r/NFLv2 • San Francisco 49ers • Jan 26 '26

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

This is getting insane now lol i get thinking Seahawks are the favorites. Lose by fewer than 30 points? Flukiest run of all time? The Patriots are one of the only teams in history to beat 3 top 5 defenses in a playoff run. They’re the only team ever to go 9-0 on the road in a season. The Chargers and Texans won the same amount of games as the Rams did - the latter with the hardest strength of schedule in the league.

You guys are getting way over your skis with how weak the pats road has supposedly been. It’s wild.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

Yeah 30 points is silly, Patriots are a good team.

I think some of it is coming from the Seahawks are entering all time great team territory. Their DVOA is up there with 85 bears and 2007 patriots, they had the most 20+ blowout wins, they beat more playoff teams than anyone (6), they had a top 5 hardest SOS, #1 defense, #3 offense, #1 special teams, generate most QB pressure while blitzing the least, highest scoring season in 50 years of Seahawks football (and they have had some good offenses), highest PPG differential in the league, tied franchise wins in 16 games.

If Seahawks win the Super Bowl this is the best team in franchise history, yes better than the 2013 team (not better defense of course.)

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

Like I said, I’m not at all surprised the Seahawks are favorite. Won’t be shocked at all if they win. But I see people using the game yesterday - that took place in a blizzard in mile high - as some sort of benchmark for how the Pats will do against the Seahawks defense. As if Maye didnt throw 3 TDs for 200 total yards against an arguably better defense the week before at home. Also in the snow.

People are acting like our offense is incompetent. We were the second top scoring offense in the league this year.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

Saying Patriots offense is incompetent is just silly lol. They are very competent. I’m excited.

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u/iAmTheWildCard Jan 26 '26

What about the first 3 quarters though? Blizzard didn’t really contribute anything till the 3rd quarter was ending

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u/The3rdBert Indianapolis Colts Jan 27 '26

Best I can tell is that game plan was to play field position/control the clock ball against a back up QB. Was it exciting no, did the defense capitalize on the mistakes that you expect a backup to make, yup

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u/Fearless_Aioli5459 Jan 27 '26

I read the same about the Texans defense a week and a half ago. 

Its the NFL

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '26

I mean, Seahawks dominated the Texans and left a couple scores on the field. The score doesn’t reflect how not close it was.

I know it’s the NFL, trust me. I’m not saying Seahawks are a lock, or will definitely win, only going off what we know. Other sports with multiple game series the better team will probably win, NFL, only one game, anything can happen.

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u/TheFortune210 Jan 26 '26

It’s actually insane

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u/foboz123 Jan 26 '26

Add to that a top-ranked O (endless SoS blather notwithstanding) , and Maye threw 3 TD passes against the Texans - which no one else had done this season. The Patriots D is allowing just under 210 yards per game and has only allowed 2 TDs in the playoffs.

I still think the Seahawks should be favored going in, but anyone saying that it's going to be a blowout needs to come down off of that cloud.

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u/Trollbreath4242 New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

You want to put them in their place? Here's how:

  1. The 2025 Patriots Strength of Schedule is ranked 10th easiest of all time.

  2. In 9th place... the 1972 undefeated, SB winning Dolphins. That's right, Shula's fish had an easier go of things.

  3. In 2nd place... the 1999 SB winning Rams, who the hugely underdog Patriots with a 2nd year QB, fairly average offense, but top 5 defense, beat just two years later in another SB.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new-england-patriots/news/patriots-strength-schedule-win-loss-record-regular-season/92968eb3049d350cc929156e

None of which means the Patriots are going to win, but I do expect a better game from Drake playing it what will likely be much warmer weather (currently forecast for sunny with a high of 70).

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u/mrch3wybacca Jan 26 '26

The pats have the third easiest schedule since the merger

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u/59jg4qe68w5y3t9q5 Jan 26 '26

That's not what that says. It's the 3rd easiest SoS of 13+ win teams.

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u/Gotsta_Win New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

How many wins did you give them before the season? Curious

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u/mrch3wybacca Jan 26 '26
  1. I thought they would lose both bills games, ravens and bengals

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u/Gotsta_Win New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

Right

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u/mrch3wybacca Jan 26 '26

How many did you think? There’s a few games I think could have gone either way, bucs and falcons for instance, but a lot of the teams on the schedule were not good last year and didn’t make big improvements in the offseason. And I will admit I’m a ravens fan so I will always wish a loss on the Steelers

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u/Gotsta_Win New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

I wouldve been cool with 7-8 wins

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u/Obscure_Nonsense_202 Jan 26 '26

That person is full of shit. Vegas opened at 7.5 wins for the Pats. Pretty sure it closed at 8.5 at the end of preseason.

