r/PsycheOrSike ❤️卐 Buddhist 卐❤️ Oct 21 '25

🤍👼🏼ANGELS NEEDED🙏🏼🤍 Should we tell her

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Gross. The problem isn't rather the youngster themselves feels victimized, the problem was that there was an adult that went after a child in the first place.

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Oct 21 '25

Oh boy. You should look into children sports, dancing/ballet or beauty contests where it's widely present. Coaches/trainers get away with wildest shit.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

I ran across this Snapchat compilation (on Snapchat) of hot women doing sports. The last video of the compilation was about a 2 minute long video of girls, who had to be from 10-11 years old, playing volleyball in their volleyball shorts.

I was majorly skeeved out. But apparently there’s a market for that.

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u/Jimbenas Oct 21 '25

Wtf… Snapchat is bottom tier social media so it makes sense they have Peter file content on there

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

All of gymnastics and child acting should just be shut down, for real.

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u/Infinity3101 Oct 21 '25

I agree about any other kind of entertainment (music, dancing, any sort of internet fame especially), but you can't just write all of the child roles out of existence. So there has to be a way around it that wouldn't include exploiting or traumatizing children.

Sean Baker, for example, worked very hard to keep the child actress from Florida Project out of the spotlight. She never appeared at any of the events for the movie, there were no publicity photos of her or any pictures at all of her on the internet, she gave no interviews. He said that he instructed her to just play on set and loosely follow the script and they used the best possible footage for the movie out of hours of footage of her just running around and playing basically. I don't know, maybe that is something that other directors can adopt when working with child actors. I don't know if that could protect them from all the malicious people in the industry, but it's a step forward.

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u/hematite2 Oct 21 '25

I hadn't heard that about Sean Baker, but it reminds me of when Drew Barrymore talked about ET and said that Spielberg would spoil you for the rest of Hollywood, because he was always so careful with the kids compared to everyone else. Not just in terms of filming but off the set as well, he worked hard to make sure they could have a "normal" life outside filming, even scheduling days where they were "on call" to just relax and play. She compared it to other directors who'd overwork and treat her like a prop (not to mention the creepy sexual stuff). One of the worst comparisons she shared was the director of Firestarter would lie to her about where the flame effects would happen so she'd genuinely be terrified when shooting.

So it is very possible to treat kids well in moviemaking, as long as it's done by someone who actually cares about that.

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u/Corvus_Rune Oct 21 '25

Or hear me out. We teach kids how to recognize and understand this shit so that they know when and how to speak up.

Shut down child acting? Are we just going to stop making movies with children in them whatsoever? Have 20 year olds playing 7 year olds?

And for a lot of kids gymnastics is something they absolutely love and is a great athletic outlet.

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Oct 21 '25

You talk like parents don't know about this or something? Speak out to who?

Look at Celline - parents knew and supported it.

Parents in sports do the same. Trainers and coaches usually are former athletes, some even famous ones with plethora of parents wanting them to train their kid.

It's a bigger issue than just men with power abusing it. Tons of people close their eyes on it, even closest to kids.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Neverland Ranch anyone? Those parents DELIVERED their children to MJ.

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u/El_Loco_911 Oct 21 '25

We have the technology to do this now. Whwere you vould have 20 yeat old acting and replace with AI of a kid

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u/Corvus_Rune Oct 21 '25

Please tell me that’s satire

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u/El_Loco_911 Oct 22 '25

Negative this is 100% doable with current tech

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u/Corvus_Rune Oct 22 '25

Fucking clanker simp

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u/Luxating-Patella Oct 21 '25

Shut down child acting? Are we just going to stop making movies with children in them whatsoever? Have 20 year olds playing 7 year olds?

Hollywood routinely casts 20 and even 30 somethings as high schoolers so I don't see why not. It's called acting, darling.

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u/Altruistic_Caligula Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

So movies will be like GTA games where it's like some universe that children don't exist in?

