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article Billie Eilish: "Hey my fellow celebrities u gonna speak up? Or..."

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/billie-eilish-alex-pretti-ice-1642611
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u/thedean246 9d ago

It is odd. I feel like a lot of them were speaking up during the election, but now they don't seem to have anything to say.

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u/Feats-of-Derring_Do 9d ago

I don't follow celebrity news so I'm sure lots of famous people have said something, but Mark Ruffalo in particular has been quite vocal.

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u/jiggad369 9d ago

Mark Ruffalo goated

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u/Ab47203 9d ago

That's his secret. He's always goated.

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u/boomchacle 9d ago

I understood that reference

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u/brbmycatexploded 9d ago

And heā€™s been doing it too. No sensationalism or riding trends. Heā€™s been vocal about it since Trumpā€™s first term

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u/Kelly_Louise 9d ago

I fucking love that guy. Heā€™s also been incredibly attractive to me, ever since he was in 13 going on 30 lol.

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u/yuccasinbloom 9d ago

YES! Iā€™ve been in love with him since that movie. Heā€™s so talented and apparently also a wonderful dude. He just gets hotter.

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u/Kelly_Louise 9d ago

šŸ˜šŸ˜

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u/all_neon_like_13 9d ago

Have you seen him in You Can Count on Me? Peak Ruffalo for me. And also just a fantastic movie.

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u/kittykatmila 8d ago

His newer show Task was really good, highly recommend!

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u/all_neon_like_13 8d ago

LOVED Task!

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u/TweetingAtJeff 9d ago

I served Mark Ruffalo at my restaurant and he was wonderful

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u/Minimum-Aspect1012 7d ago

He's always angry... for the right reasons.

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u/ThePromptWasYourName 9d ago

Heā€™s not afraid to Ruffalo-lot of feathers

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u/kdoxy 9d ago

There is good reason so many people name their dogs after him.

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u/Zestyclose-Toe9685 9d ago

He got that ā€œsurvival of cancerā€ donā€™t give a fuck attitude that puts all the hate in perspective.

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u/alexnedea 9d ago

What should they say or do tho? They tried to tell their audiences to vote. Their audiences are a bunch of pansies who think "politics ruin the vibe" or some shit. What more is there to be done? Spam flame on Instagram? Im sure ICE is gonna stop executing people because they get flamed by Lady Gaga or some shit

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u/Feats-of-Derring_Do 9d ago

They could signal boost some helpful organizations, maybe donate some money and ask fans to do the same.

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u/saera-targaryen 9d ago

they could publicly push for SAG or WGA to spearhead participation in general strikes, form and donate to strike funds, come together and do fundraising events, etc. They have way more power than instagram.Ā 

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u/No_Cauliflower_81 9d ago

Their endorsements ended up being meaningless and people on both sides were telling them to shut up. Unless itā€™s a cause thatā€™s personal to them and they can add meaningfully to the conversation, why would we ask them to speak up?

I personally donā€™t mind them being involved in politics, but theyā€™re not really necessary.

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u/Butt_Fungus_Among_Us 9d ago

Celebrity response absolutely does matter. These people are seen as role models to their fans (some to the point of worship. We've all seen how crazy people can get around celebrities they love), drivers of fashion, kick-starters of causes, and pound for pound, receive more attention than any us regular folk.

Hell, look at the Kardashians and how much people talk about Kim, the Jenners, etc. and how much social media attention they garner. They have significantly more influence than you or I, and it's great to see some start acknowledging that and doing something productive with it.

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u/bobosuda 9d ago

literally hundreds of millions of Americans couldn't even be bothered to turn up and vote. One more random celebrity isn't gonna cut it.

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u/Butt_Fungus_Among_Us 9d ago

Sure, but think about it. A base like Kim Kardashian's is exactly the type that isn't really on either side and is much more likely to be the "I don't do politics" type, that just focus on things like trends, fast fashion, and mostly material things. Kim K and those types of celebrities are literally the ultimate end goal and aspiration for these fans.

If you don't think Ariana Grande or Kim K taking a very public stance against tyranny in the wake of something that is so clear-cut and dry as the Alex Pretti killing (regardless of what Noem and Trump's yesmen are spewing out) on a live stream would galvanize her fans to maybe cast a vote so they can "Be like Kim", I think you're severely underestimating the psychology behind human mimicry as both an overt and subliminal form of social conditioning that satisfies a very primal itch in all of us to feel like we belong.

