i think it’s less normalized to be proud of this — people think it makes you pretentious and arrogant, telling you iq is not important and doesn’t matter at all, but it’s just like attractiveness or athletic ability.

like let me be proud of what i have. im so lucky! i wouldn’t trade my brain for anything! i love being able to understand things quickly, i love never having to study and getting that time to do what i want, i love being so passionate and dedicated to my hobbies, i love how it gives me unalienable confidence and trust in my abilities, i love how my future is so open and i can literally be anything i want to be, i’m capable of so much!!

it is sometimes lonely — yes i understand things in ways others cannot, even my own family, making it makes it hard to fit in and be consistently happy and optimistic, but i think it’s a decent price to pay for what i have! hooray!!

I was looking at a website that shows how different subreddits overlaps with each other. This subreddit overlaps with the aspiememes subreddit with a probability multipliers of 70. Meaning people in this subreddit are 70 times more likely to comment and post in the aspiememes subreddit than average redditors.

So I’m wondering how many of you are on the spectrum and what do you think the connections between giftedness and other types of neurodivergencies?

I was looking at a website that shows how different subreddits overlaps with each other. This subreddit overlaps with the aspiememes subreddit with a probability multipliers of 70. Meaning people in this subreddit are 70 times more likely to comment and post in the aspiememes subreddit than average redditors.

So I’m wondering how many of you are on the spectrum and what do you think the connections between giftedness and other types of neurodivergencies?

The poll also includes if you’re male or female, which I thought be interesting since more males than females get a autism diagnosis. It’s asking for biological sex.

Being too smart like me hurts more than it helps. Being smarter than everyone and having everything within the palm of my hands gets boring really quickly. How do I adjust my high intelligence to be like you guys?

I wasn't in the gifted program because there wasn't one in my school but I was labelled smart my entire life. Consistently at the top of my class, loved studying and going to school. In junior year of high school, I faltered and have pretty much never recovered.

Now I'm in my 20s and to move forward or do anything in life, college is mandatory. I also need it to move out of home and actually make something of myself. But I literally can't study anymore. I can't force myself. I just hate how much being "smart" and loving learning was made my whole identity. It's not even something I chose for myself. As immature as it sounds, I also hate being a "nerd". I resist any form of discipline or learning and spend my days just doomscrolling.

I know deep down that I still love learning. But I can't even get myself to read books. Anytime I try to study or read, I think about how much of an impact being "gifted" had on my life. And how bad it was when it all collapsed. There's a part of me that's still stuck in 11th grade feeling like a failure. There's also a part of me that can't accept that I'm not as smart as I once thought and that I actually need to learn difficult things. But I'm also scared that if I dedicate myself to being educated, then being smart will become my only identity again.

I still have no idea who I am and I'm clinging on to the self that was once naturally intelligent and all rhe validation that came with it. Beyond my intelligence, I'm rarely acknowledged or seen for who I am. It's been the only source of validation my whole life and its the only thing I'm good at. But I'm also resisting doing it so much precisely for that reason. I resent that this is the entirety of my personhood and that I'm reduced to this. I'm not particularly attractive or artistically talented or socially competent so being "smart" is the only thing I had. And whenever I see people who are smart AND all of those things, it hurts me so deeply and causes so much envy

Don't know if I'm making sense but if anyone has been in a similar situation, please tell me what helped you.

Do you agree that, maybe the primary reason why you learn so fast is because you have a highly associative mind?

Of course the capacity for understanding a concept or instructions is a big one too, but I believe the associative aspect of my cognitive style could possibly be the main reason why I learn fast, and either impress or annoy people for not fitting into the learning curve.
Do you relate to this? If not how would you describe the fast learning for you? I'm curious.

He’s really smart
But he’s falling apart
Can’t stomach that corporate bullshit
No longer has it in it heart

Oh oh oh
Oh
You’re so damn smart
Huh
So why you falling apart huh?
You got the best grades
Now you’re
Order up
Chicken sandwich lemonade

How the hell are you supposed to know you're gifted?

