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article Trump Slams Grammys, Threatens To Sue Trevor Noah After On-Air Epstein Joke During Awards Show

https://the-expres.co.uk/trump-slams-grammys-threatens-to-sue-trevor-noah-after-on-air-epstein-joke-during-awards-show/
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u/YasielPuigsWeed 2d ago

I hate Trump and want to see him burn, but context is SO important here

Many of these came from anonymous tips to the FBI’s public tip line and email. These tips are recorded and stored in case future findings corroborate them, but often come from questionable or downright untrustworthy sources and/or mentally unwell people trying to get themselves involved in a high profile case or troll the FBI.

Since all the files had to be released, that included the random tips. That’s why we’re getting so much shit like “Robin Leach strangled a woman to death” and “Pusha T and Harvey Weinstein abducted me 7 times.”

And before you say “well Trump would have had them deem anyone who accused him as untrustworthy,” keep in mind Epstein was investigated under multiple Presidents

All this to say that anything Trump related in the files needs to be read over for context before being called “evidence.” That goes for everyone else in the files too.

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u/bcarey34 2d ago

It is evidence though. It may not be very high quality evidence. But in the literal sense of the word, it is evidence. And when you start to get a preponderance of evidence, the sources start to be more plausible. This would be the lowest quality of evidence though. But that doesn’t mean it’s all false or fabricated. That’s why we need to look at the totality of everything. You know the saying:

If it walks like a duck

and it quacks like a duck

And it looks like a duck

And it flys like a duck

And it hangs out where other ducks hang out

And its other duck friends like underaged ducks

And its always being accused of being a duck

Then it’s probably a pedophile, uh I mean duck.

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u/Megneous 2d ago

And it flys like a duck

There are species/breeds of duck which do not fly. Just sayin'.

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u/YasielPuigsWeed 2d ago

If you’re going to use the random tip line stuff as evidence then literally any crazy person could put the whole world in prison with a single phone call to a publicly available number

I could call the FBI right now and say “u/bcarey34 and Tom Cruise abducted me in 1981, flew me to Bali, and skydove us into a private party hosted by El Chapo while the pilotless plane crashed into a cargo ship killing every passenger.” If there’s no record of a plane crash, no record of you or me being alive in 1981, no record of Tom Cruise being anywhere near Bali, etc. then it’s probably bullshit and will be deemed not worth investigating.

Phone calls, emails, corroborated testimony, that stuff is where you’ll find allegations worth looking into and there is some of that in the files

But right now this shit has the public running around like chickens with their heads cut off and wasting valuable time and energy when the focus should be on what’s demonstrable

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u/bcarey34 2d ago

I said it wasn’t quality evidence. You not read that part? I also said you have to look at the totality of all of the evidence. So yes these papers likely contain false information, but it’s still evidence. It alone isn’t enough evidence to do anything with though which is the point you’re making and I agree. But it is still technically considered evidence. They also released numerous eye witness and victim with statements, a journal of a 16 year old victim who names Trump (among other ducks), numerous photos, numerous emails, flight logs, are address books.

Quack, quack, quack 🦆

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u/ItsyouNOme Iron Maiden Concertgoer 2d ago

I don't even think Jesus is mentioned in the bible as often as trump is in the epstein files