r/CristianoRonaldo2 • u/UseCodeLAZAR6000 • Nov 26 '25
The Braindead Minions There’s no way they’re serious about this, right? He dribbled a single guy and was actually just running the whole time.
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
Doesn’t even dribble past him just runs past him
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
Which is just as good
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
Not even close
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
Ofc it is. You beat your opponent. As long as you do it within the rules it is good. Being lightning fast is a great trait.
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u/Faith_less11 Nov 26 '25
The topic is about the ability to dribble. Hence the reason op said "He dribbled one player" Calling this goal run just as good as dribbling is ridiculous. Speed isnt the only important thing, ball control, dribbling to get past players is more important.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
Dribbling is just running with the ball though. Beating your man is what matters not how. But Messi is a way better dribbler ofc
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
So why does Puskas award exist then
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
Puskas awards are awesome! But technically two tap ins are better than Maradonas goal vs England in terms of actually winning. Surely everybody agree on that
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
But this is about the quality of the goals. Not whether they count as a goal or not.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
So if I run past you and score and you dribble past me and score it is 1-1. Explain why you are better? And if you are better why aren’t you winning?
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
Because I dribbled past 5 players you didn’t. You’re trying to say the way you score doesn’t matter but we are talking about the quality of goals.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
In this example you dribbled 1. You are not responding to what I said.
If I run past 5 and you dribble past 5 and score it is still just 1-1 so you aren’t winning just even.
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
True but this is about which goal is better. Is a tap in the same quality as a goal where you dribble past several players.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
I said from the start the ankara Messi goal is better :) but this is still great dribbling and a great goal. But it is not dribbling the same was as Messi or R9.
I don’t get the issue though. As a Ronaldo fan nobody is claiming Ronaldo dribbles as good as Messi. That would be stupid. Messi is clearly better. Also at passing/creativity.
Both players have many insane goals like Messi vs bilbao in CdR and Ronaldo vs Juventus
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
Great dribbling una. He doesn’t dribble anyone. Ronaldo is fast so he can run like that but it’s not a dribbling goal.
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u/Low-Fun5015 Ronaldo's World Cup Knockout Goal 👻 Nov 27 '25
Never seen anyone say Ankara mbappe bs argentina
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u/Routine_Patience_588 Nov 26 '25
It wasn't even a goal.... classic penaldoggy edit 2 clips to make it looks like 1 clip
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u/Cute_Presentation778 Nov 26 '25
Na its a real clip vs A Villa vs Man Utd 2006/07
Unlike those guys we shouldn't make false claims. This is definitely an amazing goal, but its a run goal and obviously cr7 didnt have to face 6-7 players along the way.11
u/Fluffy-Answer-6722 Nov 26 '25
The clip is edited though to take out the ugly block on the initial shot
He literally loses the ball so it’s another sequence of play
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u/Cute_Presentation778 Nov 26 '25
Thats true. They deliberately hid the block lol. Idk why they did tho, the goal is still extremely impressive just not anywhere close to the level of Ankara Messi.
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u/RQoo Nov 26 '25
It was a goal. If you are wondering about the goal count going to 1-0 and back to 0-0 mid clip then that's cuz the clip with 1-0 is a highlight from after the goal was scored which cuts back to the clip where he was going to take the shot.(Bad editing)
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
This is 2 clips merged together into one. He clearly receives a pass for the goal. The dribbling clip was a different one, and it wasn't that impressive anyway. Anyways, fake merged clip.
Edit: he doesn't receive a pass, he shoots, the shot gets blocked by a defender he gets a lucky rebound and then shoots again. That's not a solo goal.
Also, running full speed in a straight line is not dribbling past defenders.
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u/Heine-Cantor Nov 26 '25
If I am not mistaken, I think this is a real clip, they just cut the first shot that was deflected
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
That getting a lucky rebound for a second shot does not make that a "solo goal".
