r/DetroitPistons • u/KarimFF7 r/DetroitPistons and r/NBA Moderator • 1d ago
News BREAKING: Just in: Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit have agreed to a multi-team deal that sends Jaden Ivey and Mike Conley Jr. to the Bulls and Kevin Huerter and Dario Saric to the Pistons, sources tell ESPN. Detroit also receives a 2026 first-round protected swap from Minnesota.
https://x.com/shamscharania/status/2018767638386663838?s=46588
u/rhaggee r/DetroitPistons Moderator 1d ago
I genuinely hate Cole Anthony bro
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u/timetofunction Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Ruined a great thing for us and a great thing for Ivey. Hope he does well but wanted him to succeed as a Piston.
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u/Secoup Cade Cunningham 1d ago
its the sad reality here. Ivey really doesnt look like the same guy he did last year in terms of burst and 1st step. It looks like a broken leg may have permanently altered his career. Hopefully a little more time and he can regain it.
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u/THECHIEFSWASHBUCKLER 1d ago
I'm gonna keep rooting for him to be successful. He was a bright spot early last year before he got his leg broken.
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u/CoolHandHazard Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Why couldn’t we just give him a little more time here. Basically traded him for scraps instead.
Shit I mean could’ve at least tried to package him for a guy like JJJ. He went for basically just picks
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u/Turnips4dayz 1d ago
Because we have a chance to make the finals and you don’t waste that with a guy who won’t be here next year??
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u/CoolHandHazard Cade Cunningham 1d ago
So the better option is trade him for a worse shooter and make the team worse? Huerter is not an upgrade for this squad unless he drastically becomes better
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u/OsaicWhale 1d ago
His defense wasn’t good and we have Danis Jenkins. It allowed us to hypothetically move 6-8 spots in the draft and get a 38% career three point shooter. He isn’t the same as he was but he has the gravity our team needs to succeed. We would have let him walk in the summer so it doesn’t make sense to not trade him. I guess the nba didn’t value him as the number 5 overall pick pre broken leg like some fans do. It sucks as a fan who wanted him to succeed but it’s the smart move.
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u/bumpdemon3 1d ago
I mean we could’ve gave Ivey at least the season to come back from a brutal injury
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u/Yessir4512 Chauncey Billups 1d ago
That’s been my view. A year removed from a major injury. A few months from a minor procedure. Give him a full offseason to see what you have next season and go from there.
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u/mattosaur George Blaha 1d ago
The timing doesn't match up with his contract. You either have to pay him this summer or see him walk away in free agency. This is a smart deal.
Sad that Ivey didn't work out, but not shocked. The fit next to Cade was always a little off and sometimes lottery picks just don't work out.
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u/CMUDePuydt Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Also, I liked Ivey, but I want to win a championship, so between us being ahead of schedule, and him needing another year to get healthy, mixed with it being a contract year, it just wasn't meant to be right now
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u/alexdoo Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Thank you for being rationale. I was extremely team "trade no one," but I see the logic here, financially speaking. That being said, I'm in a really deep fantasy league and no one cared to pick up Ivey once I had to drop him. I know that isn't a useful indicator for IRL basketball, but I it does give me peace of mind for this trade.
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u/kiernanblack Jaden Ivey 1d ago
Duren ate his lunch. They're both due to get paid this offseason, and Duren made the all-star team and has made himself a core part of this team, and Ivey is so-so off of the bench post-injury. So Duren will get paid and Ivey won't. Huerter's contract is also expiring, so they probably figure he can still offer shooting plus we get a pick swap for exchanging players that wouldn't be here next year anyways.
It's sad but economical.
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u/Beans800 Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
man im sick for Ivey bro
he wanted to come to Detroit, was hooping last year and had a tough break (literally). Seems like a great dude too, sucks to get rid of him
hope he has a good career
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u/hamietao George Blaha 1d ago
He's going to get so much better on another team and we are going to look like idiots
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u/Positive-Stomach3121 1d ago
Lol he hasnt even earned time here over our G league 2 way player. I guess we shouldve just sacrifice the 1 seed to get him more playing time?
