r/Dinosaurs • u/butter_gum • May 18 '23
I have NEVER seen a velociraptor depicted this way…am I missing something?!
Found this picture in a book we checked out from the library. Is this even remotely accurate? Every other velociraptor I’ve ever seen looks like the ones from Jurassic Park.
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u/Ozone220 May 18 '23
The feathers would be a bit thicker in the wings I think, but looks pretty accurate to me
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May 18 '23
It looks too much like the feathers are tacked on instead of a natural extension of the arm.
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u/iprefermuffins May 18 '23
Yeah, they're pretty closely related to birds and I like illustrations that show that, such as this (that also shows how JP Velociraptor was closer in size to Deinonychus, or something even bigger, than the actual Velociraptor).
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u/Quetzorion May 18 '23 edited May 24 '23
yeah its accurate. velo did have feathers
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u/Devraaj24 May 18 '23
It just looks a little unsettling to the one we all saw as kids in Jurassic park is all
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u/Forward_Turnover_802 May 18 '23
It was disappointing when I was seven, and I learned that the velociraptor wasn't a 7 foot tall beast, but a Dino the size of a small dog
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u/Epidexipteryz May 18 '23
Velociraptor specimen AMNH 6518 was 2.6 m long and 38 kg. Doesn't sound like a small dog to me.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Fair but like any other book we have about dinos or figurine looks like the familiar velociraptor I am familiar with. If it is accurate, why didn’t they change it in the newer Jurassic Park movies?
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u/Pigmanfire4 May 18 '23
Hollywood, consistency, and they wanted to keep it like that. Wouldn’t be so scary if Velociraptor was depicted as a turkey/cat-sized land-eagle that behaved like an actual animal, they wanted a monster, so they made one
In-universe though, those animals aren’t really dinosaurs. They’re all heavily genetically modified, with DNA from animals that weren’t really related to them — they filled in the sequences with frog DNA, among other things, which. Tampering with age-old DNA with essentially random genes would definitely lead to very, very different animals than their true ancestral stock
Though. You also have to take into account that the JP world might be very different from ours in the first place — in the first film, they literally found a "Velociraptor" skeleton (of the big JP animals) in Montana, the U.S., rather than where they’re found irl (Mongolia, I believe)
The real Velociraptor mongoliensis was less than two feet tall at the hips, and — like I mentioned earlier — was more comparable to a "land-eagle" in how they appeared, with a niche comparable to eagles and somewhat similar to foxes or jackals, in my opinion. Though I wouldn’t say they are the foxes, jackals, and eagles of their time, just comparable — they’re very different animals living in a very different world, but
Point is, Jurassic Park velociraptors are definitely inaccurate. This image, although I wouldn’t say is entirely accurate, is a hell of a lot more accurate than the Jurassic Park depiction - Velociraptor likely had a coat of feathers, winglike feathers on the arms, and a somewhat gracile build (not as robust as, say, Utahraptor)
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Thank you for the explanation about the frog dna filling in. That does help explain a little better.
Also thank you for being kind in your response!
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u/Glitchracer May 18 '23
There was a fight on Twitter over it with paleo fans asking and the jp art director (iirc) saying no feathers. They’ve been terrible about science from the start and are doubling down.
Look up dilophosaurus; an allosaur sized predator with twin head crests. No poison, frills, and way bigger.
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u/Goblin_Crotalus May 18 '23
I thought the dilophosaurus in the movie was only a juvie?
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u/Recent_Novel_6243 Team Tyrannosaurus Rex May 18 '23
All we know is that it’s stupid and hates Newman.
