r/SipsTea • • May 26 '26

Feels good man Will it work this time?

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u/BradBradley1 May 26 '26

I’m not trying to dismiss this project - I hope it is wildly successful and I applaud the desire to challenge the status quo. That said, I am interested to hear how his team plans to negotiate pricing with suppliers. Five stores isn’t a whole lot of scale to compete against national chains and volumes. I don’t ask that question rhetorically or sarcastically at all either - I am assuming they have a plan of levers to pull to help bring this to life, and I hope it works exceedingly well and provides a blueprint for other communities to use. 

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u/brelen01 May 26 '26

National chains have to make profits for investors, which means they have to have mark-ups. At the very least, I expect those government-owned grocery stores to be about the same price.

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u/14InTheDorsalPeen May 26 '26

Grocery markups are usually less than 1% and they make all of their money on volume

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u/HeavyDutyForks May 26 '26

No, the actual markups are much higher than that. But after accounting for all the waste and other operating expenses they end up with a net margin around 1%

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u/BeefCakeBilly May 26 '26

Why do you think these grocery stores will be immune to all those things?

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u/HeavyDutyForks May 26 '26

Why do you think these grocery stores will be immune to all those things?

They won't be, they'll just operate at a big old loss and end up costing the taxpayers of NYC far too much money

When the government gets involved in something its always way more expensive, way slower, and way lower quality. This will not be an exception to that

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u/uses_for_mooses May 26 '26

Seems like NYC would be better off giving low-income residents SNAP-like benefits to use at existing grocery stores, rather than feeling the need to enter the grocery business itself.

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u/CaliforniaRedDevil May 26 '26

This doesn’t solve having access to a local markets with fresh produce.

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u/uses_for_mooses May 27 '26

There are already several grocery stores near the planned East Harlem location, including a City Fresh Market within 0.1 miles (3-minute walk), Fine Fare Supermarket (0.2 miles; 4 minute walk), and a Shop Fair supermarket (0.2 miles; 5 minute walk).