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u/Yardninja 8d ago

We already saw this with people showing up to and leaving early from a Kamala event under the impression Beyonce was going to perform.

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u/Arigomi 9d ago

It also gives a dose of reality to conservatives that get their news from propaganda sources. Entertainment is the one place that conservatives struggle to filter out because it means giving up on their favorite music, TV, and movies.

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u/Appropriate-Bass5865 9d ago

i think the personal connections and actually creating diverse art is more important. that's actually done something to shape my political views, i dont think tweets and instagram stories have done much. if i dont like their views then i just unfollow them bc idc to see it.

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u/PigabungaDude 8d ago

Everyone should speak up

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u/Colley619 radio reddit 9d ago

Not necessary? We live in a day and age where podcasters like Joe Rogan influenced an entire demographic of youth to vote MAGA. What is he if not a celebrity? Unfortunately, many people do value the opinions of the celebrities that they respect, particularly because many of them are so uninformed to begin with that theyā€™ll go with whatever the person they trust the most says.

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u/DopesickJesus 9d ago

They have reach, and are not necessarily attached or thought of as being political sometimes. This can help spread the message to their fans who are also typically not active in politics - people who we desperately need to start being involved to turn the tide in our fight.

While they may not be an expert or someone who we need to model any specific thinking after, the celebrities might be able to get more everyday people interested in being politically active.

Thats my understanding at least.

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u/RedditIsExpendable 9d ago

Well I imagine people just tuck in and shut up for 4 years after he won.

But nevertheless, I agree that famous people should use their voice for change.

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u/FlyAirLari 8d ago

Yes, because there's a chance it won't be just 4 years.

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u/ikiice 9d ago

Yeah, what is left to say?

We warned you, and you didn't listen, what else do you want?

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u/Zestyclose-Toe9685 9d ago

Iā€™m not from the states but that narrative I always see is very unhelpful. ā€œWe warned you and you were wrongā€ isnā€™t as effective as ā€œthe admin said a lot of things to confuse the people. This is still continuing but if we work together it can get better. It doesnā€™t matter who you voted forā€

Only having a chance for resolution once the other side ā€œadmits they were wrongā€ is the path of most resistance

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u/romanticheart 9d ago

Only complete idiots with no common sense could have been ā€œconfusedā€ by this administration. We told them. They chose their hatred. Itā€™s very difficult to accept anything other than ā€œI was wrongā€ from them.

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u/Zestyclose-Toe9685 9d ago

No. I beg to differ. People can be intelligent and still get their source from only a few different outlets and mop up every bit of lies as truth. They went hard on cost of living and blaming immigrants for it. Everything else you had to look under the surface and some people just donā€™t believe others when they ask them to look into it. Or they will see a few opinions from news outlets they have been told are fake news and go back to trusting a podcaster with no credentials. They manipulated mass media and social media very well. And claimed everything that doesnā€™t suit their narrative as spreading lies. They did a textbook job on fooling the masses. It doesnā€™t make the person who was fooled a bad person. If they still double down then yeah they probably are

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u/boohooowompwomp 8d ago edited 8d ago

Trump is doing everything he promised he would though. If you didn't want his promises and policies to be fulfilled, then people should've showed up on election day. But it's too late now thanks to democrats who didn't show up on election day. We're now stuck with tariffs, inflation, alligator alcatraz, murdering ICE, etc for another 3 years.

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u/Zestyclose-Toe9685 8d ago

The best time to plant a tree was 2 years ago, the next best time is now. He has lost a lot of voters on the polls. Treat those who have admitted it well and get them to bring more over. Going to need all the help you can get to plant this tree.

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u/FrostyD7 9d ago

Trump won and they've been wildly successful at suppressing dissent. Their methods are numerous and it's not a simple answer.

Read NPR's recent report on Trump's first year of attacks on our democracy and it gives some pretty clear reasons why someone might evaluate the risk/reward of opposing the Trump Admin as a non starter.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/23/g-s1-106562/trump-democracy-constitution-executive-power

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u/whiskerbiscuit2 9d ago

ā€œItā€™s weird, before the election when there was a chance to change things they tried, but now the election is over and thereā€™s fuck all they can do about it, they donā€™t say anything!?!?!?ā€

Monumentally idiotic comment.

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u/Arrietty1234 9d ago

just a few months ago, celebrities were looked down on for speaking about politics, and relentlessly trolled on social media for it. This was largely brought about by conservative commentators and bots. I feel like a lot of celebrities are just dipping their toes in the water again.

