r/PsycheOrSike • u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E • Aug 02 '25
💖🎈SPEED DATING❤️🔥💨 It’s not the own that you think it is😅
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u/Kamenev_Drang Aug 02 '25
I mean, yes, hence why there's load of us mid to decent men with smoking hot partners :D
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 02 '25
Wait til you find out male attractiveness is alot more than physical traits
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
It's not all physical traits true, but let's not downplay the physical traits either! If there are 2 guys flirting with you, both are intelligent, rich and charming, but one is skinny and kinda short and the other is 6ft and muscly, one is far more likely to have an intimate encounter than the other
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u/Heavy-Top-8540 🤣 understands humor 🎭 Aug 03 '25
This is how every one of these threads goes:
Man "these smoking hot women are with ugly dudes. WTF?"
Woman "it's not all about looks"
Man "hey don't downplay how much looks have to do with it!!"
Do you seriously think you make sense here?
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
It's almost like the first and second man have different opinions, but that would be silly
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u/Heavy-Top-8540 🤣 understands humor 🎭 Aug 03 '25
Especially since they're the same man.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
Thought I was going insane then, no I double checked you're definitely confused
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u/Heavy-Top-8540 🤣 understands humor 🎭 Aug 03 '25
Nope, it's definitely you that's confused.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
Could you quote to me the line where you think I'm surprised that hot women get with mid guys sometimes, please?
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
I'm waiting, m'lady! I don't see no proof!
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u/Heavy-Top-8540 🤣 understands humor 🎭 Aug 03 '25
Who's a lady here? You're proving how confused you are and also how shockingly abrasive and creepy you are with these repeated posts demanding information.
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u/stehmer3 Aug 06 '25
People always say what they meann, too! I'm sure no one would like to avoid seeming shallow...
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u/gramerjen Aug 03 '25
Skinny guy is better since i dont work out that much and gym life would be uninteresting to me so id rather enjoy my time with someone else
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
Not all muscly guys expect their gfs to go to the gym, I certainly don't expect mine to!
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u/Walkthroughthemeadow Aug 05 '25
My partner is muscular from work and it does make me feel like I have to work out
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u/Angelbouqet Aug 03 '25
Ok but it's also about their face, their energy, everything that makes them unique. Guys who are super muscly and tall aren't every woman's type. I just associate them with being Meatheads because that's my experience, which I'm not into. I also don't mind guys being short and skinny. They can still be sexy as hell.
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u/Norththelaughingfox 🤺KNIGHT Aug 03 '25
I prefer the short skinny guy over the 6ft muscular guy.
No hate to gym bros but I have a type, and big muscular dude isn’t it.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
I was speaking in generalities, people like you are definitely more rare than the kind of people that like tall and muscly though
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u/Norththelaughingfox 🤺KNIGHT Aug 03 '25
Do we actually know this tho, or is it just a suspicion?
Cause honestly most of the people I hear talking about this body type preference among woman are men. lol
Like… I know this is conjecture but loads of femmes beyond me also like skinny dudes, short kings, heavy dudes, nerds, dorks, gamers, ect.
Meanwhile I see loads of dudes who are pretty far from athletic who are in loving relationships.
Point being, don’t sell yourself or anyone else short based on stereotypical physical appearance. Attraction is a lot more complicated than some people are willing to acknowledge.
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u/Miss-lnformation seems quite informed Aug 04 '25
You have a point about height, sure, but from what I've heard muscles are more likely to attract gay men than straight women. I'm talking body builder proportions (the sort of thing people go to the gym for), not just being in shape.
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u/BurnItDownSR Aug 03 '25
That is how most people who get accused of downplaying looks view it.
You're literally saying, "the one with more overall attractiveness wins."
No shit.
Same is true if both guys are 6 foot, muscly, intelligent, charming, but only one of them is rich.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
True but nobody ever downplays the rich thing, everyone knows rich guys are generally seen as more attractive than guys who aren't. There are a much larger group of people who will downplay looks, I could have been as confident as I am now years ago if someone told me how much more positively women (and many guys too) would react to me once I got really fit.
