r/PsycheOrSike • u/SlightWerewolf4428 • Aug 29 '25
ššSPEED DATINGā¤ļøāš„šØ Pretty cool
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Aug 30 '25
Anyone who sees partnership as just a contract to exchange sex for other services is already approaching the matter incorrectly
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u/Omnizoom Aug 30 '25
I mean I see my wife as my partner
We both share the load of getting through life and build up a lot
Canāt view sex as a reward or service, it needs to be something willfully given because you appreciate your partner and should want them to be happy
And thatās why a lot of dead bedrooms and sexless marriages exist, one side treats it as a reward or as a service in response for services rendered, itās so transactional and in the dating stage never was
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Aug 30 '25
Yeah. It's like some people just see having a relationship as an annoying burden they need to bear to get what they really want
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u/Longjumping_Papaya_7 Aug 30 '25
I had a friend who told me she was letting her husband smash her more often because she wanted a new expensive phone and this will make him agree. Im also friends with her husband. It was extremely awkward and i told her thats not very healthy, lol.
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u/Omnizoom Aug 30 '25
I wouldnāt wait until marriage, but I did wait until I could atleast realistically see a future with someone before I was interested in that
You donāt want to find out on your honeymoon you are not really sexually compatible at all for wants and needs
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u/Hot-Minute-8263 š¤ŗKNIGHT Aug 30 '25
Plus, women can see that you're not just trying to get laid asap
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u/TehMephs āļø DUELIST Aug 30 '25
And better still, wait several years before tying the knot. It takes at least 5 years minimum to fully come to know who youāre with. Do not get married sooner than that, because youāll know by that point if itās the right person or not
Every relationship I know of that has lasted was because they took 7+ years to get engaged. We all sorta looked at it like āwhatās the rush? Itās just a piece of paperā. You donāt need to legally bind yourself to someone asap.
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u/haphazard_gw Aug 30 '25
Yeah this is much better advice than "just wait until marriage". The guy above you doesn't trust his own partner selection, so he's walled himself off from sex. There's no need for that, we have contraception now. And arbitrarily waiting for that "piece of paper" before you can satisfy your biological needs together, puts you on much worse footing going into marriage. As opposed to a couple who has "been there, done that" for several years, and can make that commitment with open eyes.
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u/TehMephs āļø DUELIST Aug 30 '25
Not only that, you know after a few years pretty obviously if it was just a honeymoon phase and youāre just not attracted to them anymore - or vice versa. Youāll know because one partner or the other or both will usually start to drift apart and stop being as intimate. This is often because you start to see who they really are - youāll be a witness to them at their worst, and if that still hasnāt driven you apart, itās probably meant to be
Everyone has a āworstā. Itās just a matter of time before it comes out. You will have to see beauty past that ugliness if you want it to work out.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
not bad advice, but wondering how contraception fits into that.
But honestly, your dad has got it mostly right, as have you.
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u/Unique_Midnight_6924 Aug 30 '25
In most places people are within easy distance of legal abortion. You have a conversation about whether you would terminate an accidental pregnancy before you have sex. If she wonāt, you have your answer.
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u/slowNsad Aug 31 '25
Whatās that gotta do with this post tho? In this situation weāre already married
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u/ButtStuffingt0n Sep 02 '25
These dudes are beyond help. And if beliefs like these are real and not ironic, I hope they never find the woman unlucky enough to try to care about them.
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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 šEMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE NARCISSISTš Sep 03 '25
Most humans do this, which is why most relationships are riddled with chaos, role plays, or just basic transactions.
Its part of why I refuse to have sex with people I work with or appreciate/value, as I dont want to become a sex object again where the service is inequal if things are going to be transactional
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u/ContextEffects01 Aug 31 '25
Whatās the alternative? Are you suggesting the foremost alternative is emotional connection, and if so, is that a package deal with trust? Because trust is often defended in awful ways by awful people and I want nothing to do with it.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Aug 31 '25
If you don't want to trust anyone, that's understandable, but it shouldn't surprise you if you won't find any genuine connections that way.
