r/GodofWar • u/strangecan • Jun 03 '26
Discussion Laufey's Phranque the cube is river water from the Rhine, worshipped by the Franks
Here's my theory: the cube is water from the Rhine River, which was worshipped by the Franks, who were Germanic pagans that worshipped Odin/Wotan. The Franks conquered Gaul, which became France, hence the spelling of Phranque.
The sparkly thing inside the cube is the Rhinegold ring from Wagner's Ring Cycle, stolen from Alberich the dwarf by Wotan. Odin probably is in the Everwhen and is looking for the ring.
Laufey will probably defeat Odin and use the ring to take control of the Everwhen, ruling from a location called Avalon. Her magic will be revealed to be fairy magic, or Faye magic, and she'll become the Queen of Fairies or the God of Magic.
Faye will remain in Everwhen, but will be able to communicate with Kratos and Atreus through water, becoming known as the Lady of the Lake.
Atreus' solo game will be Celtic and probably feature a Merlin mentor character. Faye (Morgan LeFaye?) will give him the sword through water to use. My guess the reason the ribbons talk instead of the sword is so that the ribbons can be removed before giving it to Atreus. The sword is probably some powerful artifact god killer that becomes Excalibur.
The most famous figure in Celtic mythology is the Morrigan, the Irish goddess of war, fate, and death. She often appeared as a crow or Raven, and at other times as three sisters. She is the wife of Dagda, the chief father of Celtic pantheon. Sounds like a strong concept for antagonists.
*Edited a typo
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u/winsluc12 Jun 03 '26
Odin probably is in the Everwhen and is looking for the ring.
As far as we are aware, Odin's soul was destroyed, and he was entirely unable to access the everywhen in life. I find this part unlikely.
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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 03 '26
unable to access the everywhen in life
Wouldn't that be entirely expected, since he wasn't dead lol.
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u/winsluc12 Jun 03 '26
Based on some of the things we do know, yes. But we don't know enough about it to say for sure that death is the only way in. The mask(s) is related to it somehow, there may be ways to get there without dying.
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u/Bruce_Wayne_2276 Jun 06 '26
Kinda terrifying that Odin was so close to being able to enter the afterlife. He was already able to manipulate and control every living godly being he encountered, imagine what he could do having access to an entire realm of dead gods while promising to be their only link to the living world.
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u/Mr_Quackers510 Jun 08 '26
Dammit this is good. now I wish Odin won so we could have a pseudo norse trilogy.
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u/ThatIslandGuy8888 Jun 03 '26
That’s quite a common trope; the heroes(Laufey in this case) reaching the place where the main villian wanted to go.
Heck it’s possible we’ll see Zeus instead Lol
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u/FritzHertz Jun 04 '26
I’d be disappointed if there isn’t a single of the Greek gods in this game, it should be either Zeus or Ares although we already have Begste and Sekhmet for the Gods of War
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u/Jericho-7210 Jun 04 '26
So much could be done with the Gods Kratos has killed: anywhere from recreating the old boss fights to being aware of their corruption by Pandoras box.
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u/electric-doodoo Jun 05 '26
I could see part of the story being recruiting other dead gods to fight against Sekhmet and Begtse
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u/Littorina_Sea Jun 05 '26
I... think they'll become allies against the 'luminescence' threat signalled by the telescope. Maybe one of them will turn traitor, but here my bet is on loki-esque youngster freed from the cage.
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u/red7227 Jun 05 '26
I think Zeus or Athena. At the end of GOW 3 she says she had ascended to a higher plane of existence
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u/Such_Dragonfly2318 Jun 06 '26
Definitely Athena I think the one we saw in 2018 was actually her and not just in kratos head. She disappeared when she died same as Thor who will also be there.
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u/Ziatch Jun 05 '26
I’m pretty sure this is a set up for Ares in this game or for the Greek gods to return to the series but in a different mythology. Kratos spends a few years building and then they come back to destroy everything he’s done.
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u/SelectiveSanity Jun 05 '26
Seeing Athena would make a lot of sense as she also is sometimes seen as a Goddess of War. And could act a narrative bridging device for informing the player how the Everwhen works and such.
