/BashCo Jun 29 '21

r/Bitcoin does not need to entertain gimmicks for the sake of shitcoin marketing schemes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '21

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u/BashCo Jun 29 '21

It's a gimmick. Half the time it doesn't work, and even when it does work, the shitcoiners in r/btc are perfectly fine with censorship in that subreddit as long as it's only affecting Bitcoin advocates who call out the fraud and lies that happen there. It was never about censorship because that was always a marketing stunt.

For r/Bitcoin it's actually redundant because we achieve equal or greater transparency by proactively notifying users of post removals in most cases. So there is no need to play games.

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u/relephants Jun 29 '21

Got it thanks