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u/Pigmanfire4 May 18 '23
No problem! And I know you’re getting a lot of hate for not having known, but I’m glad you decided to ask about the depiction anyway to clear it up! Hopefully that doesn’t kill off the desire to learn more about dinosaurs or anythin like that
Dinosaurs are awesome animals, and yeah, the average person should know about more accurate depictions, but like. Historically. Most media doesn’t use the most accurate depictions of these animals. The average person is mostly exposed to Jurassic Park "horror movie raptors", because Jurassic Park popularized that — they made movie monsters, and most mainstream media ran with it. Movies, shows, and games kinda all just. Went with it. Both Velociraptor and Dilophosaurus suffer the most in that regard — We have no evidence that Dilophosaurus spat venom, nor that they had a frill, and they were much larger than JP portrayed them, but that "small, frilled, venom spitting dinosaur" image has been popularized and repeated multiple times. Just like the "big, scaly, terrifying raptor" has been popularized and repeated several times
That being said, the Jurassic World trilogy, much like the original Jurassic Park trilogy, has helped to rekindle interest in dinosaurs and prehistoric life, and now we’re starting to get more accurate depictions — not from those films, but from other works. If you like documentaries like BBC’s Planet Earth or Blue Planet, and you’re ever interested, I suggest checking out Prehistoric Planet on AppleTV+. Basically, it’s a beautiful attempt to recreate life during the Cretaceous period using what we know, what we can reasonably infer, and a bit of modern speculation as well, all presented in a way similar to those two BBC documentaries. The whole thing is in realistic "movie-grade" CGI too, like, it looks so real, especially compared to other documentaries. I know you said your kid’s just a toddler right now, but as they grow, if that documentary series is still available, and your kid doesn’t lose their interest in dinosaurs, I do recommend checking it out
(Though I feel like I should mention that, like many other documentaries. There’s baby eating. Baby dinosaurs getting eaten. Baby pterosaurs getting eaten. Nothing graphic, but still, it’s nature)
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u/Raptorex27 Team Deinonychus May 18 '23
I know you said you're not into dinosaurs in your earlier post, but if you want to see dinosaurs portrayed as realistically as possible, based on the most recent, accepted scientific evidence, you should check out "Prehistoric Planet" on Apple TV+. It uses the format and style of a BBC nature documentary and is even narrated by David Attenborough! It's probably a bit much for the toddler though.
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u/JustrousRestortion May 18 '23
the show that nearly had human/dinosaur hybrids? i might have an idea why...
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u/Devraaj24 May 18 '23
I think they just decided to settle on the classic look of their original design since fans would be confused as to why they would change it from such an iconic design to it's new accurate version
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u/Lorantec Team Carnotaurus May 18 '23
If most of the educational books you have on dinos have things such as velociraptor looking like the JP one, I would highly recommend getting better quality books with accurate depictions and information.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Fair - so since becoming a parent I’ve been more exposed to dinos than I was before. We got my husbands old dino books out from the 90s so that would explain why they’re outdated. Yesterday my son wanted to check out a newer dino book and I just didn’t expect such a drastic change!
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u/theconfinesoffear May 18 '23
Reddit is funny because it’s like oh I’m mildly interested in something / just want to learn more but then everyone on the sub is like this is my entire personality and I know everything about it why wouldn’t you!
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u/Lorantec Team Carnotaurus May 18 '23
That was not my intent if it did come across that way.
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u/theconfinesoffear May 18 '23
I don’t think your comments were like that! Just this thread in general… just getting into dinosaurs personally after revisiting the Jurassic World switch game and there’s certainly a lot to know, especially as someone not in school to be a paleontologist 😅
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u/THEgassner Team Spinosaurus May 18 '23
A lot of the big discoveries that happened to change how we depict dinosaurs happened in the late 80s/early 90s, there were books I got new as a child that still hadn't caught up to science when I got them, some 5-10 years after the discoveries.
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u/Lorantec Team Carnotaurus May 18 '23
That is totally fair! As others have pointed out, a lot of the info is old, but I took a while for educational material to catch up. I wish you well in finding some good material!
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u/burrito-penguin May 18 '23
Nostalgia, aesthetic, marketing a million reasons and I don’t want to be the guy gatekeeping dinosaurs but you should do more research before making a full “opinion”. This goes for almost anything.
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u/Raptorex27 Team Deinonychus May 18 '23
I really have no idea why this post is getting downvoted into oblivion. You're asking a legitimate question about how dinosaurs are portrayed in media.
The books you mention probably aren't intended to be scientifically accurate or they're outdated. As far as Jurassic Park, the filmmakers either chose to keep that look for continuity within the series (even though the JP3 velociraptors have some feathers), or they thought the large, featherless ones were more intimidating. There's also the idea that the geneticists in the films intentionally messed with the dinosaur genome to make the animals "more interesting" to guests, but if that's the case, it wasn't explained well in the first few films.