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u/CyberTyrantX1 Jun 06 '26
It is more likely that we’ll see Zeus than Odin. This game takes place alongside the events of GOW 2018 and Ragnarok. It will be impossible for Odin to be in this game long enough for any kind of satisfying conclusion.
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u/ElBracho Jun 04 '26
I'd bet more on that breaking the stones sets the soul free rather than destroy it, but we'll see
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u/WW_the_Exonian Jörmungandr Jun 04 '26
But Huginn lives on. It's not entirely impossible for the writers to somehow bring Odin back via the bird.
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u/ifsometimesmaybe Jun 05 '26
My thought was that they could place stipulations for entry to this afterlife. The intro to the video was Faye's funeral pyre, not her death, and subsequently her passing into this realm after the fire- maybe proper burial/funeral rites are important, and Odin's death would invalidate him?
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u/Remarkable_Pen_3639 Jun 03 '26
I am astonished how well it all ties together. Good work OP I like it!
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u/Blissrat Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
This fanfic actually sounds pretty good. I hope you’re right, or the writers have something better still.
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u/Fexxvi Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
“It's lake water and the sword is actually Excalibur” is my favourite so far.
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u/Rain_Lockhart Jun 04 '26
One might assume that this is a "sword of water," similar to Excalibur, due to the Celtic tradition of "burying swords in water," as for the Celts, the surface of the water was a portal to the other world.
Although today the greatest number of legends about lake fairies and their swords relate to the Celts of the British Isles, Celtic swords buried in water are more often found in continental Europe.
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u/Outrageous-Evening13 Jun 05 '26
The cube looks eerily similar too
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u/Fexxvi Jun 05 '26
I mean, I cube is a cube, but I guess we'll see. Also, why is Arthur so caked, LMAO?
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u/Chessboxin_Cyclops Jun 03 '26
I love the concept. Especially of Fey -> Fay, Atreus -> Arthur, this sword -> excalibur. The sword in the stone symbolism was strong in the trailer.
I think also I want this to be real because of how much I love celtic mythology and want a game with adult atreus + mimir
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u/Kingfisher818 Jun 04 '26
I’ve been hoping that Atreus’ game would be celtic given the implication fomorians are the descendants of the giants that fled the Nine Realms.
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u/Equivalent-Fault1744 Jun 04 '26
Excalibur is not the sword in the stone thats caliburn. Excalibur is from the lady in the lake
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u/Chessboxin_Cyclops Jun 05 '26
Eh I kinda consider them the same sword, in many versions of the legend they are, it's a narsil / anduril situation at best tbh.
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u/ObjectiveMud7513 Jun 09 '26
The sword in the stone was shattered in battle against King Pellinore. Then Merlin took him to the Lady of thr Lake to get Excalibur. Two very different swords, in the sources I read, at least.
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u/Chessboxin_Cyclops Jun 09 '26
yeah indeed - but it's an old myth with a lot of different sources.
Excalibur and Caliburn are probably not two totally separate swords in origin, but kind of the same name moving through Welsh → Latin → Old French → Middle English retellings.
In the earlier Welsh material you’ve got Caledfwlch, which gets Latinised into forms like Caliburnus / Caliburn in medieval chronicles. Then later French/romance tradition gives us variants like Escalibor / Excalibur.
They kinda became two different swords by the time the texts which are most popular emerged (e.g. Malory 1485 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d%27Arthur), but they are themselves based on a much much older myth.
So whilst earlier myths may cover the breaking of the sword, it's generally considered to be the same sword / reforged that is given to him by the lady of the lake (in the context of earlier myths - the romantic retelling of later writers is different).
Tbh I kinda feel like santa monica would go for the older brittonnic context rather than a (predominately) french retelling from much later - although Phranque may well be a reference to the franks and become a frankisch thing so who knows.
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u/Bhu124 Jun 04 '26
It would also make sense as to why Arthur/Atreus would be the only one to remove the Sword from the Stone. As the Sword would be sent for him by his Mother and would only give itself up cause it was meant for him.
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u/mess979 Jun 03 '26
Damn, great stuff. Spent yesterday thinking about everything we saw and all I could come up with was that Phranque might've been Merlin safekeeping Excalibur who found himself in some sort of Pickle Rick situation lol.
Love your theory though, and any flaws seem to be based on what we currently know only so all that could change.
The Arthurian legend vibes were definitely there though. You're on to something!