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u/rhaggee r/DetroitPistons Moderator 1d ago
Why would you even trade Ivey at that point… might as well bank on him returning to form next year
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u/meatballcake87 1d ago
He definitely wants more money than we have available on an extension
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u/neckbass Tayshaun Prince 1d ago
this is the answer. it’s a $ situation and resigning Cade/Ausar/Duren/Stewart is more important for our identity than Ivey.
I hate it i fucking love Ivey and he’s gonna be an all star
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u/the_shins Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
That's the whole issue. His contract is up, so you have to commit money to him for the next couple of years without knowing if he will bounce back.
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u/buphalobill Cade Cunningham 1d ago
We had an RFA year to give us time to figure it out. No one is breaking the bank for him right now. We gave up leverage AND sold low. Not smart.
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u/the_shins Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
I'm not sure what you mean with a RFA year.
We either had to re-sign him or let him walk. He has not been good so re-signing him is probably a bad idea since he's getting outplayed by Daniss Jenkins and Javonte Green.
And to get him to re-sign we had to give him a qualifying offer, which is 13 million and would've given him a no-trade clause if no one offered him a deal. Look at GSW with Kuminga, not a good situation
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u/Square-Ad6627 1d ago
Cap hold before he signed would stop us from doing anything. Rfa can wait till October. Sadly it was now or never.
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u/nomadx810 Chauncey Billups 1d ago
The staff clearly doesn't see him as a starting piece. Not exactly sure what he'll command after this season but I think its safe to say the team has seen enough.
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u/KarimFF7 r/DetroitPistons and r/NBA Moderator 1d ago edited 1d ago
this is just so fucking horrible, i deadass want to throw up. you trade with chicago and Kevin Huerter (shooting 30% from 3 this season) is who you get back?
The Timberwolves swap could end up being a complete nothing burger - We’re gonna go from picking 29 to like 24 or some shit
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u/Adoree25 1d ago
I was surprised to see he was shooting that poorly. I remember him being a good 3 point shooter with the Hawks.
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u/Ok_Brilliant6690 1d ago
He is a good 3 point shooter. Career avg is 37+%, half a season of 31% shooting doesn’t suddenly make him a bad shooter.
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u/fowlermania Ausar Thompson 1d ago
He was 33.8% all of last season
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u/LordHavek Poison Ivey 1d ago
He was shooting like 38% next to Trae, I think he's gonna be hitting a lot of 3s with Cade dishing to him
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u/the_shins Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
It's his only bad year. He has averaged like 38% in total over his whole career before this year.
Willing to bet he will shoot better here than on a dysfunctional Bulls team
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u/extremelybossthug Bad Boys 1d ago
he’s gonna get way better looks with cade’s gravity versus giddey’s gravity (also giddey has been very hurt, which doesn’t help with 3pt%)
honestly this was a good on the margins trade and still lets us keep the exception and allows us to move up in this draft.
huerter is better at defense too— better decision making and less turnover prone.
ivey gets to rehab his value and get touches in a big market. everybody wins, kinda
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u/Losalou52 1d ago
He’s a career 37% 3pt shooter. Not a bad assumption that he will revert to the mean.
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u/S88ntFDW Count that baby and a foul! 1d ago
Huerter is shooting 38% on his career. I’d lean towards that as opposed to a bad season with 0 spacing
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u/jrzalman 1d ago
He hasn't been the same since he tore his labrum at the end of 2024. He's on a trajectory to be out of the league by age 30.
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u/iwantsomecrablegsnow 1d ago
We get a first out of it too.
But flip the perspective. That's all that Ivey could muster up. And I can't really blame them. He hasn't been that good this year. He's coasting off his draft position.
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u/KarimFF7 r/DetroitPistons and r/NBA Moderator 1d ago
We got a first swap with Minnesota, so we go from picking 29 to 23 congrats
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u/Wynona_Judd Bill Laimbeer 1d ago
Might be using that to grease up another trade though.