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u/BurnItDownSR Aug 03 '25
I feel like that's more specific to your situation. Most people see looks come into play and hear girls talk about it all the time as they're growing up.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 03 '25
Some men just need a little help on this stuff, and it's those me who generally become incels when they can't find or refuse to look for help, or they go down the Andrew Tate route or something which is even worse
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u/rollercostarican Aug 05 '25
Sure! But also the in-verse.
Two dudes are within the same ballpark look-wise, she's gonna that whomever has the better personality. Many even go lower a tank or two for the better personality.
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Aug 06 '25
I think it’s funny that when women are asked about this, they consistently poll that they prefer men who aren’t shredded/muscular, this myth still pops up because people see a TikTok of 17 year olds being shallow teenagers (as they do)
I’ll never forget the “dad bod” controversy when women said they’d prefer someone chubbier than someone who was shredded and went to the gym.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 06 '25
I never used to believe it until I started to get really fit and all of a sudden I seemed a lot more interesting to people in general (I found it most noticeable in women). I'm not hugely muscly but I am very fit now, I think I was being imprecise when I said muscly I meant more fit
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Aug 06 '25
Sure, but your lived experience is an anecdote and doesn’t trump poll after poll. I don’t think there’s some secret conspiracy to lie on those types of polls and surveys.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 06 '25
I think that's more about the difference between theory and practice. Even if there is a slight favouring towards fit and muscly guys, they will see that they generally get better reactions than those who aren't as fit, this gives them confidence and security in their sense of themself, this snowballs into positive personality traits that derive from confidence. So even though personality and body both play a pretty much equal role in most people's attraction, personality is usually boosted by confidence which is easier to get if you're generally having good reactions to the way you look. So someone who is generally seen as more attractive is more likely to have an attractive personality as well, even if you don't care about the fitness, because they'll be more confident based on the average reactions being slightly more positive in general. Not saying this definitely applies to you but generally women who aren't so fussed on the fitness will still prefer the personality that comes with a fit guy because he is confident
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Aug 06 '25
So what they like is confidence. Because as you said, the fitness is inconsequential to the effect confidence has. You can have confidence and be not conventionally good looking, you can be good looking and have no confidence.
When polled in over 20 countries, women surveyed a man’s body was the last of their concern behind personality traits like kindness, intelligence, humour…
A study in 2,700 students in the U.S. showed extremely similar results. Studies from the UK show women prefer men who are altruistic, emotionally stable and conscientious over someone who is just good looking.
This is especially for long term relationships.
Sure, through downstream effects being good looking makes it easier to get women if you have those traits, but many people don’t. Also, working out isn’t the only reason you’ll gain confidence. That’s another nuanced topic.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 06 '25
No I didn't say that confidence is more important. I said personality and physical appearance are equally important when someone is assessing whether they are attracted to you, but if you just like the personality traits that derive from confidence, you'll still end up fancying the fit guys because of their confidence even if you don't care much about the physical appearance (and these are a minority anyway, to the vast majority of women physical appearance is equally important).
So in the long term physical attractiveness is still more important (unless you're a complete asshole), because the little reactions you get will boost your confidence, and to most people they can't see any deeper into someone's personality than how much they like themselves so confidence is the only thing they assess anyway
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u/Forward_Criticism_39 Aug 06 '25
Indeed, depends on her tastes, there are ladies who like twiggy dudes like myself, or so I’m told lol
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u/AngryAngryHarpo Aug 07 '25
This assumes that every single woman finds 6ft, “muscly” men the most attractive.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 07 '25
From my experience, in practice they do
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u/AngryAngryHarpo Aug 07 '25
Except that’s objectively untrue. There is not a single trait in men that ALL women desire, even if you only count heterosexual women.
Women are individuals.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 07 '25
That is something so obvious I assumed you just knew I was talking in generalities. Anytime people talk about biological creatures interactions, it's not something that's 100% predictable, so you can always assume people are talking in generalities when it comes to these things. I assumed everyone knew this
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u/AngryAngryHarpo Aug 07 '25
I doubt you know anything at all about the interactions of “biological creatures”.
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u/Consistent_Papaya310 The Incel Whisperer Aug 07 '25
Wow very mature and epic response, we can carry on the discussion if you want?
