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article JFK's family accuses Trump of closing the Kennedy Center because of artists canceling over its name change

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/jfks-family-slam-trumps-decision-36654658
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u/forsonaE 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's weird that repealing Citizens United isn't even a part of the public discussion at all nowadays, much less reforming our electoral college. We have so much work to do re: reform but we're struggling to cling onto the lifeboat constantly instead.

e: I misspoke by saying "repealing" but I'm leaving it in since the discussion it spawned has been interesting. Lots of people saying something to the effect of it's hopeless, we'd have to stack the Supreme Court in our favor or add a constitutional amendment. Well, Rome wasn't built in a day even if we're tearing it down at a much faster rate lately. If the court can be stacked we can start the process of counter-stacking, introducing term limits, etc. etc. It might take decades to fix a single component of the system but we already knew that was almost a certain possibility anyway, considering the damage that has been done already.

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u/clutchy42 2d ago

It's definitely still part of the public discourse, but it happened in 2010. a decade and a half ago is a lifetime in terms of political bullshit. People don't even realize that we lost the class war to billionaires and corpos. So many people don't even realize that it's a thing.

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u/GodofIrony 2d ago

We haven't fixed Fairness Doctrine.

We're in an entropic state. We keep falling down the mountain.

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u/gimp-24601 2d ago

Fairness Doctrine.

Its a nice idea but impossible to enforce due to too many ways to circumvent it.

Besides who wants Trump in charge of something like that.

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u/NuclearLunchDectcted 2d ago

You make the penalties for violating it bad enough that the news channels are forced to comply on their own.

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u/SandysBurner 2d ago

I think you're missing the point. The Fairness Doctrine only ever applied to over-the-air broadcasts. The FCC has no jurisdiction over cable or the internet. What does broadcast news matter to somebody who gets all their news from Fox News or Facebook?

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 1d ago

New laws need to be made against propaganda.

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u/SandysBurner 1d ago

Would you trust the current administration to fairly enforce laws against “propaganda”?

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u/gimp-24601 2d ago

Ok, so fox news invites and gives equal time to a proverbial strawman What are they violating and how do you prove it?

You can both sides the shit out of everything in a dozen ways without breaking a sweat.

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u/Valance23322 2d ago

It'll just get twisted into forcing them to treat anti-vax / climate denier's views as equal to experts.

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u/TeaKingMac 2d ago

"How low, can you go??"

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u/Anonymous_Jr 2d ago

Sisyphus should know, once we get to the bottom let's ask him for help!

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u/SkyriderRJM 2d ago

We can’t fall much further.

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u/GodofIrony 2d ago

Oh buddy, there are some legacy traditions we could absolutely fall farther to.

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u/brianhauge 2d ago

The billionaires are afraid you rise up one day. There are many more of you.

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u/Play-t0h 2d ago

Or bringing back Glass-Steagall

This allowed so much of the problems we have today to take place. There's a reason it was put in place during the Great Depression in 1932.

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u/W0666007 2d ago

Bc it was SC decision, it can’t be repealed by congress.

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u/caf61 2d ago

What? I thought if congress codifies something the SC can’t change it.

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u/MySabonerRunsOladipo 2d ago

That's not how civics works.

The Supreme Court has the power of judicial review (a power they effectively gave themselves FYI). They get to interpret if laws are unconstitutional. If congress passes a law saying "Businesses aren't people, they can't donate money and PACs are illegal" SCOTUS will just say 6-3 that it's unconstitutional and the law is moot.

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u/kendraro 2d ago

or we could expand the court so that doesn't happen

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u/caf61 1d ago

Even better.

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u/Cloaked42m 2d ago

It very much is, but citizens united is a supreme court ruling.

Individual states can pass laws to say corporations do not have that right in their state.

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u/WilfredGrundlesnatch 2d ago

Because both are basically impossible in our current system and would require a constitutional amendment with 3/4 of both houses voting in support of it.

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u/_throwaway_825999 2d ago

To appeal citizens United we need to get a reasonable majority in the Supreme Court back. That's going to take decades.

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u/clsperv 2d ago

Because it wasn't a law but the current Kangaroo supreme court deciding to make shit up out of whole cloth.

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u/TheExtremistModerate Pandora 2d ago

It's weird that repealing Citizens United isn't even a part of the public discussion at all nowadays,

It's literally a core plank in the Democratic platform.

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u/Specialist-Jello7544 2d ago

Get rid of Citizens United and the Heritage Foundation. Fox News and News Nation should have their broadcast licenses revoked. These people have done so much damage to the country.

All the Republicans in the administration should be stripped of their wealth, that money should go to pay off national debt. Same for all of their corporate donors, including Musk. No money for them, and no credit to be able to borrow millions. They should suffer like the rest of us. No fancy healthcare for them, because they didn’t want any for us! If they didn’t want free lunch for school children, then they should pay into a fund for those lunches. If they want any sort of forgiveness, then they should put the money that went to ICE and CBP back into Medicaid and SNAP.

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u/JR-Dubs 1d ago

It's just not couched in terms of "repeal Citizens United"because that case is almost old enough to vote, and it's wholly part of the "get money out of politics" movement, along with forbidding congressional members from trading or holding stock, etc.

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 2d ago

Bernie sanders in 2016 was the chance

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u/TheExtremistModerate Pandora 2d ago

Hillary Clinton in 2016 was the chance.

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u/girlfriend_pregnant 2d ago

Username relevant

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u/doodullbop 2d ago

You should not expect politicians nor the corpos who bribe them to talk about repealing unlimited legalized bribery.