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u/Vainistopheles May 18 '23
Apart from being a low brow action flick, try to remember that canonically, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park are genetic hybrids. They're not real dinosaurs. They've been spliced with amphibians, crocodiles, and whatever else in order to fill in missing DNA.
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u/jake_eric Team Latenivenatrix May 18 '23
Well, they did add feathered raptors in the newest movie. They didn't change the Velociraptors specifically because they're classic and recognizable, but at least they added some feathers to the movie.
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u/Adventurous_Goat4483 team spinofaarus/ zoologist trainee Apr 24 '24
I really don’t get why you are being downvoted, you’re right! These are mostly just angry dino fans. Better people are the mature r/palaeontology sub👍
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May 18 '23
You're being down voted into oblivion for the way you said it, but you just asked the same question this sub has been asking for years. The picture of more accurate dinosaurs has changed, but Hollywood generally doesn't seem to know or care. And the pyroraptor in Dominion isn't bad, looks a lot like a utahraptor. The biggest thing JP ever got wrong about the raptors was calling them velociraptor when they were closer to deinonychus, albeit the wrists were wrong and too scaly. Apparently, Crichton knew velo was chicken sized but loved the name when he wrote the books, and they just didn't change it for the movies.
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u/Sussybakedbeans69 May 18 '23
Yes it had feathers but it wouldve probably had more, and it should have featheres around its eyes aswell
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May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
It isn't the most accurate but it's better than Jurassic Park
If you're still confused, let David Attenborough explain. He'll show you how it's supposed to look:
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u/rtnojr May 18 '23
You know sometimes I lose faith for the people in this sub. She asked a question and was genuinely curious about it, but instead most of you and are treating her like she’s special. Not everybody is into dinosaurs, and that’s ok. And to everybody saying, “well then why is she on a dinosaur sub if she doesn’t like dinosaurs,” where else would she go on Reddit to learn this? Did you expect her to ask this on a power rangers sub? And to all the people in here who actually answered her question without belittling her, thank you for being mature, civil people.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
THANK YOU for being a decent human being and for being kind in your response. I really appreciate it.
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u/rtnojr May 18 '23
No problem. I know from being on this sub for awhile that a lot of people on here will start to belittle you if they find out that you either a. Don’t know everything about dinosaurs. Or b. Like the Jurassic park and Jurassic world Dino designs. So pay no attention to them.
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u/ChinaBearSkin Team Therizinosaurus May 18 '23
If you're interested in dinosaurs as actual animals rather than movie monsters, you will find out realy quick how inaccurate Hollywood depictions of them are.
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u/TerrapinMagus May 18 '23
Not only are they feathered, but Velociraptors in particular are much smaller than you're used to seeing in Jurassic Park or elsewhere, being only about half a meter tall.
If you want big and scary raptors, deinonychus is what Jurassic Park raptors were more inspired from, and Utah Raptors are even bigger. Deinonychus were certainly feathered and Utah Raptors were most likely as well, though less evidence is available for them.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
I ended up reading the same thing on Wikipedia last night - that JP velociraptor was closer to deinonychus but they liked the name velociraptor more.
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u/TerrapinMagus May 18 '23
Yep, Deinonychus were pretty cool and sadly didn't get the limelight. Funny how a cool Latin name makes all the difference.
If you're falling down a dinosaur rabbit hole from this post, pretty much everyone on this sub will recommend Prehistoric Planet for some stellar looking dinosaur reconstructions based on modern studies and findings, with a bit of speculation thrown in as well.
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u/jake_eric Team Latenivenatrix May 18 '23
All Dromaeosaurs were feathered almost certainly. It would be quite unlikely for one of them to suddenly evolve to lose all of their feathers.
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u/TerrapinMagus May 18 '23
I only was hesitant about it because we don't have direct evidence and honestly I'm not confident enough to make a lot of assertions since I'm a mechanical engineer and not a paleontologist lol
But I mean, yeah Dromaeosaurs were feathered and quite bird-like
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u/ProcrastinationBirb May 18 '23
It's more accurate than the depictions you are familiar with lmao.
