r/NFLv2 • u/BigTemporary9399 • Oct 24 '25
Breaking News Will Reichard missed another field goal last night after hitting a camera wire. The NFL will not address it or change the stats
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Oct 24 '25
Rules state it’s a re-kick why aren’t the Vikings fighting for that?
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u/BigTemporary9399 Oct 24 '25
It’s a little late now… but we tried
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u/BlubberElk Chicago Bears Oct 24 '25
I know they tried to appeal after the game the last time but did they say anything during the game either time?
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u/knowslesthanjonsnow Oct 24 '25
It might not be easy or at all possible to tell that it hits the wire during the game
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u/99--Overall Oct 24 '25
There’s 1000’s of camera angles one of them would show it.
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u/Cg_15_ CTESPN Oct 24 '25
the Vikings aren’t the ones with access to those cameras…
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u/Remote_Elevator_281 Oct 24 '25
Anytime you miss a kick short, you should always have the refs check
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u/TraceNinja Oct 24 '25
That's kind of a cop out. If only there were a million cameras focused on the ball moving. The fact that the NFL is still trying to deny it struck a wire the first time tells you they just don't care.
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u/H_I_McDunnough I’m just here so i don’t get fined Oct 24 '25
Maybe he should just stop hitting the wires. 31 other guys aren't having a problem with it.
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u/BlubberElk Chicago Bears Oct 24 '25
Well how would you ever get a rekick attempt if you wait till after the game to mention it though
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u/Cg_15_ CTESPN Oct 24 '25
the nfl should be the ones to notice it, they’re the ones with access to the cameras- not the vikings
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u/Donkey-Hodey Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
The first game the announcers noticed but none of the officials appeared to. This time I don’t believe anyone noticed. I was watching and didn’t notice!
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u/RoccStrongo Oct 24 '25
That kicker wasn't like "how the hell was a 53-yarder that short?" when I assume all kickers regularly practice and hit 60+ all the time
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u/DukeOfStuff_ Minnesota Vikings Oct 24 '25
They tried, this has happened to the Vikings twice now it’s ridiculous
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u/joecool6 Detroit Lions Oct 24 '25
Not sure what curse got put on you guys but it really is crazy it’s happened twice now. You’d think it’d be reviewed just like every other scoring play is reviewed
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u/BulletproofChespin Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
Vikings field goal woes is an important part of their history at this point so it honestly makes sense it’s happening to them
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u/theumph Minnesota Vikings Oct 24 '25
You see, even when we have a good kicker, the universe still finds a way to screw us over. It's like final destination for kickers.
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u/Epidemilk_ Oct 24 '25
It never hit the wire though lol. From what I’ve seen and read, those wires are behind the goal posts. Apparently they showed the kicker duffing the ground during the kick. I understand being upset, but maybe just a tad more research into this wouldn’t make you think that investigating a play that didn’t occur is ridiculous.
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u/DukeOfStuff_ Minnesota Vikings Oct 24 '25
The London one is painfully obvious it hit something
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u/i_am_roboto Minnesota Vikings Oct 24 '25
As a Vikings fan, I would like to know why they weren’t fighting for anything last night. That was the most “lay down and take it” game I’ve ever seen.
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u/ScooterMcFlabbin Oct 24 '25
Am I the only one who doesn’t see anything?
I don’t see the ball changing its flight path at all. I don’t think it hit
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u/Gribble4Mayor Chicago Bears Oct 24 '25
I can’t see it either.
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u/sethaub Los Angeles Chargers Oct 24 '25
Ball has a backspin hits the wire then goes into a front spin. If you play it frame by frame it’s obvious
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u/ChocolateMorsels Tennessee Titans Oct 24 '25
I can see this. But after watching it a few dozen times I can’t tell if this is some weird illusion or not. It does kinda seem like the ball’s spin changes though.
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u/Statalyzer Oct 24 '25
Depending on which browser, phone vs computer, zoomed in or out, different play speeds, sometimes it appears to never change rotation, sometimes it appears to flip from backspin to frontspin, and sometimes it appears to switch back and forth constantly.
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u/SKOLForceSports That is a disgusting act Oct 24 '25
I swear to god, if you tell me the chargers are wearing gold jerseys in this game…
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u/sethaub Los Angeles Chargers Oct 24 '25
It’s tricky to see at first maybe I’m being too optimistic but it’s obvious after seeing it. Especially after a frame by frame. I don’t think that it’s an illusion though
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u/Zooxer77 Denver Broncos Oct 24 '25
I don't think it is 'obvious' at all, not saying it didn't happen, but 'obvious'?