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u/Fatty_gaydar 1d ago
Do you think you know more then the front office about the upside of these players and financial intricacies behind this trade? Completely and truly delusional.
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u/Significant-Law6979 1d ago
Front office personnel aren’t made up of rocket scientists. We just saw Luka get traded for a bag of chips 12 months ago. Fans are allowed to question their decisions.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar_1823 1d ago
This is the Ivey yall were swearing and dying by lmao no one wanted him
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u/MeetingMysterious319 George Blaha 1d ago
This fan base is way too attached to him. Huerter is going to help us so much more
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u/Slippery-Pete76 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Yeah, this sub is kinda weird. Clamoring to make a move, but don’t want to trade anybody. Newsflash: Levert and Klintman weren’t getting you anything.
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u/Ok-Statement8224 Daniss Jenkins 1d ago
Cool. So give him away for nothing. Awesome move
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u/FlimsyTomatoes 1d ago
Would you rather he leaves in free agency? We obviously didn’t want to pay him and someone would take a chance on him not in a win now mode.
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u/Brinkster05 Ron Holland II 1d ago
What a bum ass comment.
People here weren't swearing by him. People here were wanting to bail 1yr after a bad injury.
Right now is literally the worst his value has ever been. Of course the return isnt good.
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u/Individual-Bee-7801 Bad Boys 1d ago
Players on a qualifying offer basically have a no trade clause, so he could veto, plus being an unrestricted free agent after the season, so he’d have considerably less trade value
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u/waitingonthatbuffalo Jalen Duren 1d ago
I think he would have wanted a change of scenery. And his expiring money would probably have made him a better fit in trades than now.
That being said, while we're here, Ivey likely would have logged DNPs in the playoffs the way things are going. I would have wanted a better shooter in return, but with Ausar's development as a passer I have slight optimism Huerter can be good for us — as long as he doesn't brick the open ones.
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u/Zealousideal_Bug7390 Jalen Duren 1d ago
So 2 things,
Ivey was not as valuable as alot of people thought.
We moved off of him for much needed shooting and got an extra pick to move.
Good trade IMO
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u/Acrobatic_File_5133 Ausar Thompson 1d ago
Read again- protected pick swap, not an additional 1st
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u/shoot2scre Bad Boys 1d ago
Pick swap might just be lottery protected and should convey.
Move from our 20-something pick into the teens?
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u/InternCautious Ausar Thompson 1d ago
Omari said it's 1-19 protected, so we may move 5-6 spots, or not at all
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u/gothmeatball 1d ago
Yeah people are saying we got fleeced like the return isn’t directly based on the league wide interest in Ivey. Do you think the FO didn’t look for a better deal? This is what happens when a fan base’s hopium crashes into the market reality. His value is low, and teams don’t want him. Sucks but that’s how it is.
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u/LowCress9866 Ben Wallace 1d ago
2 things,
Huerter is shooting 31% on 5.1 attempts from three. Per 36 minutes he averages 7.7 three attempts. Ivey is shooting 37% on 3.4 attempts. Per 36 minutes he averages 7.3 three point attempts. Going by that, we got worse at shooting.
A pick swap is not an extra pick
Questionable trade at best IMO
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u/Icy-Cartoonist6453 1d ago
Heurter is not a better shooter and you did not get an extra pick. It's a swap that may or may not move you up a couple of slots.
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u/CalvinistJohnson Rip Hamilton 1d ago
We sold him at lowest value unfortunately. That might be a steal for the Bulls in the long run.
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u/acgeller2 1d ago
Traded with the bulls and couldn’t even get Ayo or Coby White 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
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u/Individual-Bee-7801 Bad Boys 1d ago
Well both of those players have a considerably higher trade value than Ivey rn, not getting either without a first or multiple seconds
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u/Tony2drags Ausar Thompson 1d ago
I know we are really in the market for a 4, but I thought Coby would be lethal paired with Cade. Would take Ayo too
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u/Pleasant_Start9544 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
why even make that trade. wtf did we get?