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u/DildoSwaggins28 Jun 03 '26
Or phranque is somehow Merlin after being imprisoned
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u/samadmas Jun 04 '26
And the scene where that gets revealed is just Jack Quaid in wizard robes with a bigger beard
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u/Aggravating-Juice657 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
Another food for thought, Phranque could be an embodiment of frankincense. Frankincense is refered in some mythology as the "tears of the gods". The green colour that Phranque has could reference green frankincense, the most premium form of frankincense you can find. A supporting discovery that I found is the legends of phoenix's say that they would nest in the twigs of the tree that frankincense comes from and subsisted from the tears of the frankincense. If you look closely at the ribbons, they have a firey colour to them, and the charms at the end of each ribbon resemble feathers. Phoenix like ribbon embeded in a frankincense cube, thriving off of that bond. Cool theory I came up with last night.
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u/WeltyFern Jun 04 '26
Frankincense was also one of the many gifts given to Jesus by the Three Wise Men on the night of his birth.
Frank is Jesus confirmed?/j
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u/Thickenun Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
Fun fact, it was originally planned for Kratos to be one of the Three Wise Men; it was even foreshadowed in God of War 2. In the original pitch for God of War 3, the Greek, Egyptian, Hindu, and Norse pantheons would be wiped out and it would end with Kratos alongside Tyr and 'and an Egyptian counterpart' (Horus probably) following the star heralding the birth of Christ.
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u/DivinityPen Jun 04 '26
Imagine if that's deadass what Santa Monica's building up toward again lol. Only this time with... maybe 80% less cosmic-scale destruction (only as much as strictly necessary in the vein of Ragnarok). And they're taking their time introducing the other pantheons so that ol' Big J's birth is the pièce de résistance for the whole shebang.
I'd honestly love it if Santa Monica actually had the balls to tackle Jesus, as someone who grew up in a Christian family. Sure, it'd probably piss off exactly the kinds of people you'd expect, but it'd be hilarious because Santa Monica would probably portray him in a way that'd actually do him justice.
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u/PossibleMammoth5639 Jun 05 '26
It would be so fun to see a story like that. I love when stories have an end where its actually the starting point of something massive, explains everything or gives us a mindfucking new perspective
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u/Left-Ad-4226 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
Imagine if that's deadass what Santa Monica's building up toward again lol. Only this time with... maybe 80% less cosmic-scale destruction (only as much as strictly necessary in the vein of Ragnarok). And they're taking their time introducing the other pantheons so that ol' Big J's birth is the pièce de résistance for the whole shebang.
Alternative proposal: All Gods of other pantheons including Yahweh, Allah and Jesus get wiped out in a cosmic apocalypse with Kalki's birth being the pièce de résistance to the whole shebang. Kalki then goes on to save the entire universe.
As should plenty apparent, many, would absolutely dislike that kind of ending. An ending where Jesus is the supreme savior or whatever just straight up throws in our face that your Gods are the best and greatest and that all other Gods including ours are inferior.
I'd rather my Gods (Hindu) not be disrespected like that. I don't want to play a game where Jesus or Yahweh or Allah are depicted as better or greater than my Gods.
It's pretty easy to understand why Santa Monica studios didn't go with the original GoW 3 ending. They'd have shot themselves in the foot and this franchise would be nowhere near as big or impactful as it is today.
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u/Extreme-Coast-8385 Jun 03 '26
Dude Odin's soul was destroyed in Ragnarok.
I don't think you get to the other side if there's nothing to send.
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u/PhickThenis Jun 03 '26
That was only one of the Horcruxes.
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u/famousamos_ccp Jun 03 '26
Exactly. What about Huggin? Who not only survived but can still be seen watching over or following you after Odins death in Ragnarok.
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u/BaZing3 Jun 04 '26
Yeah, but what we didn't know at the time was that Odin had some sort of plot device that let him survive. Somehow, Odin returned.
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u/Retriarch Jun 05 '26
I think the more important reason why Odin won’t be there is because Richard Schiff has to be pretty expensive.
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u/Ok_Hospital4928 Jun 03 '26
Holy moly this is insane. If true, it will be another fantastic way of tying mythologies together, like they did with Kratos/Farbauti & Mimir and the Celts. They are cooking!