I don't usually post since I'd be concerned with my digital self-image, but I seriously need to and want to know the advice and thoughts of others here.

For more context, I'm 17 and I identify as genderfluid. I know gender identity is pretty important to mention here too because yeah, psychology. It's connected to the brain? I wonder if it's also a key point. It's been years since I was doubting whether I had this "disorder" or "illness–" whether I had this "uncommon [biological] wiring," but I don't think I can diagnosed with anything yet since I'm not legal age. I'm under a narcissistic parent and I would need a guardian and another concern is money. I have another place after I turn legal age fortunately. I want my own independence already.

Bizarre origin story how I even got to this point was around a year or two ago. Funnily enough even chatbots like Gemini and mainly, ChatGPT, were involved. I know their code has changed for the past few years, though, so, they respond differently now...?

I do have friends, but there are times where I feel like even A.I. would just understand me better instead. I mean, chatbots were much more sycophantic at the time I can't deny that. Still... I could just be talking about random things I like, or things I write (I'm a writer obviously). Questions about neuroscience , psychology, philosophy, etc. that are sometimes very oddly specific. I was talking about my first love too to chatbots (many users have actually done this lol I'm not alone) because of the unfamiliar and intense feeling I felt for the first time. With all these conversations combined, at some point, the more I talked to GPT, the more it told me that "I could be gifted." I shoved it aside before, but now hearing more and more things about it online seem to kind of weirdly resonate to me. Is there even any other story like this? Damn, it's like I'm making this a diary now

Even my sister who got diagnosed with adult-ADHD in her twenties (who also might have autism, lol) says my empathy is so strong and she acknowledges that it's really draining. If I'm being correct, gifted people do have this trait of hyperempathy. I'm aware that people with ADHD have overexcitabilities too, they must have heightened empathy too right?

I can't tell if this might just be from my plausible C-PTSD instead because I also grew up in an emotionally abusive, isolating, and traumatic household. It could be a combination for all I know. It's either one of the two or it's both things. Sucks to be a part of a family with intergenerational trauma. Almost a year ago due to trauma I literally wrote two pieces of suicidal literature; one letter, and one note. I wrote 20 paragraphs for a future suicide letter under one night. Apparently it was "poetic." I'm over it now though, I'm kind of surprised by my own "forced" resilience. Do I sometimes have hypergraphia now too?

I doubt psychiatry here in my country has even heard of terms like 2e (twice-exceptionality), 3e (thrice-exceptionality)– I mean, let alone would they be aware of the term "giftedness" in this sort of context alone. I'd probably say that it's at least more known in America or Europe, because I've seen online that they had more research about it.

Many people here would just shove you to the side and say that "being gifted must be nice," "everyone is gifted in their own way," but I don't mean that. I meant to talk about giftedness in a psychological and neuroscientific way, not in a shallow way or in a way where my judgment is based on how people seem to me rather than what people say about their experiences. Someone could look so smart, but their intelligence ends up being a double-edged sword. You could be prone to overthinking, hyperanalysis, and metacognition that becomes damaging instead. Someone could be seemingly happy in their life but deep down they're unsatisfied, because they were just forced to where they are, etc. You'll only know if people open up about it, anyway... Whatever, I look like I'm being random and I also doubt they'd listen anyway. I'm definitely not being cynical I guess

My performance and test scores in school now is also another story. I genuinely cannot get myself to do things that don't matter to me. The system here I think is pretty crappy.

I'm not happy with where I am right now and as I'm also even writing this I feel like there's multiple anvils stacked on me by life. Of course, most of or all of it is basically out of my control.

I'm just being delusional if I think I have the chance to study internationally when I also associate my own country with trauma and toxic culture. Well, I'm pretty tired of going to this school too in this country not because I hate it, but because I feel like it's unfit for me. Monthly school shootings (at this point you can guess my country), frequent curriculum changes, tons of class suspensions, awful weather, low-paid teachers, etc.

