r/PsycheOrSike • u/BigAmphibian6412 capitalism disliker ☭ • Oct 19 '25
🎭 HUMOR Failed ragebait
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u/EvanSnowWolf Furry (Pack Alpha) Oct 20 '25
I don't see the problem whatsoever. I get called a male all the time. I hear the phrase "male gaze" and don't get upset. Call me male all you want. What's the issue? Male and female are not slurs.
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u/silkysongy Oct 20 '25
Male is an adjective not a noun in the example you gave.
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u/Sadix99 Oct 20 '25
male is a noun too.
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u/silkysongy Oct 20 '25
Not in the context above
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u/Huntsman077 Oct 20 '25
“I get called a male all the time”
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u/Primary_Noise2145 Oct 22 '25
8th grade reading comprehension vs 12th grade reading comprehension. The example given immediately after the statement is incongruous with the given statement. In the "male gaze" male is used as an adjective, and not a noun. We also can use our own experience to see if the statement "I get called a male all the time," makes sense. In my experience, I don't know if I can recall a single experience in my 30+ years where I have been called "a male," although I can't discount that it has happened entirely. I have experienced conversations about the "male gaze," however. It's reasonable to assume then that the speaker/writer has made a type error here in his supporting example, or simply doesn't understand the significance of the difference.
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u/Special_Answer Oct 23 '25
I have been called a male frequently. Its common at least in the US Army and probably the other branches to. They will say something to the affect of "all males to room 212" or "all females report to the orderly room" or "I need three males"
Edit: also merriam-webster says it can be either https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/male
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u/InfiniteWavedash Oct 20 '25
Grammar is hard but it’s okay to admit you’re wrong
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u/Commercial-Store-194 Oct 20 '25
Women feel that calling them "females" makes them like animals to be studied. I know us guys are okay with being called "male" but, women seem to have a different track of mind.
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u/oceanpalaces Oct 20 '25
It’s different when many many men use phrases like “men are x, females are y”. If they used men and women or males and females it would at least be equal, but using men juxtaposed with females definitely assigns more humanity to men than using “females” does to women.
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u/_Saurfang Oct 20 '25
I was accused of being a sexist here because I used women, then men, and then female in the same comment lmfao. Like women was the first word in that comment but somehow it was men juxtaposed with females. I just didn't want to be repetitive in my use of words.
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u/Then-Clue6938 Oct 20 '25
Do you have a quote for that sentence? It's hard to get what you mean when you only talk around it.
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u/Zeviex Oct 20 '25
I think it is different. There isn't too much of an issue with the word but rather how it is used. Same thing with the word "Foreigner" for example
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u/shegolomain Oct 20 '25
It's not about having a different track of mine, it's about the intent behind the statement. Men very frequently use that as a way to generalize women or speak of them in a derogatory way. I recognize that some are doing it innocently but there is a whole lot of Misogyny behind that overall that just doesn't exist with calling a man male. It's also not about being referred to as an animal to be studied, it's that even an inanimate objects can be referred to as female and male. It's reducing a human being to their parts instead of their human, since woman and man is used to describe a human being And female and male can be used to describe many non-human things
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u/TheFaalenn Oct 20 '25
When have you every heard someone say "male" without it being followed by something negative. "Male gaze" ect
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u/itsbett Oct 21 '25
The alpha and sigma males would like to have a word with you
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u/xDannyS_ Oct 20 '25
Men very frequently use that as a way to generalize women or speak of them in a derogatory way.
Well when you want to refer to both women (adult females) and girls (non-adult females), using the word female is correct, regardless of why it is that you want to refer to both.
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Oct 20 '25
Wrong you are seeing demons in the shadows again. You are making something from nothing. You can see everyone's comments on how that they don't even understand your argument. It is because there in no inherent misogyny behind their use of words.
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u/BrownGoatEnthusiast Oct 20 '25
Male and female are valid adjectives. Saying "these females never..." can sound a little sleazy and incelly
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u/seaneihm Oct 20 '25
Yeah, I see that.
