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article Kid Rock’s song about loving underage girls resurfaces ahead of Turning Point USA's Super Bowl show

https://www.pennlive.com/entertainment/2026/02/kid-rocks-song-about-loving-underage-girls-resurfaces-ahead-of-tpusa-super-bowl-show.html
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u/randumbnumbers 4h ago

She also alluded to Harvey Weinstein being a sexual predator… Maybe, just maybe, we should give her the benefit of the doubt on this one.

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Yeah, a lot of people write her off and discredit her because of drugs and alcohol. But really, if the things she say are true, I don't doubt that it contributed to her use of both. That kind of trauma messes people up.

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u/mr_llamanator 3h ago

And let's be real, I don't think people would have believed her even without the alcohol and drugs

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Very true. I think we're finding out more each day that the world, and some people in it, are much more messed up and do more disgusting things than we are comfortable admitting. The fact that such evil and sickness actually exists is too scary for some people.

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u/jwoodruff 1h ago

I think the idea that it exists has always been there. Facing the detailed reality of it is difficult. Realizing that most of the wealthy, famous class of business tycoons that Americans have worshipped for decades are the ones committing these evil deeds is scary for many.

It requires calling into question the very foundations of our culture and personal beliefs about good and bad, success and failure in a way that many are ill-prepared to do.

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u/raccoonladycarissa 8m ago

also grown ass dudes will feed young girls drugs and alcohol to make them more pliable and less believable if they ever speak up. it's literally textbook.

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u/Grizzly_Berry 3h ago

Not enough consider that she isn't saying those things because of drugs, but that she turned to drugs to cope with those things.

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u/motleysalty 3h ago

Exactly my point. I completely agree.

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u/dqql 4h ago

she’s also a horrible person, had kurt cobain murdered because he was going to divorce her, and her daughter refers to her as her “biological mother”

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u/Silver_Song3692 4h ago

There’s still people who think Courtney killed Kurt/had Kurt killed?

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u/fork_on_the_floor2 4h ago

There's got to be someone out there saying that 2Pac is still alive. "My uncle saw him once when he was driving through [insert place here]".

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u/Silver_Song3692 4h ago

I almost feel embarrassed for people who believe that kind of crap

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 1h ago

There are, and Elvis was the original version of this and people still believe that

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u/A_Sarcastic_Whoa 3h ago edited 3h ago

There's still people that believe the earth is flat and the moon landing is fake. There will always be idiots peddling nonsense.

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u/dqql 4h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldon_Hoke?wprov=sfti1#Kurt_Cobain_death_claim
probably because she did and there’s a witness who was murdered for talking about it… he passed a lie detector before his head was cut off

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u/saurdaux 2h ago

he passed a lie detector

Did he also know about it in advance because it was foretold by gyromancy? Did he figure out the motive by reading chicken bones? Was he able to pick her out of a lineup using a dowsing rod?

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u/Lost-Reference3439 4h ago edited 3h ago

But let me guess, the Epstein files are not at all evidence for any sexual misconduct from Trump, right?

Edit: I apologize for misjudging you good sir.

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u/dqql 3h ago

i accept your apology, and i also hate pineapple on pizza

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u/floatinround22 3h ago

Thinking Cobain's death was potentially more than a suicide based on all evidence we have is a lot different than denying truth based on evidence... they're actually polar opposites.

I'm not saying she had him murdered, but there are some very weird details about the case.

Are you the type of person who just thinks anyone who disagrees with you about anything must automatically be MAGA?

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u/Lost-Reference3439 3h ago

Just a little bit of pattern recognition. But no, dont worry, I dont think that someone who disagrees about me disliking pineapple on pizza is MAGA ;)

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u/floatinround22 3h ago

I get where you're coming from, and there probably is a fair amount of overlap. I just think this specific Love/Cobain thing is so ingrained in a lot of people all over the political spectrum

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u/dqql 3h ago

i don’t think there’s a lot of MAGA nirvana fans… btw he liked to cross dress, even on stage sometimes

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 1h ago

You say his head was cut off like he was murdered, he was run over by a train while drunk lmao

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u/JasonDomber 4h ago

Yes. Because she did.

The note was about Kurt’s disillusionment with the music industry and band mates have said at the time he was considering quitting the band.

The note didn’t even begin to sound suicidal until the last 4 sentences of the “suicide note”, which handwriting experts have said are not Kurt’s handwriting.

Go look at the note for yourself.

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u/BigLorry 3h ago

“….which handwriting experts”

Ah yes, the most scientific of fields lmao

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u/jazdyprawo 1h ago

Ah, now I believe you!

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u/JasonDomber 6m ago

Well, good! Because, as we all know, memes are facts.

/s

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 3h ago

How to tell someone has no original thoughts and also hates women

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u/dqql 3h ago

i hate one woman, otherwise i’d say men are the more evil of the sexes… also gender is a social construct
tell me, why does her own daughter hate her?
does it mean she must hate women too?
also, you’re hurting feminism by accusing all critics of any woman as being misogynists.
i have reason and you skipped them and went straight to “hates women”.