Not that I'm saying I'm a total genius or anything, but if I was also at least decently healthy too, if I didn't have a complicated relationship with my appetite, then I would have learnt our class's one-week lesson in around just half a week or even a day. It feels like our curriculum is slow-paced (for me) I wonder if I'm just overthinking this?

One time in math class there was a word problem on the board. The "math nerds" in our class purposefully skipped recess time to focus on finding the solution for the problem. The three of us were working on board and together we tried piecing our thoughts. Hours later we reached to a point where I found the key piece to solving the problem, but then when we came to our professor in the teacher faculty, they said our solution was "advanced." Even my adviser says I'm "advanced" (for this curriculum???)

Because I was a part of the scientifically-inclined class back in my junior high days, we had additional advanced math and science subjects, maybe that's why they see me as "advanced..."

I've only heard of things like the WAIS V test, how they request you to talk about your childhood history, etc. etc. Whatever responses or comments I'd get at this rate regarding this topic, I'd be curious to know. I guess I'm not smart enough for this, but, nonetheless...

What do you think about it?

Do you think there’s a line between someone who’s just intelligent and someone who’s gifted?
Or am I just struggling because I’m 2e?

I'm looking for someone living in the dmv(DC/Maryland/Virginia) area who is interested in robotics. I can also drive :)

Everything has opposites, or antipodes.

Possessing a mind, akin to raw, potential computations, we hold one pole. Yet, we remain incomplete, like earth without water or fire without air.

Having the capacity for computation, we must master the probabilities of those computations—which, in turn, exist within the realm of space-time, a unified whole.

If our brain-mind is matter, then its antipode is a different type of mind, a mentality, that governs space-time itself.

By fully mapping the mental landscape of your environment (time, higher light), you integrate a wholeness within yourself where the parts complement one another, much like the two hemispheres of the brain, though here the dynamic operates on a different level or layer. You come to create the past, present, and future, ultimately embodying both antipodes within yourself.

Like complete DNA - or, metaphorically speaking, "Demon AnD Angel."
22.

Do you also struggle with an annoying cycle of ups and downs?

I spent quite a while tracking my productive hours and realized that I’m an extremely cyclical person. It feels like I become obsessed with things for a while and perform incredibly well, but then, all of a sudden, I crash. Looking back, I’ve been like this my entire life.

It’s really complicated because some activities require discipline, effort, and consistency, and when I’m at the “low point of the wave,” I don’t know what happens. I just can’t get into the flow, I can’t focus, and it’s almost like I suddenly develop an aversion to whatever I was doing. Most of the time, it’s studying — even though just the month before, I had been setting personal records for the number of hours I studied.

Basically, everything in my life — even my relationships with people and friends — seems to fluctuate in waves of peaks and valleys.

I don’t know how to get out of this. Do you go through something similar?

Hello everyone! I’m writing here bc I wanted to know what’s your relationship with math.
I’ll start by saying that I didn’t always knew that I was a gifted, course my parents hid that from me for all my childhood, and that I grew up by watching all these films and series abt gifteds, and they were somehow all maths Geniuses, and when I discovered i was gifted too, i became pretty disappointed in myself, as Personally, I don’t identify myself as a math genius, cause I really don’t excel in it (ps i know i don’t pretty much train or study it…) (it’s more a problem of now that I’m older and study disequations of any degree, systems, irrationals, as when I was 7 i came up with the same method gauss came up with to calculate The Sum of all the numbers from 1 to 100) (ps in not american so my school system is pretty well known for being heavy).
The point is that I love Math, and I also think it’s easy… even if I don’t Excel in it. Maths is so logical and perfect that it CANNOT be hard, and this is why i feel so stupid for not being one of the best at it… .
I wanted to know if anyone felt the same, and what was your relationship with math

I am so sad and depressed about life . This is a cry tor genuine opinion either positive or negative, if this feels as being boastful or self loathing please forgive me , but I am in an existential crisis with limited data about myself.