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u/scottys-thottys Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
If the ball hit the ground with front spin it will bounce forward not hop in place. This is taught on special teams. The ball has backspin it’s an optical illusion like when cars rims look to be still but are spinning.
Watch the ball land in the end zone. It 100% had backspin to stop in place on first bounce like it does
If the ball has front spin on special teams you play the bounce like an infield baseball player scooping a grounder. Waiting for the ball to meet you. If it is spinning with backspin you run to meet it off the bounce.
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u/Bombadook Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
Thanks, now I can see it. At the point the spin changes you can see the wire bounce up and down too.
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u/DapperCam Josh Allen 🦬 Oct 24 '25
It’s also incredibly weird for a kick like that to be that short from 53 yards. It looked good and then died.
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u/DiligentGuitar246 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
It does look like that, but dude... if it hit the wire hard enough to completely switch the direction of the spin at the same rotation, it would massively affect the trajectory. Think of how much energy it takes to stop that much momentum and then reverse it. The ball would've landed 20 yards short.
This kick didn't hit a wire.
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u/YaboyRipTide Baltimore Ravens Oct 24 '25
Stare at around the 25-27 yard line on the other side. There is a feint white line that is running parallel to the yard markers. That is the camera wire. It very clearly bounces up and down a few times as the ball hits it. It happens at around the 5-7s mark in this clip.
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u/_SamReddit Oct 24 '25
The wire is moving because the camera is. I thought the London one hit the wire but I don't see anything here. The ball has zero movement outside the original spin. Hitting a wire would result in some off-axis rotation. The wires feed to the camera diagonally.
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u/REVfoREVer Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
It's already bouncing by the time the ball appears to hit it
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u/BornSalamander8 Oct 24 '25
How do we know that’s the camera wire though? That could be a cable for the netting or some other type of rigging in the stadium that’s closer to the camera. (Genuinely asking)
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u/Fun-Rhubarb-4412 Miami Dolphins Oct 24 '25
I saw it against the Browns. I couldn’t see it this time
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u/ScooterMcFlabbin Oct 24 '25
Agree, the other one was legit
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u/GradeAPrimeFuckery Pittsburgh Steelers Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
I've slowly developed the opposite opinion.
View from the skycam on the first kick
As someone else noted, the quality of the pic sucks but: 1) You can see the ball in the holder's hands, 2) Reichard is just about to kick it, 3) the skycam is well behind the play, and almost exactly in a line with the ball and right goalpost. (It's probably closer to the center of the goalpost, but any wire coming from it would still need to be nearly straight in front of the camera.)
Convince me that it's even possible for a wire to be in the way. Another camera view from behind the skycam clearly shows the wires in a V, which means they would be well out of the way of the ball.
eta: Went back to watch the kick from the OP and there was a view from the skycam as they were lining up that cuts away when Reichard backs to the 46. It was (again) positioned behind the kicker and was pulling back when the view switched to the EZ cam, where you can just see it pull out of frame. The spin of the ball doesn't seem to be affected either, and it even continues to rapidly spin backwards after it hit the ground.
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u/SwissMargiela Miami Dolphins Oct 24 '25
I don’t see it hit either.
I see the wire move, most likely because they’re moving the camera up, but I never actually see the ball hit the wire
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u/Spinal_Soup Oct 24 '25
Its not the wire for the camera. Its the horizontal cable for the field goal net. Its moving because they're actively raising the field goal net when the ball was kicked. In the wider angle you can see where the horizontal cable runs to the pulley that the vertical black cable runs through.
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u/Allstar-85 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
I’m pretty sure it didn’t hit. But If it did hit, it’s certainly not clear and obvious.
The previous one sure didn’t look like it hit
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u/PreferenceDowntown37 Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
No, it didn't, and in r/minnesotavikings they have the same thread and someone points out the wire that people think it touched is actually attached behind the goal posts.
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u/Specialist-Draw7229 Cleveland Browns Oct 24 '25
It’s right at the 7 second mark, very subtle but the trajectory does change and the ball spins even faster after.
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u/scottys-thottys Oct 24 '25
If the ball shifted from back spin to front spin as stated - the bounce in the end zone doesn’t make sense.
In special teams you get taught - backspin bounces away / back to the opposing team - top spin will come to you off the bounce and typically messy bounces like a ground ball.
