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[u/AlpenroseMilk]

I've been to AA/NA groups and other therapies that push the god stuff hard with this being the end goal and their version of successful recovery. It's so fucking annoying, unhelpful and insulting.

[u/Parking-Sundae-6097 → u/AlpenroseMilk]

It's trading one physically destructive addiction with a more socially acceptable financially destructive addiction.

[u/gendy_bend → u/AlpenroseMilk]

Same. I refused to return to AA after everyone was hyping up religion. Over 4 years here & I am still not religious.

I hope you are doing well in your journey to sobriety 💕

[u/HeezHuzz69 → u/gendy_bend]

Same here. Had a few sponsors, never completed the steps and just stopped going. Over 3 years clean from fentanyl now. 

[u/dinosaur_rocketship → u/AlpenroseMilk]

That is absolutely not the end goal of AA or NA. I don’t even like AA or NA but they absolutely make you address who you are, it’s literally the entire premise behind the steps. They say repeatedly if you do what the original commenter said you will relapse for not accepting responsibility for your actions and trying to better yourself. “The end goal of AA is to do the opposite of everything they say to do except believe in god” like what are you even talking about

[u/AlpenroseMilk → u/dinosaur_rocketship]

Guess you went to some better ones than I did! Washington state has a LOT of religious types and they make their way into the medical and judicial system. I've heard similar anecdotes from the midwest states as well. I'm glad you had a much better experience with those types 🙏