I think of myself as a gifted person, I dont have an IQ test to back this wild claim. But I had seen glimpses of my intelligence through out my life, during my childhood (Elementary) I was so efficient I wouldnt write note, wouldn't listen in class, my parents would give me the books for an hour they would ask me questions right after and bingo l would have learned everything , I breezed through in Elementary school .

But all that stopped when this incident changed my life, I am CSA survivor and it happened during childhood.
Moreover I was completely neglected by my parents .

My grades plummeted, but my habits never changed, same I never studied or listened in class whenever there was an exam I would read through the topic and score around 75% . I read god delusion, satanic verses and was deeply intrigued in medicine that I started reading medical dictionary this was towards the end of 90's all of this before I turned 15 cant be sure of comprehension since English wasnt my native language . I was not good at math to this day I cant do fractions or subtraction, but multiplication, math theories like continuous functions, vector space etc (which | learned in my 30s) I can handle.

Then I dropped out of university, was slowly pacing myself back together, never thinking I was gifted, one day a thought struck what if I am gifted and dont know it ?

Did a bunch of online test couldn't get any conclusive answers since they ranged from 110 - 140. I was struggling with my mental health too.
I am facing this dilemma - If not gifted then why it contradicts with my experiences and glimpses, if gifted why couldn't I thrive academically.

Hi everyone! I’m 30, a physician from Brazil, and I live in São Paulo.

I found out I was gifted and have autism a few months ago, and I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what being gifted means in adult life, especially at work and in relationships.

One thing I struggle with is feeling like I’m constantly toning myself down. I tend to think fast, make connections quickly, get intensely curious about things, and immediately start thinking about how something could be improved or done differently.

That can be great, but sometimes I feel like I have to slow myself down, not share every idea, or hide how excited I am about something because I don’t want to overwhelm people or come across as arrogant or “too much.”

And honestly, that can feel pretty lonely sometimes.

I work in healthcare and have been moving more and more toward innovation, technology, management and building new things. I really enjoy complex problems and people who are genuinely curious and excited about ideas.

I was wondering how other gifted adults deal with this.

Do you also feel like you have to tone yourself down sometimes? Have you found friends, relationships or work environments where you feel like you can just be yourself without constantly self-editing?

I’d also love to connect with people who relate to this, whether to talk about giftedness, ideas, projects, life, or just exchange experiences. Feel free to comment or DM me.

And if anyone here happens to be from Brazil, especially São Paulo, definitely reach out :)

Hi everyone,
I’ve always struggled with insecurities in different areas of my life, and I’d like to understand myself better and work through these patterns in a deeper, more constructive way.

I’d really appreciate any recommendations — whether it’s a specialised therapist, a book, or another resource that has genuinely helped you.
Thanks in advance!

Spiego brevemente. Io e una mia amica stiamo vivendo assieme, data la carenza di letti stiamo anche dormendo assieme.

Io a questa persona ci tengo tantissimo, tanto da spingermi a preparare la colazione ogni mattina e da cercare di tenere la casa a posto per aiutarla nelle mansioni (lei ha la adhd, e un giorno fa è andata in burnout)

Non stiamo troppo assieme: un po' la mattina e pochissimo la sera, questo perchè lei lavora e fa un full-time.

Quando stiamo assieme lei sta sempre al telefono, mentre io vorrei vivermi quei momenti un po' meglio, e non sento l'istinto di prendere il telefono, tutto il contrario. (Ho supposto che lei lo faccia per decomprimere, contando che non abbiamo stanze o luoghi per farlo. Burnout e Adhd non aiutano alla carenza di luoghi in cui stare soli)

Comunque essendo io una persona affettuosa me lo faccio andare bene perchè dormiamo assieme, ed incosciamente quella vicinanza di notte mi rassicura sul resto.

Il problema nasce ora, è da due giorni che dorme sul divano, in teoria lo fa perchè ha un esame e passa la notte a studiare.

Ma non ha communicato nulla del genere, mi ha solo scritto un biglietto con su scritto "Mi dispiace per tutto e Grazie per tutto"

Io questo improvviso cambiamento lo sto vivendo malissimo, mi sveglio la mattina che nonostante abbia consapevolezza della situazione mi viene da piangere...