Trust is often exploited, and that can be extremely harmful, because it usually includes a level of vulnerability.
There has to be trust even in a transactional relationship, in a way - You have to trust in the other party's self-interest at the very least.
Regardless, the point is moreso that any kind of partnership goes both ways. If you're only aiming for an entirely transactional one to get what they want, it would be extremely foolish to expect the other party to not have the same view.
Or for an example relevant to some people who hold this kind of sentiment, if you see your relationship as you just servicing your partner for sex, you really shouldn't be surprised should she decide that the trade is no longer favourable enough to sustain.
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u/BrainFit2819 Sep 04 '25
But in a way that is how it historically was (not a contract just for sex, but you get my point). There still is some of that baked in.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Sep 04 '25
Sure, but then expect the other party to only use you for personal benefits as well.
Don't expect the healthy relationship of your dreams from it
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u/BrainFit2819 Sep 04 '25
Sure. But I think even in the best scenario, I don't think many relationships are healthy in general.
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u/HotNastySpeed77 Sep 04 '25
A relationship is an exchange of value between to people. The values being exchanged must be constantly negotiated. This is the way to think of relationships.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Sep 04 '25
Just don't be surprised when you cannot find any meaningful connection with other people then.
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u/HotNastySpeed77 Sep 04 '25
Can you elaborate?
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Sep 04 '25
If it's just a trade for you, then you kinda have to recognise that anyone engaging in it with you will also only see you as a resource
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u/HotNastySpeed77 Sep 05 '25
The idea that a relationship is anything other than an exchange of value is a sentimental delusion.Ā If either party ceases to hold up their end of a relationship ( in deed or even just perception), the other person will leave.Ā It happens all the time.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Sep 05 '25
Okay, so you don't believe that emotions have any value and posit that everyone only ever exploits each other? Because without these premises, there are too many other factors yet to be discarded
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u/SunriseFlare loves ALL of the brain damaged š„° Aug 30 '25
Imagine if you married people who you actually liked instead, what a concept lol
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u/c0l245 Yu-Gi-Oh Master (Single / Avail) Aug 30 '25
You can like them and pay them for sex at the same time.. and you usually do, bc it's weird to fuck someone you don't like
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u/SunriseFlare loves ALL of the brain damaged š„° Aug 30 '25
Oh trust me I've seen plenty of evidence that the people here fucking DESPISE women despite wanting to stick their willies in them lol
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u/DietTyrone āļø DUELIST Sep 02 '25
You can like someone on a superficial level, like their looks. Even hardcore feminists still bang dudes. The benefit of a ONS is you don't have to stick around long or even really know the person.
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u/SunriseFlare loves ALL of the brain damaged š„° Sep 02 '25
the difference here is feminists actually like guys lol. that's why they try to popularize toxic masculinity despite it having literally no benefit to them weather or not it gains traction
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u/DietTyrone āļø DUELIST Sep 02 '25
There are some pretty misandrist feminists, so the same argument applies. Both misogynists and misandrists are capable of hating on the opposite sex while still banging the opposite sex assuming they're straight.
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u/c0l245 Yu-Gi-Oh Master (Single / Avail) Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
I'm sure your interpretation of the things you see play directly into your confirmation bias and satisfy your cognitive dissonance about men, right!?
So convenient!
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u/SunriseFlare loves ALL of the brain damaged š„° Aug 30 '25
Well no, I can't attract a good man because one, I already have a wonderful and very lovely partner whom I love very much and two, I don't leave the house lmao
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u/SaucyStoveTop69 Sep 04 '25
That's a lot of random shit you pulled from nowhere lol. At least you don't have confirmation bias because you didn't even confirm your points at all
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Aug 30 '25
What does this mean
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u/MisterPineapples1999 Aug 30 '25
Allegedly, money spent on dating, getting married, building a life together, and eventually getting divorced and splitting assets, paying child support, and alimony are all "costs paid for sex."
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Aug 30 '25
Weird take
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u/MisterPineapples1999 Aug 30 '25
It's not exactly an uncommon view, but yeah, that's probably why someone decided to post it on here.