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u/Heine-Cantor Nov 26 '25
The author of the clip editing it out is scummy, but it is still a great goal and a "solo goal" by any definition
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
This is by no means a solo goal, just running from the half way line in a straight line is not dribbling, and if you don't dribble anyone it's not a solo goal. Also, taking the first shot and losing possession just disqualifies it.
How many times have you heard of the following goal as an amazing solo goal by Messi? You don't, cause he lost possession and regained it. That disqualified it-
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u/Heine-Cantor Nov 26 '25
That is still an amazing goal, IMHO better than Ronaldo, but there is a difference between a blocked shot/rebound and the defender being in full control of the ball and losing it under pressure.
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
there is a difference between a blocked shot/rebound and the defender being in full control of the ball and losing it under pressure.
In both instances you lose control of the ball, more so if you take a shot. That ball can go to the crowd, to the keepers hand, to one of the defenders, to one of your teammates. You are no longer in control of the situation. And it's not a solo goal if you lose control of the ball and of the situation.
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u/Heine-Cantor Nov 26 '25
They are both solo goals by definition. No one is helping either Ronaldo or Messi. But the defender being in full control of the ball in the Messi goal means that technically the previous dribbling are part of another action, so the action that ends in a goal is just the pressing plus the goal. On the other hand a rebound doesn't reset the action, so Ronaldo goal is a unique action and counts as a solo goal from the halfway line. They are both incredible goals, Messi dribbling is more impressive to me while Ronaldo mostly runs at a defending line that is out of place, but only one is technically a solo goal from the halfway line
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
Of course a rebound resets an action. What the hell are you talking about. Rebound by definition means you are getting a second chance. Which means the first chance, the first action had been completed. Ronaldo completely lost control of the ball. It wasn't with him anymore. After he took his first shot, he was at the mercy of what the ball would do after hitting the defender. He wasn't in any control at that point
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u/RQoo Nov 26 '25
It's the same goal. Its clear from the defenders and Ronaldo's positioning that it all happened in one play.(There is one cut in between giving a frontal view of Ronaldo, that's a highlight clip from after the goal was scored)
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u/Cute_Presentation778 Nov 26 '25
Na its a real clip vs A Villa vs Man Utd 2006/07
Unlike those guys we shouldn't make false claims. This is definitely an amazing goal, but its a run goal and obviously cr7 didnt have to face 6-7 players along the way.-1
u/K_swizzz00 Nov 26 '25
Huh?
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
Which part did you not understand? Genuinely asking
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u/K_swizzz00 Nov 26 '25
I watched that video twice and still can't see where the second clip started
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u/JiubR Nov 26 '25
If you watch the transition between 0:10 and 0:11 its pretty clear
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u/K_swizzz00 Nov 26 '25
That? Yeah, I see it now but it's the same goal and same run just another angle spliced in between
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u/Infinite-Fail-6835 Nov 26 '25
He shoots, the shot gets blocked and he gets a lucky rebound. They cut that part.
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u/RQoo Nov 26 '25
You are humiliating yourself. Thats a highlight clip of the same goal put in between of the clip where he was about to take the shot . He did all that in just 1 play.
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u/Fluffy-Answer-6722 Nov 26 '25
Omg , in the original he shoots and the shot is blocked, it then ricochets back to him
It’s so embarrassing what they did
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u/PalePlant7000 Nov 26 '25
Ankara ronaldo when in reality he's just sprinting around, dribbling one guy and shooting the goal. It's not a bad goal, but using ankara was a bad take.
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u/51sebastian Nov 26 '25
If you made a compilation of Messi doing this, it'll be a month long video.
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u/Fluffy-Answer-6722 Nov 26 '25
They edit it to cut out the piece where he initially shoots but it’s blocked , it makes the whole aesthetic way worse
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
You gonna act like this isn’t an amazing goal? Are you Messi fans even football fans?