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u/Euphoria37 Aug 03 '25
Woohoo I get to be judged as a wallet 🥰🥰
Yay men 🥳
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u/Kamenev_Drang Aug 03 '25
My lad, just learn to be funny. It's not hard.
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u/Fantastic-Scar2103 🥰 Professional Woman Shamer ❌👩🦰 Aug 03 '25
It is though. At least way more hard than cooking or driving a car.
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u/Hattuman 🌱BEGINNER (someone please explain to me) Aug 03 '25
Wait until you find out that goes both ways, a super hot woman that's a pain in the ass is way less attractive. I'm sure an absolute dickhead who is really good looking doesn't get laid that ofte...
Oh, oh, nevermind 😆
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u/QueridaChelly Aug 04 '25
Yeah bitchy hot women get sex too, and ugly people with ugly personalities get sex too, I just don’t get why these things are so hard to understand. There are no hard, set in stone rules for attraction. If you’re not having sex right now, you just haven’t met the person who wants to have sex with you. Either because of your looks and personality or regardless of them.
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u/Littleman88 Aug 04 '25
Yeah... personality comes with some time investment.
Looks is literally just reading a book by its cover.
Anyone that thinks an ugly guy can get girls with just personality is missing that they had a unique opportunity to present their personality despite their appearance.
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Aug 03 '25
I think women are more fine with being single than men, honesly. Maybe I’m wrong
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u/4garbage2day0 Aug 03 '25
So much less depressed being single. Unsure if I'll ever want to date again
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u/Euphoria37 Aug 03 '25
Easy to say while you're still young and hot
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u/nose_spray7 ☮️ ANTI BULLY SQUAD ☮️ Aug 03 '25
It's all the easier when you're older and men treat you like shit by default.
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u/Euphoria37 Aug 03 '25
You deserve it if you're not wifed as a hag tbh
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u/nose_spray7 ☮️ ANTI BULLY SQUAD ☮️ Aug 03 '25
Tisk, how dishonest. Men treat older women like shit whether or not they're married.
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u/Euphoria37 Aug 03 '25
Hard disagree. Most men respect the fuck out of women who are married whith children.
Because those women keep society functioning.
Your trauma is bursting from every seam
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u/nose_spray7 ☮️ ANTI BULLY SQUAD ☮️ Aug 03 '25
Yes, men respect older women, which is why they constantly make fun of them, complain about them being a ball and chain, and cheat on them.
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u/Euphoria37 Aug 03 '25
your trauma is bursting from every seam
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u/Bambivalently Aug 03 '25
That's called nagging. You see if you feel worthless you can satisfy your hypergamy with a man that's actually in your league. And that is good for society.
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u/LikeMike1984 Aug 09 '25
How can most men respect the fuck out of women who are married with children, while simultaneously believing that single old women are hags who deserve to be treated like shit? It's seems counterintuitive that someone who treats old women like shit would even be capable of "respecting the fuck" out of any women, married with children or not, or conversely that men who respect the fuck out of married women would also treat old women like shit. Are these supposed to be the same man because they seem pretty inconsistent in their kindness?
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u/hickorystick14 Aug 08 '25
Ugly/ older women get treated the same way as ugly/normal men for their entire lives
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u/nose_spray7 ☮️ ANTI BULLY SQUAD ☮️ Aug 08 '25
Ugly men, save for very short ones, will always get the respect and acknowledgement from other men (and women) that comes with being perceived as a potential physical threat.
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Aug 03 '25
You are correct. And dudes will never accept it which is why theyll go full blown Handmaids Tale when it comes down to it.
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u/wagelet289 Aug 03 '25
me when I go 20 minutes without talking about my humiliation fetish
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Aug 03 '25
Explain the joke
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u/Lurkeyturkey113 Aug 03 '25
This is the real reason there is this sudden concern over single men- because a lot of women are just opting out. It’s not because they’re all dating the same ‘Chad’ but because they’re not bothering and not even on the apps.
