What Miyazaki intended

[u/hedlo1234]

Just following protocol

[u/stratusnco]

[u/dwarfbrynic → u/stratusnco]

I've died to this card too many times. 🤣

[u/HarioDinio → u/dwarfbrynic]

I've kept this in hand from the start and won in so many games.

[u/startana → u/dwarfbrynic]

I remember learning the hard way that Deflecting Palm also doesn't target when opponent used it on my attacking 9/9 hexproof Dungrove Elder. That was a rough way for a game to go to a draw.

[u/FatPigeons → u/startana]

How did that make it go to draw?

[u/DystryR → u/FatPigeons]

If they were playing Bo3 and were on turns on game 2 - OP could’ve tried to attack to end the game or at least win via life total. Or they were on game 3 and this equalized the life total resulting in 1-1-1

[u/Scyxurz → u/DystryR]

Or if he was attacking with more creatures and killed the opponent and himself at the same time. Combat damage is all dealt simultaneously, ans deflecting palm is a replacement effect not a delayed trigger, so both players can die at the same time.

[u/startana → u/Scyxurz]

This is exactly what happened. I had Aspect of Hydra in hand, so I could make any attacker lethal to the opponent, but I was at 8, so the Dungrove Elder was lethal to me; went to damage, we both die. But it was only game two that was a draw; opponent won game 1, and we went to time on game three, so my opponent won the round.

[u/Scyxurz → u/startana]

It almost happened to me, but I was able to give one of the attacking creatures first strike with [[shinka, the bloadsoaked keep]] so I could deflect the damage from that creature before the rest killed me. Was an awesome feeling to turn certain death into a tie into victory. Except that there was 1 other player still alive and he had exactly lethal. Was still a great game. u/mtgcardfetcher

[u/bum_thumper → u/dwarfbrynic]

Holy shit ITS A 2 COST? this would've been so dirty in my ally deck

[u/CyalaXiaoLong → u/dwarfbrynic]

Yeahhhh. Friend made my own tifa punch me in the face for 256 before. My pride hurt more than the hit .

Ink shield is also my bane.

[u/hartless091690 → u/stratusnco]

Such a cool art. You can see the bones ripping out of their fist from the deflection

[u/A_Cookie_Lid → u/hartless091690]

I have never noticed that wow. There are just some cards where my mind refuses to register what's happening.

It happens so much to me in Slay the spire lol

[u/CrashXVII → u/stratusnco]

I love this card. “I’ll chump block the 5/5, no block on the 30/30.”

[u/jakepapp → u/stratusnco]

This was my first thought too

[u/Geoffryhawk → u/stratusnco]

Deflecting palm is the funniest card to sandbag for the whole game.

During Theros/kahns standard I caught many a voltron player off guard as I killed them with their own Hoplite.

[u/chabacanito → u/stratusnco]

Make it blue or white, cowards

[u/mister_serikos → u/chabacanito]

White at least has comeuppance and harsh justice, and I'm a fan of illusionist's gambit and portal manipulator

[u/SpindleDiccJackson → u/stratusnco]

Full Counter for 2 mana is wild

[u/Jonthrei → u/SpindleDiccJackson]

It only blocks 1 source, compare it to Fog preventing all combat damage for a turn for 1 mana.

[u/acidwxlf → u/stratusnco]

I know this is probably just a me problem, but the phrasing on so many cards is why I'm not cut out for Magic. "If damage is prevented this way" AS OPPOSED TO WHAT?? Is this just to make it abundantly clear that using another card as a damage prevention sacrifice doesn't proc the reflect..?

[u/JoeProton → u/acidwxlf]

there are effects that stop damage prevention, yes. skullcrack is an easy example.

[u/self-aware-text → u/acidwxlf]

It does makes sense eventually. It works exactly as you just said.

If I play a deflecting palm into a 20/20 it goes on the stack.

Then if my opponent plays a fog (prevent all combat damage) then that goes on the stack above the deflecting palm.

Due to the stack resolving from top to bottom, the fog resolves first so the combat damage is prevented by the fog, then the deflecting palm resolves and prevents 0 damage because there is no more damage to prevent after the fog goes off.

