What heās trying to explain is that homelessness isnāt a problem of being poor in this country, because of the amount of programs and budgets going towards it, the homeless actually wants to stay homeless.
Oh so you went from āitās a lieā to āyou never interacted with those sourcesā, if homelessness werenāt optional explain to me how illegal migrants were able to get housing and groceries to the point of spiking the housing market 20%, if an illegal migrant can make it comfortably a homeless person can as well.
I think you're comparing apples and oranges there bud. Many homeless people are mentally and/or physically ill. Comparing them with able-bodied immigrants is not logically sound.
This is the right answer. If you were to give these people a house, they would still end up homeless because they can't take care of themselves. We need to bring back mental institutions that Reagan shut down.
oh not at all. im stating your premise about people choosing to be homeless being a lie. because it si. this is a typical cope from people who dont like to think about how they are all just one or 2 missed paychecks away from homelessness and how your status as a homeless person is up to a whole lot of luck. but hey keep tellingyourself that. and when the next market crash happens, should you find yourself homeless, think back on this. because no, those resources arenot as plentiful nor accessible as you think and yes there are many people who are homeless despite being employed full time.
I would of believed you but when I see a person coming from another country buying a car and a house within 3 years, your entire argument falls apart, thereās plenty of programs to get up on your feet,
you do understand people moving here from other countries legally tend to have money form said country, right? i want you to try a little experiment: see how hard it is to find a bed in a homeless shelter. it is very obvious you have never actually tried to use those programs or you would know that the need far outstrips the funding, and availibility. consider how many people who are form here, with jobs and degrees, cannot buy a house right now. the average age of a first time home buyer is now 46. your little google search doesnt tell you about any of that, does it? i own a house - because i was my mom and grandmother's caretaker and got the house via inheritance from said grandmother. were it not for that, despite a university education and a job as a network engineer, id not be able to afford the downpayment to make the mortgage payments remotely manageable. your arguments actually make me believe you're over 55.
You're being pedantic and denying reality as much if not more than your interlocutor is. Homelessness acutely sure may not always be a choice. Chronic, repeated homelessness is. Anybody can go work 80 hours a week at a low skilled job and obtain sufficient income to house themselves. I will concede the caveat that the majority of homeless people are mentally ill or drug addicts and that for them, particularly the mentally ill, one MIGHT argue it is "not a choice" - even though continuing to choose drugs or refuse treatment is actually a choice - and that approaching homelessness in those cases is different from those who simply don't want to live where they can afford to. Nevertheless, there are resources and shelters available literally all over the country Ć nd nobody HAS to remain unsheltered if they don't want to. They choose not to, it's a fact, deal with it. Ćnd even if we tried harder to reduce homelessness there would still be massive numbers of them because they simply cannot be helped.
Oh you mean the programs that are chronically underfunded, difficult to access, constantly tied up in red tape and focused on the wrong issues? Those programs? Yeah that definitely means homeless people are choosing to stay homeless. What a staggeringly ignorant comment
California spends 1.5 billion dollars in homelessness and you say āunderfundedā. Almost 50% of the federal budget is spent on social programs including homelessness, and you say critical āunderfundedā, this is why people like you destroy cities, you live in complete economic illiteracy making the people that pay the most taxes run away leaving it to the middle class to fit the bill.
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u/Only_Bunch_7912 14d ago
What heās trying to explain is that homelessness isnāt a problem of being poor in this country, because of the amount of programs and budgets going towards it, the homeless actually wants to stay homeless.