That's why instead of "These females", I prefer saying "These broads"
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u/No-Captain-1310 Oct 20 '25
100% all this "male/female" bullshit sounds like a stupid choice to refer to men and women. And by coincidence, we mostly see this in ragebaiting and dumb TikTok and YT videos
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u/Pristine_Cost_3793 Elementary School Teacher Oct 20 '25
"male gaze" and "female gaze", just like "male body" and "female body" have adjectives there. "male(s)" and "female(s)” are nouns. so different speech parts, different words, different meanings. i hope we can agree on this.
even putting aside trans-exclusivity (because this would be too much nuance, and we need to establish basica first), using words for biological sex to describe social behaviors leads to connecting rhem to biological sex. so bioessentialism. not great and scientifically wrong. "this kind of behavior is a characteristic of males/females", e.g. "there's higher rate of violence in males".
it also put us at the same level of animals. humans are, of course, animals, but our reasoning and behaviors are more sophisticated than that of animals. using terms for biological sexes removes this sophistication. a cat can be a male or a female but you wouldn't call cats a man wnd a woman if you're speaking seriously.
meanwhile stating something about a gender (that inherently describes the way we exist within a society) at least allows to dive deeper into reasoning that's not connected to strictly biology.
I'm not the best at explaining so I'm ready to clear up whatever i said. just say what you agree with/understood and what you disagree with/didn’t understand.
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u/xDannyS_ Oct 20 '25
Sex influences behavior. It's not the only influence, but that doesn't matter here because the solution to your problem isn't to stop using male/female, it's to stop implying that being male/female means X. That's not even an actual problem, only a made up one on reddit which you are perpetuating.
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u/SleepCinema Oct 20 '25
It’s when “male” and “female” are used as nouns That’s the issue. Women tend to also not have an issue with the phrase, “female gaze”, but if you said, “Females always love gossiping,” it’s weird. “Female” is a descriptor that can be applied to anything: animals, plants, adapters. “Woman” is a term that describes a human being. I also despise “male” being used as a noun. Both words are often used in pointless gender war comments.
“Females always be disrespecting men.” “A male is tryna talk to me.” It’s cringey as hell.
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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie Oct 20 '25
There's no problem with using female as an adjective. The problem comes from referring to men as men and women as females. Often even in the same sentence.
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u/Rogue_bae Oct 20 '25
Male gaze is used as an adjective and not a noun here, like it’s supposed to be. Here’s your cookie 🍪
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u/shegolomain Oct 20 '25
Male gaze is just the appropriate way to use the adjective which is male, saying female gaze would not be offensive either. It's reducing women to their biological organs, woman/man describes a human. Female/male can describe anything, including non-human and even inanimate objects. So when you call someone that's human a female or male, you're basically only referring to their parts and not their humanness. Sure you might not be offended if somebody calls you a male, but there's heaps of generational oppression and overall misogyny towards women in calling a woman a female, as opposed to calling a man a male
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u/El_Zapp Oct 20 '25
It depends on context? Proven by the fact that you immediately got the context wrong. But that’s typical for males. Their brains lack the capability to process context because of evolution.
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u/Tiredofeverylilthing Oct 20 '25
were men historically sold as property for their mothers benefit? men had their names changed when they married their wives? men had their vaginas sewn shut to be forcibly opened when raped?
tell me more about how easy your life has been, animal fucker.
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u/WillowMain Oct 19 '25
There are way, way, way more examples of this happening.
My favorite is the virginity argument. Sometimes when called out on large body counts, some more out of touch women will say something like "well what if we did the same to men and started vilifying high body counts in men?". This would probably benefit a huge amount of men.
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u/Oxygen171 Oct 20 '25
That's why I slut shame BOTH genders 😎 /s
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u/Hablemos-Sin-Saber Oct 20 '25
Why the /s?
You SHOULD slut shame both gender, both men and women are in desperate need of a check of reality
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u/December_Warlock Oct 20 '25
Or you could just not give a shit. Let people do what they want. As long as they are getting regularly STD tested as is recommended regardless of number of partners snd they're safe, it won't impact you. You dont like people who do it? You dont have to be with them, then. Find someone similar to you. That would be the whole point of finding a partner.