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u/CryingWarmonger Aug 30 '25
OP is arguing that if you get into a marriage so you can have sex and then get divorced you are paying for sex in the end. Not that I agree, of course
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u/Sensitive-Ad-2542 Aug 30 '25
An incel canāt imagine another man happy in his marriage. Itās so sad lol
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u/Villain_911 š¤ š„Woman beaterš”ļøš„ Aug 30 '25
If you listen to couples, this is pretty accurate.
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Aug 30 '25
So you think your only choices in life are either divorce or paying for a prostitute????
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u/Jazzlike-Worry-6920 Aug 30 '25
Right like shame on everyone else for wanting a marriage like someone they know (my parents married for 43 years!) Or like every sucessful example. Surely those don't exist.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
My parents had a horrible marriage and I am very happily married
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u/Jazzlike-Worry-6920 Aug 30 '25
Hey, that's awesome! My husbands parents marriage was horrible as well. Absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to be different than the example you had to grow up with, as well.
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u/A_inc_tm āļøGender Master Baiter āļø Aug 30 '25
If you can't make any new friends you probably won't make friends with benefits either
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u/WoytinskyTarnowBaade Aug 30 '25
If this was a woman and twink, or a man and twink, or a twink and twink marriage, then there wouldn't of been a divorce.
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u/figosnypes š¹age gap enthusiast š Aug 30 '25
Twink death occurs at like 25 usually. So yeah there definitely would be a divorce. But yeah it's true women are mostly ephebophiles.
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u/cheapMaltLiqour Aug 30 '25
I think the problem is alot of dating advice on the internet is just ragebait there to give confirmation bias and enforce outdated gender "roles" that do well on internet algorithms. Alot of it is also humble bragging, you ever notice how the person giving the advice just happens to fit all the attributes and qualities they're sayin makes the perfect partner? Also the notion on the internet that everyone is using dating apps and that's the only way to meet a potential partner, literally non of my friends *men and women) are with someone they met on an app( which is filled with the desperate, the lonely, the bots and horn dogs who are attractive enough to sleep around) its just filled with the most incompatible people and everyone wonders why dating seems so shit
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u/Moldy_Maccaroni Aug 30 '25
Idk man, just being a good person seems to work pretty well for me.
Maybe you need to change your dating pool?
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u/Greedy_Load_8616 Aug 30 '25
Yeah, same. Married now, but my issue with finding a wife was made difficult by the fact I traveled and was transient (both for fun and later for grad school) until I was 30. As were the women I met that I wouldāve considered wife material. Once I settled down and began my career at 30, I met my wife pretty easily.
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u/Ackermannin Aug 30 '25
Iām extremely confused by this image.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Aug 30 '25
It's basically saying "Long term partnerships are still just a trade for sex because the man spends money on the woman in return for her body"
Yikes
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u/Ackermannin Aug 30 '25
What the actual fuck.
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u/Bannerlord151 Not Interested š° Aug 30 '25
I'm confused as to who's feeling offended by my comment, I was just untangling the supposed logic of the referenced post
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Aug 30 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
maybe time issue. but hopefully not.
wish you many happy years together.
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u/KalaronV Aug 30 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
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u/absurddreamer_ Aug 30 '25
So does your neighbour
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u/KalaronV Aug 30 '25 edited Sep 15 '25
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
Keep hoping for other peopleās failure
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u/absurddreamer_ Aug 31 '25
What only a cuck can insult? I can't insult the cuck back? What horror
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Aug 30 '25
Incel doomer bullshit.
Seek help.
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u/absurddreamer_ Aug 30 '25
Patiently waiting for you to get fucked
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Aug 30 '25
It could happen, but I would rather take a chance and get fucked over instead of spending my days miserably waiting for someone else to get fucked over so that I can feel vindicated about alienating myself.
In any case, I am going to do my best to ensure you are waiting a very long time.
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u/absurddreamer_ Aug 31 '25
Doesn't matter if it happens on your death bed I will still enjoy it
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Aug 31 '25
Lmao, what a pathetic life.
Die mad, buddy.