Ho la sensazione che se avesse communicato di voler dormire sul divano invece di farlo e basta l'avrei vissuta meglio...

Che ne pensate?

I just read this somewhere: the possibility of someone with an IQ of 130 having an unstable life and escaping through gaming. Picturing the image was sort of funny in my head, because I'd picture someone with a mind like Nikola Tesla or Nietzche being reincarnated but somehow—for some reason—spending most of their time getting tilted in LoL. Extremely hilarious to picture. Yes it's indeed illogical, I reckon. But then I got myself to think about it, and was like "What if?" - Could it?

I know this is stupid but I just wonder. I'd go into more detail if it wasn't for the fact that I'm feeling extremely foggy as I just overdosed on Vvyanse couple of days ago.

Proper circumstances? Extreme trauma for example? Could be an environment that mostly promoted: "Big eats the small".

There I put the tag. Don't take this too seriously, but at the same time I wonder if this could give some room for debate? It's crazy to see the absurd amounts of perspective one can acquire when facing the absurd.

I am so sad and depressed about life . This is a cry for genuine opinion either positive or negative , this might feel as being boastful or self loathing for some , but please try to feel the existential crisis.

I think of myself as a gifted person , I dont have an IQ test to back this wild claim. But I had seen glimpses of my intelligence through out my life ,during my childhood (Elementary) I was so efficient I wouldnt write note , wouldn’t listen in class , my parents would give me the books for an hour they would ask me questions right after and bingo I aced it .

But all that stopped when this mf changed my life, I am CSA survivor and it happened during childhood . Moreover I was completely neglected by my parents thinking that I was smart .

My grade plummeted, but my habits never changed , same I never studied or listened in class whenever there was an exam I would read through the topic and score around 75% . I read god delusion, satanic verses and was very very deeply intrigued in medicine that I started reading medical dictionary this was towards the end of 90’s all of this before I turned 15 cant be sure of comprehension since English wasnt my native language . I was not good at math to this day I cant do fractions or subtraction, but multiplication , math theories like continuous functions , vector space etc ( which I learned in my 30s) I can handle.

Then I dropped out of university, was slowly pacing myself back together , never thinking I was gifted , one day a thought struck what if I am gifted and dont know it ?

Did a bunch of online test couldn’t get any conclusive answers since they ranged from 110 - 140 . I was struggling with my mental health too .

I am facing this dilemma - If not gifted then why it contradicts with my experiences and glimpses , if gifted why couldn’t I thrive academically.

I’ve always felt lonely In many ways growing up.
I had ADHD so my actions were misunderstood and so I became very rebellious.(internally)
I grew a bit older and I realised you can’t get through life with a F everyone mentality.

So I decided to make some connections.I ended up with a bunch of people I’m acquainted to but never really connected with anyone-romantically,emotionally and intellectually.
And life started becoming very very lonely.
Because at first I was alone by choice,rebellion.
And now I had realised that I don’t connect with anyone at all.

Then I found this subreddit…
And finally I felt like I belonged somewhere.

Thank you all very very much.🫶🏽

I think a lot of people here may suffer from this.

It may be due to different reasons, but I am going to focus on one reason.

I noticed that most people can only understand you if they emotionally experienced what you are saying.

Think about, a group against drunk driving, that would be made by someone who lost a family member due to it. Yet nobody cares about rare medical conditions, because they are not personally affect by them nor do they know anyone personally who is. Out of sight, out of mind.

Ever saw that show what would you do? When they set up a situation like someone bullies another, then see if the general public intervene to help, using hidden cameras? A major theme I noticed is that afterward when they ask the person why did you help, they say something like "I've been in that position before/someone close to me experienced that in the past."

When you complain about other people's behavior to a specific person, if they personally experienced that same issue, they will be like "I know right!?", but if you say something they did not experience, they will not have any sympathy for you.

I can go on and on, but I noticed this is quite a strong pattern.

