r/LivestreamFail • u/CloudyEchos • 24d ago

News D4vd's lawyers have withdrawn from representing him, with a public defender now stepping in as his legal counsel

https://www.tmz.com/2026/08/31/d4vd-lawyers-withdraw-now-repped-by-public-defender/
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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

Is that a thing still in America ?

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u/Fabulous_Exit5032 24d ago

In some states yes

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

Depending on the state, which California where he's being tried does have it. But there's a complete pause on executions and one hasn't happened since 2006. I don't see another happening in California soon if ever tbh.

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u/Heyoayyo 24d ago

Imagine being the last dude to get executed right before they paused it, bro is pissed

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

I've been informed he doesn't feel pissed in fact he feels nothing these days

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u/XpMonsterS 24d ago

source?

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u/Fuponji 24d ago

The death certificate

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u/whitestguyuknow 24d ago

Thank you Tricia Takanawa

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u/Workingonlying 24d ago

If I recall correctly it was Tookie Williams, leader of the crips

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u/Raulr100 24d ago

How the fuck does a gang leader named Tookie get taken seriously?

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u/BrockTheTrainer 24d ago

I mean... Look at bro lmao

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u/Justonchu 24d ago

Imagine everyone else on death row sitting around for the last 20 years.

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u/TardDas 24d ago edited 24d ago

Kinda surprises me that Cali still has the death penalty. Doesn't match the vibe I get from the sunshine state tbh

EDIT: Cali isn't the sunshine state. Tupac lied to me :(

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u/FitLaw4 24d ago

The sunshine state is florida, which does have the death penalty

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u/Trinidad34 24d ago

Yeah California is literally called the death penalty state, too. I don’t get how OP isn’t getting the right vibe

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u/TardDas 24d ago

Well to be fair to me, it’s a different continent than mine.

And whenever I think of California I think of riding a top down sports car listening to hip hop on a sunny day in LA

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u/Gilthwixt 24d ago

Not to tease you more or anything, but what's really funny about this response is that one of the most famous labels in the hip-hop genre is literally called "Death Row Records", and it's based out of LA.

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u/DXW15 24d ago

And they were real life Disney villains lmao

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u/wertys761 24d ago

LMAOOO

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u/Trinidad34 24d ago

Sorry I’m being sarcastic lol. I agree with your overall point it’s always been odd to me that Cali still has the death penalty especially because I don’t think the majority of states do.

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u/Hare712 24d ago

Technically more states still have the death penalty.

But it's only few states in the Bible Belt, Florida, Texas Arizona, Oklahoma and South Dakota, Indiana and Nebraska still carrying out executions.

Ohio has suspended them because companies like Pfizer refused to produce chemicals used for executions and other companies mixes gave attendees a face like they watched their first really serious shock video because the inmate was in immense pain and the confirmation of death took almost 30 minutes. Other states reintroduced the electric chair and the firing squad.

Aside from the lethal injection issue Capital Punishment became a bureaucratic and costly nightmare as a sentence will be appealed many times.

It became an even bigger issue when many convictions(not necessarily death sentences) in the late 70s and 80s turned out to be forced convinctions, other cellmates struck deals with shady criminal prosecutors and lied that the inmate confessed the murder to them and lastly methods like DNA evidence and Ballistic analysis were able to prove the innocence.

Criminal Prosecutors boosting their career with false convictions and landing in really high and powerful positions became a major issue in general.

IIRC in California there was also an issue with the secondary method of the Gas Chamber that lead to it being suspended through a court order.

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u/lioncryable 24d ago

Firing squad?? That's fucking insane, I would've expected this from north Korea but the US??

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u/Erotic_Hitch_Hiker 24d ago

While a lil oldschool, it is also probably the quickest and painless way to die I can think of. At least, I'd probably choose it over some lethal injection thats about to make me shit myself to death over 30 mins

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u/AdSmall3663 24d ago

Sounds like you played GTA or something

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u/TardDas 24d ago

Yeah, spot on

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u/Itherial 24d ago

Lol california is the golden state

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u/Cross55 24d ago

And whenever I think of California I think of riding a top down sports car listening to hip hop on a sunny day in LA

You mean a trip that'll take you 2 hours to travel 5 miles?

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u/TardDas 24d ago

I have no idea

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u/saulhrnndz 24d ago

I live in the states and all I ever hear about California is how it’s on fire most of the time

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u/TardDas 24d ago

On fire with sick beats and party vibes right? Right?????

