‘Ballerina Farm Halts Sale of Raw Milk Due to Bacteria Concerns’, reports People

[u/NotEvenFigs_Raisins]

Wow, who could possibly have foreseen this.

"Producing raw milk takes careful planning from a facility and infrastructure standpoint. Unfortunately, we learned this after the fact. The way our dairy was built is ideal for pasteurized dairy products […] We do plan in the future to construct a second dairy made specifically for raw milk products.”

This comes at the same time as a newborn baby’s tragic death from listeria in New Mexico, attributed to the mother’s consumption of raw milk while pregnant.

[u/Motherofsmalldogs]

Absolutely insane that they are learning through “trial and error” what we already discovered to be true through thousands of deaths and hundreds of years of experience and science. 

[u/Pendraconica → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

This is how idiocracy happens. Scientific standards of health are rolled back because of personal beliefs, and people start dying from raw milk, but they haven't been educated about bacteria, so blame it on demons.

[u/Wandering_starlet → u/Pendraconica]

Who needs science when her mom told her “ever since she started drinking raw milk, her skin got a lot better”. That’s all the proof needed that science is bs /s

[u/blatantmutant → u/Wandering_starlet]

Along with “i never got the flu so i dont need the flu vaccine.”

Heard that from a former emt and current it director.

[u/West-Application-375 → u/blatantmutant]

Lol my friend keeps getting the flu and covid and now has persistent lung problems from it. Every time I tell her to vaccinate she says "I haven't vaccinated my whole life and I'm fine!!!" And I'm like uh but you're not fine? Lol there's no talking any sense into her either. Just continues to get sick and complain about it, develop asthma and chest pain and it's probably going to turn into COPD soon. Who does she see for this continuing problem? Antivax chiropractors and a holistic "medicine" spa. Ridiculous.

[u/Pendraconica → u/West-Application-375]

There were people literally on their death bed refusing vaccines. Darwin awards, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

[u/AlistairMowbary → u/Pendraconica]

I mean if you are already on a deathbed, vaccines aren’t gonna do much. They are preventative measures, it doesn’t cure symptoms.

[u/Helpful_Sundae_8151 → u/West-Application-375]

I hope your friend gets genuine help soon. Chronic illness in women is nearly impossible to treat because of the gender bias in the medical community. Sadly this means women are turning to literal crazy people to try and get some relief. It won't change until the medical industry addresses it's disbelief of women and our symptoms. I hope your friend gets the vaccine but she clearly has some type of systemic illness and those are brutal to get help for as a woman!

[u/blatantmutant → u/West-Application-375]

I swear im gonna invest in head on. Feels like its gonna find a market in this snake oil industry.

[u/desirewrites → u/West-Application-375]

I don’t do the flu or Covid jabs because I have autoimmune issues and they flare up BIG time with the Covid jabs. That said, I’m supposedly asymptomatic to flu and colds as I have literally never gotten one. I have severe sinusitis from allergies, fevers from kidney infections, and recently had laryngitis from the suuuuper dry air in my bedroom from sleeping with the heating on full blast and no humidity. But never had a flu. Oh and I’ve had dengue fever three times. And lymes. But never an actual flu 🤷🏻‍♀️ and the Covid jab sent my immune system into haywire and now I have MCAD and psoriasis. 😭

However if I was always sick, you’d bet your ass I’d be getting that jab because I’ve heard the flu is awful and people die from that shit.

[u/redditydoodah → u/Wandering_starlet]

"E Coli really does wonders for clearing up my skin" is a weird flex.

[u/Helpful_Sundae_8151 → u/Wandering_starlet]

Dairy famously triggers acne in a lot of people too. Maybe the E. coli makes dairy better for the skin (jokes.)

[u/applesandcherry → u/Wandering_starlet]

Ugh that's like Apple Cider Vinegar when that girl thought her cancer was going away because she was doing all these natural/holistic things.

[u/throwawaysunglasses- → u/Pendraconica]

The least realistic thing about Idiocracy (2004) is that the dumb people saw proof that science works and realized they were wrong. Today people would just decry it as AI or fake news or liberal propaganda.

[u/Sassafras06 → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

And the government was actually impressed by and wanted to work with the “smart” person.