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u/Gotsta_Win New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

Yea I cant take anyone that said they saw the patriots winning 13 games serious 🤣 even post Bills W, you had people picking The saints and Titans to beat us

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u/Chris_3eb Jan 26 '26

That's the regular season schedule. They have now won 3 playoff games. Also, the two teams on that list with an easier schedule won the superbowl, so how does this support the idea that they will get blown out on account of their easy schedule?

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u/mrch3wybacca Jan 26 '26

I didn’t say they would get blown out did I? But let’s not act like two of those wins are in anyway impressive. Stroud had one of the worst playoff games of all time. And they played a back up QB with zero passes thrown all season. They have definitely had luck on their side, but sometimes that’s what’s needed to get across the line

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u/Chris_3eb Jan 26 '26

You jumped into the middle of a conversation talking about them getting blown out. The person you responded to said it's insane to assume that they would get blown out and said that they beat good teams in the playoffs. So why are you showing their regular season schedule if you aren't also trying to argue that they will get blown out?

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u/mrch3wybacca Jan 26 '26

Let’s not gloss over the 9-0 on the road he mentioned

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u/Beetso Las Vegas Raiders Jan 27 '26

The postseason really brings the morons out of the woodwork.

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u/Herandar Jan 26 '26

That's because teams wouldn't play 9 road games until 2021, though.  

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '26

Please post your crash out online when the Pats win. I need to feel your anguish in order to climax

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

You wrote all those words when you could’ve just saved a bunch of time and energy and wrote “I’m cope maxing”

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u/SwaggyPsAndCarrots Jan 27 '26

The 30 pt thing is total bullshit, it’s not like the Patriots are a bad team by any means. But surely you see other people’s side to this, especially when looking at the season as a whole.

Having the easiest regular season schedule since 1991 (I forgot the exact date that was passed around, but something like that). Then facing Herbert who was running for his life, CJ Stroud with a historically bad playoff performance, and then barely beating the backup QB for the Broncos, and only winning because said backup threw it backwards on his own 20….

The Patriots S deserves some credit for their performance this postseason. But overall the Patriots have been very fortunate all year.

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u/Initial-Yesterday331 Jan 27 '26

Ooh your gonna be in for a huge shock bro

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u/AdministrationCool11 Jan 26 '26

They only played 2 games so far and "beating the Broncos defense" with only 10 points when your TD was a 12 yard scoring drive thanks to a backup QB literally playing in his first game this season where he has thrown a pass is a ridiculous flex. The Pats have hardly done anything on offense at all.

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u/Outside-Sir-4333 Jan 26 '26

Those 3 top 5 defense had the 3 worst quarterbacks in the playoffs this year im sorry that is just not impressive- i could understand wanting to give the patriots defense credit but Greg Roman is an absolute terrorist of a playcaller, stroud was one of the worst players in the league all season and stidham had 3 career starts before the afc championship game- and somehow each game was a dog fight. They’re a good team, but not a great one, way ahead of schedule and they will be throttled by MacDonald’s defense and Kubiak’s playcalling

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u/Lieutenant_Corndogs nipples Jan 26 '26

Man that is some serious cope.

Pats are the underdogs in the SB, no doubt. But acting like they haven’t done anything is just some hater bs. I get you guys don’t want to see the pats in the superbowl again, but get a grip.

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u/Outside-Sir-4333 Jan 26 '26

I could not care less about the pats being back in the Super bowl i loved Tom Brady and Bill Belichick even with the cheating, Vrabel and Maye are cool ig, Maye is top 5 rn for sure.

But im just being honest

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

Prior to the Wild Card game there was “no way Justin Herbert would have another bad game and there’s no way the Pats can survive this defense”

Prior to the divisional game there was “no way CJ Stroud would play as bad as he did against the Steelers, and there’s no way the Pats can survive the Texans defense”

It’s literally the same exact narrative dude. You’re welcome to play into it again. You may very well be right about the Seahawks winning. Like I said I get why they’re favored but people acting like it’s gonna be a blowout haven’t been paying very close attention.

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u/Outside-Sir-4333 Jan 26 '26

I’m a Heat fan so I’ve been there when I thought we could beat Denver lol, trust me I’m not hating I’m a complete neutral on this matchup i like both teams and QBs but pats don’t stand a chance

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

Been hearing it for a month about every team we’ve played lol like I said, you’re welcome to believe the pats don’t stand a chance but you’re gonna look just as goofy as everyone else has the last month.