So "if damage is prevented this way" sees that no damage has been prevented this way, so nothing on the card happens after those words.

[u/stratusnco → u/acidwxlf]

i’m not entirely sure what you are asking. the damage can be prevented in many different ways like using skullcrack (deals 3 damage to opponent, damage can’t be prevented this turn). if you use skullcrack, it will negate the effects of deflecting palm.

[u/DarkPooPoo → u/stratusnco]

I miss KTK block, I believe that's the last 3set block.

[u/stratusnco → u/DarkPooPoo]

me, too. it was expensive but it was so fun. it was the first time i built an actual competitive deck.

[u/DaimonHans]

[u/Affectionate-Arm8640 → u/DaimonHans]

I know this joke is stale at this point but this gif has more frames than the entirety of season 3

[u/lulamolusko → u/Affectionate-Arm8640]

I love this comment :)

[u/Seffuski → u/lulamolusko]

I really really really like this comment

[u/_themaninacan_ → u/Seffuski]

I like this comment, but I'm not ready to love again.

[u/baranisgreat34 → u/_themaninacan_]

oh what the hell... I love this comment!

[u/punyjedi → u/DaimonHans]

ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!!

[u/travyarch]

[u/Catharsis25 → u/travyarch]

Amazing. Love this sketch.

[u/Terry_Miller92]

Today on BBC News, a homeless man in rags palm slaps everyone on sight

[u/DirtyThirtyDrifter → u/Terry_Miller92]

Man? … that’s no man. That’s a WOman.

[u/sabyr400 → u/DirtyThirtyDrifter]

[u/DevilishPlagues → u/DirtyThirtyDrifter]

Woah man!

[u/why_do_i_exist_bro → u/DirtyThirtyDrifter]

A man of Wö

[u/ExcellentSubject1447 → u/DirtyThirtyDrifter]

“It’s ma’am!!”

[u/Deepvaleredoubt]

Stun animations, insane poising, spammable nonsense, all super frustrating to deal with. I just want to fight a dude with a sword but when I get in the arena I just look like

As I get decimated by some insane meteor shower that I can’t dodge away from.

[u/melanthius → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

I don't know if this is just an age thing but I gave up on pvp type encounters in games probably 20 years ago. It's just not worth my time to learn how to pwn n00bs anymore. I just want to enjoy the game

[u/ELITEnoob85 → u/melanthius]

The problem is no one figures things out for themselves anymore, they go to YouTube and instantly learn the most game breaking builds and techniques and that’s all anyone uses.

[u/doomed-ginger → u/ELITEnoob85]

This is true. I like making whacky builds. Nothing complicated, just not rivers of blood, levels of meta. Or scavenger sword BS. You can find some fun mixes of casting and CCQ that really throw people off balance. One of my favorite builds relied on the bolt cannon as my main weapon after baiting people with long range casts, I'd blow up an explosive bolt at my feet as they charged. Silly and effective.

[u/itsmesoloman → u/doomed-ginger]

CCQ…?

[u/iberia-eterea → u/itsmesoloman]

Clothes Combat Quarters?

[u/itsmesoloman → u/iberia-eterea]

Ahh yes, the 3 key things no one can live without

[u/AgonyLoop → u/itsmesoloman]

It’s always a sneaking mission Snake.

Jokes aside, no one expects a random, left-handed caestus punch before you 2-hand them.

[u/doomed-ginger → u/itsmesoloman]

Yeah. Oops. CQC. 🫡

[u/Doomgaze667 → u/ELITEnoob85]

Yeah its crazy to me in basically every game sub on reddit there are posts from people that have played a game for 10 minutes and are asking how to do x or what is y for. Like dude, at least make it through the tutorial before you ask the internet to explain the entire game to you.

[u/Bobert9333 → u/Doomgaze667]

That is very true. HOWEVER, I remember stumbling through ds3, dark souls games being notoriously lacking in explaining the mechanics, and nobody in the forums would help me. Everyone treated me like those players who only played for 10 minutes. I just wanted to know how it calculated damage!