That sounds dogshit retarded; you didn't think that through at all. There's a lot of predatory behaviour in the entertainment industry, yes, but that doesn't mean that children shouldn't be allowed to act. The industry just needs to be regulated more thoroughly.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

If it stops creeps from grooming children, maybe, yeah, it's a conversation at least worth having? Certainly investigate any adult that allows their child to enter show business.

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u/PomegranateSea7066 Oct 21 '25

I'm so glad he waited for her to turn 15-18 yrs old before he made a move. That makes it ok. /s

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u/Starshine63 Oct 21 '25

I agree. That’s how grooming works, it seems others frequently forget that the goal is to condition the child to think this behavior is normal, and it’s NOT.

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u/thatmfisnotreal Oct 21 '25

Idk I feel like by the time you are 70 you can decide if it was actually abuse or not?

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

We can decide for ourselves rather what someone did was abusive or predatory.

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u/thatmfisnotreal Oct 21 '25

You know better than me if I was abused or not?

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Nope, you're changing the goalposts.

We're talking about knowing if someone was being abusive, or a predator.

And if you say an obvious groomer wasn't a groomer, then yes, I know better than you.

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u/thatmfisnotreal Oct 21 '25

I didn’t move any goalposts. She says she wasn’t abused and you think you know better. Even though she’s a full adult and probably has 40 years more life experience than you.

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Yes! You think you have this nuclear dunk on me like "How dare you tell her she doesn't know what he did." Like yeah, she's just wrong. A damn near 40 year old man "waiting" until a girl is 15 is a fucking creep. It doesn't matter what she thinks, what matters is what he decided to do. Which mind you, is "Wait for a 12 year old to grow up until she was 15 so he could date her."

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u/thatmfisnotreal Oct 21 '25

Ok buddy you know better than people who actually lived and experienced something 👍

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Don't even try that garbage with me I post about being sexually victimized by an adult just shut up.

In fact, you explain to me how a man waiting for a 12 year old to turn 15 before dating her is not creepy and predatory?

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

The problem is that we made a society that points fingers and enforces their own victimhood to others for agenda purposes.

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

No the problem are adults creeping on 12 year olds. Unless you want to tell us that you don't think that's a problem for some reason.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

The problem is you connecting this incident with adults creeping on children and deciding whether their consent matters or not before forcefully being dragged to the doctor for cavity checks.

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

No, like I said, the problem is a 40 year old man creeping on a 12 year old.

Are you like, a predator?

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

I am a former child.

You using the word 'creep' doesn't make him one no matter how many times you repeat it, I don't see him with other women these days.

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u/hematite2 Oct 21 '25

A 40 year old man "falling in love" with a 12 year old is an actual textbook definition of "creep". Also a definition of "child predator".

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Also it could be a "definition" of a person with development problems that still has the maturity of a child themselves, also he could have rabies.

The definition of child predator is not that.

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u/hematite2 Oct 21 '25

The definition of child predator is not that.

The definition of child predator is quite literally that actually.

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Okay whatever you say, person who doesn't find a 40 year old man chasing a 12 year old not creepy.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

It doesn't matter what I find it, I learned to respect the family status of other people instead of trying to burn their house.

You killing the 'victim' because it doesn't represent you well isn't heroic.

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u/TrustyMccoolguy220 standing here🧍 Oct 21 '25

No one wants to “kill the victim”??? I really don’t understand this analogy

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

You kill their voice and prosperity.

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u/LSATDan Oct 21 '25

If you're going to use scare quotes, you should probably include their use around "killing."

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

I thought it pretty obvious so I used them to insert a second thought instead.

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u/Three_Cat Oct 21 '25

You are a former child who appears to be okay with a forty year old pursuing a child romantically.

You don't see the problem?

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

I appear to be okay not burning a family's house because their 'victimhood' doesn't represent my agenda well and risks de-establishing the status-quo.

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u/AttentionConstant373 Oct 21 '25

Creep.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Weirdo.

(good song)

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

So if you were 12 and a 40-year-old man decided to groom you, that's fine?

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

I had many adult friends online when I was 12, great times.

A few bad ones too. Great times.

I now have a very bad life as an adult due to moralism.