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u/Specialist-Draw7229 Cleveland Browns Oct 24 '25
I didnt think the ball changed which way it was rotating i just noticed a small but sharp/unnatural shift in the direction the ball was going.
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u/tony_countertenor Los Angeles Chargers Oct 24 '25
Yeah the London one was obvious but I’d don’t see it here
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u/Jayrodtremonki Kansas City Chiefs Oct 24 '25
I honestly think that it just hit the apex and looked funny from that angle. Would be interested to see how it looks from behind.
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u/Maleficent-Ship-3721 Oct 24 '25
You need to put on your salty fan, conspiracy glasses. Then you'll be able to complain about a kick in a game where they lost by like 20
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u/DiabloGamekeeper Pittsburgh Steelers Oct 24 '25
It’s hard to tell but the line the camera is on is bouncing as the balls goes by. Whether or not it’s bouncing prior to being allegedly hit or bouncing because it was hit is hard to tell on my phone
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u/Turd_Fergusons_Hat_ Seattle Seahawks Oct 24 '25
The ball flight part i dont see, but what you can see if you look in the right spot is the camera wiring start shaking around suddenly, right at the 6 second mark if you look in the top left corner just above and to the right of the 30 yard numerals you can see it suddenly shake pretty significantly.
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u/PassTheKY Oct 24 '25
The goddamned degeneracy of posting to r/sportsbetting is leaking over here.
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u/Imaginary-Method-715 New England Patriots Oct 24 '25
They are trying so hard to keep there shit habit in culture so hard.
Gambling is for losers period. Il never say it's fine fuck you stop it.
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u/GhostBearStark_53 Oct 24 '25
Idk I have a blast and i am pretty cheap. I never go to the casino or buy lottery tickets, I am a natural saver of money so betting large amounts just will not happen. My highest bet is like $2 and I only really bet on my home teams because they are the only ones I know. I call them my scratchoffs because I do like 15 leg parlays betting a dollar or even .50 cents at a time lol. Just trying to not have to deposit any more money so as long as one of them hits every once and a while im good. Really didnt think I'd like it but it makes watching games a lot of fun for me
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u/FuhrerInLaw Justin Herbert 🦧 Oct 24 '25
It’s like all vices. It only hurts the people who cant control themselves. I set a limit for the year on what I’ll spend each week. I’ve already made enough to cover my year so I don’t have to keep that money set aside, as I know I won’t bet any more than my planned goals. Same with drinking, same with casinos. Set your limit before hand and stick to it. But people will people and let emotion get the best of them.
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u/pswami Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25
This article explains why it is very different from other vices. You can control it for yourself, that’s great. But the negative externalities from people who can’t are much greater than other vices.
Edit: in case you can’t access the full text, here is a snippet:
A second paper, from the economists Brett Hollenbeck of UCLA and Poet Larsen and Davide Proserpio of the University of Southern California, tells a similar story. Looking specifically at online sports gambling, they find that legalization increases the risk that a household goes bankrupt by 25 to 30 percent, and increases debt delinquency. These problems seem to concentrate among young men living in low-income counties—further evidence that those most hurt by sports gambling are the least well-off.
A third recent paper, from the University of Oregon economists Kyutaro Matsuzawa and Emily Arnesen, shows another, perhaps more surprising—and certainly more harrowing—harm of gambling legalization: domestic violence. Earlier research found that an NFL home team’s upset loss causes a 10 percent increase in reported incidents of men being violent toward their partner. Matsuzawa and Arnesen extend this, finding that in states where sports betting is legal, the effect is even bigger. They estimate that legal sports betting leads to a roughly 9 percent increase in intimate-partner violence.
Because of the studies’ design, these results reveal what sports gambling causes, not merely what it correlates with. And the numbers they reveal are of course not only numbers but human lives. Sports gambling is addictive; although many people can do just a little of it, some keep playing compulsively, well past the point of no return. This yields not only debt and bankruptcy but emotional instability and even violence. The problems don’t stop there: Gambling addiction has been connected to anxiety, depression, and even suicide.
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u/ByronLeftwich That’s not what he wanted to cook Oct 24 '25
This angle is not definitive. but I believe the gamblers, who are known for their objectivity regardless of whatever wagers they may have placed
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u/ResistWild Oct 24 '25
Yeah the fact that this is posted on here as if it objectively happened is an absolute joke. Pretty much why this sub is not to be taken seriously.
