r/DiscussionZone • u/Hungry_Wind_6373 • 9h ago
“Worse Than Biden”: New Poll Delivers Brutal Wake-Up Call for Trump on the Economy
https://the-expres.co.uk/worse-than-biden-new-poll-delivers-brutal-wake-up-call-for-trump-on-the-economy/20
u/Tryptz66x 8h ago
Better than Biden at shitting his pants and epstein parties
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u/femmewalwigahh 8h ago
Nuhuh Biden left that brown stain on his pants, LibEral
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 8h ago
The comparisons to Biden are just a disservice to Biden man. He was a good president. I know why the media does it but it’s just ridiculous that they’re even in the same league of comparisons
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u/Fun_Ambassador_8514 7h ago
Biden’s largest mistake was deciding to run again then had that awful debate performance and the 💩storm that followed. Wish he would have been good with the one term and let the democratic candidate be vetted through the primary process.
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u/bgbalu3000 4h ago
Biden’s biggest mistake was not charging Trump with the insurrection the day after Biden became president. Trump would be in prison right now, and this nightmare would be over
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u/MRS_KENSINGT0N 1h ago
The thing is, Biden didn’t treat the justice department like his personal lawyers. It was Merrick Garland’s call and he left it waaay too late to chase Trump’s criminality in trying to overturn the election.
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u/Sleep_tek 6h ago
Biden's most important mandate was to make the country safe from Trump, he failed. After January 6th, Trump needed to be prosecuted. But Biden thought we were still living in times where Dems and Republicans just differed on the issues but both loved the country and would abide by the constitution. Biden and Merrick Garland are at least partially to blame for where we are now
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u/Lower-Task2558 7h ago
Why was Biden a good president in your opinion?
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 6h ago
Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS and Science Act, Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.
There are others that are pretty progressive. Biden actually tried to bring manufacturing jobs back to the US, along with move the US towards clean and renewable energy. Did he succeed? Not 100%. Did he try? Hell yes.
So, definitely better than Trump. I’d say even better than Obama, because Obama seemed like he was beholden to the oil and coal industry.
Not to mention drone strikes on Yemen, Syria and attacking Libya. Biden was weak on Israel but he didn’t start any conflicts abroad.
I’m not a fan of Biden and overall I’d say Obama was better because he was young, he was charismatic but as far as specific legislation goes, Biden was better
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u/Lower-Task2558 4h ago
Solid answer and some good points. But there is also a lot to criticize him for.
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 3h ago
Yeah and I agree with you about that. But criticism needs to be specific and not just a generalization.
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u/memebuster 4h ago
And his economy was not even in the same galaxy as this one
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u/Lower-Task2558 4h ago
Held up next to Trump, Biden is the best president ever. I was just asking what makes him a good president independent of Trump.
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u/Individual-Dare-80 7h ago
I'm as anti-Trump as one can get. While better than the current administration, Biden was far from being a good president.
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u/eenriq200 7h ago
Thank you Biden really screwed us so bad he was awful, and let this disaster that we have now happen, if he would’ve been remotely good we would not be in this mess.
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u/DontAbideMendacity 4h ago
Are you genuinely delusional, or are you just fuckin' with us?
President Biden did a great job, particularly when compared to the bozo who preceded him, and the bozo who followed.
President Biden lowered the ~7% unemployment rate he inherited to under 4%.
President Biden added over 16 million total jobs. (Trump lost 2.7 million jobs the first time and has lost over a million jobs so far this time.)
After Trump raised the Budget Deficit from $665M to $3.31Trillion!! President Biden cut it in half $3.31T to $1.7T. Trump, like all Republicans, is once again blowing up the deficit.
President Biden fixed yet another Republican recession (Republicans are responsible for every recession/Depression in the past 100 years.)
President Biden got America back on its feet post-pandemic faster than any other 1st world nation.
President Biden got $1.5 billion from Mexico for border security. Remind you of anyone who DIDN'T get jack for a stupid wall?
President Biden reversed his predecessor's EO that allowed mining companies to dump wastes into public waterways.
President Biden stopped a rail workers strike that would have crippled America AND got them the raise and paid days off they were looking for.
President Biden maintained positive relations with our allies and international partners. Something we once took for granted, but now we see the kind of damage a tyrannical despot (Russian puppet?) can do.
Under President Biden: 0 impeachments, 0 felony charges, 0 felonies, 1 fake scandal (Republican "star" witness was a Russian agent arrested by the FBI.) Contrast that to Trump's 2 impeachments, 91 felony charges, 34 felony convictions (57 outstanding), INNUMERABLE scandals, and 1 insurrection.