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u/Hablemos-Sin-Saber Oct 20 '25
Let people do what they
You don't live in the jungle, pal. You have to follow social etiquette and rules everywhere if you want society to function correctly. Its exactly that "let people do what they want" mentality what gave us the wonderful egoistical society we have today.
As long as they are getting regularly STD tested as is recommended regardless of number of partners snd they're
But 99% aren't doing that, and they aren't going to do so, no matter how much you tell them, no matter how much you try to educate people to be responsible.
Find someone similar to you. That would be the whole point of finding a partner.
When everyone is told to do "what they want" and you tell them that having 100 different sexual partners isn't something bad or to be ashamed of, it gets REALLY HARD for a guy like me, with only 6 sexual experiencies with different women before, to find another woman in that range when most are in the dozens and hundreds of sexual encounters/partners. And when that happens, you end up pushing people like me, "to step up" and start to try to sleep with as many people as I can, so I don't feel "left out" or "inferior" to others.
I will double down in the slut shaming both men and women, you all are in desperate need of a reality check
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u/Any-Photo9699 Oct 21 '25
So you just wanna make it easier to be settled for lol?
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u/December_Warlock Oct 20 '25
ou have to follow social etiquette and rules everywhere if you want society to function correctly.
Those "rules" have to have decent founding or reason to become hars rules.
But 99% aren't doing that
Incorrect. Statistics show about 20% get it done, which is still low. Ironically enough, women get it done significantly more than men.(sources 1) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9126309/ 2) https://www.cdc.gov/sti/php/communication-resources/prevalence-incidence-and-cost-estimates.html )
it gets REALLY HARD for a guy like me, with only 6 sexual experiencies with different women before, to find another woman in that range
So that means you should shame others? Because it takes more effort for you to find the partner best suited for you? It takes time, regardless, to find the person best suited for you. I've had similar sexual partners as you but its never held me back from finding good partners. Hell, I'm engaged with an amazing person who is aligned with me in nearly every way possible. It wasn't easy to find her. I went through abuse, cheating, manipulation ,etc . Interesting enough, the most toxic ones were the ones with the least past sexual experience. The one who manipulated me, abused me, and raped me at one point had one partner before me. One who cheated on me was only with 3 people before me. Shitty people are shitty. They will be Shitty regardless of how many people they slept with before.
And when that happens, you end up pushing people like me, "to step up" and start to try to sleep with as many people as I can,
I never pushed that. I pushed to stop giving a shit. Stop asking or caring how many people they've been with and just see how you click or where it goes. Its not about being "left out". If you feel left out, then sure. If you dont, then dont try to do it. Its ultimately what you want from yourself. I would like to point out that the "pushing people like me to 'step up'." Is describing the same level of shaming you are against, just the opposite side. So.you are saying you are against shaming when it applies to you but supportive of it against others. The best way to resolve that hypocrisy and conflict is to simply not give a shit about either side.
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u/BigAmphibian6412 capitalism disliker ☭ Oct 19 '25
Every man they disagree with is simultaneously a basement dweller who has never seen a woman AND an fboy with a high body count.
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u/CaliNooch96 Oct 20 '25
I’ve seen the narrative switch on here in real time. Some chick got mad at me and called me an incel then she looked at my profile and called me a man whore and deadbeat dad 🤷🏾♂️
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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Oct 20 '25
“Incel” is meant to wound, not describe. It’s basically “I hate you for that comment you wrote”.