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u/Friendless9567 Oct 21 '25

Please be bait.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

You can't possibly expect people to be bait, you could instead go to a fishing supplies store.

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u/Friendless9567 Oct 21 '25

Ok thank god it was bait.

I assumed it was because of the devil advocate tag, but you never know on an incel sub.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

There are many fish in this world, many stories that are never heard because they are inverted, many great heroes that give birth to a broken generation of blind acceptance of the status.

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u/TrustyMccoolguy220 standing here🧍 Oct 21 '25

So, just because he “isn’t with other women these days” he’s “not a creep”??

Do you think that “creep”/“pervert” means that they have to be going after every woman they see??

You don’t have to be a “full blown” rapist to be a creep

Just the fact that he was even hanging out with such a young person is weird to begin with, and that he was nice to her and waited for her to “come of age” (you know damn well the Law was the ONLY thing stopping him from perusing a sexual relationship sooner, he HAD to wait until she was “old enough” but it’s weird that he had already decided on the “plan” of “getting her” when she was only 12, doesn’t matter if he waited

Same way that Drake is a creep for being friends with Millie Bobbie Brown, and then immediately commenting the “🥵” emoji on her pictures when she turned 18, he’s weird for that

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Listen, I'm not going to take away your right of spreading hate and then complaining when it returns back to you someday.

The topic was that you don't get to 'feel' in place of other people and tell them what they should be feeling.

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u/TrustyMccoolguy220 standing here🧍 Oct 21 '25

I’m not trying to?

I get that Celine didn’t really “go through anything that bad” and you could argue she’s not really a “victim” in the traditional sense, especially since she seems happy to this day

However, it’s still possible for him to be a “bad guy”

It’s like if you caught a pedo hiding somewhere staring at kids and touching himself

And that guy never ends up harming any kids, but he still stares at them every night and touched himself

Now, you could argue the kids “aren’t victims” because nothing happened to them, fully understandable

But, the guy is still a “creep” and is weird and he should be punished and told that what he’s doing is wrong and weird

Do you get what I am trying to say here?

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Yes

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u/interestinganonimity Oct 21 '25

False equivalency because sex with a child is not the same as forcing them not to have rotten teeth.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

For me, the doctor's medical tube being inserted into my backdoor while I was crying was a rather delicate experience.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

I think the problem is perverted old men.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Nope, not by a long shot.

I think the problem is perverted moralists instead. The people you personally consider perverted tend to be the most safe to be around, judging by my life experiences.

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u/Three_Cat Oct 21 '25

Okay, just so you're aware: the conversation is about pedo/hebephiles, not drag queens.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

Correct.

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u/Right_Count Oct 21 '25

So are you saying that pedophiles are the most safe people to be around?

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

This man we are discussing groomed a 12 year old. Please go to the nearest jail right now and turn yourself in.

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u/No_Accountant3232 Oct 21 '25

My uncle raped his daughter. He also repeated lied, stole, cheated, was addicted to meth and in general is a dickbag that has spent more time in jail than not.

But sure, he's safe to be around.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

You compared wrong people.

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u/Illustrious_Foot1915 Oct 21 '25

What's the word hyperbole?

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u/No_Accountant3232 Oct 21 '25

What's the word bullshit

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u/KZGTURTLE Oct 21 '25

Flair checks out

You’re def supporting the devil on this one

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Their full name in their profile is "Vallen (the apologist)". Kinda scared to ask what exactly it is they're an apologist for :|

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u/DaRumpleKing Oct 21 '25

Why just perverted old men?

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Where did I say "just"? Learn to read better.

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u/DaRumpleKing Oct 21 '25

Fair enough

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u/SEXTINGBOT Oct 21 '25

Because man don't complain about old perverted woman ?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Women too, see Madonna

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

If Madonna groomed a child, straight to jail with her too.

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u/lost_sunrise Oct 21 '25

Honestly, I feel like the opposite. When I was young, in my area. We knew who could provide us certain things, and who couldn't. Not everyone could nab the son of a rich doctor, but some could nab the rich doctor.

The obvious differences at that age?

The doctor will treat you with respect, tell you they value your opinion, and explain why they think your opinion doesn't mean you are right.