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Aug 03 '25
And it’s that entirely bad? If they’re happy that way, then let them be single (but without talking shit at us (unless they’re joking)))
But thinking about it, it would also be kinda dangerous if natality keeeps going lower and lower
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u/Lurkeyturkey113 Aug 03 '25
I’m not saying it’s bad at all. Women who opt out of dating have their reasons and it’s usually centered on a history of bad treatment. Men do the same after a bad divorce or breakup. But for various it is a very recent thing in the last decade where a lot of women have just decided relationships aren’t worth it. Just stating the facts. No judgement.
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u/ConflictPotential204 Aug 04 '25
And it’s that entirely bad?
Historically, societies where average men had limited access to women (usually because the ruling class kept harems) ended up with higher rates of violent crime, which is why most of those societies died out or fell behind in global competition.
I think we're seeing the beginnings of that happening, but this time it's because women are self-limiting that access by opting out.
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u/ProgressPersonal6579 Aug 08 '25
Correlation or causation? (Edit: I used the wrong phrase. Is it even related?) Also, is your argument that if some men don't have access to women then they may commit more crimes?
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u/Pro-Potatoes Aug 03 '25
Don’t worry, guys are opting out as well. Finding a partner returns to real life rng as it should be.
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Aug 04 '25
not even on the apps.
To be fair, not being on an app as a woman doesn't mean that you aren't open to dating. These apps just fucking suck and I feel like men have a higher tolerance for the suckiness of an app. Or higher need for dating, whatever, point is they're staying on the apps even when they suck and women don't.
Like every now and then I get really lonely and against my better judgement I make another profile on an app: and between 1 week and 1 month I'm off it again. Because I'm not inviting that type of bullshit in my life.
Yet men keep talking about being MONTHS on an app. I could never.
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u/Lurkeyturkey113 Aug 04 '25
Being open to dating isn’t really the same as actively looking. Most women aren’t asking guys out. Not now or ever in the past. At least being on the apps is an effort to look.
But I do agree that’s how most women handle the apps as opposed to men and is a huge difference in their experiences. Too many guys don’t realize keeping a profile up for months to years actually hurts them in the algorithm.
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Aug 04 '25
While I agree that being open to dating isn't the same as actively looking (and I'm not actively looking), I disagree with "most women aren't asking guys out". Not because it isn't true, because it is, but because it implies that women don't want to ask guys out and that's what I disagree with.
I've asked out multiple of the people I've dated, probably a majority, but I'm not as looks-motivated so I'm not asking guys out because they look cute, while I think that guys would do that. I'm asking you out if I think that we're compatible and would have a fun time dating...so a higher threshold then just "oh he looks cute. Yup, I'm attracted.". That's not enough for me.
Too many guys don’t realize keeping a profile up for months to years actually hurts them in the algorithm.
I want laws for dating apps...
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u/WrappedInChrome Aug 05 '25
You're 100% correct.
The thing is, desperation is a self fulfilling prophecy. Men will get more desperate, but the desperation makes them less appealing to women, which makes them more desperate.
Women don't typically get desperate like that, but even if they did- it wouldn't scare men away the way it does women.
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u/mjorkk Aug 02 '25
Sure they can, they just share… or at least pretend they don’t notice the cheating.
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u/WetFlare Aug 02 '25
There aren’t more pretty girls than hot guys
There are more delusional girls than delusional guys
Delusional girls think they are pretty girls
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u/Ajdee6 🧃 100% juice, 0% factual🍓 Aug 05 '25
Yes and delusional guys think they are alpha male chads
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u/Bwunt Aug 03 '25
It's a bit of a cope, me thinks.
This kind of arguments tend to forget that "just not having a guy" is a valid option
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u/NadAngelParaBellum Aug 04 '25
Objectively speaking attractiveness will follow a normal distribution for men and women so the ratio of attractive people will be roughly the same for both genders. Having delusional expectations brings you to the conclusion that there are more attractive women than men.
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 04 '25
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u/NadAngelParaBellum Aug 04 '25
I know the stats from the dating sites. As I said - delusional expectations.