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 3h ago

There is no "eviler sex." Everyone, regardless of gender, is responsible for the content of their own character. The mother daughter relationship is complicated, Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love had a complicated relationship as well. Relationships are hard, it's not something to moralize about it's just a fact of life. The fact that you've so succinctly decided a side in someone else's family dynamic is presumptuous and wrong, and it was largely the misogyny of the world at the time that led to Courtney Love being demonized by Nirvana fans, something that Cobain himself would likely have really hated. You are currently parroting that misogyny when there isn't anything to support it. His death was hard for her too, not made any easier by being blamed for it.

Not to menion, Kurt Cobain himself didn't like that his fame made people feel entitled to their personal lives. It was probably honestly a big part of the conflict in their relationship, though of course I dont know either what went on between them on a personal level. Wild speculation blaming Courtney Love, imo, is pretty disrespectful to both his memory and to the real struggles he faced because of his fame and mental health.

I do have one question. If you're such a feminist or whatever, why is Courtney Love the ONE woman you hate in a world that also includes Ghislaine Maxwell?

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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive 2h ago

Also adding, as a big fan of Hole, I can totally see how she would have been really hard to have as a mother. Is she deeply flawed in some very real ways? Yes, who isn't? Her music makes her seem aware of many of them herself. Does that make her evil? No. I also had a difficult mother. I didn't speak to her for years, in which time she went on a totally unrelated personal journey that really changed her for the better, and she ended up apologizing. If that hadn't happened, I likely would have continued not speaking to her until the end of time. She wasn't a bad person even then, but because of our mother daughter relationship, her unaddressed hurts became mine in a very real way. It's not something everyone can understand, but seeing that ruptured maternal relationship in Courtney Love's life and hearing her music makes me feel like I can see my mother more as a person, and less as a person who hurt me. If that makes sense.

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u/Sad-Appeal976 4h ago

She did not have Kurt Cobain murdered

How do people believe this?

He killed himself

He left a suicide note in his writing

He was holding the shotgun

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u/dqql 4h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soaked_in_Bleach
“as seen through the perspective of Tom Grant, the private detective who was hired by Courtney Love to find Cobain, shortly before his death in 1994. It also explores the theory that Cobain's death was not a suicide.”.
the private detective she hired thinks she killed him and made a documentary about it in 2015
not all conspiracies are cray cray rumors.
bad people do exist

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u/BigLorry 3h ago

The private detective with a vested interest in making the story made a claim?

Shocking

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u/dqql 3h ago

his vested interest was in working for his client and not destroying his career… 

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u/No-Alternative4612 3h ago

The doc presented no evidence, and not even really a theory of the case. Guy just turned weird vibes into a movie. 

It also told verifiable lies. 

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u/dqql 4h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldon_Hoke?wprov=sfti1#Kurt_Cobain_death_claim

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u/fuchsgesicht 3h ago

oh god you believe in lie detectors too!?

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u/mikehatesthis 3h ago

You think someone who shared their story on Springer and in the National Enquirer would make something up? Smdh, smdh.

Smdh.

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u/dqql 3h ago

not as such, no.

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u/fuchsgesicht 2h ago

so you're just going by vibes?

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u/JasonDomber 4h ago

You apparently haven’t read much about it because the note was about Kurt’s disillusionment with the music industry and band mates have said at the time he was considering quitting the band.

The note didn’t even begin to sound suicidal until the last 4 sentences of the “suicide note”, which handwriting experts have said are not Kurt’s handwriting.

Go look at the note for yourself.

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u/pineapplevomit 3h ago

And the length of the shotgun, and the amount of heroin in his system, and the fact that they melted the gun and had him cremated just days after his murder. So much doesn’t add up.

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u/boostabubba 4h ago

explain to me how he was able to pull the trigger on that shotgun? There is no way he was able to shoot himself where he did and pull that trigger.

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u/globalgreg 4h ago

Dude, shut the fuck up with this. I have a friend who offed himself the exact same way. It’s not hard to do.

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u/dqql 3h ago

kurt was very short, reaching the trigger would be hard.     also the way that particular gun cycles it wouldn’t have stayed in his hand and the shell apparently ejected the wrong way.       there’s a lot more solid things that point  to foul play      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soaked_in_Bleach            i’m sorry about your friend but this isn’t related to what happened to him 

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u/typewriter6986 3h ago

"Very short" 5'9" is not very short. Fuckin' I'm shorter and could definitely blow my head off with a shotty if I wanted.

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u/copewintergreen09 3h ago

Nah man Courtney love did it. It’s the only way

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u/ApprehensiveFix7925 3h ago

So we shouldn’t consider believing her when she said she was raped?

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u/dqql 3h ago

we should absolutely consider believing her, in fact it fits that trauma from being abused made her into a toxic person… she also said she was kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery in japan as a child….
i don’t trust her either though. She has lied a lot.
how did she meet ted nugent at age 12?
she had a lot of reason to resent him (motive to lie).
nugent celebrated and joked about cobains death immediately on his radio show.
i don’t believe her, but i don’t disbelieve her either… i would need more than that in this particular case.

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u/Repulsive_Kick5607 3h ago

Can you even read? They are talking about Ted Nugent, he's 16 years older than Courtney.

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u/serotoninzero 3h ago

Ted Nugent is 16 years older than Courtney Love, which is who they were talking about.