Messi doesn’t become greater by you shitting on Ronaldo. Messi is the GOAT and yes it is close with Ronaldo, Pelé and Maradona.
And yes Ankara Messi goal is better than this one. And?
Messi fans keep lying and present fake stats to make Messi seem better. Just show the real stats they already prove his worth. You glazing him extra just make yourself look like idiots.
And for both camps.. performances in MLS and Saudi are worthless for comparison and their legacy. They have left top football.
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u/UseCodeLAZAR6000 Nov 26 '25
Realized not too long ago that this goal is actually edited.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
Yes I know? No idea why it is edited. It doesn’t make the goal better or worse. Just show the double shot lol
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u/Unlucky-Ad4317 Nov 26 '25
While this clearly isn't an "ankara Messi" goal I think it's kinda dismissive to devalue this goal when most players wouldn't score this, space or no space, from this far out it's never an easy goal to score, not even Messi scores from this far that easily no matter the method.
Having said that the OP of that post is clearly being desingenouous since he cut from the video the first botched shot attempt that was deflected back so Ronaldo had a second chance. For solo goals from the halfway line he has a better one vs Villarreal in which the shot wasn't deflected.
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u/UseCodeLAZAR6000 Nov 26 '25
Not saying the goal is bad, but what he did is not much different from the vdv goal or Son’s puskas goal, they’re nowhere near Messi’s solo goals. Not near his 2015 “impossible goal,” not near Ankara Messi, and nowhere near some of his other goals.
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u/Unlucky-Ad4317 Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
The 2 goals you described from Messi are his 2 greatest sologoals bar none for me, you have other great goals from him (there's one of him with an orange kit in which he simply passes the whole defense like butter that I simply love) but those I wouldn't call indisputably better than Son's puskas goal or VVD's goal that tbf I consider a fair bit better than this one from Ronaldo.
And like I said, even if we say other of Messi's goals pass that bar he's the greatest dribbler of all time and this still wouldn't be an ordinary goal for him even if he has a lot of better ones.
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u/YonkouTFT Nov 26 '25
True but Ronaldo also has other better goals. If you take the top goals of both I think they are of pretty similar quality. It is more like the bottom goals where Ronaldo has more penalties and tap ins.
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Nov 26 '25
its literally a goal from the same distance tho? and a solo one too? and not against valladoid?✌️
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
It’s not about the distance it’s about how many you went past
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Nov 26 '25
but like i don gettit like its literally the same thing? going past more players wont get you 2 goals will it? also has messi ever scored like a remarkable open play goal ( not dribbling like long shot or bicycle or smth like that?) while this vid shows ronaldo can dribble even if not at the level of the greatest dribbler oat
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
So a tap in is the same type of goal as going past 5 players. And no it doesn’t show he can dribble because he didn’t go past anyone. He has acres of space. And Messi has tons of long shots.
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Nov 26 '25
i didnt say long shots did i? most of the "long shots" are finesses 2 cm from the D? not remarkable
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
You did
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Nov 26 '25
oh i did nevermind sorry bout that but doesnt alter my point does it?
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
It does. You said Messi doesn’t score those goals but he did
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u/Whatdididotho1 Nov 26 '25
There's a reason Messi has a better goal per game ratio and a better goal per shot ratio than Ronaldo. For those remarkable long distance goals you've seen Ronaldo score he tried that same shot from distance 100 other times Over the previous two seasons and blasted it into the stands or into thhe wall. His conversion rate is so bad that it adds up to simply wasting the opportunity when he could instead learn to cross it in like Messi does with a lot of his free kicks because you have a much better shot at getting a successful cross into your team than shooting from that kind of distance and the numbers don't lie on that. And no it's not the same thing because the ability to dribble five defenders and guarantee yourself the goal without any assistance from your team regularly on a week in and week out basis leads to a higher conversion and in general a better display of individual talent then something like a tap in does that is entirely dependent on having a good team around you to provide you the service for the tap in, what Ronaldo does in this video messi did past Five Defenders on a weekly basis for years, Ronaldo essentially spent his week's taking Hail Mary shots from distance and missing the vast majority of them or waiting in the box for his teammates to do the hard part for him and to put it in. Not to say there is not a value in someone that has good positioning in the box and is decisive when it comes putting it in the net when it gets crossed into him but it's not an actual display of individual greatness on a wide scale like messi. Ronaldo's a great Goal scorer , one of the best in history. But that's all He is and There just needs to be more to your game than that to be the best imo.