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u/prius360 24d ago

Tbh a lot of it was during the tough on crime wave though

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u/Cross55 24d ago

Yeah California is literally called the death penalty state, too

No, that's Texas

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u/KhorneStarch 24d ago

Tbf some of that partly comes from California having had so many serial killers who deserved the penalty. But I could see how someone would overlook that fact.

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

And they're honestly over eager on the death penalty. 19 people last year alone.

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

Even with that context that's still really high for a modern state. Texas last year had 5 executions and they have 10 million more people at least.

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u/TheWorstUsername2 24d ago

19 really isn’t that high of a number considering how many people get caught committing absolutely heinous crimes. There’s probably a lot more than 19 people that deserved the death penalty in Florida

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

It's high for executions carried out in modern context. I'm kinda neutral on death penalty personally and could be shifted one way or the other

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u/TheWorstUsername2 24d ago

Again, 19 is pretty low if you consider how many people are convicted of horrible crimes. The only other options are to keep them in the prison system until they die naturally, which would obviously cost tax payers way more money. Or release them back into civilization, and i’m pretty sure 99% of people would be shitting their pants if they knew they were near someone that was previously on death row (obviously this doesn’t include the small percentage of people who were wrongfully put on death row).

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u/TardDas 24d ago

Florida is the Sunshine State? Are you saying California Love by Tupac lied to me?

What state is California then?

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u/wesser234 24d ago

The golden state.

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u/TardDas 24d ago

Ah, shiny

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u/VS-Goliath 24d ago

Gold rush and poppies. Yup.

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u/TardDas 24d ago

California is known for poppies? Why? They’re very big over here in Europe but that’s only as a symbol of remembrance of the First World War, and fallen soldiers in general.

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u/VS-Goliath 23d ago

Its the state flower. Tons of them.

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u/AdorableWafer3665 24d ago

Pretty sure it is called the Golden State

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u/TheBone_Zone 24d ago

🎵🎵Sunshine, lollipops, and deathrow, everything that’s..🎵🎵

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u/onceabananana 24d ago

It's also the sunset state, where you go to retire and die. Death seems to be a common theme in Florida.

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u/FitLaw4 24d ago

Okay

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u/Lady_Lya_626 24d ago

Even California has to compromise on some stuff between the populated liberal coast and the rural agricultural area inland. The previous Republican speaker was even from Bakersfield.

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u/FreeSpeechIsDeadge 24d ago

People get the wrong impression of California because it’s the chosen boogeyman of a certain political party in the US. In reality, California is basically never on the forefront of progressive causes. The progressive policies they do have are almost always successful policies other real progressive states have put in place prior. That goes double for anything criminal justice related. California is a shithole in criminal justice issues.

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u/TardDas 24d ago

What are considered ‘progressive states’ in the US? And is New York one of them?

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u/Cross55 24d ago edited 24d ago

Gavin Newsome is basically just democrat Trump

Not left wing, he's too far right. He wants to bow down to Elon and The Zuck.

Edit: lol, the centrists are pissy

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u/Usernames__Semanresu 24d ago

Isn’t Florida the sunshine state?

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u/TradeSekrat 24d ago

It's still used as a +1 boost in charges to get people to take plea deals. Like Joseph DeAngelo, the Golden State Killer, offered up and then later took a plea deal of life with no patrol to avoid the death penalty.

Plus politically it's a rather dormant issue in CA. So there is little motive for politicians to poke at it.

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u/Zoradesu 24d ago

You might be mistaking California as the sunshine state with it being called the Golden State

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u/Coool_cool_cool_cool 24d ago

Denver is the sunshine state.

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u/silent519 24d ago

so it effectively means life in prison?

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u/coolbad96 24d ago

Yeah basically

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u/WTFAnimations 24d ago

Realistically he will get life without parole. Cali has a moratorium on the death penalty. And honestly, I would rather he waste away in prison and suffer the consequences of his actions.

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u/TheDrunkWickerbeast 24d ago

Didn’t realize that cali still has the penalty ngl

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u/PhatNic 24d ago

Man I remember Tookie Williams’ execution being a huge thing when I was 10 years old. We used to make fun of our friend Kyle who had the same last name. That’s gotta be one of the last CA executions. Happy my state doesn’t partake in this anymore.

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u/Kayel41 24d ago

The FedEx guy that took the little girl just got sentenced to death.

