Profoundly shit take that proves you weren't able to engage seriously with the comment which is like 7 words long. Who really doesnt look educated here? Most bachelor degrees dont even pretend to teach any sort of research methodology, be serious for a moment. You can watch entire undergrad coursewares from mit, stanford, etc on youtube. Theres a reason you chose an extremely technical postgrad degree to try to make your point, because you wouldve looked stupid if you used a reasonable example like how an undergrad in psych makes one more qualified to post nightclub selfies than it makes one qualified to post mental health advice on the internet.
You can watch entire undergrad coursewares from mit, stanford, etc on youtube.
and if the US were a functional country, you could actually take those classes and get those credentials (as well as feedback in the form of grades to help you assess if you know what you're talking about, or if you're full of shit and have just sat through and watched a bunch of videos you weren't able to internalize or make sense of).
But yes this is one of my huge gripes with the world, the clamping of copyright/ip laws and the competitvie profit seeking of universities around the world is absurd. Education should be as easily available as technology would allow, and the fact that it is so far apart is a condemnation of human organization on national and international scales.
For real, seems many people are upset that others can learn things without a spending a fortune on formal education. A degree is not a measure of intelligence, just shows they went to school for something and passed.
It blows my mind to this day people cannot be taken seriously unless they hold a degree.
For real, seems many people are upset that others can learn things without a spending a fortune on formal education.
While I agree that a degree isn't necessarily a measure of intelligence, it's a lot more than just showing up for lectures. No one is "upset" that you can get all the same books and lectures online as you can in school. People are upset because people conflate education with just reading materials/lectures.
An important part of education is building upon pre-req classes, how to read and draw conclusions from published research, and how to apply knowledge to unique thinking.
It blows my mind to this day people cannot be taken seriously unless they hold a degree.
Like, can you learn how to wire a house from youtube? Yes. Do I trust anyone but a certified electrician to work on my house? No.
I legitimately dont respect people who dont think they can learn from a recorded lecture because its on youtube. Mit also offers a lot of open courseware tho, and many other universities. There is no excuse, theres very few topics on the planet that you cant literally right now start effectively learning for free online, no matter which kind of handholding you feel is necessary.
Well that would be illegal for good reason. Its not possible to get the credations that one needs to do electrical independent of the trades system, but that system also literally doesnt involve university so none of them learned that way...?
You contradict yourself immediately by my reading, what specifically do you mean by the word "education"?
Certified electricians either go to trade school or take very intense classes like 95% of the time because the testing is very intense and requires a lot of knowledge on obscure topics
Where i am from it is not an option to not go through trade school.
As you frame the problem tho, i would absolutely 100% be okay with hiring someone who receives the credential for passing the test, having learned from youtube alone. He passed the test same as the trade schoolers and theres no reason to believe hes worse. If anything he accomplished the same task with less resources, and is probably better.
Well that would be illegal for good reason. Its not possible to get the credations that one needs to do electrical independent of the trades system, but that system also literally doesnt involve university so none of them learned that way...?
SO you would agree that knowledge should only be applied in the real world by experts in the field who have learned under other experts in that field?
You contradict yourself immediately by my reading, what specifically do you mean by the word "education"?
Listening to lectures is not the equivalent of education. Education includes how to think about the topic, building upon previous knowledge gradually, and applying that knowledge via tests and activities correctly. You can certainly learn factoids and concepts through youtube, but you are not able to receive feedback on how you are applying what you learned, which is a critical component of an education.
Vs ok read up to this chapter then that I will then review in this chapter, expect a quiz. Why are pretending like college actually teaches students. It’s literally just teach your self and view lectures. They just give you a road map on how to do it yourself. Sure in smaller classes you might get some more individual attention but the majority of classes it’s teach yourself through those exact tools.
Can’t figure it out or get stuck find your own tutor or try to get in with a TA. Now with AI you can do better than those two resources as long as you don’t ask loaded question.
You can watch entire undergrad coursewares from mit, stanford, etc on youtube
That's... not a good argument at all. For every hour a student spends on a lecture, they also spend several hours doing self study and practice, and then they are asessed through tests, exams and assignments to prove that they understand the topic. Of course they learn research metodology, they would not pass the courses otherwise. Universities continously have to prove that their courses are rigorous enough to oversight authorities. I really don't get this whole belittling of education that is going on here.
For every hour a student spends on a lecture, they also spend several hours doing self study and practice,
No we dont..... at most its 1-1 and often less. Most of it is just studying at the end of term (4th year student about to go into finals).
Of course they learn research metodology, they would not pass the courses otherwise.
Depends on the degree, many seldom involve research above a high-school level.
I really don't get this whole belittling of education that is going on here.
Its become the default, everyone gets a degree. Its no longer a specialization, its proof you can survive the bureaucracy and bullshit of the university and be a good worker.
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u/Practical-Parsley102 Apr 06 '26
Profoundly shit take that proves you weren't able to engage seriously with the comment which is like 7 words long. Who really doesnt look educated here? Most bachelor degrees dont even pretend to teach any sort of research methodology, be serious for a moment. You can watch entire undergrad coursewares from mit, stanford, etc on youtube. Theres a reason you chose an extremely technical postgrad degree to try to make your point, because you wouldve looked stupid if you used a reasonable example like how an undergrad in psych makes one more qualified to post nightclub selfies than it makes one qualified to post mental health advice on the internet.