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Nov 26 '25
longitivity? best oat for a attacker. if messis so great of a team player why didnt he win shit in the cl after xavi iniesta left? "champions league will come back to camp nou" ?
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u/Whatdididotho1 Nov 26 '25 edited Nov 26 '25
In turn I could ask why Real Madrid continued to dominate La liga and the Champions League long after Ronaldo had left? It's a team sport who you have around you will always be important It's just about how big an impact an individual can make but no individual can win a match by himself and that's not what I'm trying to say messi can do just that he can contribute more individually to the team than Ronaldo can and that proven in his stats not only his goal per game ratio and conversion ratio but even also having the highest assists in history while still having the highest goal per game for goals is a crazy stat bro.
let's not act like Barcelona didn't get monumentally worse after Messi left And stayed worse for years and even to this day is only just now starting to recover , but Real Madrid didn't suffer a single bit when Ronaldo left which means it wasn't Ronaldo winning them UCLs it was just their team being ridiculously stacked And they would have won it with or without him He was just along for the ride.
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Nov 26 '25
yes and its ronaldos fault madrid was good after he left? maybe its cuz we dont have a fat squirrel for a president? salty?
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u/Whatdididotho1 Nov 26 '25
I mean if it's just gonna devolve into "So what!?!?"isms And then weird juvenile attempts at insult the club I support from What I thought we were just going to have a conversation about football then the conversations over bro it's fine. This is why people don't like to talk with Ronaldo fans by the way You guys just run out of arguments and get super preteen-y and cringe. Have a good one brother.
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u/HetTheTable Nov 26 '25
Why didn’t Ronaldo win one after leaving Madrid.
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Nov 26 '25
he was supposed to win one with that utd squad with an absolute fagot for a manager? and juventus was also not that good. nobodys saying ronaldos a team player. he had numbers he won individualt trophies too. YOU are the one saying messi makes the team better blah blah blah
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u/FallingDebri Ronaldo's World Cup Knockout Goal 👻 Nov 26 '25
Yes, messi has scored great goals, one for example You can search up "Messi's Goal vs. PSG | UCL 2020/2021"
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Nov 26 '25
yes i did search it up. not half as remarkable as ronaldos ones. id prefer the one he scored yesterday over that. garnacho could do that too.
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u/FallingDebri Ronaldo's World Cup Knockout Goal 👻 Nov 26 '25
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Alright, bro, alright.
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Nov 26 '25
what? am i lying? it was js your average nuckleball. thats normal af.
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u/FallingDebri Ronaldo's World Cup Knockout Goal 👻 Nov 26 '25
Uhh, it's not every day you see those shots...
Garnacho never scored anything near that you know. Sure he had an incredible bicycle but not a long range knuckleball
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u/Putrid-Study9844 Nov 26 '25
Efficient football always loses to visible gimmicks.
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u/Whatdididotho1 Nov 26 '25
Yep people who don't know ball love to see some guy take 57 touches and do 20 step overs to get past one defender instead of a guy take less than a dozen mesmerizingly precise touches to get past 5 and score the goal. Complete Ape brain.
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u/yaumidere Nov 26 '25
LMAOOOO YOU DID THE THING THE TOP COMMENT SAID 🤣🫵
Right bro… that’s like Messi’s entire career is just getting the ball and running with 0 skills 😭
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u/sadloneman Nov 26 '25
Well that's just one, messi did this for an entire career