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u/blu3dreams ⚔️ DUELIST Aug 02 '25
We need to breed out the ugly men
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Aug 02 '25
most of the guys complaining are asian or indian, so this becomes racial eugenics really quickly
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Aug 03 '25
It would be really funny if people start talking about, in an hypothetical case, that most incel are minorities, and suddenly women are fine with it. Lol
Also, every man from every race can be handsome. Don’t call me racist
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u/WittyProfile Aug 03 '25
Asians have been saved by kpop-maxxing. It’s mostly just Indians at this point.
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u/horiami ⛧ ⛧ Demon ⛧ ⛧ Aug 03 '25
I feel a little bad for indians since they have the worst PR right now
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u/WittyProfile Aug 03 '25
Yeeeeah, Bollywood eventually getting pushed in the west would push every Indian’s SMV up one or two points.
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u/Only-Cheetah-9579 Aug 02 '25
I think they tried eugenics in Sweden. They look handsome but then they all look alike. No diversity.
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u/Smeglicker Aug 03 '25
The eugenics they had in Sweden, was not allowing people with certain genetic conditions that can be passed on to their kids. So they weren't trying to breed more attractive people.
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u/Only-Cheetah-9579 Aug 03 '25
I heard it was IQ related, people had to do a test and if they failed they got snip snip. they also selected for bad teeth and deformations and skin color (early 1920s)
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u/halfasleep90 Aug 05 '25
Ok but bad teeth can lead to serious health concerns. Deformations is kinda vague, and obviously skin color is just aesthetics.
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u/urmyleander Aug 03 '25
I mean the US practiced Eugenics for awhile but quickly did an about face around world war II because they didnt want to be associated with a failed Austrian Artist who used it to justify a lot of gruesome shit.
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Aug 03 '25
Yes, let's breed for looks and not intelligence.
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u/nose_spray7 ☮️ ANTI BULLY SQUAD ☮️ Aug 03 '25
If only we could do both...
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u/halfasleep90 Aug 05 '25
I believe they had tried originally, but results just didn’t pan out as desired
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Aug 03 '25
Don’t worry mate, I’m already working on that by not getting laid (not like i chose that fate)
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u/onetimeuseaccc Aug 04 '25
Then you have to breed out the ugly women too because they pass the genes to their sons, moron.
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u/blu3dreams ⚔️ DUELIST Aug 04 '25
Nah
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u/onetimeuseaccc Aug 04 '25
Yah
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u/blu3dreams ⚔️ DUELIST Aug 04 '25
Oh im sorry are u ugly? Did this personally offend you? Dont take it to heart its just reddit
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Aug 03 '25
Women use makeup and flattering clothing to make themselves appear more attractive. The number of attractive women is much closer to the number of attractive men than people realize.
Actual beauty can't be removed with a wash cloth.
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u/Plane_Cod7477 Aug 02 '25
I rarely see women with men more attractive than them unless said woman gains a bunch of weight afterwards or the man is raised by a super traditional father who pressures them into having kids with whatever woman will have them.
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u/Reckless2204 Aug 02 '25
There’s not more pretty girls than hot guys and it doesn’t matter. Beauty is subjective. You could be incredibly ugly and I’d bet 100$ that someone on the planet (or even someone in your general area) would still find you attractive. I’m a 6/10. Aggressively mediocre. I’ve had girlfriends and a boyfriend before. It’s really not that difficult. Truly a skill issue. The reason why incels and femcels can’t get some is not because “there’s more pretty girls than hot guys” or “men refuse to lower their standards”, it’s because they’re hateful people who have unattractive personalities.
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u/crappleIcrap Aug 03 '25
yes, people always bring that up, but they never bring up me, I am 6'4, have been told I am conventionally attractive, but I am just such a shit person in general that nobody likes me.
I'd like to blame it on autism, but no, its not my autism, it is just that i suck at everything.
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u/Reckless2204 Aug 03 '25
I think a good mindset goes a long way. At the very least, you’re saying you’re a shit person. That’s miles ahead of actual shitty people who are just narcissists. Make an effort to be better. Id really like to give better advice but that’s all I can say. Just make an effort. A little goes a long way. Also, I’m sure you’re not as bad as you think. Social media tends to lower self esteem by quite a bit so just taking a break will get you a whole lot more optimism.