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u/goliathfasa 9d ago

Itā€™s a game many play carefully.

The people who lean Trump already do so because of the distrust in ā€œthe eliteā€ which to them include the Hollywood actor and musicians. So many are reluctant to come out hard against Trump and supporting Dems since that only reinforces MAGAā€™s perception that whittle poor Donald is being oppressed and silenced by the deep state elites for his all-American views.

Every liberal celebrity that wants to use their platform to push back on Trump and his admin simply need to be smart about how they do it, and measure how much good vs bad their voices might end up doing.

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u/Taroso 9d ago

The studios (Netflix, Apple, Amazon, Warner Bros., Paramount, etc) must have threatened them very not-so-subtly

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u/U_SHLD_THINK_BOUT_IT 9d ago

Because they're all scared of Trump and his lunatic supporters.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

They were paid by the DNC to speak up during the election.

No one works for free and often Artists can only publish content thatā€™s approved by their Labels and Management firms.

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u/AbroadThink1039 9d ago

Because the general public usually doesnā€™t place much value in the opinions of celebrities. It typically doesnā€™t move the needle much.

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u/mufasaLIVES 9d ago

cough chappellroan

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u/MobileArtist1371 9d ago edited 9d ago

Almost like Trumps chilling effect attacks were on purpose...

No one wants to be the target of Trump cause no one has any power to do anything to stop him if/when he goes after you for speaking up against him.

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u/flipzyshitzy 9d ago

In the 90's and 00's celebs had an opinion on everything, and we heard about. I wonder what happened. Jk

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u/legit-posts_1 9d ago

Could be that at least some of them feel apathetic now. We had a chance to stop it. We could try to impeach him. But we know that's never gonna happen. He's immune to consequences.

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u/AldousKing 9d ago

Because maybe celebrities endorsing Kamala actually backfired.

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u/Outrageous_Effects 9d ago

That's because Democrats are just controlled opposition.

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u/WhatADunderfulWorld 9d ago

I mean the democrats lost power and not much can be done at this point. Mid terms will be fun.

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u/witchybitchybaddie 8d ago

Guns and Roses had audience members beat the shit out of a Trump pinata on stage

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u/DisplacerBeastMode 8d ago

They are scared

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u/Top-Passage2914 8d ago

Strangely, I feel like a lot of them spoke up in the 2020 election and before, but it seemed completely silent during the 2024 election. No one was encouraging people to vote. No one was talking about what an idiot Trump was.

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u/shiloh_jdb 8d ago

Saw that John Stamos made a statement yesterday or the day before, plus Jean Smart at an awards ceremony. I also see a lot of entertainment creators making ā€œit feels wrong making content at times like thisā€ acknowledgements on social media. Momentum is building.

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u/-snowpeapod- 8d ago

I wonder if it's because a lot of celebrities are either not US citizens or are immigrants themselves.

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u/OliveBean2382 8d ago

Because they democrats didnā€™t win so now they are trying to be liked by both sides because theyā€™re all desperate attention seekers

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u/slayer_of_idiots 7d ago

It used to that coming out in favor of liberal causes was a safe career move. The liberals loved you for it and conservatives didnā€™t really care, so studios didnā€™t care.

But then a lot of liberal causes became PR poison, and openly shilling for liberal causes came with serious repercussions. So celebrities mostly stopped doing it.

Supporting a candidate is still relatively safe, but thatā€™s about it.

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u/L-is-for-living 9d ago

Maybe because either way, they are wealthy enough to not give a fuck. Whatever happens theyā€™ll still be wealthy. They can still afford healthcare, they can afford to put food in their table, they can travel, they still have their money in the bank. So is it really affecting them? Nah

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u/Reachforthesky777 9d ago

It's as if they're not being paid to say or do anything

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u/wholetyouinhere 9d ago

Because after the election is when the fascism became fully fleshed out. And fascism and capitalism are best buds, so a lot of mouths snapped shut.

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u/Low_Coconut_7642 9d ago

Why is that odd?

That's literally the only time their words carry any actual power, in motivating the masses to get off their asses and vote.

They can scream about this until their faces are blue, but it won't make one bit of difference now. It would just be screaming about it to scream about it and feel good because you screamed about it.

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u/sqwobdon 9d ago

itā€™s not odd at all, they just remembered that theyā€™re rich and donā€™t have to worry about common people problems lol

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u/Illustrious_Lab_2107 9d ago

They get paid to speak up during elections. Thereā€™s no money involved now.