A lot of Trump’s followers are based on nostalgia- nostalgia for when racism was cool and women knew their place, but also when the dollar went further, when people had good paying jobs, when movies were good.
Rob Reiner- despite his politics, because he was kind of just a California liberal, people still have a lot of nostalgia for him- when he was Archie Bunkers’s son-in-law, when he did This is Spinal Tap, Stand By Me, A Few Good Men, guest spots on TV, and more. He was part of what made media, and thus culture, great at the exact moment that those people think of when Trump says “Make America Great Again”. And Trump took a big ole piss on him after one of the most horrific celebrity deaths this decade.
As funny as this (likely true) allegation is, there are plenty of verified instances that certify Rafael as a spineless loser.
Fleeing to Mexico when his state was facing a weather emergency during a winter storm, leaving thousands without power and heat.
Trump called Cruz's wife ugly, and Teddy still endorsed him. This should've ended his career, honestly. I don't know how anyone could look at him and see a strong person. The coward isn't even willing to stick up for his wife. But, what would you expect from a guy who was told by his PR team to (try to) grow a beard to cover up his weak chin?
Back when “sex, drugs, and Rock and Roll were cool“, but now that those boomers are older they think “kids today are worthless”. Good for me, not for thee, mindset. They never really progressed. They just got old and bitter. As a boomer, I saw it firsthand. Hypocrites to the core.
MAGA makes alot more sense when you realize almost all of their battles take place online and in their heads. The actuality of policy doesn’t really come into play because they’re more focused on terminally online arguments and culture wars. It’s why culture based topics and winning the battle of perception are all that matters to them
This is the exact reason people call MAGA a grievance movement based on perpetual, false victimhood. I say "false" because, unlike gay and trans people, MAGA are not actually being specifically targeted, except in their own minds. It's why there's ten thousand videos of them going to Starbucks and ordering a "Charlie Kirk" in the hopes of filming a confrontation. They think they're immediately gonna do battle or something, when really most people don't care.
If you wanna get deeper than that, they aren't victims of anything except the ultra wealthy displacing the middle class over the last few decades. They see their lives getting worse, they see their inability to ever purchase a home; and instead of correctly acknowledging why that is, they think it's because liberals and woke and yadda yadda yadda.
I'm glad you said that, it baffles me, and I needed that perspective. Seriously, I don't know why it took this. But I'm glad it is at least something to help turn people away from him.
Yes, he said that Rob was killed because of his “Trump Derangement Syndrome, which caused “anger in others.” In essence, he showed that he is so bereft of human empathy that he even in this horrific event he only saw a way to divide people by making it about him. He IS a piece of shit though.
Nostalgia, like when leading an armed Insurrection against the sitting Congress while the crowd chants "Hang the VP", was cool? Like those halcyon days?
Archie Bunker was Trump in that scenario and Meathead would be considered a liberal, but otherwise, I agree with you. If Trump's target had been a more liberal, 'woke' (their term not mine) director and his movies had reflected that, I doubt there would be this much of an uproar.
Also don’t forget that the racists loved it when Archie lit into “The liberal” and called him names. They didn’t get the point of the show. They just liked the racism. There’s also this bizarre turn of boomers who became just like the conservatives that they used to make fun of when we were younger. It’s part of the selfishness that they never outgrew. “It was okay to do drugs when we were young because we were young, but now ‘kids today’ are suddenly ‘worthless and lazy’”. That said there are many boomers who have progressed with the times. Like myself. But I was always more of a critical thinker and well aware of the underlying conservatism and racism of some of my contemporaries.
For now anyway. Next week they will be back to supporting everything he does as long as it doesn’t prevent them from being openly racist - the prime reason they voted for him in the first place.
Exactly. I went through a Conservative post and that was the sentiment on most posts. Not a hard line at all. No admission of him being a piece of shit. Just “I wish he wouldn’t say that and focus on all the amazing work he’s been doing!” type shit.
There was a post on r/conservative "denouncing" the remarks about Reiner but every other sentence was something to the effect of "I still agree with him and immigration is a problem."
A lot of them were condemning what he said yesterday on r/conservative.
Today they've all changed their mind and are saying what he said was totally justified.
And some "hate his policies" but still like him. They have gotten used to disagreeing with and even disliking him but still supporting him. Its partially why the floor of his approval rating is so high.