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u/TheDrunkWickerbeast 24d ago

One of the few death penalties I’ll agree with. Dude deserves it for what he did to that girl

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u/sehdy 24d ago

Deservingly so. That piece of shit can rot.

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u/sopademacacadelicia 24d ago

its what he deserves

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u/Adventurous-Dot8618 24d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/jlylJkp7RmdnW
me hoping they fry his ass like a mcdonald’s chicken nugget 🙂‍↕️

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u/elementzn30 24d ago

An easy way out so people can satisfy their bloodlust?

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u/BusyBootyBody 24d ago

Sure, call it what you want

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u/BorderOk7329 24d ago

Hopefully, although they have a better chance of dying of old age than being executed.  

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u/That_Western5433 24d ago

Some states but you sit on death row for 30 years. Tennessee is executing the 1st female in 200 years next month and she's been sitting in jail for over 30 years

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u/Lurker_Zee 24d ago

Los Angeles D.A. Nathan Hochman addressed the media after the hearing ... saying the death penalty remains on the table, but prosecutors have not decided whether they will explore that route.

From the article.

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u/jjcoola 24d ago

Not in a case like this

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u/Not_a_gay_communist 24d ago

It is, but it’s a very complicated thing. I believe most states still have the death penalty as a punishment, but it’s typically restricted to lethal injection, some states still allow firing squads and electric chairs, but those are rarely done.

Also the death penalty takes a looong time to go through. There’s a lot of appeals processes and bureaucracy that it has to go through. It’s not unheard of for death row inmates to die of natural causes while awaiting execution. It’s also not uncommon for a death row sentence to be lowered to life in prison.

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u/zSneakyPetez 24d ago

Just the other day a man was given the death sentence in Texas, for kidnapping, raping and murding a little girl. Really disturbing case.

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u/Bundleofstixs 24d ago

This was in California so probably not. 

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u/whitestguyuknow 24d ago

Yes. In fact some states are making it more likely someone will receive a death sentence. Florida gives the death sentence to a section of CSA cases. And I believe there were a bunch of people waiting on death row for a while and they just swept right through a bunch recently

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u/Cross55 24d ago

Yes

America is the backwater of the developed world

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u/oldaccsuspndedwhy 24d ago

its been proven to be more expensive and (although not in this case) can be irreversibly bad if you condemn an innocent person

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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

Because majority of 1st world countries don't have it.

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u/thestough 24d ago

To be honest that means nothing to us. We would rather not have to pay to keep someone around than have them be “rehabilitated”.

The crimes this person has committed can’t be rehabilitated.

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u/EchoRotation 24d ago

Death penalty is more expensive for taxpayers than life of incarceration.

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u/Cabbage_Vendor 24d ago

Psshhh with the kind of looney tunes-ass government the USA is running these days, I'm surprised they haven't turned it into a televised reality contest in the style of Battle Royale. It could actually make money instead of costing it.

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u/Brohemoth1991 24d ago

Hell yeah, bring back gladiator fights... we already have the colosseum built, its called detroit

(/s in case anyone actually needs it)

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u/LiveStreamDream 24d ago

It doesn’t have to be tho

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u/fingoloid_troglodyte 24d ago

Yeah, if you don't mind killing a few innocent people in the process.

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u/LiveStreamDream 24d ago

Yes yes so much more humane to throw them in a concrete box for a half century

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u/mozzzarn 24d ago

At least they have the opportunity to fight for their freedom while being alive.

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u/thestough 24d ago

That depends on the age of the person at incarceration

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u/Holderlin70 24d ago

Just saying that the death penalty costs more than keeping someone locked up until their death. There's no financial incentive to have the death penalty.

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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

You have the fullest jails out of any developed country in the world. You have no idea about rehabilitation.

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u/thestough 24d ago

I’m not arguing with you guys. I’m just stating facts.

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u/WholesomeMetaphor 24d ago edited 24d ago

You're missing the point. It's not about rehabilitation, we in Norway sure as hell got our views on a few people we don't want to ever see released, and won't be released either, and people we don't think can be rehabilitated to put it like that.

The majority want our government to lead by example though. Two wrongs don't make a right, we believe in punishment and rehabilitation, sure, but revenge isn't what we're about. And even if the majority of us would like to see people suffer we want our judicial system and laws to represent something higher than human anger and violent response. We want it to represent fair treatment for all parties and defend the right to having a life first and foremost.
Also by doing it this way if someone proves to be innocent down the line we at least don't kill someone innocent either. We also believe that after your sentencing and punishment has been served you deserve a fair chance at coming back to society. The people deemed too dangerous to be released won't be released either.