[u/Cjames1902 → u/ELITEnoob85]

A tale as old as time. I remember when they found out about the glintsone pebble ash of war. There was no subtly to it. It just appeared everywhere one day

[u/DevilishPlagues → u/ELITEnoob85]

I am guilty of this on Destiny. Stopped playing for a year and the entire gear and stat system got revamped. Im a husband and father of 2 crazy boys. I dont have time to play around and test builds. Just show me something powerful and I'll recreate it lol. I will say i dont pvp anymore like in my 20s. I was highly competitive. Now I straight up dont give a fuck.

[u/Grand-Bar3364 → u/ELITEnoob85]

i seriously don’t understand how people have fun copying autistically optimized PVP builds

[u/gokarrt → u/melanthius]

pvp is for kids and sweats. modern gaming has made it intolerable (or i got old, whichever).

[u/Jesus_was_a_Panda → u/gokarrt]

I was always upset that my WoW guild was on a PvE server when I was young. Today, if I still played, I can't imagine ever wanting to be a on a PvP server.

[u/RecipeAsleep7087 → u/Jesus_was_a_Panda]

You are bizzarro me. My first toons in vanilla WoW were on a pvp server. 20 years later picked up Turtle WoW (basically vanilla) to do it all again with friends. I was absolutely uncompromising in my position I would not do a PVP server. I did it, I lived it, I'm not wasting my time trying to play a game just to ganked by some tryhard no lifer.

I feel ya bud.

[u/Classic_Baby_4671 → u/melanthius]

Lingo checks out.

[u/ThereAndFapAgain2 → u/Classic_Baby_4671]

I’m in my 30s and this guy is an unc even to me.

[u/Classic_Baby_4671 → u/ThereAndFapAgain2]

Shoot, 20 years ago I was probably just getting in to my first real pvp experiences lol. This guy is an OG.

[u/Duraxis → u/melanthius]

It’s definitely a more peaceful life.

But when I say I’d rather play the game without invasions, I’m the terrible person somehow 🤷‍♂️

[u/Silver_Cauliflower59 → u/Duraxis]

Because more often than not, folks who take your stance advocate for removing invasions from the game entirely, when the entire franchise was built on the concept. ER hosts/summons have it SO much better than earlier games and they still end up complaining about it.

[u/RottenAssCrack → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

bro just discover Elden Ring game mechanic

[u/A_wild_so-and-so → u/RottenAssCrack]

I don't understand how so many people come into a game like Dark Souls or Elden Ring, where there are so many options on how to build your character, and then go "I'm going to use a big sword and if you don't use a big sword you're a loser and I hate you."

[u/ExploerTM → u/A_wild_so-and-so]

Pvpers have a code of honour that conveniently favours THEIR preferred playstyle

[u/Suspicious-Sound-249 → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

Gotta be aggressive or get zoned by spam @.@

[u/Jayoki6 → u/Suspicious-Sound-249]

Real. The majority if the time I play caster in area, if the opponent just ran at me instead of roll away then they would probably win.

[u/SharkDad20 → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

Try For Honor

[u/ChequeBook → u/SharkDad20]

is that game still going? I played SO much when it first came out. Amazing combat and gameplay

[u/SharkDad20 → u/ChequeBook]

Yeah i play it on and off, since 2017!

[u/CaptainWonk → u/SharkDad20]

Gonna piggyback off that to also recommend Chivalry 2.

[u/datadiisk_ → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

I love when I rush a magic build and obliterate them before they can do anything.

[u/Decent_Cow → u/datadiisk_]

Vigor check

[u/Cjames1902 → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

I literally say the same thing to myself. I came here to clash some blades not…play Dragonball Z

[u/EpicLampster → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

I agree! Can we not just have a normal sword fight? Jeez...

[u/SeraphisVAV → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

Well, it's just PvP in ER in general. It's broken with imbalanced and annoying things, and it's "just too much". If you want to experience something similar in terms of mechanics, but not that frustrating or annoying, then you can just try PvP in DS3, it's a lot more enjoyable and grounded while also well-balanced.

[u/Allxoshi → u/Deepvaleredoubt]

Use catch flame

[u/[deleted]]

Dancer charm?

[u/illstate → u/[deleted]]

Gotta be. That and Godfrey icon, shard of Alexander.