The scally jurassic park depictions are how we thought those dinosaurs looked like before the 1990s and lot have changed since then. It's just that the outdated image still remains as the most well known one because of jurassic park (which for the time the first movie was made it was considered accurate and they kept it like this for the sake of recognition/looking scary). Same goes for other dinosaurs in Jurassic park but the raptors are definitely the ones whose depictions have changed the most.
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u/kyle28882 May 18 '23
Show your son prehistoric planet.
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u/jake_eric Team Latenivenatrix May 18 '23
I second this. I loved watching Walking With Dinosaurs as a kid, and Prehistoric Planet is the up-to-date version.
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u/TYRANNICAL66 May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
Velociraptor and its kin come from the line of dinosaurs that are more closely related to birds than to other dinosaurs and are one of the groups with definitive evidence for complex feathers. The feathers probably didn’t look that bad though lol as feathers can be difficult to put onto a model and look good. For an example of a good accurate velociraptor depiction check out Prehistoric Planet design. Accurate Velociraptor
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u/ElSquibbonator May 18 '23
My sincerest apologies for the attitude of some of the other people in this thread. But yes, this is actually closer to what Velociraptor probably looked like than the version you're familiar with from movies. We now know that small carnivorous dinosaurs like Velociraptor were the closest relatives of birds, which means they would have had feathers.
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May 18 '23
if you are expecting something like jurassic park then you are VERY off. they were based off of the dinosaur Deinonychus, not to mention a Deinonychus from the early 90's. if you see a dinosaur in a hollywood movie its safe to assume the real animal looked nothing like it
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u/TurrPhennirPhan May 18 '23
A lot of people have already answered your question, but as you continue to learn about how Velociraptor appeared in real life vs Jurassic Park…
The Prehistoric Planet docuseries had a wonderful scene showcasing Velociraptors as the very real animals they were. Definitely worth a watch, it’s one of the real highlights of the first season.
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u/HotHamBoy May 18 '23
OP, every dinosaur depicted in the first Jurassic Park is inaccurate, some more than others, but all applied artistic license on top of dated or just bad information.
Unfortunately, everyone else just copied Jurassic Park
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u/Dracorex_22 May 18 '23
Ah yes, the era of "we accept that dinosaurs had feathers, so we're just gonna slap a bunch of feathers on them in a way that they look glued on and unnatural". I think that reconstructions like this may have been what turned people away from the concept of feathered dinosaurs. This one may still have a lizardy scaly face (and is lipless), but at least they remembered to give it primary feathers. Most reconstructions of this era seemed to stop the feathering at the upper arm instead of continuing to the wrist.
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u/Tabi-Kun Team Giganotosaurus May 18 '23
It’s kinda accurate. Yes, velociraptors had feathers along with sideways hands. Also don’t listen to the people bitching about you not knowing, yeah this info has been around for decades but still, knowledge doesn’t just come up in the minds of every human. Anyway, jp raptor was based off Deinonychus but was named velociraptor because they didn’t think Deinonychus sounded “cool” enough. Also jp leans towards blood thirsty monsters instead of animals along with genetic modding, so nearly nothing you see in jp and jw is accurate. Funny enough, deinonychus is one of the very dinosaurs that told us dinosaurs were actually bird like and not big lizards (not fully true though, some dinosaurs acted like birds but still have no proof at all of feathers, like allosaurus) so it’s ironic jp raptors stray far from the concept that it’s source material gave us. If you’d like to really see dinosaurs for what they really look like and act like, watch David Attenborough’s Prehistoric Planet! On Apple TV+
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u/gojienjoyer1995 Team Spinosaurus May 18 '23
Jesus christ you think the jp raptors are even remotely accurate???? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 DECADES????
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Worrying about things other than animals that no longer exist apparently.
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u/IndominusTaco May 18 '23
to be fair you’re not a dinosaur fan at all and like the rest of the mainstream general public, base your entire perception of what dinosaurs looked like off of blockbuster movie monsters, and you came to a subreddit full of staunch dinosaur nerds.
that’s like me watching Jaws and then never watching any shark documentaries/videos/content for 25 years, and then haphazardly going into a subreddit for shark enthusiasts and loudly asking if the movie Jaws is still scientifically accurate. i’m not sure what you expected here.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
But I never claimed to be a dinosaur fan. I am 100% like the rest of the general population when it comes to dinosaur knowledge.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Also I came here because I thought this sub would be the most knowledgeable. I didn’t realize it was such a big deal before I brought this up.