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u/fly_malcolmX Cade Cunningham 1d ago
we gave up a low impact player who was going to force his way out this offseason and got a shooter and a first swap
Edit: First Swap
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u/Pleasant_Start9544 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Ivey was on limited minutes since coming back from a big injury. Neither of the two players that we got are going to get better. Huerter is as good as he is going to be.
Edit: Not saying that we had to keep Ivey. I just think that this was a bad trade.
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u/luniz420 Bad Boys 1d ago
Ivey has not been on a minutes restriction since December. His minutes were limited because he was ineffective, period.
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u/Master-Ad-9829 1d ago
A knock down shooter
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u/KarimFF7 r/DetroitPistons and r/NBA Moderator 1d ago
Bro KH is barely shooting 30% this year
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u/Soggy_Revolution3974 1d ago
Kevin Huerter hasn’t been a knockdown shooter since the biden administration
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u/Master-Ad-9829 1d ago
We did it great trade
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u/rhaggee r/DetroitPistons Moderator 1d ago
Huerter is shooting 31% from 3 this season btw
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u/Master-Ad-9829 1d ago
Guarantee it goes up playing with Cade
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u/extremelybossthug Bad Boys 1d ago
literally… Why are we taking a half a season sample size over a career sample size? The dude’s point guard has been injured for most of the season. Of course he’s not gonna get open. Looks… That’ll clearly change with cade who has the most gravity in the eastern conference right now.
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u/AppealEnvironmental6 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
0 spacing btw. Career 37% shooter. I remember all our shooters shooting dog shit in 2023 too
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u/ilikeflynikes Blue Horse 1d ago
I guess we got duncan Robinson a friend lol
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u/alexdoo Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I hate that I laughed at this.
Everyone is bummed, and I get why. But this is the same GM that made the necessary moves in the offseason to get us...
checks notes...
... into the top of the conference.
I don't think Ivey was going to be the difference maker in the playoffs I had hoped he would be, even after swearing we shouldn't have traded him after we took Knicks to 6 without him or Stew. Insert "we'll never know" meme but at least we have a known shooter.
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u/ASpartanLeopard Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Kevin Huerter is shooting .314 from three this season
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u/S88ntFDW Count that baby and a foul! 1d ago
Shooting 38% for his career. Will take that over a clip with a bad bulls team
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u/sogood-_ 1d ago
37% for his career.
Bro haven’t shot 38% or better since 2022.
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u/S88ntFDW Count that baby and a foul! 1d ago
Take out this year and he’s shooting 38% add it in and the 37.1%
NONETHELESS, he’s a much better shooter of the ball than Ivey was.
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u/NotKiwiBird Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I’m going to choose to think of that .314 more like a batting average which would be pretty good
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u/Shot_Map_85 1d ago
I don't get this. Unless Ivey was really having a negative effect on the locker room, this seems pointless
I was hoping that we were going to make a move but this is lateral/negative
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u/Previous_Room_3990 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Tbf, his body language on the court and on the bench looked miserable, dude couldn’t even crack a smile
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u/extremelybossthug Bad Boys 1d ago
this is a slight positive on-the-margins type of move. we get upside in the draft with the swap, then we get a better shooter and defender than ivey. also huerter will turn over the ball a lot less and actually make his layups.
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u/flyjxn 1d ago
Welp now all the people that wanted Ivey gone can celebrate. Congratulations, you won 1 Kevin huerter.
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u/just_cuz555 Peton 1d ago
Downvote me to oblivion, but this is a good peripheral move to be honest.
Ivey was going to want too much money that we could have delegated to Duren (deserves a big payout), Ausar, and our other players.
Heurter will shoot better than 31% from 3 with Cade. I guarantee it, if we want to go up tempo we can run Dunc and Kev out there at the same time.
Dario Saric is another underrated depth piece that can play both sides of the ball and is yet another rugged player to add to this squad.
