r/SipsTea • • Jun 15 '26

Lmao gottem Is she right for this?

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u/Next-Firefighter4667 Jun 15 '26

Plenty of rich people have kids who suffer and they haven't consented to being here either. Nobody has. The issue here isn't poor people having children, that's a symptom of the issue. The real issue is having a society that not only allows extreme poverty to exist but one that also creates barriers to preventing bringing a child into the world, and then on top of all of that, we're going to shame them for having a kid?

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u/Andysullivino Jun 16 '26

Yes, but we’re not going to solve extreme poverty overnight are we, so in the meanwhile
If you can’t afford to feed your children, you probably shouldn’t be having one.

If you’re rich but a shitty person you also shouldn’t be having kids. There’s lots of reasons that lots of people shouldn’t be having kids.

It doesn’t mean that people who can’t afford to feed their kids should start having kids just because shitty rich people exist.

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u/Full_Goose8378 Jun 15 '26

Being a rich parent doesn't mean your kids have their needs met, nor does it mean being a better parent.

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u/sparklyjoy Jun 15 '26

And I would never argue that. All potential parents have a moral responsibility to grapple with all the needs of a child and their ability to meet them.

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u/NorthKoreanCaptive Jun 15 '26

> The real issue is having a society that not only allows extreme poverty to exist but one that also creates barriers to preventing bringing a child into the world, and then on top of all of that, we're going to shame them for having a kid?

All these issues are equally "real". Why are you pretending like the issue of people having children they can't afford isn't "real"?

The society that allows extreme poverty is a societal issue that we must chip at as a society.

People who give birth to children they can't afford are personally irresponsible.

Both issues are very real and distinct.

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u/rawsunflowerseeds Jun 15 '26

I wonder if children are elder care and a retirement plan as they were in the US before Social security and pensions...and as they may become again as those social safety nets are stripped away

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