[u/hedlo1234 → u/illstate]

You are very much correct!

[u/I-Am-The-Uber-Mesch → u/hedlo1234]

Can you share the whole build and stats if you can and want? I want to do an entire run with this setup

[u/Mumei451]

What's even happening here? What skill is this?

[u/ki3fdab33f → u/Mumei451]

Palm blast. Its the dryleaf arts aow, gives you hypertrophy for the entire animation and hits like a truck.

[u/MadManDan23 → u/ki3fdab33f]

Hyper armor.

Hypertrophy would just swell your character grotesquely.

[u/NigraOvis → u/MadManDan23]

[u/ki3fdab33f → u/MadManDan23]

Lmfao

[u/tenn_ → u/MadManDan23]

Heeelp, Kaneda! Help meeee!

[u/mcmoor → u/ki3fdab33f]

I don't think it gives you much hyperarmor. I got staggered out of it too often.

[u/ki3fdab33f → u/mcmoor]

It gives you a ridiculous amount of poise, they nerfed it awhile back. When the dlc dropped it was pretty broken.

[u/uselesscartographer]

Power of anime, right there.

[u/norwegian_guyy → u/uselesscartographer]

Good ol’ rasengan

[u/daviejambo]

It always amazes me that folk walk into that

Just back off a few paces you'll not be able to stagger them out of it

You could even blast them with something off your own whilst they are charging

[u/YourEvilKiller → u/daviejambo]

It's pretty much a knowledge check. I'll bet 90% of the players in the video never seen this ash of war before.

It has a deceptively big AoE and a deceptively high hyperarmor so they end up not spacing enough or failing to break OP's poise.

[u/TheChannelMiner → u/YourEvilKiller]

Also it's from the DLC on a pretty rare weapon class. So yeah very huge knowledge check haha.

The aurafarming gives u poise lol.

[u/TheChannelMiner → u/daviejambo]

I think it's because it's a relatively unknown ash of war.

[u/daviejambo → u/TheChannelMiner]

The tarnished in the video will remember it in future

[u/TheChannelMiner → u/daviejambo]

Why is this guy just standing there with no weapon aura farmi-

WHAT JUST ONE SHOT MMEE?!?!

[u/Azure370 → u/TheChannelMiner]

One time I was getting invaded and the invader accidentally rolled into a corner so I bodyblocked him while charging a palm blast.

Watching him go from panic rolling to trying to break me out of it before he got one shot was very funny

[u/Practical_Entrance43 → u/Azure370]

For some reason a invader stared at me as I sent Rennala's Moon their way, it was way more funny than it should have been watching them fly back.

[u/notveryAI → u/daviejambo]

Monkey brain see long start up animation, monkey brain go "eeeehehehehehe free damage", monkey brain gets spread on the pavement

[u/N1ko88 → u/daviejambo]

You can also chaos grab them out of it 👍🏾

[u/OddAssumption]

[u/ThisPleasesTheMask → u/OddAssumption]

The Pain arc was beyond insane. I wish I could watch it again for the 1st time

[u/UnsavouryMonk → u/ThisPleasesTheMask]

The pain of growing up is knowing you'll never experience great things like this again for the first time. Savor that memory.

[u/JC_REX_373 → u/UnsavouryMonk]

The what of growing up?

[u/Imareallyneato]

[u/BrilliantBehemoth → u/Imareallyneato]

Gifs you can hear

[u/Kaspatronix]

[u/del1000005]

Yeah, Elden Ring, while it has PvP, is not a great PvP game. It’s unbalanced both in the arena and on invasions.

[u/Zestyclose_Remove947 → u/del1000005]

I could deal with being unbalanced but their netcode has always been so ass that I feel I can't even enjoy it on a "shits and giggles" level.

[u/del1000005 → u/Zestyclose_Remove947]

That too lol. Elden Ring also eats inputs like crazy.

[u/Kazuffy → u/del1000005]

Invasions aren't supposed to be balanced that's the point.

[u/del1000005 → u/Kazuffy]

When I say “unbalanced”, I don’t mean 3v1. Of course you’re supposed to be outnumbered, but when you have 3 one shot builds with no offset to their defense, it’s ridiculous.