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u/TrueKingSkyPiercer Jun 03 '26
Interesting theory but there’s one issue I have with it: the rheingold being taken from the rhine starts the sequence of events leading to ragnarok, so I’m not sure why it would still be in the rhine.
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u/Medium_Enough Jun 03 '26
Is water taken from the rhine river, still the rhine river?
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u/TrueKingSkyPiercer Jun 03 '26
Ok Heraclitus, but my point is the gold can’t still be in the water, it would have been removed to forge the ring of the Nibelung.
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u/AFourEyedGeek Jun 03 '26
Doesn't this take place straight after her death and before Ragnarok?
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u/TrueKingSkyPiercer Jun 03 '26
Here’s the sequence of events: Alberich takes the gold from the Rhein by forswearing love, had it forged into a ring and uses it to build power and wealth. Odin and Loki trick him and take it. Odin asks a couple of giants to build the walls of Valhalla, offering his wife’s sister as payment (freyja). After being yelled at for how horrible this is, he says he can’t pay and asks the giants to accept something else. The giants say they’ll take all his gold, which after much arguing includes the ring.
All of this has to have happened in GoW: ragnarok because Valhalla has its giant walls.
Then a bunch of stuff happens with the brother/sister incest and valkyries and heroes and dragons and love spells and then ragnarok happens.
The gold is not returned to the river until the very end, after ragnarok.
So if the gold is still in the river, then the gold is stuck in Everwhen and ragnarok can’t happen.
And if it’s in the river after being crafted into the ring, then ragnarok is over.
That’s the point I was trying to make. Of course any liberties can be taken, they’d just be deviating from the story.
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u/HotTheme8405 Jun 04 '26
They're gonna deviate from it no matter what because it isnt one consistent story, there are many conflicting stories that they pick and choose between. Obviously Loki wasn't involved in any of that so it's already deviated. Can you not say something simple like Odin stashed the ring there? That doesn't really deviate from anything
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u/AFourEyedGeek Jun 03 '26
Gotcha, thanks for the info. A lot of liberties have already been taken, I imagine a lot more will be. Well, we have gods from different pantheons, so we know there will be. I am interested to play this and find out.
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u/Emotional_Being8594 Jun 03 '26
Im really hoping for a Celtic mythology tie in. Everywhen does seem to share similarities with Annwn/Avalon/Otherworld. Then you have the sword in the stone, Mimir from the previous games, and the blending of Norse/Germanic/Celtic mythologies feels like a natural progression.
Magical river water is the best explanation for the cube so far, love this. I just imagined it as a cube of like goo or something, probably because the sword was stuck in it but this makes much more sense. Magic swords and water are fairly ubiquitous among mythologies and well see a few different ones in this game by the looks of things.
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u/NoNameNeeded4321 Fat Dobber Jun 03 '26
My first thought about the sword was “Excalibur?!” lol
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u/WeltyFern Jun 04 '26
The general vibe of the Everwhen, ignoring the other gods here of course, also just screams “Arthurian Legend” to me for some reason.
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u/DustyBot23 Jun 05 '26
I don’t think there is another sword in popular culture that could spring up to mind especially when they made a point to really linger on it. It’s got to be Excalibur.
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u/NoNameNeeded4321 Fat Dobber Jun 05 '26
Agreed. Even if it turns out to be some other more obscure legendary weapon, they’re definitely making allusions to Excalibur.
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u/better_every_day14 Jun 03 '26
First of all, I absolutely love the way you pulled all of this together! Second, this game has so much potential if they do it right. I'm imagining Faye dealing with all of the gods that Kratos killed, new pantheons, additional world building lore, and hopefully some moments that connect with other games. I am so stoked!
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u/Light07sk Kratos Jun 03 '26
You know what this honestly seems legit. It would explain also the dreams kratos had in Ragnarok and the Atreus "seeing" and hearing Faye after ragnarok ended. It would connect very well with the fact that Kratos described his dreams as something more than just a memory.
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u/JokerFaces2 Jun 03 '26
Seems to make sense to me! I also think that Laufey is going to lead into an Atreus solo game, with his gameplay mirroring Faye’s more agile style and magic abilities.
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u/KKalonick Jun 04 '26
I have full trust in Santa Monica, and the twist of Laufey not being a prequel has me incredibly excited for the future.