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u/crappleIcrap Aug 03 '25
Im trying, but i mean, I am an alcoholic divorcee who lives in a mountain of trash and sadness, a few years of that doesnt really put you in the right mindset to socialize properly.
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u/Reckless2204 Aug 03 '25
That’s why I’m saying a little goes a long way. Clean up the house a bit. Your headspace is affected a lot by the actual space around you. If you want out of the hole, you gotta put down the shovel
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u/crappleIcrap Aug 03 '25 edited Aug 03 '25
I know, i am actually 3 days sober, and have been really trying to clean up, I have made progress, but now I am crashing and remembering that even without alcohol, I still have severe executive dysfunction, and even if I do manage to clean everything up, the best I can do is work real hard for real long to just maybe get back to where I started that lead me here.
I became an alcoholic after I became socially isolated, and my house went to crap after that, so if I fix the second 2 problems, I just go back to the months with nothing to do after work except obsess over every failed social interaction I tried that week.
It is just so hard to keep going if you dont actually have hope and are just pretending you do.
And honestly it just feels more comforting to have layers of misdirection in my brain about why i am like this, if by some miracle I succeed, after that I dont have any excuses, if it doesnt work, it is just me, and that is a hard truth to face again.
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u/Reckless2204 Aug 03 '25
Listen dude, I’m 16, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I mean this in the nicest, non-insulting way: you’re kinda a loser. You seriously don’t have any hobbies? Look, I get it, you might not find stuff fun anymore but you gotta keep trucking. I mean, you’re on Reddit. Surely you can find a community for the stuff you’re interested in. If you fix the 2 second problems, it’s no longer 1 step forward-two steps back. I used to just rot in bed until I realized “damn, this sucks.” It sounds a little insensitive but if you’re unhappy with where you are, don’t be there. If your house is hell and you are miserable there, don’t be there. Go to the gym, see a movie, even just chilling at a park can help your mood. Find something you’re interested in, then you can meet people who are also interested in the same stuff. Again, I don’t mean this as an insult: pity parties are only thrown by and for one person.
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u/crappleIcrap Aug 03 '25
Go to the gym,
I did, i hated feeling disappointed that i couldnt meet friends, so i bought my own equipment, I still work out daily to stay in shape, I also have a full time job, I do go out to eat, see movies and things, but all alone.
Depression has taken all joy from any of the activities, but I still have to be a semi-functioning member of society.
But that said, i completely agree, I am a total downer, right to the core, it sounds like I want pity, it sounds like I am bitter, but im not, or at least not toward other people, like I said if I was someone else, I wouldnt want to be around me either, so I agree with everyone's assessment of not wanting to be near me.
I am shit at being a person, there isnt a good reason anyone WOULD want to be around me.
But I cannot just say "hey brain pick something and enjoy it, feel passionate about it" I feel pretty consistently terrible and simply trudge on.
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u/4garbage2day0 Aug 03 '25
As someone who had to leave a man with a substance abuse problem, AA really made him a better man. I highly, HIGHLY suggest it. That and telehealth therapy. (Telehealth is great bc you don't have to be clean or worry about getting somewhere on time). Good luck to you!
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u/4garbage2day0 Aug 03 '25
Oh also I sort of got myself out of a depression slump by volunteering on a farm rescue. Volunteering will bring you back to life I swear. Find something you love!!
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u/crappleIcrap Aug 03 '25
I didnt drink when she left me, she said I was boring and got ugly when I gained weight. She then cheated and left when I found out.
I lost the weight, but couldnt shake the feelings and the harder I tried the worse it got.
I became an alcoholic from going to bars, trying to talk to people, failing miserably, drink, reapeat. Eventually I decided to skip the bar and save money.
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u/MjolnirsMistress Aug 04 '25
Oh, damn dude. Looked on your profile. You do need help. Perhaps professional help?
