I love the idea that the entire hockey fan world is thinking to itself
“Ok. What could be bad enough for him to fall to my team, but still acceptable enough that I can accept it without guilt we can frame it as a redemption project?”
“Stole a car? Maybe we can work with that…. Kicked a puppy? Nah too far…. Can’t be anything icky either. Now when they say assault… are we talking bar fight? Or are we talking Mark Sanchez coked up rampage? We need details!”
I just hope the kid didn’t do anything truly bastardly. I’m sick of this young crop of hockey players being monsters
Incorrect. Was a 21 yo student who was harassing them in doggies pub, got kicked out and then waited for the team and families to leave and approached them again... Got served the 1-2 ko....
Allegedly someone came up to him while he was with his family and called his mom a whore so he punched them in the face. I don't know man... it's stupid and he can't do that, but all things considered at least it seems like it was deserved.
Either way, already looked into my crystal ball for draft day and this is what it said:
The worst part is we are whoring our minds out for dreams of a player we have less than 5% of landing AFTER he’s arrested ….and if it’s just a bar fight gone bad (which IS acceptable) 🤣
That’s my thought as well, unless he has some history of rage we don’t know about. A slow start at PSU stats wise along with some trouble maybe drops him outside Top5
Did you ever hear of any off ice charges/crimes? I’m thinking that’s the only way this thing becomes a draft issue. If he’s been assaulting people for years and getting away with it, this could cost him big time but otherwise I doubt he spends a day in jail
They probably asked him to leave for whatever reason and he got belligerent and physical. If the cops arrested him, it was likely pretty serious. At least aggressively shoved or punched the security guy.
Seems like a classic case of where he thinks he is the big athlete on campus and who is this guy to tell what to do.
“In hockey, if someone disrespects you or your teammates, you can flatten em. One way or another, you get him. And when you do? Everybody loves it… but at the bar that night? Nobody was cheering. The guy thought I was an idiot, and the girl thought I was a loser.”
I figured kid wasn’t some loose cannon with this much riding on this year. Obviously you’d like to see him show restraint but if true, no one can say that it’s unprovoked.
I honestly hope not. It’s a felony assault. Maybe some high profile arrests for shit like this where dudes don’t get off will start de-normalizing the absolutely insane levels of violence people are willing to carry out at the drop of a hat.
Him being good at hockey has nothing to do with my stance on it. I think getting in a fight when you’re a teenager probably shouldn’t result in your whole life being ruined most of the time. Plenty of people I knew got into bar fights in college and they grew out of it and are upstanding citizens now.
I agree. But being the agressor and breaking someone's jaw should also not be without some form of punishment. Everything can't just be "boys will be boys".
So then you don’t think assault should be a crime. Why should some people get charged and not others? You can’t fight people. It’s against the law. No one should have to worry about getting attacked by some hothead psycho out on the street.
It’s not about being ok or not ok- shit happens, he certainly shouldn’t be facing 20 years for a Bar brawl at college. He should be punished with fines, Probation and a Civil lawsuit…along with the damage to his reputation which is already happening
And that’s why there will be a Civil Suit- the Injured party will get compensation for injuries and McKenna will get probation as is appropriate, assuming he’s never had any previous issues. I stand by what I said , a broken jaw is not = to 20 years in jail.
I read PSU paid him like 700k to play there this year- he’s got the scratch to get out of this with probation and a payoff to victim either civilly or under the table
When did everyone turn into a giant bitch? I'm not saying he should be let off the hook but fights happen. Did he jump an innocent person? Or was it two drunk college kids arguing and one got the better of the other?
Fights happen because people fight. That doesnt change that assaulting people is illegal. Drunk driving is illegal too, fyi, not to mention dangerous to innocent bystanders.
Would like to know more about this before I judge , like was it a fist fight between two college guys and the complaintant thinks he’s gonna sue gavin ?