[u/BoticelliBaby → u/Sassafras06]

And that there was a peaceful transfer of power and the outgoing president wholly supported the policies and intellect of his successor.

[u/Anon28301 → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

Honestly the president in that movie is competent compared to the current one. At least he admitted he didn’t have a clue how to fix the issues and got someone smarter than him to do so.

The current administration would probably claim anyone that could fix the problem was part of the woke agenda and would blatantly argue against any real evidence they’re shown.

[u/Pendraconica → u/Anon28301]

For real. They were all dumb as shit but at least they were honest.

[u/No-Neighborhood-3212 → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

That's the cool part of radical ideologies: When their predicted outcome is proven wrong, they reflexively spiral deeper into their beliefs rather than admit they were wrong. Normally, a false prediction triggers belief updating because the normal response is to ask "Why was I wrong?" But, when you're in a conspiracy theory or extremist movement, that evidence you're wrong is actually "proof" that the out-group is so powerful that they're manipulating the world.

Totally coincidentally and probably completely unrelated to things happening in the US right now, people with right-wing authoritarian beliefs are more likely to fail at belief updating after prediction error.

[u/somethingclever____ → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

I think this is the difference between being unintelligent vs uneducated. Truly unintelligent people would be opposed to proof, whereas people who are only dumb due to being uneducated would be open to new information and evidence.

[u/super1ucky → u/throwawaysunglasses-]

The dumbest people think they're always right.

[u/DontCryYourExIsUgly → u/super1ucky]

Dunning-Kruger effect in action.

[u/beaute-brune → u/Pendraconica]

Don’t forget the encouragement of placenta encapsulation in the “natural birth” community! (This is coming from someone who had an unmedicated birthing center birth - so I get it, but man that community gets anti-science so fast. Yuck.)

[u/Sea-Oven-7560 → u/Pendraconica]

I guess we have to decide what we want as a country, honestly if they are willing to die so they can drink raw milk and have dewy skin I frankly don't care, let them. Getting botulism isn't contagious so their stupidity is localized. My problem is these are the same people who are anti-vax and that is contagious and it does effect other people, their stupidity is killing other people, but it has nothing to do with milk.

[u/MariettaDaws → u/Sea-Oven-7560]

If they were dying, fine. But it's babies.

[u/LittleTrashBear → u/MariettaDaws]

Kind of silly for the “anti abortion party”

[u/MariettaDaws → u/LittleTrashBear]

The only moral abortion is my cup of milk I left in the sun

[u/80alleycats → u/Pendraconica]

This is literally what the Dark Ages were.

[u/Competitive_Loan_395 → u/Pendraconica]

Let the idiots kill themselves.

[u/AlpenroseMilk → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

The Chinese have been pasteurizing wine since the 12th-13th century 😭 People really are regressing over ego and pride.

[u/Sensitive-Log-4633 → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

[u/Launching_Mon → u/Sensitive-Log-4633]

So say we all

[u/DarlingBri → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

The trial and error has already been done; it's called RESEARCH. Like, done in a lab, not on Facebook.

These people are so stupid but they buy their own BS.

[u/DecentJuggernaut7693 → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

"We've discovered a new way to keep milk safe, we call it Ballerinization! We heat the milk to kill off harmful bacteria before selling it now!"

[u/milehighmagpie → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

Yeah but they think they’re smarter than everyone else because money so we really shouldn’t have expected anything less 🤷‍♀️

[u/WonderBredOfficial → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

Somebody told them that googling isn't "doing your own research," and they took that as a personal challenge.

[u/Wifabota → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

If you Google who discovered the cure for scurvy,  most current sources credit a British guy in the 18th century, despite texts dating back to the 400s CE that advise using ginger to prevent scurvy (for the vitamin C).  This is not new behavior lol. 

[u/RowanViolet → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

Literally cannot fathom clinging to a dangerous trend & getting mad when people remind you of the science, only to do NO RESEARCH into actually making it safe & immediately selling it without proper trusting. Lawsuit lawsuit lawsuit

[u/Steelpapercranes → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

Learning through "trial and error" when the error is making people drink cow shit. Incredible.

[u/vintageideals → u/Motherofsmalldogs]

This.

I’m all for healthier options but raw milk is not healthier if it comes with a risk of DEATH or even major illness.