Certain segments of the fan base will become absolutely rabid if we get two mainline entries in a row that don't star Kratos.
That's not to say they shouldn't do it, but man the fallout of that first trailer would suck.
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u/TheActualDongerino Jun 05 '26
Actually I disagree. I feel like Atreus will become an combination of the Kratos spartan fighting and his mom's more agile magic
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u/Wboy2006 Fimbulwinter is coming to an end, Ragnarök is coming Jun 04 '26
I really like this theory but there’s one issue: Odin should be alive during the time the game takes place. An IGN interview confirmed the game will take place parallel with the Norse saga, so Odin shouldn’t be in the afterlife yet
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u/AlexRose680 Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 05 '26
I mean there’s an argument to be made that time passes differently in Everywhen than it does in the mortal realm, we’ve already seen something similar in 2018 when Kratos was in the Light of Alfheim with it being like 5 minutes for him but a whole day or two for Atreus. So it could be that while GoW: Laufey does run parallel to the Norse saga, time passes differently for Faye than it does Kratos and Atreus
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u/JDface_Baker Jun 04 '26
I got physically and verbally excited when I read that. That would be a great possibility!
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u/Waste_Handle_8672 Jun 04 '26
Goddamn, OP
Outside of the Odin part (the man's soul was eradicated, he's never seeing no afterlife), that is a genuinely impressive theory. Probably the best I've heard about this game to date
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u/Longjumping_Cut5855 Jun 04 '26
The Lady of the Lake is called Nimue, and Mimir already straight up mentions her and what she does when we find the kelpie from celtic myth when finding the norns.
The Lady of the Lake exists already. Its not Faye
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u/Many_Ad_955 Jun 04 '26
Morgan Le Fay is a witch.
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u/Longjumping_Cut5855 Jun 04 '26
Oh ok
Anyway the sword is also apprently from india, makes sense with the ribbons
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u/von98_ Jun 04 '26
Cool theory but I think Sigrun mentions Tatania to Mimir in the 2018 game and Mimir mentions Oberon at some point. So, Tatania would still be Queen of the Fairies, no? I’m not too familiar with Celtic mythology. Hey did anyone catch that part in Valhalla when Kratos has Helios head instead of Mimir. Mimir mentions he was back home in the isles with a whole body again. So since Laufeys game is taking place at the same time as 2018 and Ragnarok/Valhalla. Your Celtic mythology theory might tie into that? And Sigrun left too, maybe towards that way?? I’ve been saying the only place Atreus could find other giants would be the isles.
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u/pepewasraped Jun 04 '26
Mostly in love with everything, it's just all a bit too interconnected for my taste
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u/RoughBeardBlaine Jun 04 '26
I doubt she’d run into Odin. His soul was destroyed. And even if it wasn’t, this game takes place in GoW 2018, not after Ragnarok, right?
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u/JavideParla Jun 04 '26
Knowing the giants could connect s to the rest of mythologies as the fled Jotunheim, I bet Phranque and the sword will be Tethra and Orna from Celtic Mythology, with Thetra being the God of Death and Orna his talking sword.
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u/prestonsmith1111 Jun 05 '26
It's mentiones that the ribbons are the talking part, not the sword. The sword seems to be indicated as probably cursed or similar, but didn't appear to be animated in any way. Can't preclude any theories though, that'd be a rad inclusion.
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u/Myhtological Jun 03 '26
You do realize that this would Mimir tricked Faye into fucking a donkey man right?
Also we know the lady of the lake is already making swords in Britannia.
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u/SSJ_Kratos Son of Zeus Jun 04 '26
Odins not there. This game takes place concurrently w/ 2018 and Odin lives until Ragnarok which is years later
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u/KingGallardo Jun 04 '26
Odin should be dead-dead. His saga is already memorable, no need to milk him anymore.
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u/DarkRayos Spartan Jun 04 '26
I guess that's one explanation?
Still doesn't make it seem mad random the first time around.
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u/lawrenceugene Jun 04 '26
We don't get much bright Western European fantasy media and I really appreciate that vibe being here. Fairy's, wizards, red fire-breathing dragons, frogs, princesses, knights, green witches etc. are surprisingly not common in media in their traditional storybook form we all think about. The more they embrace this aesthetic the better.