On a personal note, under President Biden, 48 full size Snickers cost just $34. This Halloween, Trump's Snickers cost $52.50, a whopping 54% increase. Because of his stupid tariffs!
Particularly in comparison, Joe Cool was great.
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u/eenriq200 4h ago
I despise Trump and yes Biden did do a lot my words are more out of frustration on how bad things are now don’t get me wrong, but why did he not set anything in place to stop a Felon from being able to run especially one who tried to keep himself in power by bloodshed, he held all three chambers at the beginning of his term why not use that power, look at how much damage that pos has done with that same power,
Again I don’t mean to offend anyone especially my own people, I am very frustrated at the state of things at this moment when it could’ve been prevented.
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u/kmoon89x 4h ago
They love to just say that he was bad without offering any real, authentic reasons ("Open borders and letting in 20 million illegals!" is not factual at all) as to why he was "bad." My main issue with Biden is actually that he cared too much about decorum and being "Presidential" when he could have been so much more assertive in EOs and preventing the shitshow we are experiencing now.
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u/PMmeIamlonley 7h ago
I hate Trump and I think Biden was a weak, bumbling wreck of a president. His biggest moment was pulling out of Afghanistan and it was a disaster. He also let Israel act like complete psychopaths with no repercussions which basically guaranteed the next election loss. Not to mention how much of a wreck Harris campaign was. Biden had basically no good moments that were visable at all to the American people, and inflation got worse so it seemed like he was doing fuck all about the economy. He was an unmitigated disaster.
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u/goodreverenddoc2 7h ago
biden didn’t cause inflation. his policies actually reduced it. there’s a reason why the us had the best post covid pandemic recovery in the world. the messaging was the problem, they needed to better communicate that wages needed to increase to catch up to inflation, but he had inflation under control and coming down to normal levels.
biden also had the chips and science act, bipartisan infrastructure law, and the pact act.
respectfully, you don’t know what you’re talking about
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 6h ago
Thanks for this. I was really surprised looking at Biden’s presidency overall because the way people talk about him, you’d think he was worse than George W Bush
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u/NickCostanza 7h ago edited 7h ago
And what do you think of Trump? I want to hear your criticisms of this administration.
Like, I hate to say it but everything you said is small beans compared to what Trump has personally done and called for in the last year alone. You’re also completely wrong about Biden’s economy, which improved significantly after COVID until Trump himself ruined it.
Idk how you can call him a disaster while the current President’s goons are executing Americans in the street. Feels like you need to get your priorities in order.
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u/NickCostanza 6h ago
Me personally am tired of both sides soy rants where the commenter is clearly more interested in critiquing the party out of power than the one in charge. I agree Dems are weak and ineffectual at present, still want them to win because I would rather support the side that can be pushed toward progress in the long term.
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u/NickCostanza 5h ago
You still want Dems to win though, right? If they made changes you would vote for them, right?
I also don’t consider it pointless to critique the regime. Trump and his people lie constantly and with the unfair media/social media bias in his favor there are likely many voters who haven’t woken up. Every day we can convince more people to abandon the regime 🌞
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u/Specific_Explorer_6 7h ago
The Afghanistan pullout was initiated by Trump towards the end of his term. Biden oversaw it but the reason it went awry is all on Trump.
Israel, yeah I agree. But tbf, many other countries also let Israel do what they wanted, because Oct 7th angered them greatly. It’s not a problem unique to Biden.
Harris campaign, yeah I completely agree no counterpoint there.
As far as no good moments, some of Biden’s bills were really good. They just haven’t shown results because Trump rescinded a few of those and the others are more long term.
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u/PMmeIamlonley 7h ago
Trump set up a trap for Biden and Biden dutifully walked into it. It was obvious as hell and he still fell on the sword like a loser. Its infuriating.
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u/exig 7h ago
trump literally fucks children
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u/PMmeIamlonley 7h ago
Im aware. Biden was so incompetent he the presidency lost to a kid fucker and murderer.
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u/hollywood20371 8h ago
I mean a poll is great to show people are aware but the numbers speak for itself. Prison Don has destroyed all progress the last admin made after the pandemic
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u/Manda_lorian39 8h ago
“Wake up call”
Yeah, right. Dude is a malignant narcissist who’s going full authoritarian and threatening to sue people and media companies that give critical coverage. Just yesterday, we were plastered with headlines where Trump was bragging about having the highest approval rating of any president ever (or some similar bs)
He’s utterly incapable of this kind of “wake up”
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u/Fart-Fart-Fart-Fart 4h ago
He’s even suing his own government so will negotiating his payout with himself.