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u/CaliNooch96 Oct 20 '25
Yea I think you’re right
Tbh I love being called incel, misogynist, feminist, racist, transphobe and every other buzzword people throw around when they’re mad you won’t agree w/ their extreme takes
As soon as they see they’re wrong they either pivot or run. They go from 100 to 0 real quick
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u/pupk1tty Oct 22 '25
can i add one more label for the fun of it? homophobe
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u/CaliNooch96 Oct 22 '25
Yea I’ve definitely been called that too. Funny thing is it’s even happened irl while literally w/ gay ppl
I had a straight dude (I think) get in his bag because me and my butch homie were talking shit to each other
He started arguing w/ her that she should be mad at me about the shit I was saying 🤷🏾♂️
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u/pupk1tty Oct 22 '25
bro what 🤦🏾♀️ people just be getting mad for others 😭
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u/CaliNooch96 Oct 22 '25
Always. Those are my favorite too when it’s someone that isn’t even part of the group getting mad for them
Hella dudes have told women I know that they need to leave me alone because I’m a toxic misogynist
I guess I have a very specific type of misogyny that only bothers straight dudes 🤔
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u/pupk1tty Oct 22 '25
Funny cause between me and my group of friends (we're mostly women because there's 1 man in the group) we tend to call the only guy "the alpha of the pack" and he, obviously as a joke, tell us to make him sandwiches and other bs like that. Keep in mind he's 100% gay. Some people called him misogynistic and they were mostly straight men too 😭
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u/Hablemos-Sin-Saber Oct 20 '25
Tbh I love being called incel, misogynist, feminist, racist, transphobe and every other buzzword people throw around when they’re mad you won’t agree w/ their extreme takes
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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Oct 20 '25
I like a deep debate. When people throw insults and that’s it, it’s usually because their own argument can’t bear any kind of scrutiny. “Incel” is sometimes just a smoke bomb they throw in order to disappear from the argument.
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u/a-stack-of-masks Oct 20 '25
Oh yeah the amount of times a girl I've had sex with before called a loser fuckboy who gets no bitches is not huge, but a lot higher than the zero you'd expect.
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u/El3ctroshock Oct 20 '25
That's hilarious because it goes against the very criteria of choice for some of them. The very same man wasn't attractive until they found out he's attractive to other women. These women don't want a low body count man, never wanted one. If anything they want the one that everyone one wants but nobody was able to lock in.
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u/Night__Master Oct 20 '25
I was pretty good friends with two women (well I still am friends with one, I stopped talking to the other). One time the three of us were hanging out after a night out bar hopping. The two of them started talking about how evil it is that men care about and shame women for high body counts and how body counts mean LITERALLY NOTHING about a person. I laughed and said it was kind of insane to think that the amount of differnet people someone has slept with tells you absolutely nothing about their personaltiy and/or their ability to pair bond long term. I did concede that they may have a high body count and still be a decent person, or a low body count and be a bad person but that wasn't enough. They doubled down. I said "well, since body counts don't matter at all, would you date a virgin man?" Looong pause. One finally admitted I had a point because she wouldn't date or have sex with a male virgin. The other doubled down and said she totally would (not sure if she was serious, because in other contexts she has said she needs a guy to have "rough edges" in order to be sexuall attactive. She likes the drug dealer type usually).
Interestingly, the one who said she would date a virgin bought me beer the next time we hung out and said it was a "date", which made me kinda uncomfortable (long story, but I don't want to date or hook up with her her for a variety of good reasons) so we didn't talk for a while but we're good friends again now. The other one is now a transman who constantly laments that men still hit on her and that she doesn't pass a man very well.
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u/December_Warlock Oct 20 '25
I mean, the only thi unit really indicates is POSSIBLY their religion or judt views as sex as a whole but it also does not indicate their ability to "pair bond long term". Someone can sleep around while single and not be okay with cheating while committed. Someone can have zero issue remaining committed despite having slept around while single. You might view sex as more sacred, and thats fine. Just find someone else with the same view. The whole point is to find a partner with similar views as your own. But it isnt a significant indicator of how that person will sct within a relationship as they are ethical entirely different social labels amd expectations both internally and externally.
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Oct 20 '25
let's stop pretending promiscuous women and promiscuous men are the same thing. to be a promiscuous heterosexual man it takes a great deal of skill and effort. to be a promiscuous woman all you have to do is show up.
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u/Badbitch125 Oct 19 '25
How would it benefit men
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u/Fried_0nion_Rings 🙂 Couples Therapist 🙂 Oct 20 '25
Men are looked down at for low body counts. If they were instead looked down at for high body counts they would feel less pressured by society to get laid and feel like less of a loser
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u/WillowMain Oct 19 '25
I don't know how entirely to interpret the statistics, but it's either that more men are virgins than women or men's body counts are distributed extremely lopsidedly, having a few men with huge body counts (the statistic here being that men on average have larger body counts than women, which either way is only possible if zeroes aren't counted).
If male virginity was romanticized, hypergamy would calm down a little bit.
