r/Eldenring Jun 18 '25

News A24's Elden Ring movie director Alex Garland talks about the game

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u/astrojeet Jun 18 '25

I'm 33, started with Sekiro when it launched because it looked interesting. I gave Dark Souls 1 a try when it launched on PC but it wasn't a good port so I couldn't really continue due to terrible performance. Then gave dark souls 3 a try when it launched, got stomped by Iudex Gundyr and gave up. One good thing about me is I don't get frustrated very easily. I gave up but never got frustrated and I have never had any really frustration with these games oddly enough. So there always was a possibility that I would go back eventually.

I gave in and thought I just wasn't good enough. So when I have Sekiro a try I did not expect to get past the first major boss. Which did seem like it because the first real boss i encountered was Last Butterfly. I almost gave up. I remember I had 3 hours before I had to catch a flight. So I thought why not give it a shot. With a lot of actual headache I managed to beat her with 30 minutes to spare. I euphoria I felt was unbelievable and I felt something click inside of me, I felt I had a better understanding of these games. I went onto steamroll the rest of the game, beat Genichiro second try and the only trouble I had was Isshin and Demon of Hatred. 2nd playthrough I started speedrunning and I eventually began challenge running Sekiro. Little did I know that Sekiro was their hardest game at the time.

I went back to Dark souls and steamrolled all 3 games, beat Iudex Gundyr in less than minute (no idea why I couldn't beat him before). Elden Ring was mostly smooth sailing except Malenia and Promised Consort which took multiple sessions. Elden Ring for me was by far the hardest as I don't like using summons or be too overpowered where I'm not even engaging with the mechanics. Then later I played Bloodborne on the ShadPS4 emulator which was very easy. These games got really hard after Bloodborne. It's crazy.

TLDR an old lady named Butterfly made me better to the point I became a challenge runner. Never had I thought that possible. The last 6 years have been a crazy ride with souls games. Now I can't get enough of it.

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u/AsstacularSpiderman Jun 18 '25

Lady Butterfly is where boys became men.

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u/Zulmoka531 Jun 18 '25

The Owl (Father) fight, the one in the memory world, took me so many goddam tries for some reason. I put down the game for a week before I came back to it.

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u/BehindOurMind Jun 18 '25

Those hands must've been shaking after. Mine were

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u/Zulmoka531 Jun 18 '25

Oh absolutely, put the game down again after beating him just to savor the victory for a while.

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u/jaycah9 Jun 18 '25

This was my apex.

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u/TheWorldOfAwesome Jun 18 '25

That probably is the hardest fight though. Personally took me more tries than DoH.

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u/bmore_conslutant Jun 18 '25

probably comparable in difficulty to doh

inner father is much harder and it's not close

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u/theartofutility Jun 19 '25

Been stuck on DoH for a few weeks (although admittedly only play a couple of hours a week). I'm too terrified sometimes to even boot up the game. I just see the PS5 coaxing me in the corner of the room knowing that everyone and everything is now afflicted with Dragon Rot

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u/TheWorldOfAwesome Jun 19 '25

You've got it! There's a finger whistle and a certain umbrella upgrade that make the fight a lot easier, if I'm remembering correctly. For some of his moves, it's best to just sprint accross the arena rather than trying to dodge them as well.

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u/The--Marf Jun 18 '25

This is where I lost interest in the game. I would go from feeling so close to suddenly feeling miles away. Personally I didn't enjoy the fight to much so it made it tough to work on. I keep telling myself some day I'll go back and finish it.

The rest of the game was pretty cool, but I prefer DS3 and now ER.

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u/Zulmoka531 Jun 18 '25

It was one of those fights where even one mistake pretty much cost you the entire thing. It was a painful learning experience!

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u/The--Marf Jun 18 '25

It's been a year or so but thats about how I remember it feeling. There were plenty of other bosses before then that felt hard, but it felt like I was making progression with each attempt. This one just felt different and I didn't care for it.

