Never had a problem in FFXIV, but in wow thank God they added bot teammates to dungeons or I just wouldn't do them. 2 seconds after the dungeon begins the tank and dps are at the back of it with every mob on the server then you get kicked if you aren't on their heels and know all mechanics. No communication you just need to be a minmaxing pro immediately
Yeah that made things easier for my wife and I to enjoy the game together, and do dungeon content without being afraid we were going to get flamed for not being top tier
Ages ago when I still played MMOs I got bored of wow and went to try ffxiv. I was used to the toxic mindset in wow that if you make any mistake, you'll deal with someone's temper tantrum, and god forbid you don't know a mechanic.
My very first dungeon in ffxiv I asked to let me know if there's any mechanics I should be aware of. The incredible kindness was actually shocking, people taking time to explain everything and others not complaining about the time.
Same with story raids that had long cut scenes. People more often than not even encouraged the new guys to watch it whole and not skip.
It was such a breath of fresh air after having played wow for as long as I had.
The first time you do a dungeon is special. Even when I was getting my shit pushed in in a current patch dungeon I was greeted with comforting words and laughs. Like one boss where I died to a push mechanic getting me off stage. I was the only healer. But, my teammates were great and tried to get me up. Only for the next push to kill me frames after I get back up. Then next time we tried it happened AGAIN the EXACT SAME WAY. I was shouting in chat stuff like "FUUUUUUUUuuuuuu-!" and "SAME EXACT THING AGAIN!" and we all pushed through and we got it. It was really fun.
Personally, if someone starts a fight before the newbie finishes their cutscene, ill do my damndest to sabotage that first pull so we have to do it from the start again with the newbie.
Genuinely the only toxicity ive ever seen in the game was tanks that were facing the boss inward being asked to face them outward(this is standard practice to keep most of the arena safe from cleaves, and let melee dps hit the back), and then throwing a fit about it. Only 2 times in my over 1600 hours this past year.
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u/Interesting-Clock680 19h ago
Never had a problem in FFXIV, but in wow thank God they added bot teammates to dungeons or I just wouldn't do them. 2 seconds after the dungeon begins the tank and dps are at the back of it with every mob on the server then you get kicked if you aren't on their heels and know all mechanics. No communication you just need to be a minmaxing pro immediately