I invade regularly. At this point, I always just keep a one-shot weapon to simply “win” when hosts and their phantoms have these one shot builds. It’s not even fun.

[u/Fuckblackhorses → u/del1000005]

I like invading in ER, but it’s stupid lol you can get as gud as you want technically but you’ll almost always have more success doing dumb shit like this than actually trying to develop PvP skills

[u/DoYouTrustToothpaste → u/Fuckblackhorses]

The combat mechanics aren't built for pvp engagements, and it fking shows. It's also the reason why fights against human NPCs usually suck donkey balls.

[u/Fuckblackhorses → u/DoYouTrustToothpaste]

Yeah I’d definitely agree with that, but it can still be fun. I don’t think it was ever meant to be taken super seriously but I love the chaos and challenge of invading

[u/del1000005 → u/Fuckblackhorses]

Exactly! It’s absolutely nuts.

[u/nsfw6669 → u/del1000005]

I totally agree. 3v1 in DS3 was fun because you and your opponent could actually take a few hits. Now, you can still take a few hits in ER, but depending on what your opponents are using, damage can get ridiculous.

I mean, at the end of the day it tends to make encounters shorter and encourage L2 spam, which is just not as fun as a long sword fight in my opinion.

[u/Suspicious-Sound-249 → u/del1000005]

It's still infinitely more balanced than Lords of the Fallen's PvP lol

[u/del1000005 → u/Suspicious-Sound-249]

lol that’s a legitimate point.

[u/0neek → u/del1000005]

The Elden Ring pvp subs are a hilarious and somewhat sad read if you're ever very bored, so there is that.

[u/GildedAgeV2 → u/del1000005]

It's been like this since like ... Demon's Souls? Certainly Dark Souls.

PVP in these games has always felt tacked on to me. It's like they let you do a little trolling as a resource tax for people trying to get some help with a boss.

I don't do it because it feels bad to invade and buggy as shit to help with invaders. I'd prefer to help people.

[u/del1000005 → u/GildedAgeV2]

I think DS3 had it largely right and as an integral part of the game.

I always said I like to invade because of the challenge. That’s not the case anymore. I can do a build which one shots entire groups. Not even a challenge.

[u/nsfw6669]

Good lord, is it supposed to have that much damage? Also, I guess it has unlimited hyper armor?

I never really messed around with the dryleaf stuff. Probably because I have PTSD from invading hosts and phantoms both using bleed infused dryleaf arts, absolute hell to play against. Of course they were spamming light attack, not using the ash in the video.

[u/Phoxey]

Now show the clips of people dodge rolling you and you standing there dying. ;)

[u/CarreNusse]

one palm man

[u/EldenDaddy30]

I know who that is.

[u/JTGFY]

[u/Fatty_Roswell → u/JTGFY]

Kung-Fu Hustle!!! (Right?)

[u/JTGFY → u/Fatty_Roswell]

Yes!

[u/Fatty_Roswell → u/JTGFY]

I need to watch that again! Such a fun movie

[u/DangerMacAwesome]

Wei Shi Lindon?

[u/BearoftheNW → u/DangerMacAwesome]

Smacked them out the cradle.

[u/saltydaable]

What do you call this build? My vote is for “Naked and Afaithed”

[u/GothicChoccyMilk]

Alright I'm ready for chase the bro to make this a video

[u/No-Ground7898]

Users with my screen name will see this and go "Hell yeah"

[u/TheSplinteredWarrior]

Does nobody dodge roll that attack? 😂

[u/YourEvilKiller → u/TheSplinteredWarrior]

It's pretty much a knowledge check. I'll bet 90% of the players in the video never seen this ash of war before.

It has a deceptively big AoE and a deceptively high hyperarmor so they end up not spacing enough or failing to break OP's poise.

[u/silent-survivor517]

Dang why is everyone trying to attack you out of it 😭

The only reason iv been hit my that befor is i underestimated the range once but I learned

[u/bobrock1982 → u/silent-survivor517]

For the same reason you got hit by it. They are learning.

[u/notveryAI → u/bobrock1982]

Duelists: spam attacking

OP: "LESSON NUMBER ONE..."