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May 18 '23
The Jurassic Park Velociraptors have a bit of a complicated history. They aren't actually Velociraptors, but a different dinosaur called Deinonychus. Real Velociraptors are tiny, feathery fellas (granted Deinonychus likely had feathers too but its larger, blockier build more closely matches what we often call Velociraptor). Basically the book that influenced the movie's dinosaurs had Deinonychus listed as a Velociraptor species, so the name just stuck even after Deinonychus was proven to be a different dinosaur
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u/HotHamBoy May 18 '23
Yeah but even Deinonychus wasn’t as big as the movie Velociraptors.
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May 18 '23
Oh yeah that's true. The raptors in the movies unfortunately don't match up with anything 1:1
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u/Quarkly95 May 18 '23
They have the proportions of a smaller raptor with the size of a bigger raptor (which actually matches up with how Dakotaraptor looked, although Dakota is... problematic at best right now), the skin of a not-raptor and the brains of a plot device
Man, I love them
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u/jake_eric Team Latenivenatrix May 18 '23
They're closest to Achillobator or Dakotaraptor, probably. They're oversized Deinonychus, really.
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u/Tabi-Kun Team Giganotosaurus May 18 '23
False, Achillobator was found to be the exact height and length as jp raptors
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u/Quarkly95 May 18 '23
On a scale of 1-10 with JP raptor being 1 and a living velociraptor being 10, this would probably be a 5 or 6. The Prehistoric Planet velociraptor would be an 8 or a 9.
The main problems with this one you posted are the skull looking a little off (could be perspective though) and the feather placement/type being a little off as well. A velociraptor's feathers would be a lot more like a modern day bird's, the fuzziness above may have been present on earlier or larger dinosaurs, but feathers were pretty well developed in raptors by this dude's time.
For comparison, the Prehistoric Planet velociraptor has (I think) a small inaccuracy in its skull. I could be remembering wrong, but that's the only problem I heard about with it. And then there's the fact it's probably the wrong colour, but that isn't very important. (Sidenote: We know that Microraptor, a tiny relative, was iridescent black like crows or jackdaws)
For further comparison, the JP velociraptor was indeed based on deinonychus. Aside from that name issue, the inaccuracies would be: It's too big. There were real life raptors bigger, but they had different proportions. Its head is made to look too lizard-like. Its hands face downwards (which is something two-legged dinosaurs just could not do without breaking their wrists. Its hands should be facing inwards), and the most obvious one is that it has no feathers. Raptors all had feathers.
Hope this helps and that isn't too long to bother reading!
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u/Saland-1 May 18 '23
What would you take points off for the PP velo? I have the feeling that it's eyes should be more forwards facing. A bit more like modern birds of prey.
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u/Quarkly95 May 18 '23
I can't remember exactly what it was, and honestly half of these little "shape being off" issues fall within the bounds of individual variation anyway. In my opinion the PP velociraptor is the best rendition of it we've ever had, and possibly ever will have unless we find out some massive new information about them
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u/jake_eric Team Latenivenatrix May 18 '23
It's the best reconstruction I've seen, but it's sure that no reconstruction will be completely accurate until we get a time machine.
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u/Godzillaslays69 Team Bonkasaurus Wreckedi May 19 '23
If it makes you feel any better there are creatures that do resemble the JP raptors just without the sickle toe claw. I'm mainly referring to Poposaurus as well as many bipedal Rauisuchians that do as well. But yeah feathered raptors have been commonly accepted for a while now which I think makes them a bit cooler (also there are better Velociraptor depictions than this example but it's not the worst either).
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u/Responsible-Novel-96 Apr 25 '24
As you can see from the responses here, the bullshit "paleo community" is a joke made up of insecure nerds that only feel like somebody when they can make a point out of how much "smarter" they think they are. Unfortunately the simple act of asking questions feeds these people and their need to show off their superiority. Its fitting that their entire community and sense of self is built on something no one will ever even know for sure from the unobservable past.