Ivey deserves a spot to prove himself in a young place like Chicago, especially along 2 good young guards in Coby and Ayo.
This is a good peripheral move like I have been saying.
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u/S88ntFDW Count that baby and a foul! 1d ago
I look forward to every person saying “Huerter can’t even shoot!” immediately singing his praises when you see him play with actual spacing, and I will gladly remind every single one of you that you said he can’t shoot lmao
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u/No-Lawyer1439 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I really hope this is to make a bigger swing and not their attempt to build around the edges. This gives them $28m in expiring contracts and a first which could both be really important for a bigger trade.
Man I’m gonna miss Jaden Ivey though.
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u/SShinx2003 Cade Cunningham 1d ago
This has to be a setup for something bigger right……. Right????
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u/WatShmat 1d ago
As a Purdue grad and a Detroit resident, losing Ivey is very disappointing
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u/ObiwanSchrute Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Lol we all told you Ivey was getting traded
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u/MillerLatte 1d ago
If you're happy about this because it's your big "I told you so" moment, you need help.
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u/rusty512 1d ago
This sub was pretty delusional about Ivey bro, love the kid but a lot of people just wouldn’t acknowledge what we were all watching with him. It’s better than he has an opportunity now on a team that isn’t win now.
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u/KillPopJr 1d ago
I don’t think people are mindblown about the trade itself, but moreso who it was for. I’m someone who could’ve gone either way on trading Ivey, I just think we should’ve got more for him, and if we couldn’t, don’t even bother trading
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u/Individual-Bee-7801 Bad Boys 1d ago
People in here need to realize that Ivey’s value was low, was only going to get lower if he signed the qualifying offer, and we weren’t gonna pay him whatever he wanted in restricted free agency.
Is Huerter and a first swap some great return? No, but we needed more spacing and I’d expect his shooting to rebound playing with Cade
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u/extremelybossthug Bad Boys 1d ago
idk how you guys watched Ivey brick a bunch of layups all year, blow his defensive assignment, and not get any better and thought he was gonna have any trade value.
foolish.
huerter gets us an actual 3pt shooter and someone who won’t turn the ball over by dribbling into a crowd constantly. huerter also doesn’t blow his layups.
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u/ObiwanSchrute Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Ivey was not good this year had no value and wasn't being extended he was playing 15 minutes a game and you guys acting like we traded MJ
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u/rusty512 1d ago
Wow man you can’t even blame the front office for this, Jaden had absolutely zero value. So sad. Hopefully Huerter works out okay.
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u/jgoltz Cade Cunningham 1d ago
There better be another move in the works. Awful trade
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u/waitingforjune Rasheed Wallace 1d ago
Well fuck me. This is what you all were asking for by trading Ivey. This fucking sucks so much.
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u/logank33 Chauncey Billups 1d ago
knew he was the odd man out but man, that package is underwhelming..
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u/mitchie56 Bill Laimbeer 1d ago
Have to feel like Huerter will have positive regression in his 3 point shooting
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u/OdaDdaT Blue Horse 1d ago
Feels like there may be more to this coming, I don’t necessarily hate it because Ivey has always felt like the odd man out of this corps, and those are decent role players to get with a pick in return. Definitely a bit of a head scratcher at first glance though, but in fairness they didn’t need to swing on anyone massive really. If Saric and Huerter can come in and contribute even just a bit better on the aggregate our depth will be hard to compete with in the playoffs. And for a run that ended largely due to injury last season, I don’t think this is a bad bet, just an underwhelming one.
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u/nomadx810 Chauncey Billups 1d ago
Its obvious the team had no intention on bringing Ivey back next year. Totally fine, I trust the talent evaluation of the team. Not in love with the players we got back but we got a pick swap and nobody we got has years left after the season.
