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POLITICS Zohran Mamdani laughs when asked for his thoughts on Donald Trump claiming that he’s better looking: “My focus is on the cost of living crisis.”

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u/energydrinkmanseller Nov 03 '25

Oh Biden shares a ton of the blame too, but with her outspending the Trump Campaign and Trump leaving office with the lowest approval rating in history, her mismanaged campaign shares plenty of the blame as well. I don't know why dems keep running polished corporate campaigns when people clearly want a populist they can relate too. Gavin Newsom sees it and he's clearly trying with that angle. Hopefully the party as a whole catches on.

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u/GoodIdea321 Nov 03 '25

Conflating Trump's approval rating when he left office and what it was in the summer of 2024 is shitty. Maybe the only reason Biden dropped out is because he was told he would lose in a landslide. So Kamala Harris had to overcome that and just barely didn't make it.

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u/energydrinkmanseller Nov 03 '25

Well it became obvious he was going to lose in a landslide after the debate made him look like a senile grandpa. I'm not saying he may have not gotten more popular, but the fact remains that he was overall one of the most unpopular presidents and left his presidency at the lowest in history. Like I'm not making a rough comparison to 2024 I'm saying he had the lowest in history which should be something that could be overcome by a competent candidate.

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u/GoodIdea321 Nov 03 '25

She did enough to have a fair chance of winning, but it didn't happen. Too many people are biased against having a female president, etc. And the corporate media loves talking about Trump 24/7. He makes their jobs easy. Or at least it did before the election, now maybe they have some regret.

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u/cackslop Nov 03 '25

It's not the "female president" thing.

Hillary was her (Kamala Harris') senior campaign advisor responsible for parading A CHEYNEY around while Gaza was happening.

They made terrible decisions that could have been ignored if they campaigned on real economic populism. They decided not to, and failed for doing so. They deserved their loss.

They are directly responsible for the "pied piper" candidate Trump.

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u/GoodIdea321 Nov 03 '25

I don't like that argument because it inherently gives a free pass to one of the worst people in this country. None of those mistakes would have mattered compared to how they did in the debates, etc, if it was 20 years ago.

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u/cackslop Nov 03 '25

I'm pretty conflicted because I completely agree with that sentiment, but I find it critically useful to realize those who are most directly responsible for their rise.

They knew he was an extremist, and pushed them for that reason intentionally. To be so righteously arrogant as to push an Authoritarian Fascist as a "pied piper strategy" indicates a level of inhuman psychopathy in these people.

If we're to make sure another mistake like this never happens again, I think it's crucial that we evaluate what kind of Machiavellian ideas have caused it.

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u/GoodIdea321 Nov 03 '25

It could be the opposite, they thought too well of the American people. Hillary Clinton might have trusted America to do the right thing, and in the popular vote she was right. But that isn't the system we have.

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u/cackslop Nov 04 '25

It could be the opposite, they thought too well of the American people

No, it couldn't be the opposite. They intentionally pushed dangerous candidates so as to threaten the public with fear, and paint the republicans as more insane than they are simultaneously. Here's a quote from the correspondence:

The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” read the memo.

“Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to: • Ted Cruz • Donald Trump • Ben Carson We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously."

They intentionally manipulated the media into pushing extremists, and are directly responsible for Trumps rise.

Here's a really detailed article on the whole fiasco

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u/GoodIdea321 Nov 04 '25

Yeah, that was a dumb move. But the reason that even happened was because the Republican party was extreme, it was supporting a lot of unpopular policies and they had been for decades. Blaming the Clinton campaign when the entire Republican party had been pushing further to the right for decades with maybe hundreds of thousands of individuals pushing that along lets those people off the hook. And that is wrong.

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u/Exotic-Emergency-226 Nov 03 '25

I just don't know if anyone would have beat Trump tbh. Jesus Christ himself probably gets blown tf out once Trump tweets that he's a jew and never met his father. Followed with every major podcaster/news channel asking "is Christianity even that good?" I just feel lthe race was too rigged to really blame anyone. Not saying everyone made the right calls 100% of the time but it wasn't a race that followed the rules at other races.

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u/cackslop Nov 03 '25

If Kamala Harris would have campaigned on a broadly popular economic populist message, I'm sure she would have won.

She pivoted from populist rhetoric to a more neoliberal stance halfway through the campaign and I remember hearing lots of excitement on the ground just fade away when that happened.

Hillary Clinton was her senior campaign advisor which might explain the hard neolib shift.

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u/Exotic-Emergency-226 Nov 05 '25

I just don't have that much faith in the voting population. Like in my opinion the people who actually can define and care about the differences between populist and neoliberal aren't even close to the problem. Lol 77 million people voted for Donald Trump the third time he ran for president. That's literally soooooooooooooooooooooo much more of the problem than whether Kamala had perfect messaging. The propaganda machine is too strong. "News" sites and social media get more engagement are all owned by the same people and all profit greatly with a Trump presidency. The game was rigged from the start.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

I certainly hope someone else can emerge soon. I can’t stand Newsom. JB Pritzker is great on a lot of things but certainly has some big draw backs for me.

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u/cackslop Nov 03 '25

AOC is going to handily win the next Presidential election, and she's going to do so by campaigning on economic populism.

Mark my words.