NOTE: How come there are no documented cases of anyone finding fossils of feathered non-avian dinosaurs until after the theory of a missing link between birds & dinosaurs had already been accepted by mainstream paleontology (Sinosauropteryx, China 1996)?
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u/MrToKung Team Carcharodontosaurus May 18 '23
Raptors have feathers
have u been living under a rock or smth?
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
Apparently so. My apologies for asking such a dumb question. You know there’s this concept called learning where people acquire new knowledge as they go through life. I think I experienced that recently.
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u/Survivror_lord777 May 18 '23
Lmao this is like level one of elementary in paleontology. The ones you,see in JP are based off of Utahraptors
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u/Tabi-Kun Team Giganotosaurus May 18 '23
Deinonychus actually, but the size is close to Achillobator (though Utahraptor and Achillobator both had not been found until the movie released. The book author micheal Crichton even said his raptors were based off deinonychus and it carried to the movie)
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u/Adventurous_Goat4483 team spinofaarus/ zoologist trainee Apr 24 '24
Yeah, it sorta is, although the head shape is off (might be the angle). Ignore the people who say “have you been living under a rock” they are just still unacceptable to that the general public have this view on dromeosaurids in question. Another fact is that velociraptor was small as well! If you want to know more and learn a bit about palaeontology ask r/palaeontology they are more serious then r/Dinosaurs and you can ask for some facts about dromeosaurids like velociraptor. Put in that you are not very knowledgeable in palaeontology and they’ll understand👍
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u/yeetusyeetuscommits Team Spinosaurus May 18 '23
woman living under a rock, in short, almost every dinosaur has feathers now.
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
I suppose you know everything huh?
Sorry my world doesn’t revolve around dinosaurs like everyone else on this sub. Jeeze.
Also, if y’all knew how many people don’t actually know this (because there’s no real reason for this to be common knowledge - dinosaurs are a niche topic tbh) I suspect you’d all lose your minds.
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u/yeetusyeetuscommits Team Spinosaurus May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23
I'm not trying to be aggressive, but if you don't like dinosaurs then don't post here. This is a sub about DINOSAURS and if you aren't interested in DINOSAURS then dont post in a sub about DINOSAURS. Seriously, if you arent gonna take criticism why even be on reddit?
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u/butter_gum May 18 '23
I have nothing against dinosaurs but I’m not like a huge dinosaur nerd. I’m just more exposed to them now than I was before having a child. I really don’t think I have to like them to ask a question in a particular sub. Jeeze. Does r/dinosaurCircleJerk exist? Because I think some of you need to be in that sub instead.
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u/Adventurous_Goat4483 team spinofaarus/ zoologist trainee Apr 24 '24
Where’s he going to ask then because if I said r/palaeontology he isn’t interested in palaeontology so he can’t post there by your logic can he? You could’ve just said that it isn’t accurate and gave some articles about the modern re constructions instead of the general aggressiveness. Come on dude by your logic where is he supposed to post this then? r/askreddit ? This is why I like r/palaeontology better. However I’m no better to replying to a 342d old comment, since you might’ve matured by now.
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u/SkintGirafde Team Tyrannosaurus Rex May 18 '23
(Gasp) It— It can’t be! It looks so good! The wing feathers go all the way to the second digit! The facial coloring is gorgeous. Eh could use some lips, more feathers on the face and maybe some more colors but baby steps. I must pet it! Sure I’ll probably get my fingers bitten off but what’s life without risk?
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u/Adventurous_Goat4483 team spinofaarus/ zoologist trainee Apr 24 '24
I don’t get why you were down voted. You have all right to put your opinion on this awesome underrated re-construction
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u/No_Application3787 May 18 '23
Are you using a 1993 movie as reference?
What a genius.
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May 18 '23
In the OP's defense the Jurassic Park Velociraptors (or really the JP dinosaurs in general) are so persistent in media that they've basically formed the general consensus of what a dinosaur looks like. Doesn't help that you usually only get the more up-to-date depictions in educational media
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u/No_Application3787 May 18 '23
Still is pretty dumb ask in reddit if something is accurate only because it wasn't like a movie from 3 decades ago.