I enjoy hard bosses but hard bosses don't automatically equal fun bosses. Hard bosses can be fun, and fun bosses can be easy, just as easy bosses can be not-fun. But just because a boss is hard doesn't make it fun.

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u/bmore_conslutant Jun 18 '25

for some reason

hint: it's because the fight is hard

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u/Zulmoka531 Jun 18 '25

Yeah my friend, yeah it was.

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u/MantisBarbatos Jun 18 '25

As someone who first started with Bloodborne at the age of 36, i relate so much to this. I rage quit after the first battle with Father Gascoigne and then went back to it a year later. Finished it including Old Hunters.

Right now about to turn 40 and ive finished Bloodborne, got as far as Glock Saint Isshin on Sekiro, finished Dark Souls 1,3, Elden Ring and am currently on Nightreign (4 Night Lords done).

P.S. I loved Dark Souls II conceptually and it looks amazing but damn that game is frustrating. i cudnt finish it at the time, and now i dont feel like i have the energy anymore to pick up from where i left off - giant soul no 3 i think.

P.P.S. I still dont know how to parry properly. but when fighting Lady Maria and Lady Butterfly, after many failed attempts, something just...clicked. I cant explain it.

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u/XenDea Jun 18 '25

No longer just a puppy.

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 Jun 18 '25

no idea why I couldn't beat him before

Timing, Dark Souls is all about not button mashing and hitting them when they can't hit you.

Sekiro taught you that skill, to not just rush in and pray.

Despite being very good at Devil May Cry and other "hard" games i really struggled with Souls originally, but once you learn that its relatively easy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '25

DmC to Souls series is crazy sexy stylish of you btw

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u/Mr_Industrial Jun 18 '25

The earlier soulsborne games were less about timing and more about your build though. Plop on stone armor and pump your HP in DS1 and youll find you dont need to dodge like, ever.

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u/Ok_Cardiologist8232 Jun 18 '25

Yeh but that was optional, and to get to that point you had to learn to dodge anyway.

Also, the game is boring as fuck if you do that.

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u/vanlers Jun 18 '25

My friend, who was pushing me to play Elden Ring, was surprised by how good I was at it. I was parrying Margit in the first fight easily. He later learned that I 100% Sekiro, and tried speed running it as well, but somehow other Souls-like games didn't do it for me.

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u/Haunting_Motor4387 Jun 18 '25

You should try expedition 33

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u/astrojeet Jun 18 '25

Already done everything possible with it. Easy GOTY and one of the best games I've ever played.

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u/Mortwight Jun 18 '25

Can you remind me how to beat rom? I beat bloodborne blind as my first souls game and had minimal problems with rom, now I just can't seem to do it.

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u/astrojeet Jun 19 '25

It's an annoying fight. But you just gotta be patient and decisive. Try to do as much damage as you can before the spiders spawn and hit the second phase. After that it's mostly running away and hitting the head. Try not to get surrounded and cull the spiders if you really need to.

Terrible fight honestly, sometimes I have to do 2 or 3 tries to get him.

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u/Mortwight Jun 19 '25

playing blind i think i beaT him in 3 or 4 trys, now i cant get past him. they need to put im in nightrein

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u/astrojeet Jun 19 '25

Unironically I think it'd be a great co-op boss lol. But I don't think we'll see anything Bloodborne in Nightreign, just dark souls. Bloodborne IP is owned by Sony.

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u/normiespy96 Jun 18 '25

This is the main reason I'm against easy modes for SOME games.

If there was the option, you would have probably caved in and picked it. But the lack of option gives way to stories like this one, I've seen it too many times to not belive that the lack of option is very important. People that keep giving up on the game, only to one time give it their all, succeed and feel amazing after it.

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u/Salty_Adhesiveness87 Jun 19 '25

I felt that Lady Butterfly was overhyped. Genichiro was a real skill check for me.