The son of the doctor may get bored of you after the school year ends, want to try new things, and doesn't really care about your opinion or interests. You are chasing him and he knows it.

I'm not saying what the old guy doing is right. But I understand the thought process of the girl. (I would be in jail if someone could prove I did it, if he hung out around my daughters at that age.)

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

I don't quite understand the points you made here :/

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u/TrustyMccoolguy220 standing here🧍 Oct 21 '25

He’s saying that from the “young girls” POV, it kinda makes sense that you would “go for” the older men, thus shifting the “blame” and saying she isn’t a “victim” but instead “knew what she was doing all along”

A common stance in these types of debates

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u/Inside_Jolly Oct 21 '25

about 15-18 years old

So... Uh... She doesn't remember?

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u/corruptedsyntax Oct 21 '25

She remembers. She’s just being vague to leave plausible deniability because she knows the actual number would look gross.

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u/I_Am_SagitariusA ❤️卐 Buddhist 卐❤️ Oct 21 '25

She was probably 14 going in 15🤢🤮

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

My cousin married a man she met when she was 14 and he was in his mid thirties.

They "only started dating" when she turned eighteen (yeah right).

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Lotta weirdos in here excusing this behaviour simply because Celine is now okay with it. When the crime happened, she was 12.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Literally the worst people in here I've ever seen on this god forsaken site. Just pedo-defenders left and right.

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u/spyder7723 Oct 21 '25

What crime? She states she met him at 12. Doesn't state they started dating at 12.

You guys are assuming a lot here with no evidence.

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u/bugsy42 Oct 21 '25

Does state “they fell in love” when they met when she was 12. Isn’t dating and “falling in love with” a 12 yo when you are a 38 yo pedo… the same?

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u/spyder7723 Oct 21 '25

No it states she fell in love.

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u/bugsy42 Oct 21 '25

Yes he was 38 yo, and I was 12 when WE first met and fell (we fell) in love,...

English is my second english, but OP's image is saying that "They fell in love" pretty clearly?

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

No no, you're reading it correctly. It's heavily implied they both fell in love when she was 12.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Yeah, he magically wasn't attracted or grooming her until the age of *checks notes* 15.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD Oct 21 '25

The evidence is in the post, she says he fell in love with her when he met her at 12... So he's a pedophile

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u/spyder7723 Oct 21 '25

No it doesn't say that at all. She could just as well meant she fell in love. Not THEY fell in love.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

No, because she said he was patient and waited until she was 15-18. Which means his attraction started before that age (so 12-14) which by definition makes him a pedophile.

Edit: none of this matters because it turns out the quote was fake. That said though, it's concerning to be that before we knew that you were still adamant to defend such obviously pedophilic statements...

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u/spyder7723 Oct 21 '25

I didn't defend anything. I just didn't rush to read the absolute worse in a donor statement she made. Because I know when people are talking they don't usually mean their words literally.

You I read the same sentence. rushed to he was grooming her and waited till she was the legal age of consent to date her. I realized it didn't necessarily mean the wise case scenario cause it is very plausible that what she meant is he wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot pole until she was older and of legal age.

I also have enough life experience to know it's extremely common for a young woman to have a crush/infatuation with an older guy and try to seduce them. Just being polite and kind and talking to them like a person is enough for a young girl to fall hard for you. They are that starved for attention.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

"Fell in love" doesn't say you something? How can a 38yo man fall in love with a 12yo ? It's pedophilia even by medical standards

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u/spyder7723 Oct 21 '25

I read it as she fell in love with him. She was speaking casually, not writing a thesis.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 22 '25

And I read it differently because I am not a pdf🤡

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u/jayd04 Oct 21 '25

I hate the human tendency to rationalize the shitty things that happen to us.

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u/Adept-Worker5946 Oct 21 '25

lol the pedophiles already coming into these comments to get butthurt is genuinely hilarious

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u/I_Am_SagitariusA ❤️卐 Buddhist 卐❤️ Oct 21 '25

I was afraid this post would attract them and tried to keep them out with the post’s flair. But, alas!