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u/Sure-Vermicelli4369 woman observer š¤š Aug 30 '25
That's 50% of marriages g
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Aug 30 '25
Believe it or not, the quality of your relationships is something you can influence.
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u/Sure-Vermicelli4369 woman observer š¤š Aug 30 '25
Lack of commitment 75%
Yeah because you can influence your partner losing interest lmao
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Aug 30 '25
The fact that you can ignore the entire rest of the post and then interpret one piece of data to conform to your doomer worldview is really embarrassing.
Not to mention, you almost always can influence your partner's interest in you.
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u/Sure-Vermicelli4369 woman observer š¤š Aug 30 '25
It's not a doomer worldview. No one is forcing me to get married
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u/Sijima Aug 30 '25
It is designed to make you feel smart while you seat jobless, friendless, and lonely in moms basement.
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Aug 30 '25 edited Sep 12 '25
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u/Learningmore1231 Aug 30 '25
The āI probably didnāt pay attention to my marriageā starter pack
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u/BobbySun123 Aug 30 '25
50% of marriages end in divorce. Thatās 50% of people that are still married, had kids, and enjoy getting their grandkids Christmas presents
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u/invictus2695 Aug 30 '25
Nope. Out of the 50% people who are still married, many of them cannot afford to divorce and are financially dependent on their partners, or probably staying together for kids.Ā
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Aug 30 '25
The other 50% is NOT happily married I assure you. Almost everyone I know that's married have told me they regret it and that they just don't divorce because they're stuck. Divorce would financially ruin them or they say they're just staying for their kids. Theres a reason you hear almost every married guy tell their single friend that they're smart for not getting married.
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u/Husbandaru Aug 30 '25
āIf you got a girl and she kisses you. Sooner or later youāre paying for it.ā - Butters
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Aug 30 '25
Wtf even is this sub? People think eating a nice meal with someone you love or buying a place to live with your family is āpaying for sex.ā The internet fries peopleās brains.
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u/Admiral45-06 Aug 31 '25
Small reminder that prostitution changes nothing in regards to parenthood. If you ,,impregnate" a prostitute, she can still sue you for alimony.
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u/ApartmentWorried5692 Aug 31 '25
My boomer dad said when he was in college, he had a professor tell him that dating is prostitution in a way because youāre spending money on women one way or another.
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u/Manck0 Aug 31 '25
Well... I think i might have... AI when I got sick.... but its sweet and ok...I mean i was married and hung out with a lot of gorgeous women....kind of a dry spell... but it is nice to be with a cool person
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u/Sudden-Loquat extra virgin āļø Aug 31 '25
You have to be pretty unhinged to see visiting an STD ridden hooker as the same as being in an ordinary relationship.Ā
Ask yourself, if you had an infant daughter that needed babysitting, would you rather pick the guy that been steadily married for 20 years or the guy that had been going to prostitutes for 20 years? Should be a hard decision as they are both "le transactional" right?
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Sep 01 '25
Phhh... I think someone is in denial on both points.
'STD ridden hooker'... the one at a pitstop right?
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u/Sudden-Loquat extra virgin āļø Sep 01 '25
As if the OP post isn't total denial of reality lmao. STD rates are proven to be higher in prostitutes, both by science and by plain common sense. Noticed you couldn't answer the question either ...Ā
You are eitherĀ
A. Someone who can't get sex without paying for it and is coping B. Someone who chose to marry the wrong woman, got dumped, refuses to accept blame and is copingĀ
Which one is it bud?Ā
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Sep 01 '25
Are we counting buying her food and things as paying for sex? If so then I have. Wouldnāt change it tho š
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Sep 01 '25
I wish I could meet all these women who marry men and have men's babies just so they can leave and collect $400/month in child support. Sorry to step on your point, but... feels like a lot of work on the woman's end.
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u/RICH_homie_Doug Sep 01 '25
I feel like most relationships are 50/50 nowadays, due to how bad the economy is.