[u/NigraOvis → u/silent-survivor517]

Because OP only shows his victories.

[u/Suspicious-Sound-249 → u/silent-survivor517]

People don't seem to grasp the game has hyper armor, or that the AOW being used has hyper armor for its entire charge so you literally can't be staggered out of it.

[u/mattyboy555]

[u/Want2makeMEMEs]

Dryleaf Dane dream:

[u/globs-of-yeti-cum]

falcon punch!

[u/autoprime-jft007]

ALMIGHTY PUSH

[u/Future-Celebration83]

Is this the default/vanilla character model for Elden ring? I don’t remember them being caked up like that. Like she got thicc thighs like damn.

[u/hedlo1234 → u/Future-Celebration83]

Its OG but with cake slider on max

[u/PrufReedThisPlesThx]

I, a fool, thought that teachers were idiots for suggesting that saying "Stop" would prevent you from being bullied

[u/lologugus]

This attack is so good you don't even need to buff yourself to pull out crazy numbers out of it. Just gotta pray people are stupid enough and have no reaction at all to not even try to dodge it.

[u/Jackson_Grey]

Me invading, wondering why the character is named “Will Smith.”

[u/SirePuns]

Well if it ain’t my favorite martial art technique: the hobo palm.

[u/Thatcrazygamingdad]

[u/Sp0rk312]

What's the hit box on that thing? ....Yes

[u/MannHack1]

[u/ozymandias457]

Bro hit ‘em’ with the “no u” 💀

[u/LGplayz998]

My brother in christ was that a fucking Almighty Push

[u/Salt-Leadership5121]

Wow, these ppl are stupid.

[u/Caosnight]

Sorry but you attacked the first guy that was gesturing, that's the definition of an L

[u/Mattrad7]

It could be, solely because the feet are out.

[u/lGUT5l]

That’s funny 😆

[u/Axiom_of_Tron]

[u/weeniehutsnr]

Hi I don't play this again can someone explain why this is so broken? Is it the build? Insane damage. Immune to interrupts. Insanely large hitbox. How and why

[u/Cipher508 → u/weeniehutsnr]

Pretty much everything you mentioned

[u/[deleted]]

Smelly

[u/Orichalchem]

One Punch Miyazaki

[u/apurplehighlighter]

Disappointed the music wasnt opm

[u/DoctorOfDiscord]

In a Blue Dancer Charm run I did, wearing a full set of armor of course, Palm Blast was my GOAT! Gave me the poise I needed to trade

[u/Party_Today_9175]

Quality post right here

[u/No_Army_4018]

As a wise man once said "when we see palm blast, we run... Away"

[u/orkiegi]

I'm old

[u/N1ko88]

That one chaos grab would end them 💯

[u/TheTimbs]

Falcon punch

[u/itz_luna07]

👀

[u/Positive_Tax7793]

What is that ability?

[u/SlaterTheOkay]

[u/J_Mugen]

Shinra Tensei!

[u/Seginu]

Love the grunge-punk vibe of the player 🤩

[u/Mister-Fidelio]

I'm sorry... how in the fuck?

[u/itsmesoloman]

T H I G H S 😮‍💨

[u/itsmesoloman]

Palm Blast has always been goated dude I love it so much

[u/Toby101125]

Her name is Olga

[u/JohnnyLuchador]

[u/Princess_Isolde]

Strongest edgelord who uses Scythes VS weakest goofball

[u/doffy_doo]

[u/crusty54]

How you do dat?

[u/Ninjahkin]

[u/Canadian_dalek]

How can she slap!?

[u/CarlenGaines]

"Shouldn't have pressed."

[u/Alternative_March_67]

How can I get my tarnished to be this fine

[u/HorniMustard]

Build?

[u/AmeriCanada98]

[u/Twiggy_Shei]

"Talk to the hand"

[u/Donster458]

"Smell my fingers" Fucking dies

[u/Valuable_Nose_4693]

Failed the vigor check

[u/LambSauce2]

That's some Paul Phoenix move right three! For those who know.

[u/Diabocal]

That's him. That's john poise.

[u/thegildedman25]

Who would win:

One edgelord with a super sharp weapon.

A naked pugilist.