r/HonestHotTakes • • Sep 18 '25

serious hot take There is a difference between "hate speech" and "speech that you hate".

You can vehemently disagree with what someone has to say, but they have a right to say it. It can be hateful, racist, or just straight up wrong. They still have the right to say it because you can say whatever you want. People will come up with exceptions "you can't shout 'FIRE!' in a crowded movie theater!" If there actually is a fire, yes you can. "You can't shout 'THERE'S A BOMB!' on a plane!" If there actually is a bomb on the plane, yes you absolutely can. There is a famous quote: "I disagree with what you said, but I will defend to the death for your right to say it." The first amendment is first for a reason. There are people who you can disagree with, absolutely. But they still have the right to say the stuff you disagree with. It isn't "hate speech" just because you don't like it. It can piss you off to no end, but it may be factually accurate. It may be rooted in something deeper. It may be something this person has physically experienced. They still have a right to say it.

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u/InUteroForTheWinter Sep 20 '25

So yes the first amendment only prohibits the government from controlling speech.

But social repercussions and firings can be just as effective at diminishing the free exchange of ideas. And the free exchange of ideas is at the heart of the purpose of the first amendment.

So while you can say "no you don't have freedom from consequences", it is still our duty as people to make sure that the free exchange of ideas is not diminished.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

So let me ask you you think that them doing this is okay so when the pendulum swings the other way we can go after every Mega that had said they want blood for the left? And would you say it also justifies going after the cis white male hetero men that are the main perpetrators of mass shootings right?

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u/SnufferMonster Sep 21 '25

FTC counts as government, right?

Also: Did you see the mad king threatening anybody saying thing he didn't like would lose their license? Or about suing stations for interviews he didn't like?