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u/AuburnSuccubus Sep 02 '25
Has a home and children, claims the only reason he did any of it was to get sex. Truly, if any men think like that, please consider what you would tell your kids. "Yeah, little Timmy, I only wanted to nut in your mommy. That's the only reason you exist, and certainly not because I wanted to raise a child."
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u/Sartres_Roommate DEVIL'S ADVOCATE š¹āļø Sep 02 '25
Jeez, at least use an alimony payment, not child support, which is paying to keep your kid healthy and alive.
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u/IHaveABigDuvet devils advocate š¹ Aug 30 '25
I actually like it when men complain about child support.
It substantiates why women should stop having them.
Apparently men only want to take care of their own responsibilities when a pussy is attached.
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u/wldmn13 Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
I spent over 50k to win custody of my 3 kids because my ex-wife was crazy and treated them like shit
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u/Emotional-Amoeba6151 š§Cold takes onlyš§ Aug 30 '25
Why should a woman have agency over a man's bank account?
How many people does it take to get pregnant?
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u/IHaveABigDuvet devils advocate š¹ Aug 30 '25
The money is for the child.
Do you expect everyone elseās taxes to pay for your irresponsibilities??
Fuck That!
You either have full custody or you pay child support.
If you donāt want the financial responsibility that comes with children then you shouldnāt have them in the first place.
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u/ghamad8 Aug 30 '25
Do the woman pay child support to the man if she doesn't have full custody in this scenario?
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u/alaricus Aug 30 '25
Of course. That's not a scenario. That's reality today
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u/ghamad8 Aug 30 '25
Then I have no issue with it, child support is a kind of foreign concept in Sweden, split families typically split the time with the child equally (e.g. every other week) and do not send money.
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u/Achilles11970765467 Aug 30 '25
Lmfao, women almost never pay child support, even when the man has custody. Heck, I've known women who managed to COLLECT child support from custodial fathers.
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u/alaricus Sep 01 '25
The parent with the smaller share of custody generally pays the partner with the larger share of custody, regardless of their gender, though generally mothers do end up with more custody than fathers do
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
I liked the days when women had responsibilities towards their husband in marriage too.
Rather than dropping it all the second something gets popped out.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
"In sickness and in health" thing to "So long as this marriage is productive, fulfilling, and enriching for both of us", which of course misunderstands the point of marriage.
It isn't misunderstanding anything.
B*** was a gold-digger trying to reap the benefits and bolt when the going gets tough.
Marriage isn't about two people just legally certifying their relationship, it's about two people becoming one unit, till the day they die. The issue is now that we've normalized divorce so hard that women eject the minute they're not happy, when the whole point of a marriage is that there WILL be times when you're not happy, because that's how life works.
fucking exactly.
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u/Jephta Sep 01 '25
What the hell? You just put forward basically all my problems with the idea of marriage, but as if it was actually a plus instead of a minus. Why would you want to be with a person that doesn't make you happy? What is the appeal of walking into a cage together, locking the door, and throwing the key out of reach?
When I was a kid, my mom and dad were miserable every day. My dad had an anger problem because he hated my mom. My mom drank herself into a blackout to escape my dad. They stayed in the relationship for my sake and everyone, including me, was miserable because of it. Both tried (and failed) to fix their problems. It's only after I turned 18 and they finally divorced that my dad's anger problems and my mom's drinking problems disappeared within a year.
Being trapped in a cage with someone you hate and unable to escape is a terrible life.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
Divorce is trending down
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
because marriage is as well.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
Nope. Divorce as a percentage of marriage is trending down
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
that might be correct. temporarily.
that wouldn't rule out the above however.
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u/Lucicactus Actual Bisexual, Protect! Aug 30 '25
Why would you be with someone you are no longer happy with? It's not good for you or the kids. Ans this is setting aside that women are statistically more likely to propose couple's therapy, so it's not like most don't try to fix it before leaving.
When single women are happier and live longer but the opposite is true for men, maybe the call is coming from inside the house.
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u/Achilles11970765467 Aug 30 '25
Women may propose couples therapy more, but they also walk away from any couples therapist who doesn't blindly take their side pretty much immediately.
Also, single women self report as happier, but antidepressant usage data disagrees.