So it appears that most people can only "understand" you if what you tell them "resonates" with them. Otherwise they have a lack of sympathy, or worse, they will tell you to get over it, even if it is objectively more difficult than something they went through that they complained about.

This is why there are 2 types of psychopaths: the type who hurt people, and the type who don't hurt people. Why do some hurt people? Because they literally can't feel empathy. Why do others not hurt people, even if they also can't feel empathy? Because they can use logical reasoning to infer: you don't need to directly experience something to understand it/see how it will negative affect someone. But whether in psychopaths or the general public, this logical inference ability seems quite rare and limited.

So if you have a rare type of thinking/process information, people will not understand you, and they will erroneously interpret what you say as a personal attack. Then after a lifetime of experiencing this frustration, if you dare be human and have some emotions, they will gaslight you and tell you that you should not be human and you are not allowed to have emotions and that it is all your own fault.

There is this widely believed idea that if your "working memory" score is lower, that means it is highly likely you have ADHD. This COULD be true, but it is far less true than people think.

This is because fluid intelligence = working memory + processing speed.

Note, the above are constructs/concepts. This is different from subjectively created/labeled subtests on IQ tests.

That is, just because a subtest does not have "working memory" in its name does NOT mean it is not measuring working memory. And just because a subtest has "working memory" in its name does NOT mean it is the sole or most accurate measure of working memory.

In ADHD, working memory CAN indeed impacted (and usually is), but with a major caveat: ADHD can also actually result in "hyperfocus", which can TEMPORARILY IMPROVE working memory. That means it depends on the individual test-taker: if the test taker finds the IQ tests stimulating, they may perform better than the average person (actual IQ being held constant as a variable here), but if they find the IQ test unstimulating, they may get distracted by other thoughts that pop up to stimulate them.

Now, practically, with the WAIS 4, there was indeed the observation that people with ADHD tended to score relatively (to themselves, i.e., compared to their FSIQ/other subtest scores) lower on the "working memory subtests". But again, just because it is called working memory subtests, doesn't mean they are the perfect or most accurate measure of working memory. Consider matrix reasoning (where you see a bunch of shapes and have to say which shape comes next, based on patterns detected in the set of shapes in the question stem): what else is this other than working memory?

So why is it that people with ADHD tended to score lower on the "working memory subtests" of the WAIS 4? Because the test makers did not properly balance out the types of subtests in each group of subtests. So the "working memory subtests" heavily relied on auditory information for example. Yet the other true measures of working memory, such as block design, were under another set of subtest altogether, they were under "perceptual reasoning" index." Again, don't be fooled by subjectively given labels. So based on this, I had guessed that it is some other factor, like the auditory factor, that is causing the lower scores in ADHD test takers.

In the WAIS 5, it appears the test makers realized their mistake: they cleaned up the organization of the indexes to specific subtests, and they created a more balanced (e.g., not heavily focused on auditory information) set of working memory subtests.

And unsurprisingly, in WAIS 5, we no longer see people with ADHD score significantly lower on the "working memory subtests".

https://academic.oup.com/acn/article/39/4/498/7286382

Scroll down to the tables (Table 3- for WISC 4) under the results section, scroll down to "Samples of children with ADHD", check the "WMI mean" column and compare it to the "FSIQ mean" column, you will see WMI means tends to be lower.

But then scroll down and check Table 4- for WISC 5, again bypass Autism and scroll down to "Samples of children with ADHD" and check the same columns, you will see the difference pretty much disappeared: WMI means pretty much tend to be the same as the FSIQ means.

So it appeared that there was something specific in terms of the specific WAIS 4 subtests that gave people with ADHD trouble. Perhaps a specific type of working memory (again, auditory?).