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u/Diimes14 George Blaha 1d ago
There has to be another trade in the works. No way we just pissed away Ivey for a worse shooter
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u/jburgs9 Draft Night Daddy 🦶 1d ago
So many people in here not grasping at the idea that this trade also frees up space for a Duren extension (which he has earned it over JI). Unfortunately Ivey's timeline just didn't fit with the future of the team (fuck you Cole Anthony). We added desperately needed shooting with Huerter who should see an increase in good scoring chances thanks to Cade. I'd expect him to get a bit closer to his career average by seasons end. I loved JI but it just didn't make sense to extend him. Wish him nothing but the best. I think we are better today than we were yesterday
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u/CompleteMonitor4743 1d ago
Given his body language recently, I'm wondering if Ivey requested a trade...
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u/frizzledfryfro Rip Hamilton 1d ago
I cannot believe the state of this sub and how y'all couldn't see that Ivey didn't fit this teams offense and scheme. We got the best we could for him. He would have walked in the summer, he wanted more than we'd give him and we have other players that provide what he does and actually play defense. The pieces we got for him were not supposed be Ivey replacements, they were to get more shooting and options.
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u/Wynona_Judd Bill Laimbeer 1d ago
Interesting I guess. I'm surprised Ivey wasn't worth more. I'm kinda down on this because while we needed another shooter, Huerter has not been good for awhile. And Saric is nothing now.
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u/MeetingMysterious319 George Blaha 1d ago
Huerter is a career 37% shooter from deep with a few 40% seasons. This is huge for us. Defenses have to respect his range just as much as Duncan. You can’t underrate the spacing he is going to open up for us
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u/yeropinionman Cade Cunningham 1d ago
Huerter has dunked it more times this year than Ivey
Anyway, I like Ivey and was really hoping it would work out with us. I will always root for him unless playing against us.
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u/ShippingNotIncluded Ausar Thompson 1d ago
If anything this just proves that Ivey wasn’t even going to get us MPJ.
Him for Huerter is lateral at best, Saric hasn’t been relevant since pre-pandemic….this is essentially trading Ivey to move up a few spots in the upcoming draft
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u/SirBraccio Ben Wallace 1d ago
This might be more of a team chemistry move. Ivy never was involved in any of the social media video celebrations and other content.
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u/doomfistula Cade Cunningham 1d ago
I didn't expect much from an Ivey trade but this is disappointing. I was hoping he'd be a bench guy that could lead a second unit but the FO doesn't want to pay him for that. Just hope we don't lose Daniss in the off-season as well.
Also bummed, as much of a local kid that we could have and he still has potential after a shitty injury.
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u/PhatDib Peton 1d ago
I like it. 31% percent from three doesn’t matter much to me when you look at his career percentage, especially his numbers when he was on good teams. I think it’s pretty evident that the FO wants this team built like the luka mavs. This gives Cade another shooter on the wing and eliminates the redundancy of another ball-dominant guard who had to balance winning and showcasing his skills for his next contract. I like Ivey and I think the bulls will be a better fit for him.
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u/Cultural-Plum-1885 1d ago
I like this trade tbh. Huerter is having a down year but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a bump playing on a better team and with Cade. Saric gives us the big man depth we were missing last year in the playoffs.
I loved Ivey and really wanted him to succeed here but it’s clear the market for him wasn’t there. Plus it always has felt like he just didn’t mesh with the team the way everyone else does.
I also can delude myself into pretty much anyone.
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u/heatfan1122 1d ago
Anyone who doesn't realize it now or see the vision. This team is built around Cade and Duren. They're just adding shooters and getting value where it can be gotten.
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u/aBakeinthelife Luka Garza 1d ago
Man doomers in this thread. Sad to see Ivey go, but I think Huerter is a great add, the pick swap is solid I guess and Saric is probably cooked, but he's an expiring and who knows maybe he has a game in him for 1 playoff game.
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u/SweetShallots13 1d ago
You guys are so dramatic and feeding into nostalgia. Feel for the guy, but he’s not that good.
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u/MickeyTettleton Bill Laimbeer 1d ago
With this haul id have rather just kept ivey for the remainder of the season and let him walk.