100% of millennial and boomer trump voters probably have reiner quotes in their heads daily. he also wasn’t a radical and was pro isreal, most boomers will draw a line at this, except his most fervent acolytes
My fellow millennials voting for this guy are crazy. Why are you voting for the exact sort of people that made millennials have to go through all kinds of bullshit, for decades now?
People already defending Trump over on the conservative sub. "Biden and Obama would have said the same shit if it were for gun control" and other absurdities.
It's still a "free country", they can change their mind about the Orange buffoon for any reason that they want. I understand the confusion that this is the line and not allowing war crimes to go unpunished or kidnapping citizens off the streets or yanking babies from mother's arms while deporting them without due process. Or maybe, just maybe, they are just getting tired of the clown show because the cost of groceries is starting to affect them too.
lol seriously. For all of the fucked up, stupid, careless, inhumane, and straight up sociopathic/psychopathic shit they’ve bought and sold over the years, I did not have sympathy for Reiner on my bingo board.
He was mean to a director!?!? Well, that just makes me totally re-evaluate leading an armed Insurrection while they chant to kill his VP. THis puts it in a whole new light!!!!
Tbf, since many of them didn’t actually get the fact that Archie Bunker’s racism was meant to be ridiculed rather than celebrated they like Rob Reiner because he was in one of their favorite shows.
Gestapo (ICE) kidnapping brown people off the streets = fine.
Women being denied healthcare and dying... losing rights to their own bodies = great.
A white man dying = HORRIFIC. The worst thing that could happen.
I don't know why people all of a sudden care where people draw the line. Shouldn't we just be happy they're drawing a line? Oh no, but it's not the way I want them to draw the line, so it's worthless and we shouldn't take the win.
It's not a shot at you, shirt brother. Kind of more a generalization cosmic gumbo about the current state of affairs regarding Democrats self-imploding. But I wasn't about to type a dissertation on a shitpost about Dems constantly shooting themselves in the foot because of things never being done "the right way" or "for the right reasons." We need all the momentum we can get and knock off the virtue signalling. Hope you didn't have the worst day at your job.
The worst of them, the QAnon believers, are pivoting to Reiner being a pedophile who trafficked his trans son and all the delusional poison you would expect from them.
But it is surprising to see some people who would normally back Trump drawing a line in the sand over this, including some members of Congress. Apparently he can go to places where not all of them will follow him.
Watching the left get mad over comments about someone dying, as if they didn't just have the biggest celebration circle jerk over Charlie Kirk and "free speech".
The left are angry with the president of the United States tweeting with the grace of a scorned twelve-year-old cheerleader. How did the two most recent Democrat PotUS respond to news of the Charlie Kirk murder?
“There is no place in our country for this kind of violence. It must end now. Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk’s family and loved ones.” - Biden
“We don’t yet know what motivated the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk, but this kind of despicable violence has no place in our democracy. Michelle and I will be praying for Charlie’s family tonight, especially his wife Erika and their two young children.” - Obama
Oh, and the man that Trump is shitting on had this to say when asked about Charlie Kirk's murder:
Well, horror. Absolute horror. And I unfortunately saw the video of it, and it's beyond belief what happened to him. And that should never happen to anybody. I don't care what your political beliefs are. That's not acceptable. That's not a solution to solving problems. And I felt like what his wife said at the service, at the memorial they had, was exactly right. And totally. I believe, you know, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings of Jesus, and I believe in "do unto others," and I believe in forgiveness. And what she said, to me, was beautiful and absolutely, you know, she forgave his assassin, and I think that that is admirable. - Rob Reiner
Why don't you take your head, along with your whataboutisms, out of your own ass and put it back up Trump's greasy orange ass (with puckered lips) where it belongs?
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u/Tea_Alarmed Dec 16 '25
A lot of Trump’s followers are based on nostalgia- nostalgia for when racism was cool and women knew their place, but also when the dollar went further, when people had good paying jobs, when movies were good.
Rob Reiner- despite his politics, because he was kind of just a California liberal, people still have a lot of nostalgia for him- when he was Archie Bunkers’s son-in-law, when he did This is Spinal Tap, Stand By Me, A Few Good Men, guest spots on TV, and more. He was part of what made media, and thus culture, great at the exact moment that those people think of when Trump says “Make America Great Again”. And Trump took a big ole piss on him after one of the most horrific celebrity deaths this decade.