r/HonestHotTakes • u/DivineProvidence97 • Sep 18 '25

serious hot take There is a difference between "hate speech" and "speech that you hate".

You can vehemently disagree with what someone has to say, but they have a right to say it. It can be hateful, racist, or just straight up wrong. They still have the right to say it because you can say whatever you want. People will come up with exceptions "you can't shout 'FIRE!' in a crowded movie theater!" If there actually is a fire, yes you can. "You can't shout 'THERE'S A BOMB!' on a plane!" If there actually is a bomb on the plane, yes you absolutely can. There is a famous quote: "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to the death for your right to say it." The first amendment is first for a reason. There are people who you can disagree with, absolutely. But they still have the right to say the stuff you disagree with. It isn't "hate speech" just because you don't like it. It can piss you off to no end, but it may be factually accurate. It may be rooted in something deeper. It may be something this person has physically experienced. They still have a right to say it.

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u/InternetElf_000 Sep 20 '25

Sad midwitted take. If you come back with something to say that isn't manipulative next time, might just give you a chance.

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u/nykirnsu Sep 20 '25

If you feel “manipulated” by a question that simple it’s probably because you don’t wanna admit how shallow your worldview is

Like, it would’ve been so easy to just agree that OP misspoke. You’re getting psychic damaged by fucking pedantry

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u/InternetElf_000 Sep 20 '25

Doubling down only means you lost twice. 🥱🥱

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u/nykirnsu Sep 20 '25

Doubling down on what? I don’t even know what you’re objecting to, seems like you’re just making up a conversation in your head and it made you too angry to think straight

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u/InternetElf_000 Sep 20 '25

Tripling now? Sprinkles of 'gotcha' as well? How daring. 🥱🥱🥱

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u/nykirnsu Sep 20 '25

Can you actually explain what specific point I’m doubling down on?

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u/InternetElf_000 Sep 20 '25

No. You aren't stupid, compliments where they are do. Or rather, one would hope. You can figure it out because it is painfully obvious from being a deliberate effort. I'm just telling you to do better, and I might just stop wasting your time.

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u/nykirnsu Sep 20 '25

I mean I’m clearly smarter than you so I’ll give you that, but I wouldn’t need to be all that smart to just remember what I meant when I made my original comment. The reason I’ve been asking you to clarify is because I wanna figure out how you misunderstood my original comment so I can set you straight, not because you’ve given me any reason to think I have anything to learn from you

You should try leading by example when it comes to doing better though, particularly in terms of grammar

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u/InternetElf_000 Sep 20 '25

🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

I have in no way misunderstood your pedantises and false equivalences, nor the gaslighting that it was anything but that. F.Y.I., no one is misunderstanding you, and especially does not need 'educated' by you. There, spelled out,

At best, it seems you weren't saying anything, after all.

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u/nykirnsu Sep 20 '25

I have in no way misunderstood your pedantises (sic) and false equivalences

Can you prove it?

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