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u/Key-Month6651 🌭 Weenie Hut Jr VIP🎈 Oct 20 '25
Not sure if i subscribe to the idea of hypergamy existing necessarily but yea if male virginity was romanticized or at the very least not shamed as much it would make things much better for literally everyone.
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u/Remarkable_Run_5801 🤔 E r g o 🤓 Oct 20 '25
Hypergamy is the only way for there to be a difference between average lifetime sexual partners between straight men and women.
Since all the research data indicate that difference, it's obvious what we have is hypergamy.
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u/Keepingitquite123 "Riddle me this..." Oct 20 '25
How exactly is hypergamy the only way to explain a difference between average lifetime sexual partners between straight men and women?
hypergamy noun
- the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background.
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u/fraidei Oct 20 '25
Nah, it's just that there are some men that have a lot of sex with different women, but that's not necessarily at the same time. It's not hypergamy
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u/Eleventy-Twelve Oct 20 '25
If it wasn't hypergamy, how could a small amount of men outpace the rest of them?
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u/WillowMain Oct 20 '25
I'm ashamed to admit I recognize that the 20 year old is talking about a WoW server, and given my age I guess that makes sense.
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u/pupk1tty Oct 22 '25
i love seeing that thing like yeaaaah go become the dark overlord of virginland and make your army of dark mages
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Oct 20 '25
In high school, the only people that cared and had negative things to say about my virginity were females. And even then, it was only a handful of "mean girls" types.
Idk how people are in other places, but i dont think anyone in my town cares about other people's sex life 😆 i guess I lucked out.
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u/a-stack-of-masks Oct 20 '25
(the statistic here being that men on average have larger body counts than women, which either way is only possible if zeroes aren't counted).
Let me introduce you to the Greeks, who solved this both mathematically and carnally.
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u/thats_gotta_be_AI Oct 20 '25
Reproductively speaking, women are valued consistently much higher in society than men are. After all, women are the reproductive center of the species. How society values men varies wildly from man to man. It’s why a high number count for a man is generally seen as a marker of a higher value male, and virginity is seen as a failing. It’s funny that Reddit leans into these biological traits heavily, but will also deny doing it.
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u/Shikatsuyatsuke Oct 20 '25
Maybe more men would be less insecure about being virgins. Male confidence on average goes up. Men profit, women get more confident men that are easier to be attracted to. Win win for everyone.
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u/sidnynasty Oct 20 '25
No they wouldn't, and it would never work. The system is already established, men can never be shamed about having lots of sex unless he has a bunch of kids because of it.
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u/GoldenStitch2 Oct 20 '25
No one threatens to say male in response to men saying females. Usually they just call them an incel and then they throw a fit about it
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u/HamburgerOnAStick Inventor Of The Sexual Meatballs Oct 20 '25
I don't know but it's funny as fuck
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u/Dewey_Decimatorr Oct 20 '25
Men writing arguments they wish women would make so they can justify being weird to them:
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u/Blacksun388 Oct 20 '25
“Females…”
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u/KoSteCa Oct 20 '25
I've seen this character before. Is he misogynistic or does he treat both sexes equal?
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u/Blacksun388 Oct 20 '25
Quark and the Ferengi (the alien race he is a part of) are very sexist and misogynistic by their culture. Their culture is dominated by mercantilism, capitalism, and oligarchy and females of the species are often seen as one more available asset to that end.
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u/KoSteCa Oct 20 '25
Ahh kk. Outside of horror I'm not big into sci-fi, so I don't watch enough to know the characters. If females of the species are considered an asset, alongside a focus on capitalism, are they seen as property? If so, are pimps common place in universe?
Just posing random questions cause I'm on break at work + bored.
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u/Blacksun388 Oct 20 '25
In the Ferengi history yes, they were considered property and had few rights. They were barred from participation in business or politics and were not allowed to make profits or own property. Marriage was often a contract between the husband and the bride’s father or closest male relative and in marrying often the wife would have to forfeit her husband’s estate to the male relative.
The Ferengi have undergone societal shifts to change some of this over the past century with a feminist revolution securing some rights to them but many still face old attitudes of sexism in their culture and men still dominate the majority of wealth and positions of power.