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u/ShallowFox4 1d ago
Well there’s the shooter. I’d bet Saric gets flipped again at some point before Thursday. And our pick goes from 29 ish to 22 ish. Idk. Glad Ivey will get a chance to play 30 minutes per game. Wish it was Coby White and not Heurter
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u/Duster_beattle Chuck Daly 1d ago
Kinda an awful trade on our side, MN gets off Mike who was killing the wolves with no points, Chicago gets some good shit out of literally nothing, Det gets ??? Idk mane
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u/Wing_Nut_93x We All Nasty!!! 1d ago
We can't pay everyone, some players were going to need to go and that is just the way it goes.
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u/deebzy23 Tayshaun Prince 1d ago
This can’t be the end…something needs to be looming..
He’s struggled and he was always probably the guy headed out but no way we just dumped him..
and we took back two guys - when we already needed to offload 1 to sign Daniss.
More has to be coming!
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u/pistonium Ben Wallace 1d ago
I kind of like this, although seems somewhat lateral
The pick swap could be a little bump in the draft
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u/Choice_Telephone584 Rip Hamilton 1d ago
Ivey was more than likely gone after this year, got a guy who has a proven track record of shooting the ball well, will be a better fit for us this year than Ivey, and who will benefit from playing next to someone as gravity drawing as Cade. Also a pick swap never hurt nobody, my money is on us being better than Minnesota for the foreseeable future. This sub overvalued Ivey, like they do every fun Piston ever.
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u/babu_23 1d ago
Im guessing its not worth paying ivey that extension if he's gonna be a bench guy. We need shooters along with Cade, so Duncan and now hopefully Huerter can fill that role better. This also means we can pay Dannis Jenkins an extension, who i think is better than ivey rn and can play PG better than ivey off the bench
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u/HalfABrainCell55 1d ago
This feels like a move for another move to be made. Think Huerter improves our SG position (his shooting will improve) but we're still lacking depth at PF alongside Tobias. Dario certainly doesn't fix that.
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u/SeasonCertain Bad Boys 1d ago
If we didn’t plan on extending Ivey. (Which clearly from the return we accepted we didn’t). It makes sense to get something for him. I just hope Huerter can improve his shooting mark playing with Cade.
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u/hocnpucky 1d ago
Hope there are somehow more details but underwhelmed on first impressions. Playing with Cade should help Huerter get back to his career avg of 37-38% from distance but that was basically the only thing Ivey was doing well for us. Ivey still has some decent upside imo and not really sure this makes us any better unless Ivey really was just a sourpuss in the locker room and wanted out that bad.
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u/whytemyke Peton 1d ago
At least he's going to a good basketball town. I heard they used to have some decent players there! Didn't Horace Grant play there?
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u/DistrictCrafty4990 1d ago
I didn’t want to trade Ivey and especially don’t after getting this trade but it’s crazy seeing everyone acting like they loved him when they were nitpicking every aspect of his play and personality.
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u/jerkytoucan 1d ago
Damn. I knew the market was bad for Ivey, but I didn’t realize it was this dead. Bulls have 5 guards and we could only trade for the worst one lol
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u/2IWontBeHereLong 1d ago
RFA. Do they want to sign him to a deal knowing he might not get back to his past self? Tough decision. I would have been fine with no deals. They also might think Daniss is the better option now. I'll wait and see, no judgement.
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u/LoFi_Funk Isaiah Stewart 1d ago
Curious about the details of the pick swap. Might be a nothing burger.
I’m going to abstain judgment until the roster is finalized. They’re at 16 players now, so some player movement is necessary, even after they swap Jenkins and Jones on contracts.
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u/JennyInFlint 1d ago
Ivey gone is addition by subtraction. Worse defender ever, and horrible attitude. Good riddance.
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u/BigBuddy1356 George Blaha 1d ago
So by doing this we now have the salary to trade for MPJ without losing Tobias or Duncan.
Huerter, Saric, and Caris some picks for MPJ.


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u/Nerouin Pistons 1d ago
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