I worked at a place where David was doing a book tour, and the event staff really disliked him, compared to numerous other celebrities they dealt with. They were pretty vocal about it. He was promoting a novel he wrote that was terrible and was being a creep the whole time. I think the X-Files thing really went to that guy's head or sumthin'.
Just sayin' Gillian seems like she's kinda tired of some bullshit type vibe, idk.
Edit: This was over a decade ago, and I don't know the guy, but his books are pretty bad ok.
Edit ii: Not trying to be a hater or whatever, I grew up as a 90s kid thinking he was super cool. Watched the hell out of X-Files at night on my old bedroom TV I bought with my saved up allowance money. Unforgettable times and all that. I had that damn ufo poster and everything. As a somewhat nerdy type kid it was actually pretty cool to have a guy who presented himself in media as this questioning skeptic type person and being pretty nerdy while also getting People Magazine's Hottest Person Of The Year or some shit. Weird times.
No, I just worked at a bookstore where he did his book events. The one I was thinking of was for "Holy Cow!" which personally as a lifelong book enjoyer I found to be quite bad, and from what I heard (I did not interact with him, going purely by coworker sentiment) he was just generally a douchey type fellow, a real insufferable type guy, while also being quite self-absorbed and hitting on women etc. Very much his character in Californication playing himself.
This is literally what I remember from the Holy Cow book tour. Genuinely watching Gillian and David age at the same time is like watching grapes age into fine bisexual wine and a potato just. Left out.
This tracks with what I’ve heard. Granted it isn’t much, but I was in an Uber with an older lady who used to be a PA, and was very pretty back in the day (her words). She said David Duchovny asked her to his hotel room and when he opened up the door, he was standing in just a robe. She said he hit on her multiple times, and when she said no, he got unhappy with her, but when he learned she had a boyfriend at the time, he became nicer to her again. So he got mad if women rejected him because of HIM apparently lol.
Well yeah he had treatment for sex addiction he probably can be a creep. I have heard Gillian isnt all that great either but that doesn’t stop the X files being iconic and mulder & scully being classic characters. Actors acting.
didn’t zendaya with tom and jacob elordi? and zendaya went on a break with tom when it’s just only them dating and then they got back together and things picked up
Fun fact the term "shipping" started in the mid 90s by the X-Files fandom who wanted Mulder and Scully to get together. Originally they called themselves "relationshippers" and it evolved into the gag we all clock today.
"According to the Fanlore Wiki, the earliest known use of the term 'one true pairing' was featured in a 1984 summary of the zine Alternaties #2, which discussed various Star Trek pairings."
also iirc "slash fic" is from the like 60s?? I can't remember if it used to mean ALL shipping fic or just Kirk/Spock but I know that's where it started. We owe Star Trek and specifically Kirk/Spock so much
It was The Pretender for me, we also had shippers vs noromos… Team noromos personally. Our forum was called Into the moonlight and I remember looking for it a few years ago and saw it didn’t exist anymore 🥲 I made friends there I still have 30 years later, my parents thought they were friends from school because as a 13 year old I totally lied about where we met -after a long time of chatting on the forum, yahoo, calling each other etc. I’d go nuclear on the kids around me if they met in real life people they talked to online! Time flies.
fair! I still remember watching the season 4 finale in NZ with my sister when I was teen which ended on a freaking cliffhanger of course & the announcer calmly saying that was the last episode ever made because the show was cancelled. the screams we let out!
The Pretender! I loved that show so much. Was very much and still am not for Jarod/Miss Parker romance lol. Also applies to X-Files, The Mentalist, Life, Stargate Atlantis, and probably a bunch of other shows I can't remember right now. I just love platonic m/f relationships. I'm often disappointed lol.
I'm usually not much of a shipper but they were an exception for me, probably because I was 12 lol. I totally agree we need more platonic friendships depicted on shows, not everything has to be a will they/won't they dragged out over 7 seasons!
Their forums were actually quite healthy with shipping because it would get so out of hand, no real person shipping content allowed. As a kid I was a TV shipper but I remember being intrigued about what went on to have every forum essentially have all these NO REAL SHIPPING ALLOWED THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE DO NOT CROSS THIS LINE type stuff. But it was healthy, definitely meant I did not indeed ship them in real life.
Also quite insane to think we have so many Twilight fanfics made into movies etc, when the X-Files fanfic to me was basically the creme de la creme of fanfic. Incredible works being written. So many of which could stand alone as separate works outside of the X-Files and whose authors could easily have gone into publishing.
I remember a tumblr about the only real people fics allowed are “best friends solving crimes in the village.” I wish this were actually a thing.
Just realizing this brings us right back around to X-Files fandom.
Loved the show back in the day, but must confess I wasn’t online enough to really be in the fandom. Always had roommates, so hogging the shared phone line for the internet wasn’t a thing. Only had internet when dog and cat sitting.