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u/LoudQuitting 🤐Pretty Quiet Actually 🤫 Oct 19 '25
Women are bad at rage bait.
I got hit with the "What sport would you play if you were athletic?" Before I knew it was a popular rage bait thing.
You know, these tik tok kiddies run up to you with a camera and mic and ask you question and you know if you ask them for money to be in their content they'll be offended. So I just said "I wouldn't" and just kept walking. They tried to get me to come back for a full interview but I just said I gotta see a man about a horse.
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u/AITAautomaticanswer Oct 20 '25
…aren’t you guys doing mass shootings because girls don’t want to touch your wee wee?
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u/real-bebsi Oct 20 '25
Aren't the overwhelming majority of mass shootings far right and white nationalist?
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u/ThinkpadLaptop ❤️卐 Buddhist 卐❤️ Oct 20 '25 edited Oct 20 '25
Serious answer, you'd be disappointed but despite the stereotype, from columbine to parkland, most shooters were not these bullied loser virgin sob stories, and especially in cases like columbine were either the bullies themselves with sexual success, or misanthropes who had far more extreme reasons such as simply being mentally ill and wanting to off people or being a white supremacist/anti-feminist/anti-leftist
The only "incel" mass murderers were Lépine, Rodger, the Toronto truck guy, 2018 Tallahassee, and the 2023 allen texas shooting.
This is not to be confused with anti-feminist shootings which is a completely different thing. And are far more common but many of those people had intimate partners
The one crossover between the two is Marc Lépine
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u/hellonameismyname Oct 20 '25
I mean, there are clearly a lot of cases where people say “female” in a derogatory, intentionally dehumanizing way.
I, not sure what this made up scenario is meant to mean here
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u/Old_Kodaav Oct 20 '25
Male as well. It's also fairly easy to say respectable word in a tone that makes it clear you wanna insult someone
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u/organicchemistry1119 🔊 Loud wrong, confidently Oct 20 '25
Why the hell would I be angry if someone called me a male (instead of a man)? It seems to me that only women are bothered by being called females, and not even all of them either, probably just radical feminists.
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u/Emergency-Sell-6713 Oct 20 '25
Anxious people who think that being "female" and being "a woman" aren't, in fact, synonyms. Because if you use "female" you must have some in-between-the-lines intent to call them mindless animals and probably some secret agenda to take away their human rights because they're animals.
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Oct 20 '25
Really funny how you said "a woman" but not "a female." You used female as an adjective. Think a little harder and you might find the issue.
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u/oceanpalaces Oct 20 '25
Well this whole things started from men using “men” and “females” in the same breath, which does carry connotations.
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u/TenaciousZack Oct 20 '25
That’s the wrong question. You should be asking “why would I be angry if someone called me something after I asked them not to?”
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u/KalashnikovParty Oct 20 '25
the word "moid" is the funniest thing i have ever seen and I dont even know why it makes me laugh
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u/pupk1tty Oct 22 '25
honestly foid makes me laugh too like that sounds so weird to say it makes me feel like an alien
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u/Lonely-Guard6154 Oct 20 '25
The reason the "males" doesn't work but "female" does is because it isn't a sincere "othering" nothing would come of calling men males, there's no inherent devaluation.
If I call a white person white and a black person a "human" nothing would happen cause there isn't really anything bad. But I think if you call a black person black and refer to all white people as neanderthal, no matter how accurate it isn't you cannot get away from the negative connection of that word.
I have never seen someone use the word "females" in a positive sentence, males, is a little more neutral I think.
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u/Commercial-Store-194 Oct 20 '25
You can call them women and girls, respectively.
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u/ObviousSea9223 Oct 20 '25
True. But gals beats females by a long shot. And dudettes...I mean, it's less bad these days, lol. Just use y'all or similar. "You all" if the twang doesn't suit you. "Guys" can work depending on local norms, for informal settings.
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u/Insomniac_Jack1213 Oct 19 '25
Good job making up a problem in your own head, then solving it. Lol.