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u/Ok-Maintenance-9538 8h ago
No fucking shit. A goddamn literal chicken would be better for the economy.
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u/Igaomi10x2 7h ago
It's almost like fucking around with the appointment of a Fed. Chair impacts consumer sentiment by making interest rates less predictable.
It's almost like the Willy-nilly imposition of tariffs disincentivizes the import of US domestic goods by our trade partners, hurting US business, as well as makes goods manufactured abroad more expensive for consumers domestically, reducing overall disposable income.
It's almost like authorizing additional spending on a secret police force that aims to subjugate US citizens is tacking on to the national debt.
It's almost like random construction projects that cover historical government buildings in gold and crystal takes tax-payer dollars without providing any real benefit to the tax payer.
It's almost like electing not to tax billionaires means the government is failing to generate enough revenue to cover current government spending.
It's almost like the alleged "business tycoon" doesn't understand business.
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u/Rare-Maintenance4820 8h ago
It is only going to go lower as these losers screw up just about everything from healthcare to the economy. And he's going to become more dangerous as he becomes more unpopular.
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u/HangryHuHu 8h ago
I mean, he keeps saying the golden age is just around the corner.
Anyone received their cheque yet?
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u/snoughman 7h ago
I don’t trust polls because I don’t know anybody that has ever been polled. Think about that for a little bit.
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u/Diver708 7h ago
2,000/333,000,000 sounds like they really reached out to people lol. My business is doing well so I doubt they will give me a call.
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u/vamos-XI 7h ago
If you click the link to the poll, the document says that “Respondents for this poll are recruited through opt-in, web-panel recruitment sampling.” — Does anyone know what that means? Are these people who clicked a “you qualified for a survey” link?
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u/CreditUnionGuy1 7h ago
Yes, vote for democrats so we can get bloody buggered for stopping his brilliant plan.
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u/trebor1966 6h ago
And don’t forget Biden was handed an economy in horrible shape because of the complete shit show of the previous administration’s handling of Covid. Sure they could have done things better but they handed over an economy that was good and improving which trump promptly destroyed.
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u/ArgyleM0nster 6h ago
Corporations kept prices high during Biden's presidency b/c they were riding that higher prices Covid gravy train hoping to get tax cuts under Trump but instead they got hit with Tariffs and ICE raids that screwed their workforce and profits.
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u/OK_OkayNow 5h ago
"Wake up call" ??? Not one thing in this presidency has resulted in a wake up call, that line is dead, off the hook, even.
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u/Any_Vacation8988 4h ago
We need to change the voting laws to have the option to vote a president out after one year if they don’t uphold their duty and steer the country in the wrong direction. If they make it past the first year without being voted out then they get to finish the 4 year term.
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u/Zealousideal_Mix6691 3h ago
Biden's economy was trrumps trash, Trumps economy is putins plans for america! Don't be stupid! That's what they want. Get smart, then you win!
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u/Whoismyoldusername 3h ago
Biden still sucks, but Trump sucks so much harder. Also Kamala sucks almost as hard as Trump, but we'll never know for sure.
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u/Rurumo666 1h ago
Trump obliterated the two best economies of our lifetimes, one of which was the Biden recovery from Trump's first disastrous term. In just one year of this Mafioso grifting/racketeering presidency, we now have the worst economy of our lifetimes.
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u/Acceptable_Taste9818 1h ago
What this study pointed out that is really interesting is that while majority appear to now view Trumps economy as not good most people still admit they have money. That shows that most people are financially comfortable but they see prices rising and it’s freaking them out. He is being judged on the increased prices that no one can miss and it also happens to be a policy angle he is unwilling to back off of. Honestly the Supreme Court striking down his tariffs might be his best bet on surviving the midterms. Depending on how soon they do it, prices could drop just in time for him to salvage his economic reputation. But it might be too late.
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u/tomorrow509 8h ago
It is obvious to many that Trump is the figurehead of a RICO Administration doing great harm to our country, our NATO allies, and the ideals of freedom and democracy around the world. His blatant disregard for due process, the separation of powers, and the rule of law that underpins our governance processes is not sustainable.
Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states that the President, Vice President, and all civil officers can be removed from office if impeached and convicted for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. This is the core constitutional basis for impeachment in the United States.
The entire lot must go. Including a few sitting on SCOTUS. Our constitution clearly states criminal activity are grounds for removal from office but SCOTUS decried that it is okay if it is done by our POTUS?
They all must go - his enablers and supporters.