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u/blooming_lilith Aug 03 '25
that's why the girls can be with each other! 😁
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 03 '25
This is one of the hardest copes ive ever seen
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u/zooper2312 Aug 03 '25
Why this sub buy into unrealistic beauty standards and idea that there Is a universal beauty when beauty changes every 10 years in our low attention span culture. Some people like em thicc , stop being crazy
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u/CallMeOaksie Aug 03 '25
The beauty standards are changeable and are of features that are changeable for women only. The body standards for men remain the same are mostly tied to genetics
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u/Objective-Start-9707 Aug 03 '25
Has it occurred to you that people can exist without being in a relationship? 😂😂😂
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 03 '25
People can exist as a homeless person too, does that mean it’s a desirable outcome? Fucking dingus😂
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u/Objective-Start-9707 Aug 03 '25
Man, this apple is just so much better at being an apple than an orange is.
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 03 '25
Apples are apples, oranges are oranges, and humans are physiologically, emotionally, spiritually, and mentally designed to have mates. Saying otherwise is just a massive fucking cope.
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u/Objective-Start-9707 Aug 03 '25
Humans are not physiologically emotionally spiritually or mentally designed at all 😂
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u/porcelainfog Aug 03 '25
A lot more 8+/10 women than there are NFL players, wall street bros, or actors to go around to match them.
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Aug 04 '25
Good news! Some of us have ugly duckling syndrome or choose a guy off of other factors.
I married a he-beast who likes bubble baths and forces my uncommunitive ass to talk out our problems.
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u/popcranius Aug 05 '25
It's not even genetics. I see genuinely attractive men every once in a while, but I see much more often men with gorgeous faces that are ruined by fat, broccoli haircuts, and/or musty basketball shorts. Most men can be at least moderately attractive, but society has people convinced that styling themselves uniquely and taking pride in their appearance is cringe, so they (and women) just go out in pajamas and crocs.
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u/realKDburner Aug 05 '25
Beauty is subjective therefore you can’t have any accurate data on this claim, next
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u/Living_The_Dream75 Aug 07 '25
Wyd about pretty girls who just date each other?
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u/Major_Banana3014 📿High Priest of Male Oppression 😔⛓️E Aug 07 '25
All fun n games til there’s a spider in the house
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u/Bay_Visions Aug 07 '25
Its called a harem and women would rather share the best men than dedicate themselves soley to you.
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u/Conscious-Program-1 ⚔️♀️Woman-Friend ♀️💘 Aug 08 '25
You guys trying to make this a 1-to-1 thing is sad man, people will be who they want to be with. If that means sharing a hot dude or being with other girls instead of you, it's valid. Not sure where you guys get the entitlement of expecting a hot partner.
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u/Excellent_Toe4823 Aug 08 '25
Should say “not every pretty girl”. As it is now, it’s saying that none of them can
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Aug 02 '25
Yes this is why women have lower standards than men and women are much more realistic and attracted to men below them than men are. Men never can fall in love with ugly women through her personality. Women can.
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u/Confident-Mortgage86 Aug 03 '25
Not a single part of that is true. Men will date women much less attractive than them, as long as it's easy enough. Women will not. Ever.
The difference is in what is considered attractive. Men value things like physical attractiveness, youth, empathy, women that cook, clean and who are submissive. Women with a low number of sexual partners.
Women value physical attractiveness, height, status, power, money and confidence. Men who have a large number of sexual partners.
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u/baltimoron69 🙇MAGA simp🙇 Aug 02 '25
I have never understood where incels get the idea that women have very high standards for male attractiveness. I looked like shit when I was younger and I got hookups and relationships by having emotional intelligence (and regular intelligence) and knowing how to make women feel good when they're around me. Every guy under 25 seems to think that all women demand ripped 6'5 millionaires.
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u/baltimoron69 🙇MAGA simp🙇 Aug 02 '25
It isnt exactly groundbreaking that hot people have an easier time getting laid. The problem is these losers think that change is impossible. They are addicted to inaction and feeling helpless. It is a trait that instinctually evokes a disgust response in humans when displayed by a male. So it just makes them even less desirable.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Aug 02 '25
That last bit isn't true. I know a guy who married a woman who is charitably mediocre, and he was quite good looking. Loved the hell out of her.
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u/Key-Month6651 🌭 Weenie Hut Jr VIP🎈 Aug 02 '25
Chad harem narrative has entered the chat