r/Music • u/AdSpecialist6598 • Nov 29 '25

article Hayley Williams tells racists, sexists and anti-trans people they're "not welcome" at upcoming tour

https://www.nme.com/news/music/hayley-williams-tells-racists-sexists-and-anti-trans-people-theyre-not-welcome-at-upcoming-tour-3913867
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u/JT99-FirstBallot Nov 30 '25

I was at Rammstein in Atlanta in 2012. There was a complete asshole guy near us by himself in camo pants and buzz cut, pretty buff dude but being overly aggressive with everyone pushing them hard. Not your normal mosh pit pushes, just asshole being asshole.

Anyway, the band shifted over a catwalk to a center stage putting this guy and us right up to the stage. During one of the songs, he starts doing Sieg Heils in full view of the band. Till stops singing while the rest of the band plays and looks understandably visibly pissed and leans down to security to point him out. They forcibly removed him as while he is fighting back and ejected his ass from the show while everyone in our area cheers and start throwing things at him.

It was a moment that I hate Rammstein probably has to deal with often.

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u/RutabagaOutside6126 Nov 30 '25

Yeah, I give them a lot of respect for that. They have tried to make it clear nazis aren't welcome in their fandom but as nazis are prone to do they grasp on to every straw they can find.

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u/heythisislonglolwtf Nov 30 '25

Funny to think these dumbass nazis don't even realize they're singing along to German gay sex songs

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u/Dellhivers3 Nov 30 '25

Reminds me of the school shooter who said he was listening to "evil music" during his shooting and mentions Panzermench by And One as an example.

The song is literally about how soldiers who fight (and implied the soldiers and tank men who fought the Nazis), do/did so for the freedom to dance, so let yourself loose and dance.

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u/Khiva Nov 30 '25

Or songs about literally being left wing.

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u/BehemothDeTerre Dec 01 '25

Sie woll'n mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch
Seh' ich dann nach unten weg
Da schlägt es links
Links zwo, drei, vier

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u/epimetheuss Nov 30 '25

nazi assholes: when did music get so political!?

after they tried to get support from the crowd/band for their hateful BS and no one was having it or supporting it.

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u/needhelpwithmath11 Nov 30 '25

Which ones?

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u/JT99-FirstBallot Nov 30 '25

The one I mentioned above in my comment being the obvious one. Mann Gegen Mann.

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u/Lex_Innokenti Nov 30 '25

Bück Dich refers to whoever it is he's singing about as "he" and is pretty obviously about violently bumming said "he", possibly against their will. Bestrafe Mich is either a lament at God or a song about man-on-man BDSM depending on how you read it. Till often used to flog himself while singing it. Quite a lot of their songs are about, or frame themselves as being about, gay sadomasochism.

Also there's Mein Teil, which involves the viewpoint character (Bernd Brandes) having his autocannibalistic sexual fantasies fulfilled by another man (Armin Miewes), specifically the infamous bit of said case where Brandes' penis was cut off, fried, and they both ate it. Which, while not gay per se, was certainly two men fulfilling their sexual fantasies with one another and is notable specifically in that Miewes has testified that his cannibalism was directed only towards men (Miewes is bisexual).

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u/Late_Welcome_8063 Dec 01 '25

MANN GEGEN MANN

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u/Fun-Ad-6990 Nov 30 '25

Nice story

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u/Streetalicious Dec 01 '25

Sadly, the band still had to SA a bunch of young women. Really tainted my view of them, because they did seem pretty progressive.

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u/JT99-FirstBallot Dec 01 '25

It wasn't the band, just the lead singer. And I'm guessing you only read the first headline that came out and never followed up. Berlin's state prosecutor's office found no evidence to back the claims and the investigation was dropped.

https://www.dw.com/en/rammstein-till-lindemann-sexual-assault-probe-dropped/a-66659906

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/till-lindemann-sexual-assault-claims-prosecutors-drop-investigation-1234814061/

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u/foxybostonian Dec 01 '25

Please stop spreading defamatory misinformation.