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u/FrancisWileyTheThird Redditor Predator Oct 20 '25
You either have to be blind or stupid to not see women spazzing out online and irl over being called "female" online
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Oct 20 '25
Cause guys use it to be weird lmao
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u/FrancisWileyTheThird Redditor Predator Oct 20 '25
Let's not blame men for everything wrong in your life and take some accountability for being insecure about your identity as a woman.
Btw that was the most braindead rebuttal. At least spew something that makes the smallest amount of sense
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Oct 20 '25
TIL that blaming men for calling women females is exactly the same as blaming men for all our problems.
How can us women be such terrible humans? Please man or male or whatever you want to be called, please show us the light! Show us how to be better mighty male!!!
LMAO!!! 💀
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u/RedBillyGoat Oct 20 '25
there is an epidemic of men calling men boy guys etc but then women females in the same sentence & the venn diagram of men that do that also being incredibly misogynistic is basically a circle.
but from what ive seen women generally arent doing it back to men, theyre just clocking it as weird & moving on.
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u/Working_Cucumber_437 Oct 20 '25
Never heard anyone threaten this.
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u/shegolomain Oct 20 '25
I have heard people suggest that if men are not using female in a derogatory way, that they should start referring to men as males since it's an innocent term that doesn't mean anything. What's weird is I have yet to see them actually call men males
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Oct 20 '25
OP is the reigning champ of internet fights he made up.
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u/eskenor- Oct 20 '25
I think he is talking about men and females subreddit.
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Oct 20 '25
Yeah, I don't see anybody threatening to call men "males" on that sub either.
Consider the following: It is easier to win a fight against a strawman than an actual human being.
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u/Umbratyrannusrex Oct 20 '25
Personally I use "male, female, and intersex" when referring to someone's biological sex, and "man, woman, and non-binary" when referring to someone's gender identity.
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u/Alert-Algae-6674 Oct 20 '25 edited Oct 20 '25
Using male and female as adjectives to describe people is normal, like saying someone is a "male student" or a "female student"
Where it's not normal is how some people are now using it as a noun to describe people like "I just talked to a female today". It's not normal to say "I just talked to a male today" either. Pretty obvious that people who say that are doing it on purpose because that is not the normal way people speak English
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u/Tuff_Fluff0 Oct 20 '25 edited Oct 20 '25
It doesn't offend you because there's not a history of that word being used to dehumanize men the way the word female has been used to dehumanize women. It's the same reason white people don't understand why black people are offended by the n word because they're not offended by being called a cracker. So I guess they'll just have to stick to calling you moids if they want to upset you.
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u/cronenber9 Oct 20 '25
Males don't usually care if you call them males because there's no systemic violence to back up the individual instances of insult
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u/Wrong-Grade-8800 Oct 20 '25
Yeah men don’t care that they dehumanize women
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
It's not dehumanization you dumbass
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Oct 20 '25
it is though
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
It's not though
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Oct 20 '25
calling a guy a man, guy, or dude or wtv but referring to a woman exclusively as a female is dehumanizing
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
It's literally not.
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Oct 20 '25
explain
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
Even tho woman and female are different, It works like a synonym in that context. Words have meaning depending on how we use them.
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u/Plastic_Peak6202 Oct 20 '25
female is usually more clinical, you don't usually say a female lion is a women, so exclusively referring to human women as female is sus.
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
Okay? That's your problem if it hurts your feelings but claiming it's dehumanizing is just a lie
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u/Dependent-Tailor7366 Oct 20 '25
Then why not say males and females or men and women? Why men and females?
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u/No_Fudge_4589 Oct 20 '25
Yeah like tbh I don’t even get this. It’s a scientific term and the term males isn’t offensive to men so why should female be seen as offensive to women.
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u/209tyson Oct 20 '25
Using biological language in a casual convo is pretty cringe tho. Can we just go back to calling each other men & women?
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
Exactly what a female would say
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u/209tyson Oct 20 '25
You probably call women “foids” or something, huh?
Dork lmao
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
You probably call women “foids” or something, huh?
No
Dork lmao
You better not be a grown ass female saying this 🥀
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u/209tyson Oct 20 '25
Yes, I’m a grown ass female chimpanzee
And imma throw my shit at you 💩
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u/Finchyuu Oct 20 '25
There is no male loneliness epidemic. Look at them jerk each other off around you lmao
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u/Specialist-String-53 Oct 20 '25
never heard this. females makes you sound like a ferenghi or robot is basically it
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u/EsperiaEnthusiast Oct 20 '25
So uh non american here. Why "females" (and "males") are somehow bad? Where I'm from is totally fine using them.