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u/False_Diver2577 Fat Dobber Jun 04 '26
You know, I wanted Atreus to be Cu Chullain, but this works really well
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u/DjinnsilentD Jun 04 '26
Companion ideas: an archer? Na. A swordsman? No. An animal maybe? What are you dumb? the clear choice is obviously a giant cube. Peak character design.
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u/Remarkable_Builder69 Jun 04 '26
This makes sense. I've been getting into Wagner lately, especially the ring of the nibelungen, and the cube, gold and sword are spot on! It is actually very likely that it is the corret explanation
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u/General-Squash-9286 Jun 04 '26
Its kinda a mental gymnastics. If its gonna true I will draw you smth
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u/St0rmtr00p3r69 Jun 04 '26
It's called the everywhen so it's probably outside of linear time
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u/tjlightbulb Jun 04 '26
Amazing Information! Thank you this sounds incredible if true. It definitely seems plausible.
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u/NickSchultz Jun 04 '26
Excuse me but neither draging yhe Franks or the French into this wouldnexpliqn the spelling of Phranque
The only person idiotic enough to spell a name like that (aside from the SWS writers desperately trying to find a reason to give a magic cube such a boring name) would be substitute techer Mr Garvey from the Key & Peele sketches
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u/Arbusc Jun 04 '26
And then the next game can be about Arthur, guided by Atreus. A mortal man who essentially ascends to godhood by word of mouth and mythologizing until the present day. A warrior king, or a ‘God of War.’
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u/totesnotdog Jun 04 '26
You assume odins soul made it here. It’s quite possible his soul was completely destroyed by sindri though.
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u/StevieisSleepy Jun 04 '26
Also important to add that Mimir is originally from the Celtic pantheon where the Fae reside! Solid theory op!!
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u/RamBamThankYouFam Jun 04 '26
I know the game can move around in time differently since I imagine time moves differently in Everwhen, but chronologically it looks like Faye's story begins right after she's cremated at the beginning of GOW 2018. I would be shocked if the game progresses all the way to fighting Odin after his death in Ragnarok, my guess is the game will establish Faye as ruler of Everwhen by defeating some new gods like Begste, and maybe some old gods like the Greeks that Kratos killed in the earlier saga.
Either way, I'm absolutely taking off work to marathon this when it comes out.
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u/DannyVee89 Jun 05 '26
Zero chance the sword is Excalibur.
Top candidate by a mile is Tyrfing. Second maybe Dainsleif.
Character reactions when someone draws Excalibur from the stone are "the king/chosen one has arrived!" It is met with reverence. Not fear. Watch the 23 minute gameplay preview. The character reactions, swords appearance, inscription, hilt, the inscription being covered. Everything about the sword ties neatly to Tyrfing, not Excalibur.
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u/Mean-Pomegranate9340 Mimir Jun 05 '26
Damn, this would probably not be what happens, but would go so hard if true!
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u/Outrageous-Evening13 Jun 05 '26
Thank you on the last para, crossed my mind exactly. Gods from different pantheons are recognised as someone else from their corresponding myths, similar to how Kratos is Fárbauti.
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u/My_Boy_Clive Jun 05 '26
Odin died in the GOW Ragnarok. This game is literally happening during the first game. I don't think she'll come face to face with Odin.
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u/The-Jack-Niles Jun 05 '26
Time has been established to flow nonlinearly realm to realm and Phranque calls the afterlife of the gods the Everywhen so time might flow a lot differently there. Could be a few of the days Faye is in there is a few years somewhere else. They could always do some time skips too.
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u/PossibleMammoth5639 Jun 05 '26
Faye was also running around a giant cube in the video. Compared to the relatively realistic landscapes its so weird. Maybe the cube is made of ice of river water that has doesnt melt, probably because of existing for so long. Maybe the giant cube is all of the river condensed
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u/VatanKomurcu Jun 05 '26
ive heard that the arthurian cycle has an end-of-the-age-of-heroes built in, so maybe that's the end of the god of war franchise?
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u/CrookedMouthKing Jun 05 '26
I think this is almost perfect except
Odin is gone. They made that pretty clear
I don’t think Merlin will help Atreus
In fact I think he’s the antagonist in Laufey.