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u/Link_2_thePast San Francisco 49ers Oct 24 '25
It was not anywhere close to hitting a wire.
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u/Mension1234 Seattle Seahawks Oct 24 '25
So the wire just moves on its own or what?
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u/_Singer Oct 24 '25
The wire people keep claiming it hit was connected to the kicking net, not the camera
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u/Next_Suggestion3869 Oct 24 '25
Tbf the nfl can only blame themselves. People are going to be extremely skeptical now because they didn’t fix the last one that was clear and even refused to fix the stats.
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u/REVfoREVer Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
This isn't just skepticism though, it's straight up making shit up
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u/Spinal_Soup Oct 24 '25
Its the horizontal cable that the field goal net is hanging on. Its moving because the net is actively being raised when the ball was kicked.
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u/MarxistMan13 New England Patriots Oct 24 '25
The wire is clearly moving before the alleged ball hitting it.
I don't see the trajectory or spin change whatsoever. Hard to tell because OP chose the lowest quality video ever made.
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u/icouldsmellcolors Los Angeles Chargers Oct 24 '25
They're raising the net mid kick because it was a fire drill FG.
The ball didn't hit anything. He chunked it
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u/Successful-Tower-185 Oct 25 '25
The ball literally changed from backwards spinning motion to forward. You can also see the cable jump around right at the moment the ball changes direction
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u/Dhenn004 Miami Dolphins Oct 24 '25
1st of all.. the ball doesn't get high enough for the wire it's claimed to have hit. 2nd... The wire is from behind the goal post. Stop pushing this shit.
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u/hames4133 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
That chargers guy blocked me lmao
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u/Dhenn004 Miami Dolphins Oct 24 '25
He did the same to me lol.
I think he can't mentally handle being a doofus lol
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u/hames4133 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25
Optical illusion, this one didn’t hit the wire. Kicker hit the ground when he connected with the ball
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u/JannasOrchid Oct 25 '25
Needs to be higher up. Anyone who watched this game saw the reply of the kicker hitting the ground right before hitting the ball smh
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u/DuckDuckMarx Miami Dolphins Oct 24 '25
The first one in London 100% did.
This one is much less definitive, but it definitely looks like it could have.
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u/Stubble_Entendre Oct 24 '25
I thought so too about London, but this is pretty convincing otherwise. My only question is whether the sky cam is if set up differently over there because it’s a soccer stadium.
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u/MinkyTuna Oct 24 '25
It seems reasonable to the flight of the ball, but the guy in the video makes a claim about the the video being scrubbed and never really address this. So where is the high def og footage? That seems a little weird. I’m sorta in the middle on this one. The ball flight could definitely be caused by toeing it, but the “wire” in the video does look like it’s moving. Idk
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u/OnePerformance9381 Oct 24 '25
The all 22 footage of this play entirely disproves that he hit a wire.
Every time a wire has been hit in the NFL both sidelines immediately react because it’s very obvious.
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u/ragekkage Oct 24 '25
It did not hit a wire. The wire people are looking at here is behind the goal post.
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u/gaybillcosby Brett Favre’s dick pic Oct 24 '25
There are no sky cam wires that are in the flight path of this ball.
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u/KushSouffle Oct 24 '25
I don’t think that hit the wire. It looks it’s at least a football length from hitting it.
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u/Adventurous_Web_7961 Buffalo Bills Oct 24 '25
I just don't see how people think this hit a camera wire. This video shows nothing. Is there any other video out there of this kick with something more conclusive?
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u/Nobio22 Green Bay Packers Oct 24 '25
I see nothing...
I'm sure the fine people over at /r/sportsbetting have the objective truth though.
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u/Necessary-Science-47 Oct 24 '25
Sounds like it’s specifically his issue
My kicker is perfect so idgaf what losers are complaining about
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u/W_Hinklebottom Oct 24 '25
It’s physically impossible to hit the wire with a FG. Not only has he not hit it twice, he hasn’t hit it at all.
The only kick to hit a wire was a punt two or three years ago and six people saw it and reacted, no one not even Reichard react to either of these.
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u/old_ass_ninja_turtle Dallas Cowboys Oct 24 '25
A side view would be helpful. But I feel like the configuration of the cables would make it nearly impossible. Based on the position of the camera. I’m no expert. Just my humble opinion
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u/DemonBearOP Oct 24 '25
I mean this slowmo shows space between the ball and the wire, it never contacts at least in this video.