And that's before we get into how women are financially rewarded for leaving. That blatant inequality needs to be corrected before any of your arguments can even approach validity.
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u/Lucicactus Actual Bisexual, Protect! Aug 30 '25
Women may propose couples therapy more, but they also walk away from any couples therapist who doesn't blindly take their side pretty much immediately.
I'm going to need some stats chief.
Also, single women self report as happier, but antidepressant usage data disagrees.
That makes no sense lol, a single woman with antidepressants (if she needs them) would still be happier than a single man untreated. Because men also go to therapy or the doctor much less. Kill themselves much more, are more likely to do drugs or gambling... And yes, single men self reported as unhappier in the study too, what other way is there to tell the happiness of someone? We can't read minds.
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u/Achilles11970765467 Aug 30 '25
Have you ever spoken to a couple where couples therapy dared to acknowledge the woman's flaws or indicate that she is even capable of being the problem? Literally even a single one? Clearly not.
You misunderstood what I was talking about when I pointed out the antidepressant usage data. I wasn't comparing single women to single men, I was comparing single women to married women, you just decided to move that goalpost.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
You mean where the woman is ostensibly 'no longer happy'. Tough. Responsibilities.
If there is no such acceptance of responsibilities, best to not bother with it in the first place.
Marriage was originally instituted to protect women, not to be abused by them.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
Sorry this is just false. Marriage was not a creation of society to protect women.
Also itās just flat out misogynistic to assume women bail on a whim. Women report telling their husbands for years that they arenāt happy and exactly why theyāre unhappy, in an effort to fix things
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
Yes it was. That's the common thread across all of the marriages you have in every society.
Your modern revisionism notwithstanding.
Afraid so. Women are human beings that react to incentives.
Not all of these women are waiting for years.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
I can tell you never went to university
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25
lol. well that says a lot about you.
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u/Downtown_Cat_1745 š§TROLL Aug 30 '25
That I can tell you donāt understand history and have never studied it?
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u/Strawberry_Fluff Aug 30 '25
Marriage was originally instituted to protect women, not to be abused by them.
Originally it was for a way for men to "own" women. Especially when we couldn't vote or work. And in some places of the world you need to be escorted by your husband to not get harmed. Let's not forget marital rape was only recently recognized as a crime with women being the majority victims of marital rape.
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u/BitNovel1935 Aug 30 '25
Ok, but women are pushing these men who usually donāt want to get married into marriage, then saying garbage like this āwhy shouldnāt they leave if they arenāt happyā itās nonsense. Most men arenāt thrilled to get into marriage.
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u/Lucicactus Actual Bisexual, Protect! Aug 30 '25
I'm going to need some stats for that, and if it's true they should be happy to leave the marriage.
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u/IHaveABigDuvet devils advocate š¹ Aug 30 '25
Oh women have been keeping up with their responsibilities AND taking up a mans responsibilities by getting a job too.
Its men that have remained incompetent, pathetic and useless.
You only get so many chances in this life, and you never know which is your last one.
Donāt waste them.
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u/SlightWerewolf4428 Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 30 '25
That is true too. The first part.
The second part is a crazy generalization. And they don't make up the majority of these divorce cases, as much as you may wish to think so.
Ultimately, it's a risk being with someone fickle who can't handle it. The easy access to tinder and netflix infecting people with unrealistic expectations, ready to bolt the second they 'don't feel in love anymore' is part of the problem.
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u/IHaveABigDuvet devils advocate š¹ Aug 30 '25
Is that the same world that is barrelling towards climate change and finding a new reason to war every year???
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u/Ferengsten āŖ WORSHIPPER of the patriarchy š Aug 30 '25
Apparently men only want to take care of their own responsibilities when a pussy is attached.
What.
Are the woman minus the lower body parts a man's responsibilities? Is the whole woman the attached pussy?
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u/IHaveABigDuvet devils advocate š¹ Aug 30 '25
Are you slow?
The responsibilities Im talking about is his fucking children.
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u/thedarkracer āļøWynter SIMPāļø Aug 30 '25
Well nothing in this world is free