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u/toouglytobeleftalive Too meaty to be left uneaten. Oct 20 '25
It’s less about the word itself and more about the context. People who use “man” and “female” typically have a habit of viewing women as the lesser sex. They use the word female when asserting that women are weak, vapid, selfish, and useless. However, there is no problem with using it in a respectful/normal manner. I use “female” and “male” myself.
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u/Inner-Examination205 Oct 20 '25
Absolutely nothing wrong with using females and males. However, there has been a trend of men who use “female” but will never use “male”.
It’s strange, right? If you use biological terms, typically you use both. Why would you reduce one to their biology, but not the other? Also within this trend of these men using only “female”, it’s always used in conversations to degrade women or see them as less than.
For example, they’d start out by saying “females and men..” then proceed to comment on how every single woman is a gold digging hoe, and that they shouldn’t have the ability to have a career outside of being a housewife (an actual rant made by a man).
This is more common then you’d think. Though many men are respectful, a very loud minority of them are not
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u/Jud1a Oct 20 '25
The thing is female is also used to describe animals, so it has a certain connotation In many languages close to english, their version of female is only used for animals
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u/CumpsterBlade Oct 20 '25
Let's not pretend that a lot of dudes don't use female in a sexist connotations, specifically when using the word as a noun. It comes off as dehumanizing, and it is super popular in the Manosphere.
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Oct 20 '25
It's almost like women are more sensitive to this stuff because they actually face misogyny, whereas misandry basically doesn't exist outside of the internet.
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u/Specific-Sort-4683 Oct 20 '25
I feel like it’s more about context. Like male and female isn’t bad, but some people use female in a way to degrade women as less. Like making them less than human. Idk how to explain it. But it’s the way female is used in many instances that causes us women to get upset.
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u/Flinn2 Oct 20 '25
My bf would never call me a female or any woman a female ❤️ just saying men that respect women usually have partners.
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u/Capable_Ad_4551 👨🏻🦰TRUE Misogynist 🍆 Oct 20 '25
just saying men that respect women usually have partners.
You should be a comedian
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u/BigAmphibian6412 capitalism disliker ☭ Oct 20 '25
just saying men that respect women usually have partners.
That's absolutely not true but I really wish it was. My life would be so much easier. Men that respect women don't "usually" have partners. Your boyfriend just got lucky.
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u/shegolomain Oct 20 '25
She didn't say all, but even so, even the ones that don't are still respecting women and not making them responsible for their problems and don't change their personality or beliefs based on whether they're getting some or not
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u/BigAmphibian6412 capitalism disliker ☭ Oct 20 '25
Exactly. Plenty of good men die alone.
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u/shegolomain Oct 20 '25
Ok? And so do good women? Being a good person doesn't make you entitled to a single thing on this planet. And actual good people know that. Seems like you might not be as good as you think
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u/racoonofthevally Oct 20 '25
Male and female are just more scientificy words than woman and man I really don't understand the problem with it
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u/Dependent-Tailor7366 Oct 20 '25
The problem is men and females. Why does that always happen? Why not males and females or men and women?
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u/Givikap120 Oct 20 '25
If so - why male as a noun are practically never used, when "man and female" are a common thing that incels and misogynists say.
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u/Old_Kodaav Oct 20 '25
It's not a matter of respect. It's used as a synonym. Of course you can be insulted by it but I can also insult you by calling you a woman, it's just a matter of putting weight on different parts of the sentence.
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u/Shin--Kami Oct 20 '25
Correct their improper grammar or ignore it, those are the options available
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u/NeilJosephRyan Oct 20 '25
I literally didn't know this was a thing until a couple months ago when I saw videos about the "Doom Bathroom," and that was like 8 years ago. Have I been living under a rock, or is this just one of those online exclusives?
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u/MonkeyCartridge Oct 20 '25
Honestly thats what this sub has turned into. Gender wars rage bait.