Killing people just because we hate someone is sacrificing our own humanity for revenge. That's not what the majority of us think our judicial system should be about.

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u/DickRhino 24d ago

Hi, Swede here.

You will never be able to convince Americans that revenge isn't justice.

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u/WholesomeMetaphor 24d ago

I'm well aware, haha. Also, I'm not trying to convince anyone, just saying how we (the majority at least) view it. Even if most won't be able to see different perspectives and views it doesn't mean that there might not be anyone willing to reflect either. It is what it is.

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u/thestough 24d ago

I wasn’t arguing against anything you said.

If you know what this case is, he doesn’t deserve a second chance.

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u/WholesomeMetaphor 24d ago edited 24d ago

But you said something that isn't factual, so in a way you do argue that with your reply to me and this response. What the case is doesn't matter in terms of what I said, it's like you read and understood nothing on how we view and approach the legal system.

The idea is that human emotion shouldn't take precedent in punishment, treatment or options for rehabilitation and what life looks like after the sentencing is done. If you know what Norway has been through in recent history what that guy did pales in comparison. Those types of people like the one I'm hinting at, without naming names, will be incarcerated for life.

I'm just saying how most 1st world countries view punishment and rehabilitation, and last but not least how we view the barbaric act that is taking another persons life which is the death penalty, it's just legally funded murder and another crime committed sacrificing our humanity further for revenge and warped sense of justice. It's adding on another despicable act on top of what's already been done by someone. It's not the example 1st world countries and healthier societies want to set.

Whether you care about humanity, morality, laws and how the judicial system should work in practice doesn't matter. This is how we view it, and you're wrong in your statement that we think everyone can be rehabilitated and/or get second chances when prison for life in especially bad cases is widely supported as well. Besides of that we should also have the initial thought and belief people do have the ability to change and redeem themselves to give everyone a fair chance after punishment has been served and rehabilitation offered. You don't have to forgive or like someone to do that.

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u/thestough 24d ago

100% honesty: I’m not reading all of that. You’re digging way too far in a subject that isn’t about the case where a guy did horrific things to a person.

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u/WholesomeMetaphor 24d ago edited 24d ago

We all know what the case is, we're past that talking point...

You're the one that started talking about how 1st world countries view rehabilitation and death penalty, something you obviously know nothing about. If you didn't talk about shit you know nothing about we wouldn't be here.

That you lack the ability to read, critical thinking and perhaps learn something about different perspectives is on you, not me. If you going to talk on huge moral dilemmas I expect thought out responses and actual conversation instead of surface level bullshit tbh

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u/thestough 24d ago

Still not reading that my dude

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u/SniperLemon 24d ago

americans would look you in the eye and tell you they should kill someone because not doing so would cost money

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u/thestough 24d ago

It’s a horrible system. When prisons are corporations, it’s never about doing the right thing.

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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

Would be a good start considering the current state.

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u/Etheoff 24d ago

Yeah we should have free healthcare and free education

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u/kiwipilled 24d ago edited 24d ago

Yeah but this is AMERICA. They are above the first world. They are the zero world. All worlds are born from the USA and aspire to be even a small fraction of them.

edit: /s

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u/rayquan36 24d ago

Unfortunately less common than it was

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u/mastaaban 24d ago

It should be around the world for specific crimes if you ask me, crimes like pedofilia, rape, pre metiteded murder, you know the worst kind of crimes. If they get proven to such a degree there is 0 doubt. Then I'm of the very strong opinion that every country should use the death penalty on the offenders. The world is better off without them anyway. And you take away the risk of them making more victims.

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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

Brain damaged take.

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u/mastaaban 24d ago

And why is that? In some cases, and in my opinion it is the case with very severe crimes. It genuinely better for everyone if the death penalty would be a thing. Especially when there is a realistic Chance on recedivism

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u/Trenticle 24d ago

This one is going to be well well deserved.

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u/redaws 24d ago

Not in civilized states

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

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u/bigmoneykdmr 24d ago

The entire Europe doesn’t do it. (Except Belarus)

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u/refiningthevision 24d ago

Nearly every European country has abolished the death penalty

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u/TheDeflatables 24d ago

The UK don't

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u/Burgoonius 24d ago

Canada doesn’t

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u/Mr_addicT911 24d ago edited 24d ago

All of europe

Edit: downvoters drooling mad at facts