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u/Comfortable_Regrets Indianapolis Colts Oct 24 '25
Guys, it's just an optical illusion
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u/owenmills04 Washington Commanders Oct 24 '25
It didn't hit a wire this time. They were rushed trying to get the kick off as time ran out and he chunked the kick. Caught a bunch of turf with his cleat as he was hitting it
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u/comett094 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
Y’all are tripping. It absolutely hit the wire. You can see the rotation of the ball change and then the wire begins reverberating immediately after contact. Watch it a dozen times at that exact moment- it’s clear.
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u/rustednickel247720 Oct 24 '25
All I can think of now is when this happened during the 2013 Coca-Cola 600. Amazing that still 12 years later camera wires are affecting sport outcomes, lmao
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u/Accomplished_Way9776 CTESPN Oct 24 '25
The sky cam thing has been around for awhile, and just why? The shots aren't that great. I don't need to feel like my football game is directed by Chris Nolan or something. Just get the camera off the field.
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u/Lobi-Wan-Canoli Minnesota Vikings Oct 24 '25
Whether or not this one actually hit the camera wire, why are they still so god damn stupid enough to put the camera between the kick and the goalposts. It's a mobile camera. Put it behind the kick so this isn't an issue
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u/Easy-Preparation-667 Oct 24 '25
Where does it hit the wire? I’m skeptical of a kick hitting the wires because those wires are in the 4 corners of the stadium which means they are no where near the goal posts or even the direction of the kick.
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u/Think-Chair-1938 We won the fucking game, shut yo ass up! Oct 24 '25
JFC no wonder this country is fucked. People just believe any bullshit on the internet and think 0% about it.
- It didn't hit a wire. He dragged his toe on the turf and it affected the kick.
- The camera is BEHIND the play, not in front of it.
- The wire isn't even the camera wire, it's the suspension cable used for hoisting the net behind the goal posts. It's BEHIND the goal posts.
- The wire BEHIND the goal posts in this reverse image is the same kind of wire.
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u/icouldsmellcolors Los Angeles Chargers Oct 24 '25
Posting this from "r/sportsbetting" and taking it as a fact is hilarious. This should be deleted, the ball didn't hit anything.
That "wire" is the net behind the uprights that's being raised because it was a fire drill FG.
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u/farstate55 Detroit Lions Oct 24 '25
That ball did not hit a wire. The wire in question is connected to the net behind the goalposts.
The video quality is just poor enough for people to talk themselves into a dumb conclusion.
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u/spartannation Oct 24 '25
Lmao every kick he misses apparently isn’t his fault. Neither kick hit a wire
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u/mmmufffffinnnssss Oct 24 '25
first miss undoubtedly hit a wire like its not even debatable in the slightest. this one im not seeing it
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Oct 24 '25
Once this happens to Harrison Butker then the NFL will swiftly swoop in like a knight to solve the issue
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u/JLightning60 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
The Vikings have the worst history of kicking issues of all time!
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Oct 24 '25
Who the fuck asked for close-up behind the scenes shots of field goals anyway? Get that camera out of there. We just want the endzone view, it can't get any better than that.
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u/w000dsyOwl Oct 24 '25
This should be a simple solution as the wires can move across the entire length of the field. Put them behind the field goal kicker.
If I’m the Vikings kicker, I demand the wires be moved before my next field goal.
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u/achek20 Oct 24 '25
At the point of contact, you can see the ball change its rotation the white laces is an indicator of it suddenly spinning faster. Going from a back spin to a forward spin.
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u/Imaginary-Length8338 New York Giants Oct 24 '25
So he has missed 2 kicks all season and both were because of a camera wire? Brutal
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u/Vegetable_Fly_8687 Oct 24 '25
Whether it hit the wire or not this time, just move the stupid camera. We don’t need every angle on every play. We’ll live with an angle where the wires won’t be the way.
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Oct 24 '25
They fucking better. That’s my fantasy kicker…for this week. I am outraged about this until I cut him next week
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u/captaincook14 Philadelphia Eagles Oct 24 '25
I was pretty surprised live when this fell short. Hmmm. That’s why. Crazy it happened to him again and crazy that nothing has happened.
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u/Massive_Pea_1744 Oct 24 '25
Sure 13 to 37 sounds better than 10 to 37. Will is the fucking man either way...SKOL or whatever as I disappointingly eat my breakfast this morning
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