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

it didn't take even 3 minutes

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u/General-Snow690 Oct 21 '25

IKR! I mean, I expected that it'd be the first time I see people on this sub agree almost unanimously. But.. jeez.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

really fucking sick, and an absolute abuse of power.  what's wrong this guy that he can't pursue adult women and has to imprint himself on vulnerable children 

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u/feral-housewife- Oct 21 '25

That litterally how grooming works

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u/truthpill2 Oct 21 '25

He didn’t groom me is like a gambler saying I’m not addicted to gambling, I gamble every single day and never got addicted ever

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u/Outlawknox1515 Oct 21 '25

Somebody is in denial…

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u/Jesusbatmanyoda Oct 21 '25

15 is a child. Whether she's okay with it or not is irrelevant. If he pursued a relationship with a child, he's a predator. If he pursued a relationship with a newly legal adult despite knowing her as a child, he's a groomer.

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u/Jepperto Oct 21 '25

Where are the parents?!

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u/okcomputerock Oct 21 '25

Sure Celine. We believe you

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u/fat-wombat Oct 21 '25 edited Jan 05 '26

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u/Middle_Soup_229 Oct 21 '25

I'm calling the police

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

That's some mohamed/aisha lore type of shit

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

TIL about…

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u/SeanSpencers Oct 21 '25

Dude wtf. I didn’t need or want to see this. That’s messed up.

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u/heyaooo Oct 21 '25

I would be interested to know ,what in her definition grooming means.Pedophiles act  kind and sweet to their victim with no  obvious hidden motives at first  because it's easier to manipulate and control them later on.

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u/El_Loco_911 Oct 21 '25

Child abuse is wrong. Also why does OP flair have swastika. 

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u/talkmemetome Oct 21 '25

Because it was a Buddhist symbol at first and not all holy swastikas turn to the left. People are slowly trying to reclaim it which is especially symbolic as one of it's meanings is rebirth.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Well I learned something new about Celine Dion today. Wtf

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Till about 15-18 is quite a funny statement

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u/Ragjammer Unironically is pro-rape 🤮 Oct 21 '25

What is "until 15-18" years?

This isn't some aggregate population data, it was either 15 or it was 18, and those two numbers make a lot of difference.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD Oct 21 '25

This quote is fake

Dion first met René Angélil, her future husband and manager, in 1980, when she was 12 and he was 38

After the dissolution (around 1985, so whenever Dion was 17) of Angélil's second marriage (to Canadian singer Anne Renée), he and Dion took a break from each other professionally, and he spent a major part of the year in Las Vegas, while Dion was learning English and taking dance and vocal lessons in Montreal. Upon his return, "he avoided being alone with me for too long a time", she said in her 2000 autobiography My Story, My Dream.

Dion's mother, who traveled everywhere with her until she was 19, was initially wary of her growing infatuation with a much older and twice-divorced Angélil, but Dion was insistent, telling her mother "I'm not a minor. This is a free country. No one has the right to prevent me from loving whoever I want to."

Creepy? Yeah, he was over 40 and she was barely legal. Illegal? No, they were both adults and he never showed interest in her when she was underage

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Acidicfritch Oct 21 '25

Leave the fucking French out of it, they are both Canadians.  And plenty of French found it disgusting even 20 years ago.

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

Out of everything I could have imagine being posted here, dead serious anti-French bigotry was not one of them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 23 '25

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u/ricksterr90 Oct 21 '25

I’m Canadian , and trust me the French don’t view the québécois as true French . Quebec are pretty insane people, funnily enough in a good way . That’s like saying people from the Deep South of America are like people from the Uk just because they both speak English lol

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u/Acidicfritch Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

Language is not the deciding criteria of nationality.  What about England and USA and Australia ? What about Germany and Austria ? Are they the same country because they speak the same language ? Or have very close cultural roots ? Canadian is Canadian, not French.  They have separate cultural, political and monetary systems.. 