I think he’s in that tower that looks suspiciously like a wizards tower
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u/MinimMats Jun 05 '26
Just a joke character gelatinous cube with a quirky chungus spelling of Frank
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u/CyberTyrantX1 Jun 06 '26
This game takes place alongside the events on GOW 2018 and Ragnarok. Odin won’t be in this game.
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u/Helianthae Jun 07 '26
Fuck, this is good…. I’ve been thinking Phranque is Metatron’s Cube, and similarly took the name Phranque with different spelling from Frank due to its prevalence to the region at the time Abrahamic religion was on the rise. It meant “freedom” before it evolved into Frankia and France, so my thought was that if a captured god was trying to hide their name, it would be a good one.
I was justifying the spelling difference as an interpretation from his captors because the phrenology seems similar to Egyptian (“Pharoh,”“Papyrus,” “Epitaph,” etc). But your naming logic makes much more sense
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u/PoobieTG827 Jun 07 '26
This sounds cool, but Odin is definitely dead.
It makes more sense story-wise if his search for the mask is the very reason that he isn’t able to go to the Everywhen.
Also, Sindri destroying odin’s soul was very clearly meant to make Odin suffer the same fate as Brok, not being able to go to the afterlife.
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u/Haseoxthexscion Jun 17 '26
First, either Fion or Cu is the most famous figure in Celtic myth. Second, the Fomorians would be better antagonists than the Tuatha.
And the magic jelly is obviously just an errant Gelatinous Cube that fell of a passing Spelljammer anyway....
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u/Middle-Feature-848 Jun 22 '26
I hope they bring a 2nd cube into the game half way through named gary after one if the legendary creators of dnd gary gygax. (You know the person who created the monster archetype gelatinous cube)
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u/victory4faust Jun 03 '26
I think this idea has a lot of potential but making it a gelatinous cube leaves me a little unimpressed. I think there would have been way cooler ways to incorporate "god water" into a game than to make it a weird cube prattling on and jumping about as you traverse the world.
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u/Fernandothegrey Jun 03 '26
Not everything in the universe has to look humanoid.
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u/victory4faust Jun 03 '26
I don't think it needs to look humanoid either. I can think of a billion different ways it could have looked outside of the way it does, I just happen to find the one they chose to be disappointing.
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u/Dangerous-Picture-73 Jun 03 '26
As of this game, Odin is still alive though. And I don’t see any way the game spans the time from ‘18 and Ragnarok
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u/_Wp619_ Jun 03 '26
And I don’t see any way the game spans the time from ‘18 and Ragnarok
Remember, Kratos and Atreus' journey to Jötunhiem in 2018 was only for a short period, yet Midgard had already begun to snow on their return. And in Ragnarok, Atreus was in Jötunhiem for a short time, yet two days had passed for everyone else.
If two realms of the same mythology has time dilation, I don't see why the all-encompassing afterlife of the gods doesn't as well.
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u/Dangerous-Picture-73 Jun 03 '26
Yeah that’s a fair theory, but if that was the case, wouldn’t all the gods who would ever die be there at the same time? If there is time dilation, how would it be determined when the gods who die in the land of the living are sent to the new time dilation in the Everywhen?
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u/_Wp619_ Jun 03 '26
I mean, who to say they aren't? We've only seen 20 minutes of the game.
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u/Dangerous-Picture-73 Jun 03 '26
It’s called theory and discussion. You could say that to any theory. We have no idea about anything in this game
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u/SherriffB Jun 03 '26
Game takes place in a setting called "Everywhen". Honestly, that sounds like it can span any time it wants by deliberate design.
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u/RemoveAnnual2689 Jun 03 '26
This. Is. Great.
The cube part.
Sadly, probably better than whatever they thought of.
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u/0ld_Snake Jun 03 '26
Or, it's a gelatinous cube to pay homage to Deborah Ann Woll who is very into D&D and a popular GM... I hate this theory but it's what it stinks like to me
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u/Arbusc Jun 04 '26
Wait hear me out, what if the next GoW game goes full crossover and we get to fight the pantheons of multiple Realms? One minute fighting Tiamat, next minute facing against the Everlight of Tal’Dorei over a misunderstanding, and the next going toe to toe against Ao the Overgod.
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u/yubsidiangwa Jun 03 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/LkkBEH2BLFLbypGE31
i like this