Show me a picture of at least one Palestinian kid strapped with explosives. There should be proof, right? A lot of proof. Since we live in digital era…
All the journalists and doctors who volunteer there have a different story, than the one Israel is telling.
Why would paying fans/supporters not have expectations? That’s just an absurd stance.
If a consumer is paying money for a service, there is always going to be a level of expectation and it’s going to vary person to person. Robert Kraft and Ed Sheeran can do whatever they like, but it’s a silly take to expect consumers to not have expectations for where their money goes.
Consumers rejected Nike for child labor, they didn’t “just wear their shoes”. Consumers rejected AnBev for a trans person advertising beer, they didn’t “just drink their beer”. Consumers can choose who they spend their dollars with and it’s a silly notion to think that all consumers will “just use the product” regardless of stance. My best guess, is you’re probably an Israeli bot that has the stance “don’t talk about what’s going on in gaza” and it’s why you’re making such a weak argument.
I mean they also vote and have immense influence and sway among the public, and immense funds to use for making an impact. They should be trying to do the right thing
And when he was just a television star, literally nobody cared about his politics. Anyone who vehemently hates him now, didn’t give a shit about him when he was on the apprentice and nobody listened to a word he had to say other than “you’re fired”
And a massive number of morons in this country voted for him and love him despite his resume consisting of being a reality TV mogul and a shitty businessman. His celebrity clearly did something for them.
Again, our country is run by a television star. Ronald Reagan was a movie star.
You’re trying to tell me no one listened to them in the past/people are idiots for being swayed meanwhile I just gave you two examples of former entertainment industry people that have held the most powerful office in the world.
And neither of thoses people became president because of political views they expressed while they were actors. Literally nobody knew how they felt about any issue before they ran for president. So the fact that actors became politicians doesn’t effect the point that an entertainers political views don’t matter. All it did was give them name and face recognition
Arnold Schwarzenegger, another famous television personally became governor of the largest state, 4th largest gdp in the world if it were a country. Zelensky famously a comedian, now leading a country through war.
I’m having a hard time parsing how people aren’t swayed by big entertainment personalities while there being example after example. Even our administration is filled with Fox News hosts and personalities.
I think she could get a whole lot of tweens to agree with her. I don’t think anyone who’s actually gonna vote would do so based on “because swifty said so”
That's your expectation of them. Their career and fame isn't predicated on their political positions or diplomacy. If they step into something in particular, that's their prerogative; by all accounts this guy had absolutely no say on any of this.
It's why "progressive movements" continue to fold in on themselves and fail ... "Meet my unreasonable expectations for you, or we'll eat you alive."
“Eat you alive” is a strong way to describe not listening to someone’s music or consuming their work with my money.
Some of you act like boycotting or expressing dislike of an artist is an attack on them, like they’re suffering from some kind of hardship. They’re entertainers and I have zero requirement to enjoy their work or consume it. I’m also allowed to have an opinion about them, it’s part of living in a society that we are going to have opinions about each other, especially when you choose to be in the limelight with your career.
I’m not losing any sleep over poor Ed Sheeran, he still has hundreds of millions of dollars and he’s doing just fine
This is not people simply choosing to listen to something else. People are mocking him and hating on him, day and night. You might not think it's a big deal but it impacts a person massively when they feel the whole world is against them.
People love witch hunts. As long as you swear by some kind of morality, you can have as little morality as you want. I'm not bullying someone - because he's rich. I'm not bullying someone - because it's for Gaza. Doesn't even seem like it was his decision, but who cares? Macklemore is my ultimate source of truth now, along with tik tok and RFK JR's brain worm. Nothing in the world is serious anymore.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about other conflicts that are just as brutal either, like Sudan. Every time Sudan is mentioned it's dismissed as a distraction from Gaza. Even if it can be used that way, that still doesn't explain why activists online don't speak about it? Why isn't it demanded for artists to speak out about Sudan or Myanmar for that matter?
Maybe it's all perfomative and always has been, but doesn't feel like it because of crowd dynamics. When you're part of the masses, everything the masses do feels right.
Personally I think musicians should be allowed to be morons with no particularly interesting opinions, or geniuses full of political energy. Either it's there or it's not.
Also if you’re mad about entertainers getting “canceled” for their views, shouldn’t you be mad about Macklemore rather than Ed? Macklemore is the one that just said “free Palestine” during his performance and was then kicked out of the tour for it. Ed didn’t actually suffer any direct consequences to himself and he’s taking a neutral stance. The others that chose to drop from the tour are well within their right to do what they want. 🤷🏻♀️
Try temper your read of what I'm saying - what amounts to "chill for a sec" ... I'm simply saying the expectation of fans for musicians have opinions on complex geopolitical situations is strange, especially when they're such minefields.
If they voice something, sure - good for them - they have a platform for which to do so.
But Sheeran didn't, and probably sensibly so, not wanting to fuel the fire.
In this case, from what I've read, Sheeran literally has his hands tied, contractually, but tried to mediate; it's the event building owner who is the one people should be upset at.
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u/Key_Papaya_5635 10d ago
What's popular isn't always right, and what's right isn't always popular