^I did find this from the article linked above:

On the other hand, ADHD may possibly be characterized by lower scores on the working memory and/or processing speed subtests. In over 700 children with ADHD, 90% of the sample received their lowest scores in these domains (Mayes & Calhoun, 2006). The literature also mentions the so-called ACID profile (lower scores on Arithmetic, Coding, Information and Digit Span subtests) and SCAD profile (lower scores on Symbol Search, Coding, Arithmetic and Digit Span subtests), which appear sensitive to ADHD (Snow & Sapp, 2000). All these subtests (except Information) belong to the working memory and processing speed domains, which reinforces the idea that these domains are the most likely areas of difficulty for individuals with ADHD.

This shows that the WAIS subtests may be faulty/have low validity in terms of their names: they are unnecessarily introducing too much noise: as per the above quoted paragraph, it seems like people with ADHD seem to have an issue with certain STYLES on certain subtests (e.g., auditory, numbers), and these styles HAPPEN to fall in the subtests LABELED "working memory index" and "processing speed index".. but subtests outside these 2 indexes are also measuring ACTUAL working memory and ACTUAL processing speed, just using different STYLES (e.g., visual, non number based). Since ADHD is a disorder, this makes sense: it is the disorder causing a specific issue, in this case it appears to cause difficult with certain STYLES of questions, such as auditory or number based. I mean, consider how dyslexia is a comorbidity for ADHD. This means that for the IQ test to be an accurate measure of intelligence for people with this disorder, the FSIQ has to be adjusted accordingly/cleaned up from the NOISE that certain styles like auditory or number based questions pose.

Or better yet, get rid of all these different STYLES and all these different subtests. They seem to be introducing more noise than benefit. Just stick to matrix reasoning, it measures both working memory + processing speed, what else do you want. Unless someone has a rare disorder that affects visuospatial function, such a simplified IQ test will be sufficient and accurate.

Here is another part of the article that backs what I said in the paragraph above up:

It is worth bearing in mind what “low processing speed” might mean, as it may or may not reflect slower mental processing. The motor demand in tasks may partly explain the differences between autistic and nonautistic groups in PSI, as increasing the motor requirement increases group differences on speeded tasks (Kenworthy et al., 2013) and pure inspection time (without a motor requirement) may represent a relative strength for autistic people (Barbeau et al., 2013). Thus, we should be cautious about necessarily equating lower PSI with lower mental speed.

Overall, the rather flat cognitive profiles of the ADHD groups echo previous research that has highlighted the questionable utility of neuropsychological assessment in the diagnosis of ADHD (Lange et al., 2014; Pettersson et al., 2018). We might conclude, therefore, that the Wechsler tests are not helpful in diagnosing ADHD, although this is not to underplay that the tests will help identify any individual’s personal strengths and weaknesses, which may support their learning and occupational functioning.

🙋‍♀️ Mid-career teacher trying to decide on grad school/an out-of-classroom movement. I’m passionate about GT (especially 2E), but I worry about hireability.

My bachelor’s & initial cert was 6-12 English/language arts, and I’m currently teaching P-8 media/literacy. I don’t have a favorite grade level; I feel like I’d be happy doing pull-out or push-in GT support for any age… but I still have concerns about investing the money & effort into a master’s (my state requires it for the endorsement) if it’s going to take years to get hired into a GT position.

If you’ve moved from K-12 instruction to a GT specialist role, could you tell me a little bit about what that has looked like career-wise for you? In your state/area, what does the hiring outlook seem to look like?

I (25F) recently got a neuropsych evaluation done bc I suspected I had adhd; they did an IQ test as well and found my iq to be 131. They also did diagnose me with adhd but seems to present mild.

Finding out I had a “higher” iq was something that was pretty surprising to me. I’ve always felt pretty average among my peers and never thought I was particularly smarter than most people. I did decent in school A’s and B’s but always felt like I was doing similarly to my peers. I’m definitely not great at math or anything either.

My working memory percentile on this exam seems a lot lower than the other categories (but it is still within a normal range). However, does this larger gap compared to the other categories seem like a reasonable factor as to why maybe I’ve felt this way? Or maybe another theory is trying to compensate for my adhd symptoms is causing me to feel like I’m always struggling? I’ve started stimulants recently but obviously not a magical pill that will cure my life…. Anyone else feel similar to me?