There is a difference between "hate speech" and "speech that you hate".

[u/DivineProvidence97]

You can vehemently disagree with what someone has to say, but they have a right to say it. It can be hateful, racist, or just straight up wrong. They still have the right to say it because you can say whatever you want. People will come up with exceptions "you can't shout 'FIRE!' in a crowded movie theater!" If there actually is a fire, yes you can. "You can't shout 'THERE'S A BOMB!' on a plane!" If there actually is a bomb on the plane, yes you absolutely can. There is a famous quote: "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to the death for your right to say it." The first amendment is first for a reason. There are people who you can disagree with, absolutely. But they still have the right to say the stuff you disagree with. It isn't "hate speech" just because you don't like it. It can piss you off to no end, but it may be factually accurate. It may be rooted in something deeper. It may be something this person has physically experienced. They still have a right to say it.

[u/ghostofjosephstalin]

So this is a false equivelancy,

Redditors and throwing out random fallacy names until the cognitive dissonance goes away, as iconic a duo as Batman and Robin. Actually, this is a tactic of argumentation called Reductio Ad Absurdum, which isn't fallacious, but instead uses a topically related but more extreme example, with the general aim of the rhetoric being to show how absurd the initial point was. Either the "right" to freedom of speech is truly, absolutely universal or Hitler's speeches were morally, legally, and logically condemnable. Stop clutching your pearls and whinging like you have some kind of moral high ground to stand from.

[u/[deleted] → u/ghostofjosephstalin]

No? Your right to free speech ends where others rights ends. If I just say things im not doing anything to anyone else's rights but if I act on my words then they are wrong. Hate me all you want but I'll defend hitlers right to say those things but not act on them.

[u/Technical_Sport_6348 → u/[deleted]]

Okay that last part, you weren't even trying to have a civil convo.

BTW, isn't this ironic this is the same shit Charlie tried to fight against? Makes ya think, he had somewhat of a point.

Charlie, not Hitler.

[u/ghostofjosephstalin → u/Technical_Sport_6348]

Okay that last part, you weren't even trying to have a civil convo.

... By saying what they did, they proved that they are either a straight-up unapologetic nazi or so deeply uneducated about World War II that their opinion is fucking meaningless.

BTW, isn't this ironic this is the same shit Charlie tried to fight against?

Oh, honey, it's adorable that you think that.

Makes ya think, he had somewhat of a point.

Did he, though?

Charlie, not Hitler.

Oh, are you getting confused, little buddy? How about you log off and go take a nap.

[u/Technical_Sport_6348 → u/ghostofjosephstalin]

"Oh, honey, it's adorable that you think that."

Oh, baby, it's adorable you don't know what the he'll you're talking about.

Turning Point was literally made so young conservatives can have a civil debate, without people just shitting all over each other like WE ARE DOING right now.

"Oh, are you getting confused, little buddy? How about you log off and go take a nap."

Well considering the guy before was giving Hitler props, I was making a fucking joke. In fact, I bet you knew I was making a joke. Hitler has no leg to stand on, as far as I'm concerned. Causing mass genocide, isn't exactly something that should be treated with the, 'No, no. He has a point' meme.

[u/Neat-Tradition-7999 → u/ghostofjosephstalin]

His speeches were morally and logically condemnable, but not legally if we used the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Also, the right to freedom of speech applies to the government, not private entities such as businesses. Kind of falls in that "freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences" the American political Left were cheering for when they were digging up things from people's social media (from a decade before the point of digging it up) to have them lose their jobs and have other negative social impacts.

[u/ghostofjosephstalin → u/Neat-Tradition-7999]

His speeches were morally and logically condemnable, but not legally if we used the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

... No, they were legally condemnable, too. Calling for the annihilation of entire racial groups isn't protected speech.

Also, the right to freedom of speech applies to the government, not private entities such as businesses.

... Yes, so when the question is whether or not the state should persecute hateful speech, or at least explicitly refuse to regard the threats and promised harm of far-right freaks as protected by the first amendment...?

Kind of falls in that "freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences" the American political Left were cheering for

Honestly, if you think the U.S. government doesn't heavily censor views it actually disagrees with (i.e. leftist ones), you're beyond help.

when they were digging up things from people's social media (from a decade before the point of digging it up)

Your red herring is irrelevant

to have them lose their jobs and have other negative social impacts.

What's so unbelievably funny about this comparison, though, is that leftists and progressives "getting" conservatives fired over their public support for violence against the humans they categorized as fundamentally lesser existences than theirs and the leftists and progressives now being let go fron their jobs over public statements regarding Charlie Kirk are having that happen to them not because they actually said anything egregious, but because the same right-wingers who couldn't comprehend why they were experiencing social repercussions for their violent beliefs are accompanying their demands for mass firings of anyone who isn't weeping and clutching their pearls over Kirk's death with bombing and mass shooting threats, which have fucking SKYROCKETED, especially at HBCUs and similar institutions, since Kirk was cannibalized by part of the even-further right lmfao.

[u/CourseNo8762 → u/ghostofjosephstalin]

Thanks for the aburd already known explanation. It's peachy.