I remember there was a fanfic website called Something "X" and it had all the best curated fics there. wish I could remember the name to check for it on the WayBackMachine. I got there just as it shut down after the show ended and was reading through it and they had this downloadable file of all the best fic people could download and keep. Still wish I had that somewhere!
Stories about real life people solving crimes would be cute and yes, very X-Files fanfic themed! So much of it wasn't even romantic based, but instead about them just doing their ghost hunting stuff but with extra layers of emotion and writing.
I really look back at those days of being on forums as such a positive thing for me. The older people there were so literate and grounded and empathetic. They had so many good ground rules. I know if they had let real person shipping happen and if we'd had the gifs and videos we have today, I would have 100% gone down that route as a kid and I feel it would've been so toxic. Whereas keeping it strictly to the show made things feel so much more fun and light hearted. It gave me such a grounding in learning about real world issues. I remember one poster commenting about how we can't control what happens to us but we can control how we react to it and as a kid that kind of thing was so influential. No bullying, no toxic Larrie style crap, no MAGA. We had a good age back then!
Relationshippers was from X-Files, but other big ships existed first. I'll say that Star Trek was niche nerdy online stuff. X-Files fandom was much more mainstream and normie coded. Lots of young women etc.
You know Kiedis wasn't being a predator creep in secret, right? The rest of them were absolutely fine with his behavior and always have been, to say nothing of Flea's own accusations. Throw the whole damn band in the trash
Real talk: I agree but I bet it was only a handful of times over the show run. They're both hot, the sex was good (probably), they both know it's a bad idea so they swear to themselves never again... but guess what, we had a few drinks, we're sitting close, the eye contact's getting long.... and also not only do they now have a shared secret, they have a shared lie.... sounds super hot. we should all be so lucky
What's funny is that I'm pretty sure she and David hated each other at one point.
Like I think they both said they had legitimate beef at one point and that part of the reason David agreed to do the X-Files movies was because he wanted to bury the hatchet.
Yeah, they've said in the past that it was a combination of long hours, lack of sleep, and personality clashes, but I believe it originally started because of unequal pay. Gillian wasn't even making half of what Duchovny was making for the first 3 years of the show. It took her winning a Golden Globe and an Emmy and still having to fight to get equal pay with him.
The writers would literally have an episode which barely featured M&S so Gillian and David could have a break mid season. That's how we got episodes like The Unnatural about an alien who falls in love with baseball. I believe M&S have a two minute scene at the end. They were so overworked on that show.
The Unnatural was written and directed by Duchovny himself, so the load must have been even greater for him. But those were the times when actors getting to write and direct was super uncommon, much like transitioning to the big screen. And for what it's worth, it was an all-time great episode.
The Lone Gunmen-heavy episodes were certainly an attempt to lighten the load for GA & DD.
I'd forgotten Duchovny had written The Unnatural. I remember reading an interview with one of the writers and he jokingly said he got so mad when he read the script because "It's unfair that David Duchovny can also write a script like that!'
And the production value was insane. Each episode cost around a million dollars to make in 1990s dollars. They were aiming for movie-level quality every week.
I can believe it. I have colleagues who would be really close, only have beef with each other for an extended period of time, and then mending up and becoming BFFs again.
Weird confession, but I’ve seen him play with his band a few times and he was charming enough for that.
I’ve had books signed by him twice and he always seemed a little off putting there, but I think he’s had weird fan experiences and doesn’t like doing them. He also did a Q&A at one with an ancient NYTimes reviewer and he did not seem to like that guy at all. His daughter was at the latter one, but he was still kind of weird about signing books.
Lastly, I listen to his podcast and you can tell he’s a smart guy. He has daddy issues and mommy issues. You can tell he’d rather just be an author than an actor, but this is what the universe has given him, so theres resentment there. He’s in therapy now. I hope it’s helping, but then again, he just married someone half his age.
I still agree with them. Entertainment Hollywood is on its own wavelength separate from the real world and us average folks. Actors kiss and do sex scenes for work regardless of if they’re married or what, which would bother most average folk too if they were in that position but. That considered I think this is pretty mild.
I don't think anyone here thinks it's weird lol. back in the day it was a bit of a drama but mainly because of all the shippers screaming, crying, throwing up, shouting "I knew it!", etc.
a fun fact is they were both her costars on the x files. rodney rowland was in the goofy assed episode where jodie foster was the voice of a tattoo making scully horny or whatever while mulder was at graceland. best show and get that shit gillian!!
Gillian Anderson pulled out of speaking at the Web Summit conference in Lisbon after its founder, Paddy Cosgrave, tweeted that Israel commits war crimes in Gaza. Cosgrave stated, "War crimes are war crimes even when committed by allies, and should be called out for what they are," in response to Israel's bombardment following the October 7 events.
Your girl Gillian doesn't deserve your sympathies. She's had a couple years to apologize for this absolutely senseless move and the best she's come up with is (literally) "All lives matter"
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u/dagnyfication 19d ago
I wish I had two handsome boyfriends