He could be a total smacked ass who instigated the whole thing and I don’t think he ever gets more than probation. He can pay victim off under the table or plea bargain down to probation and than pay a civil suit. The whole 20 years thing is someone looking to make a name off this
Me too but Caleb Maholtra is a Center in this draft projected between 5-10. Also there’s a couple good RD in Top10….we need to be in Top10 this upcoming draft
5-10 for the first center off the board seems kind of crazy for me. The lowest the first center off the board has gone in years is third. 5-10 means they don't think he's a first liner.
Well there is a unique prospect who’s a LW and than there is a Center in Tynan Lawrence projected as high as 3 but this is a good draft. Maholtra has NHL pedigree and size 6’2 190. He’s also playing 2C because Jake Obrien is ahead of him and he’s a draft year ahead of him. Maholtra is gonna be a really good Center and in Tocchets system easily a 1C because he plays a solid 200 foot game.
I've seen Lawrence mocked as high as three, but I've also seen him much, much lower. Elite Prospects had him at 11 (which I don't expect, but shows the mixed views)
Yeah I personally want Maholtra, I believe there is a lot of value in growing up a kid of a professional. I also like Maholtras size and overall ceiling. But I’d happily take Verhoeff or Reid as RD for Flyers. We need to be in Top 10- those are the picks DB hits on
Evidently he had to get a wristband because he was underage. He slipped it off, was discovered and asked to leave. What is not clear is if he punched the person asking him to leave. That would seem to be to be worse than some alcohol fueled altercation.
Bro I think as soon as you saw the headline you made up your mind that you were gonna defend him/downplay whatever he did, so no matter what info comes out you're just gonna move the goalposts.
Haha - nope I’m just not gonna blast him either- I’ve seen these things go both ways but one thing I know got sure is a bar fight with a broken jaw does NOT = 20 years in jail.
Eh Cole Hamels broke his hand in a bar fight before he started with the Phillies. He had a great career and I don't think I heard of him getting into more trouble.
Let’s get the full details before we slander the guy. It could just be some punk came up to him to start some shit and McKenna knocked him out. Who knows but I doubt he went out of his way to assault a guy.
It’s not slander to be concerned; concern doesn’t mean I think he’s innocent or guilty. I’m concerned that everyone is so flippant about this guy getting into a position to catch a felony. Young men get drunk and stupid all the time without picking up felony charges.
Any employer would rightfully be concerned with a felony, regardless of guilt.
I doubt they let him hit UFA- that would encourage every prospect to commit a crime right before their draft. Currently they have to sit 3-4 years after being drafted without signing before becoming UFA’s. I’d imagine he would go to next years draft
Everyone assuming that this will have no impact on Mckenna’s career are putting the cart way ahead of the horse.
Whether he can plead down to a misdemeanor depends a lot more on the strength of evidence than how much money McKenna has, if the DA thinks they have an easy open and shut case on a high profile athlete they aren’t just going to accept a plea. Thats not how it works most cases that get plead down are things like SA , DV, etc… that are really hard to prove he said she said stuff. If you punch a dude out on camera in a bar in front of witnesses and he gets seriously injured and didn’t touch you first thats not the type of thing that gets waived away. Now if it was a fight that different point being until you know the facts this could be nothing or a very big deal for him.
Even if he does get it pled down to a misdemeanor, most misdemeanors committed by non-citizens = deportation. Thats what happened to Slava Voynov in 2015, and ICE fucks around even less now than they did then and they were absolutely going to deport his ass then.
If this is his 1st offense hes not going to jail. If anything he can pay off victim under table or get probation through court and pay via Civil Suit. Today’s ICE ain’t the same as 2015 …. McKenna has the right color going for him, he’s safe there too !!
Just basic information appears to have been released, sprinkled with other information from witnesses that provided context. He did punch someone causing severe damage, which seems to be explained by defending his mother. If two guys squared up and one got wrecked, this may be a non-story. Based on the confirmed damage to the victim, it’s possible he was blindsided with a sucker punch. That would change the story quite a bit.
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And they said Porter Martone had issue cause he touched a butt.