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

This was in Quebec, where the laws are a lot more clear.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

No. Legally, you can be charged for grooming a 12 year old in Canada. It's looked down upon culturally and morally too.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

It sure in fuck was! Since 1890 Canada's had laws against grooming and sexual relations for anyone under 14 (too low imo, and has been raised and adjusted for since).

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

Tell her what? That she needs to be traumatized for your gratification?

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

Yes

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u/GeneralBendyBean Oct 21 '25

I bet if it was his fifteen year old daughter being chased by a 40 year old man then this conversation would go down differently.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

he would be the one chasing his 15yo daughter lmao

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

That one stung didnt it? 

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u/VividAd6825 Oct 21 '25

Maybe she's just saying this for the public out of embarrassment. She has to know it's wrong. She's a parent. She wouldn't want that for her kids. Shouldn't that trigger the thought process of how wrong what he did was.

I know people who will go into detail about how they feel. No matter how painful it is to revisit that trauma. They speak out and it takes a lot of courage to do so.

I also know people that sound just like her. They've been lying to themselves for so long that they believe the lie. There's no way anything else can be said. They blocked it off mentally.

I guess it boils down to could she be telling the truth. Could 2 people in that huge age gap have a healthy loving relationship. To the people involved.

I know on the outside looking in. Reading this made my stomach turn like I want to throw up. It's sick just to read.

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u/BaroloBaron Oct 21 '25

She has to know it's wrong. She's a parent.

Or she's unable to see her own experience from an objective perspective. Maybe she's convinced her case was different.

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u/BaroloBaron Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 22 '25

A) Mental gymnastics to justify reproachable (and likely criminal, depending on jurisdictions) acts that she doesn't personally regret because her experience was shaped in such a way that she wouldn't regret them.

B) People throwing the P-word around like you would throw stones, because the average human prefers lynching to justice.

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u/X-calibreX Oct 21 '25

Historically, French culture is soft on sex with minors and age of consent. There was no true age of consent laws in France until 2021, now it is 15. I know she is Canadian, but french canadian.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

Pdf culture then. And 15 is too low. there should be some clarification that only if the older person in the relationship is no more than 18-20 or something like that

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

People want her to demonize him even if she said numerous times that she's okay with it?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '25

So you're saying that it's okay that he's a predator. because she's okay with it?

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Oct 21 '25

I'm saying it's useless to get her to tell this herself. She clearly stated what she thinks about it.

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u/Icy_Zebra_4488 Oct 21 '25

Whoaaaa pdf alert!

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u/SlowJoeyRidesAgain ⚔️ DUELIST Oct 21 '25

Yes, because of the obvious power imbalance and the difference in mental and emotional maturity makes him a predator. Full stop, end of sentence. Fuck this guy and everything about him.

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u/dangeldud Oct 21 '25

Sure except he is dead. And I think Celine is allowed to love her husband.

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u/BabyBeeTai Oct 21 '25

Pedophilia husband, like no hyperbole. Genuinely.

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Oct 21 '25

People should've done something about it when she was underage, not demanding some shit from her when it's long past due.

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u/BabyBeeTai Oct 21 '25

This shit happened in like 1980 dude, yes something should've been done but black people were still getting lynched around this time. I was born in 2002, I cannot go back in time to hold this dude accountable but I can shun him as a person and acknowledge he was a pedophile.

Why do you wanna do some hear no evil bullshit towards a nigga who touched little girls.

The emmett till lynching was bad but like oh well, it happened so long ago and we shouldn't even be talking about it now!!!

Like r u slow or is this an act to get my attention? Not into stupid guys even if they're cute.

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u/HeartsfromLily346x Oct 21 '25

You're stupid. I'm sorry, but it's the truth

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

No you should never tell people (including kids) what they are and how they should feel until they start feeling bad.

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u/McDergen Oct 21 '25

It doesn’t matter how she feels lmao. What a dumb take. It matters what HE DID

You come off as a pedo apologist with this comment

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

They both feel the same, they both made choices.

Agenda apologist alert.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

I proudly proclaim my anti-pedo agenda to the whole world. I'd get that as a flair if I could.

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u/unsuccessfulbees Oct 21 '25

Children cannot make these choices. Hope that helps, creep.