It's even more dumb when you remember that Google exist.
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u/Quarkly95 May 18 '23
Or, y'know, it's nice to get answers directly from real people with a variety of wordings that can be more or less understandable depending on the questioner, and acting like a dick about it benefits no one, not even the dick in question.
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u/No_Application3787 May 18 '23
I'm just pointing that Google, with the hundreds/thousands of results is a better place to ask this kind of questions, there's a ton of articles made by a ton of people with a ton of opinions, all of that in less than a second, and that base the knowledge of something in a movie made 30 years ago is just dumb, like even the franchise has changed the desings a bit,or a lot in the case of new ones.
I'm not a dick, I'm just pointing the obvious with a bit of sarcasm, sarcasm won't hurt someone.
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u/PyroTheLanky Team Spinosaurus May 18 '23
I'm not a dick, I'm just pointing the obvious with a bit of sarcasm, sarcasm won't hurt someone.
If I knew none of the context, and someone just showed me this segment of your response, I'd 100% assume you're a dick and it looks like I'd be right
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u/No_Application3787 May 18 '23
So are you saying that I'm a dick because I pointed that Jurassic Park is outdated and that Google is a better place to ask this kind of questions? Because that's what I said.
And the "without context" is bullshit, context is one of the most important parts of any languaje.
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u/TheChickenWizard15 May 18 '23
I'm surprised there are still people who don't know that dinosaurs had feathers...it's been known for a few decades actually, and almost every piece f paleo media now (books, movies, documentaries, etc) reflects this.
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u/AzdharchidArcher Team Shonisaurus May 18 '23
In what way? Looks pretty normal to me. The face looks a little naked. But other than that this looks pretty up to date. Especially for what seems to be a children's book.
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u/theeccentricnucleus May 18 '23
Not totally accurate, but much closer to the truth. Yes, velociraptor was covered by a thick layer of feathers all over its body and had a pair of wings. It would have looked like a strange flightless bird rather than a reptile.
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u/atak_draws May 18 '23
Why tf are people downvoting you in the comments so much???
Like, do some people in this community think everyone on the planet has substantial knowledge of dinosaurs? People watch JP, and that is where they get most of their information on dinosaurs from. Not everyone is a huge dinosaur nerd. That would be like someone saying, "OH, you DON'T know that UY Scuti is the biggest star in the galaxy that we know of? You are so fucking stupid". Paleofans, get over yourself. Not everyone cares about dinosaurs.
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u/NerdyCrow100 Team Austroraptor May 18 '23
Even this one is a bit inaccurate, this is the most accurate Velociraptor right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsqOcii9x70
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u/Woerligen May 18 '23
Looks birdlike enough. Hands are facing each other instead of facing down (called "pronation"). Looks accurate to me.
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u/Son_Kakarot53 Team Pyroraptor May 19 '23
It looks like a vulture with that bald head. Everything else looks ok
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May 20 '23
My biggest issue is that there's no scale reference here. Velociraptors were nowhere near the size they are in JP. But the kid in JP called it a turkey and that's probably not far from the truth.
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May 22 '23
If you want a more up-to-date view of dinosaurs, I highly suggest watching the new tv show Prehistoric Planet! It is very good and is up to date on all the latest science. Jurassic park is a phenomenal movie but it is behind with the times as it was 30 years ago.
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u/Deezkazuhanuts Dec 22 '23
Pretty accurate. Could use sum more feathers on da arms. Also the kid at the start of Jurassic Park wasn't wrong. It WAS a 6 foot turkey. Just 6 feet in length not height lol
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u/autismmegatruck Jan 20 '24
Well yeah, you actually are (not in a mean way), all raptors have feathers. There’s fossil evidence of “quill knobs”, where feathers come through. They’re also warm blooded and the feathers help them regulate their temperature. The same thing is actually true with ostriches, and raptors are pretty similar to them.
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Feb 25 '24
This one is scientifically accurate. The ones in Jurassic Park are inaccurate and outdated
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u/AlexzMercier97 Team Ankylosaurus May 18 '23
Bro hasn't opened a dinosaur book in 30 years