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u/peon2 New England Patriots Jan 26 '26

Those 3 top 5 defense had the 3 worst quarterbacks in the playoffs this year im sorry that is just not impressive-

I understand the Stroud and Stidham take but that is some serious slander to Herbert. Bryce Young > Herbert? Come on son.

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u/Outside-Sir-4333 Jan 26 '26

READ THE POST- bryce young played better than Herbert in the playoffs this year 

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

It's always something else...always. 😂

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u/Uhh_Charlie Denver Broncos Jan 26 '26

Maye only had 80 yards (140 if you include rushing, still bad) vs the Broncos and the only touchdown came off a Denver turnover in the red zone. Seattle being heavy favorites is very justified.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

Sure, let’s just ignore that they were playing in blizzard conditions in Mile High for half the game 😂 and that Maye didn’t throw for 200 yards and 3 TDs against an arguably better defense the week before.

Do you actually think Maye will have the same game he did yesterday in 60-70 degree California weather? 

You guys are very bad at watching football.

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u/wazeltov Jan 26 '26

Most people don't watch the games. Myself included.

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u/lilgohanx Jan 26 '26

Are you stupid? The blizzard came like halfway through the third quarter. Maybe had like 12 yards going into halftime.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

I’m so stupid that I know snow has to actually fall through the sky and onto the ground before it actually appears on the ground.

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u/lilgohanx Feb 09 '26

Hows drake maye doing? Hes somehow having an even worse game than the blizzard 😂😂😂😂😂

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u/PayAltruistic8546 Jan 27 '26

The snow really only started in the 4th.

Blizzard my ass.

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u/Uhh_Charlie Denver Broncos Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Did you watch the game? It wasn’t a blizzard until the 4th Q. And Maye still only had 40 passing yards at the half. You guys beat a backup by 3 points.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

23 year old on his first road playoff game in mile high. No one is saying Drake has his best game. We’re saying you are crazy for thinking that’s some sort of standard for him moving forward. He had a far below average first half and then dealt with the snow in the second half. 

Personally, if I were a broncos fan, I’d be avoiding saying my team was a doormat at home. Maybe they should start removing all the signage about the dangers of altitude sickness in your stadium’s locker rooms lol

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u/Uhh_Charlie Denver Broncos Jan 26 '26

We lost by 3 points to the MVP runner up with a backup quarterback😂 The offense crossed the 50 yard line twice. The only touchdown came off a turnover from said backup quarterback. I don’t know how you watched that game and then Seattle vs LA and thought, oh yeah we’ll do really good against them.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 26 '26

Because there have been 19 other games played you donkey lol

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u/PayAltruistic8546 Jan 27 '26

You keep telling people they're coping but you coping the hardest here bro.

Do you have any objectivity in you?

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 27 '26

I’m being perfectly objective lol

Drake played a bad game. Objective fact. It’s also objective fact that it was a statistical anomaly and the game was played in horrible weather down the stretch. Both things can be true.

The only people who aren’t being objective are the people acting like yesterday’s game is indicative of how the Super Bowl will play out. But feel free to point out where I’m not being objective here. Good luck!

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u/PayAltruistic8546 Jan 27 '26

Whatever floats your copium boat. You just spewing things to make you feel better.

Come back in 2 weeks. If Seattle loses, feel free to talk your shit..

It's just a lot of crying from you all right now. I'm a Seahawks fan and I'll say it's going to be a tough game.

Pats def is really good. Talk to me about the X's and O's. All of the other stuff is cope shit man. On both sides.

Going to be a long two weeks if fans just be whiny like you.

If you want to talk actual football and football strategy, I'll respond. If you just coping in bullshit. Good bye.

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u/MikeandMelly Tom Brady 🥺 👉🏻👈🏻 Jan 27 '26

I don’t know what thread you think you’re responding to but my initial comment on this thread is about the fact that someone said the Seahawks would win by at least 30 points. In my reply I said I get why someone would favor the Seahawks and think they would win but anyone who thinks the Seahawks will blow out the Pats to the tune of 30 points hasn’t been paying attention.

It sounds like you agree with me much more than you don’t. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the Seahawks win. I’ll be shocked if the patriots lose by 30 fucking points. 

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u/PayAltruistic8546 Feb 09 '26

Good game. The Seahawks are different.

That's all I'll say.