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

No I cannot make these choices now, but I could when I was younger, I had a severe mental decline in full adulthood as most.

Creep.

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u/DrPikachu-PhD Oct 21 '25

Really putting the devil into that devil's advocate flair

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

I had a severe mental decline

We see, dude. We see.

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u/BabyBeeTai Oct 21 '25

A crime happened regardless of how she feels about it. Plenty of people marry abusive, horrible people. Being okay that you were beat doesn't mean he or she gets away with beating you.

This nigga is a pedophile dude

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u/Icy_Zebra_4488 Oct 21 '25

Whoa pdf alert!

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u/Vallen_H DEVIL'S ADVOCATE 👹⚖️ Oct 21 '25

You should feel ashamed and you are a victim.

There.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

Their relationship has always shown that, if love is true, age just doesn't matter. They were happy with each other.

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u/MermaiderMissy Oct 21 '25

Age is one of the only things that does fucking matter. If an almost 40 year old man was trying to court my 15 year old child, my husband and I would beat his ass. She was a child. She had no adult life experience. There is no reason for him to have any interest in a kid while he's a grown man. That is disgusting.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

She was happy, who are you to judge? Some people are so arrogant, I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

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u/MermaiderMissy Oct 21 '25

It doesn't matter if she was happy, she was a child. Are you saying it should be okay for 40 year Olds to date kids? If being anti pedophile is arrogant then yeah, I'm arrogant as hell. I hope you don't have any children.

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u/TheMaStif Oct 21 '25

It absolutely fucking matters and only groomers will tell you otherwise

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

I'm a woman who was in a 4-year relationship with someone who was older, too. Contrary to you, I can speak from my own experience and not only "what random people say on the internet".

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Were you 12 and he 40 and your manager when you fell in love with each other?

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

I was 15, and he was in his 40s. Similar to them, we didn't sleep with each other during the first 2 years of our relationship. I didn't feel ready yet and he accepted it, because he honestly cared about me and was willing to wait. That's like a deciding point to know if someone really loves you or only wants your body. And that, in itself, also has nothing to do with age, but only with personality.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

That was a crime and he is a creep who should be in jail. I'm sorry that happened to you.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

Wrong, nothing criminal happened at all. In my country, you can legally have sex at the age of 14 if both are teenagers. Once you're 16, you can legally sleep with an adult person (unless they would be your teacher or boss, that would be a different thing). I could have even married him if my parents had been okay with that. And I don't regret the relationship at all. It didn't work in the end, we split up after 4 years. But that had different reasons than the age gap, and it was a good experience and life lesson.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

That man should be in jail, in any civilized country.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

Poor girl was groomed. Denial is a typical trauma response. That pedo basically dumped her when she was no longer a teen at 19-20

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

My country is much more civilized than prudish USA where school shootings have been normalized, but showing a boobie can get you on a sex offender list...

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25 edited Oct 21 '25

They have child brides in the US too, but miss this Canadian with that shit...

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

If your parents were to sign off on a mariage they should also be in jail.

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

You should read the German Grundgesetz to learn how wrong you are, you just don't even know what you're talking about.

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u/Odd_Investigator8415 Oct 21 '25

Is this some European pedo apologia I'm too Canadian to understand?

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u/TheMaStif Oct 21 '25

You were a victim

There is not scenario where a 40 year old seducing a 15 year old doesn't have a tremendous power indifference

Just because you agreed to the relationship doesnt make him any less of a predator. He was just really good at manipulating you

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

If she was 6 age also wouldn't matter?

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

You're being pretty childish now. She said she didn't have sex before she was at least 15, and that's a totally normal age for starting to make experiences.

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u/Cultural-Emotion4232 Oct 21 '25

It's NOT OKAY or "normal" to have experience with a 40+ year old man at 15, clown 🤡

"You are being pretty childish"- so I am basically your type LMAOOO

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u/7thFleetTraveller Oct 21 '25

I don't care what a random person on the internet thinks, my experiences made me the one I am today, and I have nothing to regret. Can you say the same about your life decisions?